tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post6959299194906927093..comments2024-03-17T17:11:59.147-04:00Comments on The Stuyvesant Town Report: Guterman Speaks!Stuy Town Reporterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05538426011607971633noreply@blogger.comBlogger166125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-81834479715822448242012-02-15T11:40:00.318-05:002012-02-15T11:40:00.318-05:00I don't understand that remark about "if ...I don't understand that remark about "if you are so grand ...." What's that all about? True MetLife built this property to be utilitarian, no-frills housing for middle income people. It wasn't built to house multiple adult occupants in each unit with pressure walls and no carpeting. Before it became a dorm, the noise problems were at a minimum because strict rules were enforced concerning carpeting, pressure walls were not allowed, and security did their job if anybody was disturbing the peace. Who is it who should move to a doorman building? The RS tenants whose lives were shattered by the conversion to a dorm or the crammed-in students with their attendant noise and lack of consideration. THEY - the students - are in the wrong place, not US, the long term RS tenants who moved into apartments, not cubicles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-63541824032296735802012-02-15T10:34:23.920-05:002012-02-15T10:34:23.920-05:00"Has anyone looked at the original finishes w..."Has anyone looked at the original finishes which are still present in many apartments here, and asked themselves who these were built for? It was MIDDLE CLASS housing for the masses. No one can dispute that Met Life didn't exactly throw money around for thick, solid, soundproof walls. What the heck do you expect here? If you're so grand, move to a doorman building."<br /><br />I'm not sure what point you're trying to bring out here. Is this comment directed at a particular post? I'm especially not getting the "so grand" comment. If it's a general comment trying to inculcate the idea that this isn't a well constructed complex (regarding sound insulation at least) and we shouldn't expect there to be quiet, then why would you allow dorms and dogs which would only ADD to the problem. Also, why wouldn't you at least enforce the carpeting policy? My point is why not try to keep it as livable for as many people as possible. I can say that when I moved in 14 years ago I didn't have any noise complaints, I sure have them now.<br /><br />Again, if I'm misinterpreting the point of your post my apologies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-11876171069997211392012-02-15T00:01:10.492-05:002012-02-15T00:01:10.492-05:00Has anyone looked at the original finishes which a...Has anyone looked at the original finishes which are still present in many apartments here, and asked themselves who these were built for? It was MIDDLE CLASS housing for the masses. No one can dispute that Met Life didn't exactly throw money around for thick, solid, soundproof walls. What the heck do you expect here? If you're so grand, move to a doorman building.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-66935750902255635552012-02-14T23:16:34.358-05:002012-02-14T23:16:34.358-05:00The provision of 2 unrelated lease holders only al...The provision of 2 unrelated lease holders only allows one additional "occupant". There's no such thing as a sublease in addition to the leaseholder. An official sublease can only be arranged with the consent of the landlord, and it still must comply with statute, and (in this case) the rent stabilization law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-83809249823252104392012-02-14T23:12:54.253-05:002012-02-14T23:12:54.253-05:00Rummaged, you seem to overlook the fact that famil...Rummaged, you seem to overlook the fact that families with children put their kids to bed at 10 PM so they can go to school the next day. They don't make nearly as much of a disruption as an apartment full of 20somethings drunk in the middle of the night.<br /><br />You need to understand the history of the dynamic in this community in order to judge the opinions of long time tenants here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-47843761242190652042012-02-14T17:53:53.219-05:002012-02-14T17:53:53.219-05:00If the buyout is a condo, then there are no rules ...If the buyout is a condo, then there are no rules as to who you can rent to. Fwiw, we have owned a condo in NYc, and the building ran a tight ship. Noisy, problematic renters were dealt with harshly , as private owners living amongst renters. I can honestly say, there was rarely a problem.<br /><br />B -U- T the building was built much better (for sound) than pcv or st.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-21435314269497962382012-02-14T17:27:22.283-05:002012-02-14T17:27:22.283-05:00"All Brookfield needs to do now is to pledge ..."All Brookfield needs to do now is to pledge to bring the development into compliance with NYC housing code that says that not more than 2 unrelated tenants can be included in a lease. The pressure walls will be gone within a year."<br /><br />Many of these "Student" apartments are held by 2 or less lease holders with the other tenants subletting. This wouldn't accomplish anything.<br /><br />Secondly, how many NYU students actually live in Stuytown, and how much of this is just old people who go to bed at 8 PM bitching about younger tenants and using "student" as a catch-all?<br /><br />People on this blog love saying how Stuytown was better as a "family community", but kids are F***ing LOUD!!! I can't imagine that historically it was only 1 child per actual room either. Maybe there were no pressure walls, but I'm sure there were multiple children, and just as many people to an apartment in the 50s - 70s.Rummagednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-48101210991257499842012-02-14T11:38:24.693-05:002012-02-14T11:38:24.693-05:00So can we buy our apartment and rent it for $3500 ...So can we buy our apartment and rent it for $3500 to nyu students? It's a 1 br.