tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post5593052078520504019..comments2024-03-28T00:08:11.164-04:00Comments on The Stuyvesant Town Report: The Madness of Oval "Events"Stuy Town Reporterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05538426011607971633noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-88979961408887817582012-09-17T15:37:02.932-04:002012-09-17T15:37:02.932-04:00re: Brookfield is nothing.
Well yes they were only...re: Brookfield is nothing.<br />Well yes they were only founded in 1899 and have total assets worth well over $151Billion, so you must all be right, they could never pull off a deal as big as buying STPCV.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-44645829464244916292012-09-14T15:40:24.988-04:002012-09-14T15:40:24.988-04:00The next and highest bid will come from DMC--Dormi...The next and highest bid will come from DMC--Dormitory Management Company. Don't forget to sign up for Fall classes...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-12800969518689129512012-09-13T21:27:09.978-04:002012-09-13T21:27:09.978-04:00Brookfield spent a couple million on PR nonsense, ...Brookfield spent a couple million on PR nonsense, which is basically an OPTION. They have not put up a dime nor will they. Having discovered that CW ignores them, and that the TA "deal" provided nothing, they are now twisting themselves into knots figuring out how to get out of this. I am sure that Danny G. is pressuring them to NOT depart as it is his primary election platform. When it dies, his political career dies with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-92185218972467278232012-09-13T07:04:55.580-04:002012-09-13T07:04:55.580-04:00It's me again. Brookfield is nothing. They tri...It's me again. Brookfield is nothing. They tried and failed, and the TA is too ashamed to admit it. The property will be sold to the highest bidder when it is put on the market. It is NOT on the market yet. Believe me, you will know when actual BUYERS start looking at it. Basic stuff, really, and not worth fighting about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-63461606008484684352012-09-12T13:41:12.670-04:002012-09-12T13:41:12.670-04:00"As they say at the circus, money talks, bull..."As they say at the circus, money talks, bullshit walks."<br /><br />Well, you got the circus bit right. That sure as hell is what this place is at this point.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-36279818520890174452012-09-12T13:35:34.399-04:002012-09-12T13:35:34.399-04:00Sounds like "@anon September 11, 2012 11:39 P...Sounds like "@anon September 11, 2012 11:39 PM" summed it up pretty well--including the "lighten up" comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-86276907036772083032012-09-12T09:00:23.825-04:002012-09-12T09:00:23.825-04:00@anon September 11, 2012 11:39 PM "....Lig...@anon September 11, 2012 11:39 PM "....Lighten up, already."<br /><br />Smarten up already.<br /><br />Your ignorance of the working of a business deal is formidable. Do you really think that CW Capital forges ahead to conclusion without consulting the investors that it represents ? And you have zero insight into the workings of Brookfield, a company that is considering making a multi-billion dollar investment in the property. As they say at the circus, money talks, bullshit walks.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-4322089252094564382012-09-11T23:39:50.196-04:002012-09-11T23:39:50.196-04:00OK, technically CW Capital does not "own"...OK, technically CW Capital does not "own" the property. But they manage it, make all the decisions, spend money and collect the rent, and plan the eventual disposition to the highest bidder (which will NOT be the idiots from Brookfield). Doesn't that SOUND like an owner to you? Lighten up, already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-2678656350778942542012-09-11T12:48:44.361-04:002012-09-11T12:48:44.361-04:00@Anon September 11, 2012 8:29 AM
