tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post3676753063301121818..comments2024-03-28T00:08:11.164-04:00Comments on The Stuyvesant Town Report: July 14, 2012Stuy Town Reporterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05538426011607971633noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-13071463591759407332012-07-24T09:49:51.726-04:002012-07-24T09:49:51.726-04:00Market Rate Tenants have two rents on their lease ...Market Rate Tenants have two rents on their lease - a legal rent and a preferential rent. During the past five years the preferential rent has been charged and renewals were rent stabilization increases on the preferential rent. This year the renewal does not offer the preferential rent only the legal rent, which is 20% higher than the preferential rent, and the legal rent is being increased by the rent stabilization increase.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-6861046492458658672012-07-23T21:42:23.214-04:002012-07-23T21:42:23.214-04:00"If all the units are rent stabized, how does..."If all the units are rent stabized, how does management get away with these obscene rent hikes?"<br /><br />Good point! Just how do they get away with it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-67035726804598101792012-07-23T19:24:55.787-04:002012-07-23T19:24:55.787-04:00If all the units are rent stabized, how does manag...If all the units are rent stabized, how does management get away with these obscene rent hikes? <br /><br />I'm missing something here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-68737282957401590692012-07-20T15:43:25.059-04:002012-07-20T15:43:25.059-04:00A two year renwal in 2008 was 8.5%, in 2010 was 6%...A two year renwal in 2008 was 8.5%, in 2010 was 6%, and in 2012 it is 30%!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-90432680291245001602012-07-20T11:40:41.902-04:002012-07-20T11:40:41.902-04:00July 19, 11:07 AM. I feel genuinely sorry for you...July 19, 11:07 AM. I feel genuinely sorry for your plight. You are one of the honest, well-intentioned market raters who was lured into renting here, thinking it was all that management said it was. To a large extend they told you the truth; it was a nice and safe place to raise a family. What they didn't tell you was that they were setting you up to fail because all they want to do is churn the apartments and mark up the rents to such an outrageous sum that nice people like you will have no alternative than to move out. They want to fill the apartments with as many students and transients (NOT families, but young, single kids, most only parental dime) who will squeeze in together, change roommates often and vacate within months so that the apartments can be marked up yet again. I don't know where it will end, because there must surely be a limit even for that demographic, but the thing is they don't want people like you and me. You because you are family people looking to stay and help make this a community again and pay a fair market rent to do so; people like me because I am a long-term tenants in a rent stabilized unit and they want to make both our apartments rabbit warrens/flophouses and wring as much money as they can out of them. I'm here for the duration, no matter what they do, but I no longer have kiddies to consider and they are limited as to how much they can gouge my rent (hear their teeth gnashing?). I wish you well and I am sorry that nice people like you have been driven out of our community by these disgusting vultures/con-artists who have taken over the complex. God bless you and yours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-24671164625113640022012-07-19T11:07:08.506-04:002012-07-19T11:07:08.506-04:00You are right – it is my problem and nobody made m...You are right – it is my problem and nobody made me come and live here. When we moved in five years ago it was a good option for my wife and I and our 6 and 2 year old daughters. The size of our PCV apartment is good and the rent was fair and the community is a good place to raise children. We do not have a “Jacuzzi and lap pool” – we go to the Asser levy Recreation Center pool. Now it is my problem to tell my 10 and 7 year old daughters we have to leave our home, it is my problem our daughters have to leave the friends they have made in the community, it is my problem to find an apartment for a fair rent where my family will be able to live comfortably, and it is my problem to find a new school for my daughters. Sorry, but the Oval Cafe doesn’t keep awake at night – I just want to give another perspective and the perspective of others in our community. Be thankful, may you find peace and happiness along the way, and may God bless you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-6571168316553709872012-07-18T20:20:16.148-04:002012-07-18T20:20:16.148-04:00@Anon July 17, 2012 12:54 PM