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-86014431560386650962012-02-13T22:36:34.519-05:002012-02-13T22:36:34.519-05:00I for one am thankful that Mr Guterman is willing ...I for one am thankful that Mr Guterman is willing to answer questions and concerns on here. I wish he would consider holding a town hall type meeting locally. Since he might not get the turnout the TA gets he could rent out JHS 104 for the event. I would go. At any rate if he wants to continue answering questions on here, how about the question someone just posted regarding buying an apartment other than the one I am in. I am in a ground floor apartment I would NEVER buy this apartment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-53737066572557457952012-02-13T18:33:34.463-05:002012-02-13T18:33:34.463-05:00Guterman is wasting his and our time. He's an...Guterman is wasting his and our time. He's an opportunist and not to be trusted. He has a track record and it's not one he should be proud of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-44621418231731064422012-02-13T16:45:28.568-05:002012-02-13T16:45:28.568-05:00Guterman is simply parroting back to us what we...Guterman is simply parroting back to us what we're saying. We say we're unhappy with the dorm apartments, so they're all sympathetic. We're concerned about price, so they say they'll charge us less. Don't believe any of it. If they have to rent to students to make their numbers, they will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-50523071842975474942012-02-13T15:27:30.773-05:002012-02-13T15:27:30.773-05:00WORST WORST situation is the noise isues. the ap...WORST WORST situation is the noise isues. the apartments are not well built for noise at all. i can heaer my neighbors curse, have sex, shout, talk, and sneeze.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-75810642344143956242012-02-13T11:32:30.778-05:002012-02-13T11:32:30.778-05:00I've been lucky so far regarding the dorm apar...I've been lucky so far regarding the dorm apartments. Unfortunately, I haven't been so lucky with dogs waking me every morning from the various apartments around me. The one common thread running through all of this of course is that there are significant QOL issues here that I really don't see how they are going to ameliorate. I'm here until I can retire (9 years). I have nowhere else to go, but it's going to be misery all that time unless things change. I would have never left this place when I first arrived here 13 years ago. I would have never predicted this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-32235705601322643912012-02-12T17:03:51.990-05:002012-02-12T17:03:51.990-05:00good to know NYU doesn't have the cash to step...good to know NYU doesn't have the cash to step up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-24453427919965864412012-02-12T15:54:21.969-05:002012-02-12T15:54:21.969-05:00Please someone tell us what the proposed plan on l...<i>Please someone tell us what the proposed plan on larger units?</i><br /><br />The current Ta condo proposal allows for tenants to change apartments and complexes, depending on availability.Fed Up Tenant (the original)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-42443636488267153972012-02-12T15:51:42.860-05:002012-02-12T15:51:42.860-05:00Nice pool of dog (I guess) piss in my elevator thi...Nice pool of dog (I guess) piss in my elevator this afternoon. <br /><br />Wouldn't buy into this place!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-70182091096686850762012-02-12T13:08:31.860-05:002012-02-12T13:08:31.860-05:00I am one of those tenants who could afford to buy ...I am one of those tenants who could afford to buy my one-bedroom apartment, but I wouldn't so long as the property continues to be a dorm. I haven't had a decent night's sleep in the last two years since the apartment downstairs from me was turned into a dorm/squat. These kids never sleep. They are up all night and the quality of my life has gone down the toilet. I feel that I am overpaying on my rent (and I am rent stabilized) because my quality of life has been so negatively affected by the student invasion. Why would I invest my money and, probably, pay more per month to live in this situation? My mother didn't raise a fool! And before the "Get out you old crank" amen chorus starts: I am not going to be driven out. I live in the hope that eventually things will improve, maybe when we get rid of Rose and CW.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-63254526509660929652012-02-12T12:52:34.543-05:002012-02-12T12:52:34.543-05:00WE MAKE OUR COMPLAINTS KNOWN to Rose and nothing c...WE MAKE OUR COMPLAINTS KNOWN to Rose and nothing changes. THEY should put bouncers on half the floors of our building. IT'S SUCK A SLEEZY dorm now. <br /><br />Rose doing nothing. They keep renting to students. Pass by the leasing office anyday and see the future of sty and pcv.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-55358181665023872572012-02-12T12:43:45.245-05:002012-02-12T12:43:45.245-05:00All Brookfield needs to do now is to pledge to bri...All Brookfield needs to do now is to pledge to bring the development into compliance with NYC housing code that says that not more than 2 unrelated tenants can be included in a lease. The pressure walls will be gone within a year.<br /><br />Under Gutterman, their quote "We are also concerned (as an investor) about the costs to reconvert the property from student/dormitory style housing back to a middle income, stable, residential community. This process of re-stabilizing the community could require a number of years." is meaningless because their intent is to be gone before that happens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-23871341776965017702012-02-12T10:41:20.909-05:002012-02-12T10:41:20.909-05:00Growing family here. DO WE know at all if we'...Growing family here. DO WE know at all if we'd be able to buy a larger apartment? IF wew can't have option for a 2 bedroom in either pcv or st, I'm not staying on here. <br /><br />Please someone tell us what the proposed plan on larger units ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-52656745367866543152012-02-12T08:26:08.082-05:002012-02-12T08:26:08.082-05:00Nothing will happen until Roberts is settled. An...Nothing will happen until Roberts is settled. And almost all agree Roberts isn't settling for a longggggggggg time.<br /><br />This is all a bunch of b---it jabbing of jaws.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-65946417566553555812012-02-11T23:52:36.215-05:002012-02-11T23:52:36.215-05:00Gerald Guterman