With mindsets l...@Anon September 11, 2012 8:29 AM <br /><br />With mindsets like your, we'd be sitting here with rotting teeth drinking afternoon tea. Americans believe in the right to protest and in the right of free expression. If you like the conditions here, fine, but there are many who don't, and they have a right to protest. And BTW, CW Capital doesn't "own" the property, they are simply stewards for the owners of the bonds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-62848682409153103572012-09-11T09:07:55.391-04:002012-09-11T09:07:55.391-04:00C'mon people. NO ONE can actually tell you wha...C'mon people. NO ONE can actually tell you what your apartment will cost if you want to buy it because IT IS TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON WHAT THE PURCHASE PRICE WILL BE TO BUY STPCV. AND NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THAT PURCHASE PRICE WILL BE YET.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-91435272844858057542012-09-11T08:31:44.635-04:002012-09-11T08:31:44.635-04:00Why do you think that having a ralley will influen...Why do you think that having a ralley will influence anyone? The complex is a privately owned business. This is not mainland China....it is America. And the owners will do what they wish to enhance the sales value. If you don't like it, rent an apartment somewhere that you like better. We don't own this place: CW Capital does (for all intents and purposes).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-6707169492752556622012-09-11T08:29:06.638-04:002012-09-11T08:29:06.638-04:00This housing complex is a privately owned business...This housing complex is a privately owned business. You can shout daily in Times Square about affordable housing but it won't change anything. The buyers will be looking at the BOTTOM LINE, not the lawns. This is all so simple....why don't you get it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-31886068812902140222012-09-10T10:36:44.222-04:002012-09-10T10:36:44.222-04:00To have monthly rallies you need an organization t...To have monthly rallies you need an organization that's out in the open. The TA would be the natural focal point. Go to the TA facebook page & you'll see that on all quality of life issues, that site & this site seem to be in synch. But God-only-knows-why...the TA felt it needed to make a partnership. If the TA would only drop this and then sponsor rallies that advocate for keeping the place affordable for the middle class, we could get something going.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-32634587107297873272012-09-10T10:32:29.805-04:002012-09-10T10:32:29.805-04:00To Chris...'Not being forced out' is what ...To Chris...'Not being forced out' is what the best TA Board will be able to claim it did for us...which is really like claiming nothing at all because several non-eviction plans will be in the offing. That's not what we want. We want prices that will allow us to buy at high participation rates. At least the G-W plan aimed for this. But of course the TA board opted for a partner that presented no clear pricing plan and stated no target participation rate at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-34733979152806879772012-09-10T09:19:28.093-04:002012-09-10T09:19:28.093-04:00Anonymous said...
"Agree! The constant compla... Anonymous said...<br />"Agree! The constant complainers here have no idea how good they have it."<br /><br />We know. We live in the same dump that you do but we're paying half the price!<br /><br /><br />In my building, I know of a couple of FMR who expressed their opinion with their feet--they left. Pre-TS tenants can't afford to do that. We make it clear--because we know--that this place could be so much better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-87801978692294168462012-09-10T09:09:06.226-04:002012-09-10T09:09:06.226-04:00"Agree! The constant complainers here have no..."Agree! The constant complainers here have no idea how good they have it."<br /><br />We know. We live in the same dump that you do but we're paying half the price!>><br /><br />And we ain't going anywhere any time soon!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-77418054669728507252012-09-09T17:40:48.452-04:002012-09-09T17:40:48.452-04:00"Agree! The constant complainers here have no..."Agree! The constant complainers here have no idea how good they have it."<br /><br />We know. We live in the same dump that you do but we're paying half the price!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-39486432802923127952012-09-09T14:05:58.214-04:002012-09-09T14:05:58.214-04:00Agree! The constant complainers here have no idea...Agree! The constant complainers here have no idea how good they have it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-62967854310583874122012-09-09T12:43:08.115-04:002012-09-09T12:43:08.115-04:00Lady Maya's events are too downscale, CW seems...Lady Maya's events are too downscale, CW seems to love them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-41494033591324879462012-09-09T12:42:25.380-04:002012-09-09T12:42:25.380-04:00Bless you blogger for saying this!
