Friday, August 28, 2009

Public Access, Dogs, Bicycles, and Security



Here’s a recent e-mail I received from a reader of this blog who has given me permission to publish it online:

I’d like to inform you of a visit I made to the Management Office. Armed with a few questions and the patience of Job, I tried to find someone in the office who I could speak to about four issues that appear to bothering longtime Stuy Town residents such as myself:

1) How can this be a private community, with signs stating that trespassers could face prosecution, when it seems that security doesn’t stop non-residents from walking through and using the property, such as the Oval?

2) What are the rules concerning dogs relieving themselves in Stuy Town and Peter Cooper? Where are they allowed to do “the numbers”?

3) What’s the status of the “no bicycle-riding” rule?

4) And why is there so little security presence in the Oval?

After speaking to a couple of people behind the desk, one of whom was clearly annoyed with my questions, I spoke to a security guard who tried to be helpful, but who didn’t have tangible explanations. Could I speak to someone else, please? Finally I had a sit-down with the head of security (who had artfully turned his badge around so I couldn’t read his name). It was a pleasant give and take, however, and I appreciate the time he took to answer my questions. Here are the responses:

1) This is “private property with public access.” Unless someone is being a nuisance, security is not going to throw them out.

2) Dogs are able to do “the numbers” anyplace, except in the areas they are not allowed on, such as the grass. This means that, yes, a dog is allowed to defecate on a walkway, as long as the owner picks up the droppings. The “curb your dog” policy has been replaced by the “pick up after your dog” policy. (The security head appeared not to know that retractable leashes that extend beyond six feet are illegal, however.)

3) Bicycle riding is still prohibited in Stuy Town and Peter Cooper. Security on occasion will hand out notices informing riders of this and each tenant has the bicycle rule on their lease when they move in. (I got the sense, though, that this rule is one that security is not too concerned about enforcing, which we all know is true.)

4) Security is always around the Oval someplace. If not in the security booth, then walking the around the Oval or investigating one of the adjacent buildings. (I assured the head of security that this has not been the case through personal observation and the observation of my neighbors I’ve spoken to.)

I did notice an increase in security presence the week following my conversation at the Management Office. Though I’m not saying that this was a direct response to the concerns I had voiced, I do think we should make sure to contact the appropriate people at Management (in person is the best and most effective way) if we want things to get done or taken seriously. I’m sure there’s a point beyond which matters will not change, but without more personal involvement from tenants, matters will certainly not change.

11 comments:

  1. They welcome complaints from long-time residents because then they know what it is that annoys us and they can do it more!

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  2. This may explain why this week Security posted a small sign on the movable barriers they use and put the barriers on the path around the Oval, near the Security booth. By the next morning the barriers had been moved to the side of the path, but I saw two officers drive up and replace them. It has had no discernable effect on bike riding. I had assumed that someone had been injured and threatened a lawsuit.

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  3. I wish someone would sue the bastards. Those bike riders have no respect for pedestrians - same goes for the idiots on skate boards. Anyone over 13 looks so stupid on those things too.

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  4. What what a informative post!
    NOT!
    Here we have an example of someone with way too much time on their hands. Nothing better to do except go and talk to some security person making minimum wage.
    What a bunch of missrable people who have nothing/nobody in their lifes. How very sad!

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  5. And you are...? Someone with nothing better to do than type nasty comments on a blog in the safety of your little room? Someone with a snotty attitude toward minimum wage workers? (I bet that security guy makes more than you do/did anyway.) How very sad indeed if you look into the mirror!

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  6. Mr/ms Blog Person;
    You write ""comments on a blog in the safety of your little room?""
    And you, I do not see your name anywhere on your blog?
    Oh That's right, "you are in the safety of your little room"
    LOL How very Hypocritical of you!
    Publish some news worthy items, not some dreck from some dried up tenant and a security guard that turns his name plate around. Must of been a news-lite day.

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  7. Amazing that someone would criticize a tenant for going to the Management Office and having a talk with the head of security. I'm the writer of the e-mail that was posted by STR. One of the problems in this community is that we have individuals (a small number I believe) who just complain 24/7 and do nothing else. Everything is a problem and Stuy Town is an awful place to live. Yet they still live in Stuy Town. Go figure. Problems do exist, of course. But only through active participation in things like the Tenants Association and through attempts to open up dialog with those who run this place can we move forward on these problems that are real and not fictions, or exaggerations, invented by people who are plain miserable (not "missrable"!) most of their lives.

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  8. STR- why did you allow that post?

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  9. If you are referring to the critical comment, on occasion I like to let out some of the "enlightened" commentary I receive to show that there are some small-minded, obsessive individuals still percolating in the background. Believe me, the platform for them is minimal here.

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  10. They only put up the barricades when the have the farmers market,,,that should be obvious to anyone who walks through the oval on a daily basis.

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  11. Actually, no. The barricades are now up at other times, too. That photo also shows the barricades at the opposite side of the Oval from the Farmers Market.

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