(Continued - Building Dormitories ...Gerald Guterman<br />(Continued - Building Dormitories at STPCV)<br /><br /> For every 100 apartments with an average of two adults in occupancy, when renovated and leased as student/dormitory housing, the physical occupancy in the same total space could possibly increase by 50%-100% - from 200 adults to as many as 300-400 adults. <br /> An unrestrained increase in population of this magnitude without adequate upgrades to building infrastructure, including sprinklers, elevators, electrical capacity etc., as well as necessary increases in fire safety, police, utility, maintenance and management services. It will also place an unusually heavy burden on the community due to the increased physical danger as well as substantially lower quality of life for the average family.<br /> <br /> It is our belief that the more extensive the implementation of this policy and longer it continues, the greater the risk to the physical welfare of the tenants and the stability of the community. <br /> We are also concerned (as an investor) about the costs to reconvert the property from student/dormitory style housing back to a middle income, stable, residential community. This process of re-stabilizing the community could require a number of years. <br /> We believe that tenants should continue to make their concerns known to existing management with the intent of reversing the current policy of providing student housing programs within Stuyvesant Town-Peter Cooper Village. Bottom line, <br /> we don't own or control the property. Unless we do, we have a limited ability to change the existing policy with the intent of maximizing long term value.<br /><br />Gerry Gutermangg@gutermanpartners.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-24611068796395929422012-02-11T23:45:39.842-05:002012-02-11T23:45:39.842-05:00Gerald Guterman
BUILDING DORMITORIES AT STPCV.
W...Gerald Guterman<br /><br />BUILDING DORMITORIES AT STPCV.<br /><br />We received a number of questions and concerns regarding changing the apartments into high occupancy dormitory housing and thought it was serious enough to pass it along with our thoughts. <br /><br /> Example of Question:<br />We have lived in Stuyvesant Town-Peter Cooper Village for more than thirty-five years, are interested in buying, and can afford to buy. The problem, however, is that the two bedroom apartment next to ours was renovated and leased to three students with a fourth student also now living in the apartment. They tend to have parties frequently and the noise has been unbearable. We can never consider buying under these conditions. So my question is what can Guterman Westwood do about the renovated apartments that are currently marketed to students for dormitory housing. Many long time tenants have the same concern. This issue is going to affect sales. We do not want a community with so many more transitory tenants, pressurized walls, and standing-room-only living conditions.<br /><br />Answer:<br /> In our opinion, the right response to this issue is critical both to a successful conversion and to the continued viability of Stuyvesant Town-Peter Cooper Village as a safe, stable, family oriented, residential community.<br /> <br /> Guterman Westwood Partners believes that it was never the intention of the original developers, the last owners – or the City of New York – to deliberately remodel the demographics of the Stuyvesant Town-Peter Cooper Village community with a formal program aimed at students.<br /> Furthermore, these policies bringing increases in population that we believe the complex was not designed for, even though they may technically fit within existing zoning regulations.<br /> Increasing the population beyond original design intent is putting a strain on the entire community, and raising the possibility of life threatening consequences in an emergency.<br /><br /> To be specific, we believe that the conversion of apartments intended for middle income, stabilized, residential housing with particular demographics to dormitory style housing, with the attendant increase in population density and noise, has had negative effects that we believe are potentially serious and long-lasting. <br /> Note that we would like to think that these effects were unintended by those currently managing the property. <br /><br />(continued-next comment)gg@gutermanpartners.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-88886958552387381752012-02-11T17:51:40.656-05:002012-02-11T17:51:40.656-05:00NYU doesn't have the juice to take on a projec...NYU doesn't have the juice to take on a project like this. They're rich but they've mismanaged their endowment for years. According to them, they've got a total of $2 billion:<br /><br />http://www.nyu.edu/giving/calltoaction/faq.html<br /><br />What happens when they have to pay the real estate taxes or the electric bill!<br /><br />NYU is not going to buy this place. That's for sure. They just want to keep renting enough apartments to make most of our lives miserable...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1837176580996082182.post-59033184739964698952012-02-11T13:56:11.984-05:002012-02-11T13:56:11.984-05:00Yes it could get much worse if NYU owned us... Tal...Yes it could get much worse if NYU owned us... Talk about having the monster at your door, litteraly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com