Can we get so...Bless you blogger for saying this! <br /><br />Can we get some protests going and get them to limit the events or move them around the complex? There are 5 other playgrounds where they could hold events but NO... they impose this crap on people on the Oval over and over again. Share the "wealth"... get it off the Oval.<br /><br />And just 1 more thing... the BELLOWING COACHES for the tiny tot soccer are the worst. EVERYDAY from 9-12 they're hollering WAAA WOOOO WOOOW everytime a 4 year kicks that ball. OMG! I'm on the 12 floor and it's nonstop noise up here. How do the people on the lower floors stand it? <br /><br />But thank you blogger. Great post!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-34903702215273858652012-09-09T12:41:46.357-04:002012-09-09T12:41:46.357-04:00I think the Flea Market poster was talking about d...I think the Flea Market poster was talking about doing it without or in spite of CW's blessing (or knowledge). Even if it only lasted for like 4 hours (11 until 3), to avoid advance detection or enforcement/suppression it would work. Late enough for the churchgoers or late-night revelers to do and still short enough to not wear out our welcome. Like a dry run for the real thing. I love this idea. A People's Flea Market with no management hand in sight. We really should try to do this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-5271777493706265632012-09-09T12:41:33.249-04:002012-09-09T12:41:33.249-04:0011:39--
With the complex in foreclosure and at lea...11:39--<br />With the complex in foreclosure and at least 3 billion in debt, the math just doesn't work to keep the whole place affordable. If we end up with a non-eviction plan condo or coop, at least no one will be forced out. Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-17155133877491748982012-09-09T11:39:42.175-04:002012-09-09T11:39:42.175-04:00I would like to know if anyone has any ideas about...I would like to know if anyone has any ideas about how we can start having rallies to support keeping the complex affordable for the middle class....that object to the social engineering going on here, that stand up against Bloomberg's real estate policies of Manhattan for the elite. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-22374443838071841232012-09-09T11:32:34.088-04:002012-09-09T11:32:34.088-04:00I'm with Chris and the others about how desira...I'm with Chris and the others about how desirable this place still is. When I looked at 2 BRs in the same price range (most were actually up to $500/month higher), OMG! <br /><br />What the "market" is calling a 2BR is really a small 1 BR chopped up into 2 BRs. Usually it means a really tiny living room with no windows (like the students are doing here to the 1 BR, but even these are bigger than the open market). And the kitchens were scary small and unappointed, usually not open to the living room and no window, so very cramped feeling. Bathrooms were usually nice, but no window. And the closet space, oy. <br /><br />And in most cases, utilities not included. Granted, the lobbies and laundry rooms usually MUCH nicer, but the living space was crazy small even for two people, let alone a family with one or more kids. <br /><br />Here, we have 4 closets (the linen closet stores sooooooo much), a lovely kitchen my husband and I can share and cook together and look out the window onto the world. I've seen bigger living rooms, but still quite sizable, and a quite separate dining area, a small hallway leading from the front door to the living room, and L-shaped hallway with two quite large bedrooms, a nice bathroom with a window--and the kicker, utilities included. PLUS, lovely outdoor setting with trees and and fountain and the Oval, occasionally activities for the kids and adults, and the farmers market, and pick-up hockey games and basketball, and all these cute kids and dogs and young people and old people--a diverse small town in the city. All for somewhat less than current market price and so much more for your money. And at least for now, some restrictions on the amount the owner can raise the rent. <br /><br />Who wouldn't want to live here? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-67043987305448217402012-09-09T10:47:17.158-04:002012-09-09T10:47:17.158-04:00Nobody was saying that real people do not want to ...Nobody was saying that real people do not want to live here, what was said was the well healed do not want to live here, they look upon STPCV as the projects, but for those of us who are not well healed, and love living here, what we are talking about is the complex going Condo, and being sold to the insiders at an affordable price, it has nothing to do with no fee apartments or what people are paying in rent. The students are not here for the long term, and once we do get to buy, the Condo board can vote for no more student housing.<br />The key here, is we need to have Roberts settled soon, 3 years has been long enough, and the TA who announced in Nov that they were placing a bid to buy in the 2nd quarter of 2012 need to tell us what is going on with that idea. We have been kept in the dark for too long, by the powers that be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com