So as a "long t...@Anon July 17, 2012 12:54 PM<br /><br />So as a "long time market rate tenant" another 30% increase must mean you're paying what, $8000 a month by now ?? You're not the apartment with the built in Jacuzzi, and lap pool are you ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-77494927051396692142012-07-18T19:29:17.746-04:002012-07-18T19:29:17.746-04:00July 17, 2012 10:18 PM is a good neighbor.July 17, 2012 10:18 PM is a good neighbor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-53898448650740975812012-07-18T16:32:07.256-04:002012-07-18T16:32:07.256-04:00Amen to anon at 1018 p.Amen to anon at 1018 p.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-7519808581597411832012-07-17T22:18:14.248-04:002012-07-17T22:18:14.248-04:00As a long term market rate tenant who is facing a ...As a long term market rate tenant who is facing a 30% rent increase this year - which will force me out of my home, I would gladly live in a non-market rate apartment, in the building above the Oval Cafe and NOT complain about it! Count your blessings and be thankful for what you have - the Manhattan rental market is the highest it has ever been!>><br /><br />That's your problem. Nobody made you come and live here. You're the victim of bloodsuckers and the rest of us don't have to be grateful for having non-market apartments, especially as "market" rate is so ridiculously more than the apartment is worth. If a man is starving and you tell him you'll sell him a crust for $100 or he can just drop dead, does that make you right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-48656253012868815552012-07-17T15:57:45.715-04:002012-07-17T15:57:45.715-04:00I got garodnicked last night!!!!I got garodnicked last night!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-87987829448250314442012-07-17T12:54:57.489-04:002012-07-17T12:54:57.489-04:00As a long term market rate tenant who is facing a ...As a long term market rate tenant who is facing a 30% rent increase this year - which will force me out of my home, I would gladly live in a non-market rate apartment, in the building above the Oval Cafe and NOT complain about it! Count your blessings and be thankful for what you have - the Manhattan rental market is the highest it has ever been!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-76105392001644748792012-07-17T12:48:53.040-04:002012-07-17T12:48:53.040-04:00Better than isolating the residents only rule as t...Better than isolating the residents only rule as the Garodnick rule, why not use it as a verb, I just been garodnicked again by Rose Associates.<br />And Lo I look forward to your waitering at the Oval Cafe & Beer GardenTommyboyardeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-32976722600370066912012-07-17T12:44:29.199-04:002012-07-17T12:44:29.199-04:006:51--that makes no sense. Basically what you are ...6:51--that makes no sense. Basically what you are saying is once you rent an apartment, NOTHING on street level is ever allowed to change from the moment we rent it. That's just plain silly. If Associated became a restaurant, assuming they got the permits, that would be one big too bad for the residents of 451. It's the owner's decision, if a tenant doesn't want to live above a restaurant, he can move out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-6612187760697558862012-07-17T12:14:31.836-04:002012-07-17T12:14:31.836-04:00@July 16, 2012 9:36 PM
People that DO care about ...@July 16, 2012 9:36 PM<br /><br />People that DO care about the community will take whatever steps are available to them to fight for their quality of life. There are legitimate issues about CW's usage of the Accessory Use provisions of the zoning laws, and they could be challenged in court. Making generalized false statements (in all caps) like saying there's NOTHING you can do, just isn't true. Do some research on these issues before posting next time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-17433622135392736892012-07-17T11:11:21.665-04:002012-07-17T11:11:21.665-04:00"People in say, 451 live over Associated, and..."People in say, 451 live over Associated, and the world isn't coming to an end."<br /><br />People don't live OVER Associated. There are no apartments on top of Associated. <br /><br />At Cafe Kubrick there are lights and a patio ten feet from the apartments windows. But it's not YOUR apartment so it doesn't count, I get it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-47623297801627751092012-07-17T01:07:58.524-04:002012-07-17T01:07:58.524-04:00"It's kind of too bad that you don't ..."It's kind of too bad that you don't think I get it. I get it. There's a cafe, I don't love it either, but I don't really care. There's absolutely NOTHING you can do about it, other than not patronize it. But all you do is sound like malcontents because this is yet another atrocity in your long list of atrocities. After the 200th atrocity, why are you still here?"<br /><br />A-hole @ July 16, 2012 9:36 PM is right! <br /><br />Do not patronize this abomination. I'm guessing most of us--besides this guy--are already doing it but, hey, worth a shout out anyway. <br /><br />Best way to run these guys out of business is by cutting off the source of funding.<br /><br />July 16, 2012 9:36 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-61747648550434260962012-07-16T21:36:06.200-04:002012-07-16T21:36:06.200-04:00It's kind of too bad that you don't think ...It's kind of too bad that you don't think I get it. I get it. There's a cafe, I don't love it either, but I don't really care. There's absolutely NOTHING you can do about it, other than not patronize it. But all you do is sound like malcontents because this is yet another atrocity in your long list of atrocities. After the 200th atrocity, why are you still here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-66507669007953372562012-07-16T18:51:37.702-04:002012-07-16T18:51:37.702-04:00336p just doesn't get it.
People who live o...336p just doesn't get it. <br /><br />People who live over Associated CHOSE to live there. <br /><br />People who now have to live above a greasy spoon in the once placid Oval are getting the royal screw job.<br /><br /><br />Oh yes, once again, thank you Coucilman Garodnick FOR NOTHING!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-65926458544582613932012-07-16T17:44:27.555-04:002012-07-16T17:44:27.555-04:00"It's not. Saying it is doesn't make ..."It's not. Saying it is doesn't make it so. The city said they can, so they can. NO ONE BUT RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO GO THERE. The cafe really is only intended for residents--they do not expect a grand rush of Brooklynites hurrying over to our very special cafe to get chicken fingers." <br /><br />You keep saying the same thing over and over again as if someone is going to believe you if you just keep repeating yourself.<br /><br /> No one is saying the Cafe will be a destination. However, since many non residents do come into Stuy Town for the crappy concerts or to (illegally) shop at Dan's way Green Market. Maybe just one or two of those people might want to stop there. <br /><br />The point is the cafe shouldn't be there. If Dan Garodnick wasn't on the take it wouldn't be there. If we had a TA that wasn't in bed with management so their plan gets preferential treatment, it wouldn't be there. However, since Dan is going to take campaign contributions over doing the right thing and since we have a Buyers Association not a TA we have the crappy cafe. Period!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-42465075053410284052012-07-16T15:36:07.298-04:002012-07-16T15:36:07.298-04:00It's not. Saying it is doesn't make it so....It's not. Saying it is doesn't make it so. The city said they can, so they can. NO ONE BUT RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO GO THERE. The cafe really is only intended for residents--they do not expect a grand rush of Brooklynites hurrying over to our very special cafe to get chicken fingers. <br /><br />Again, my only complaint is that the food isn't very healthy or tempting sounding. People in say, 451 live over Associated, and the world isn't coming to an end. It's fine, nothing really to get stressed about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-73572184792539058602012-07-16T14:42:28.201-04:002012-07-16T14:42:28.201-04:00GraciGraciTommyboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-5903593919722409862012-07-16T14:36:54.368-04:002012-07-16T14:36:54.368-04:00"Hey, Lo Rhent! So glad you're still arou..."Hey, Lo Rhent! So glad you're still around!"<br /><br />Lo always around but always busy working! I just take part time job at Oval Calfe! They need someone that know how make PBJ sandwich. I tell them how! <br /><br />They also need person with recipe for ice but I no tell them that right away. Wait for first raise.... ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-49715321225935819542012-07-16T14:10:37.266-04:002012-07-16T14:10:37.266-04:00Neither CW or Rose OWN's Stuy Town. It's i...Neither CW or Rose OWN's Stuy Town. It's in their control until it can be sold again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-26411848432198600192012-07-16T14:03:34.316-04:002012-07-16T14:03:34.316-04:00I am officially renaming the "residents and t...I am officially renaming the "residents and their guests" rule the Garodnick rule. This way I will be reminded of all the crap he helped dump on us. I wouldn't want to forget what he did to us each time he runs for some other office so I can remember to select the other person (no matter who they are) when I VOTE, and I do Vote. Now I won't have to venture over to Dan's way (where we used to have a nice oval) to be reminded of how well served we were by this fraud.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com