Our landlord, BLACKSTONE, can't handle Stuy Town and Peter Cooper Village. There is a lack of enforcement of certain "rules," and no amount of notice to this alleviates the problems. We are continually being told half-truths and fabrications. And we have no viable Tenants organization, despite our TA asking for dues all the time. So far, the politicians have proven to be basically useless. A typical New York story.
WTF is that all about? This violently aggressive dog has been living in his apartment and he decides one day to train it in an hour? I'm confused. Who is this guy? Does he still live here? Is he still harbor ing vicious dogs???
ReplyDeleteI hope he, and his dog, don't live here anymore!
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure this is the guy who PLASTERED ST and PCV with those K9 dog stickers.
ReplyDeleteThis post should be called "Attacking Dog in Stuy Town Apartment"
ReplyDeleteLooks like he moved out.
ReplyDeleteContact Details
Dream Come True K9
Dog Behaviorist Blake Rodriguez
Blake.Rodriguez@DctK9.com
Manhattan, NY 10002
550 J Grand St
http://www.dctk9.com
Dealing with dog owners about these issues is like dealing with the NRA about gun control. Don't intrude on their rights. Their dogs are good dogs. There is no issue. Outside of the growing gap in incomes, this is the most acute issue dividing the community. The rules are simply not enforceable. This is the legacy of Tishman-Speyer...a foolhardy initiative on all fronts.
ReplyDeleteTishman-Speyer. May they rot in hell. Filthy pirates who destroyed lives for the sake of the gelt. I wonder if they think they can take it with them when they go? Their name will always be synonymous with unbridled greed, avarice and rank stupidity. Nice legacy, guys.
ReplyDeleteThe skanks who live downstairs from me are partying hearty tonight. Hope they don't mind at at 9 am I am going to roll back the carpet and do my stair-stepping excercises to VERY LOUD music for a couple hours in the bedroom.
ReplyDeleteThat video was truly frightening, and I'm glad that guy doesn't live here anymore, although I feel sorry for his new neighbors.
ReplyDeleteAs for the rules not being enforceable, that's just not so. People will always be trying to break the rules--it's up to Management to enforce them. What we've seen is that Rose can't remember what the rule is on any given day and can't be bothered to enforce them. The current anarchy is the result, and we all know that outsiders are all too willing to help themselves to our premises. Bad behavior is the new normal.
"This is the legacy of Tishman-Speyer...a foolhardy initiative on all fronts."
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't foolhardy on the part of the Tishman scumbags. They needed to rent apartments and a no dog policy interfered with that goal. If lifting the no dog policy enabled them to rent apartments at the rip off rates they were charging they could have possibly made their misguided venture work. If not, they just turn over the keys like they did and leave the place in shambles. Do you think TS is losing sleep over the issues facing this community today? It was a no lose decision for them.
The head of Public Safety just about begged Tishman not to allow dogs here, but to no avail. He knew that it would become the HUGE problem that it has now become. Dogs do NOT belong here since there is no effective way to make dog owners obey the rules. On top of which, dogs barking is a major quality of life issue. I have had this problem inflicted on me by various dog-owning neighbors. And I agree that talking to dog owners about the problem is virtually impossible. The unconditional love that most of them get from their dogs make them completely blind to reason. And FYI dog owners, your dog's pee and poop KILLS plants; it doesn't fertilize them as you all apparently believe because you allow you dogs to piss and shit on every bush, plant and flower here. The only sane way to begin to control dogs here is to forbid them from being walked anywhere but beside a curb where they can do their business, just like every other dog in NYC does. OBEY THE CURB YOUR DOG LAW, DOGOWNERS!
ReplyDeleteWhat does curb your dog really mean?
ReplyDeleteThe prequel to this winter's "Attack Dogs on Ice" hosted by Lady Maya with a special appearance by Michael Vic! Come see for yourself!
ReplyDeleteDo we live in Stuy Town or Campos Plaza?
ReplyDeleteDose anyone remember the TA's fight against the no bike rule change? No!...me either. Another Fail!
ReplyDelete“The only sane way to begin to control dogs here is to forbid them from being walked anywhere but beside a curb where they can do their business, just like every other dog in NYC does. OBEY THE CURB YOUR DOG LAW, DOGOWNERS!”
ReplyDeleteDo you really think all dogs in NYC outside of PCVST are being walked beside the curb?
This no “Curb your dog law” in NYC – there is a ‘pooper scooper’ law. The ‘pooper scooper’ law, first introduced in New York City in 1978, requires all dog walkers to pick up their pet’s waste in all public areas. Failure to comply with the law is a $250 fine.
Do we live in Stuy Town or Campos Plaza?
ReplyDeleteCampos Plaza is looking better and better all the time compared to this dump.
Until there are group protests that get press objecting to unenforced, unclear dog policies, objecting to the ways in which CW & Brookfield are manipulating the community to squeeze out the most money, objecting to the truly poor actions the TA has taken with respect to these issues, control will rest completely with CW and nothing is going to change.
ReplyDeleteIf you watch the video, it's clear that this man who runs this "Dog Whisperer" type dog training business does NOT live in Stuyvesant Town, but THE DOG DOES. I wouldn't want to be in the same elevator with this animal, would you ?
ReplyDeleteTommyboy, "curb your dog" means just what it says. The law says that dogs are to be taken to the street curbside to eliminate.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't it be wonderful if dog owners actually did this ? It would be so much better than the tenant in 19 Oval who takes their dogs out directly in front of the Terrace door to urinate. Every time I pass by, there are fresh urine stains running down the entrance path. Lovely.
“Tommyboy, "curb your dog" means just what it says. The law says that dogs are to be taken to the street curbside to eliminate.”
ReplyDeleteDo you know what law says that dogs are to be taken to the street curbside to eliminate? I’ve searched the nyc.gov website and there is only reference to the ‘pooper scooper’ law within Health & Human Services. If you are going to site a specific law, please confirm the law exists first.
You know what would also be nice? If the Tenants that smoke outside the buildings don't actually throw all their cigarette butts on the ground. There are hundreds of cigarette butts littering M at my building. But of course, a little dog pee is obviously much worse.
ReplyDeleteActually, for all the dog haters, the pooper scooper law (as the former curb your dog rules no longer apply) means that you pick up after your dog where ever it does its business, including in the middle of the sidewalk or the steps of a church...and as long as you do, you're in compliance with the law.
ReplyDeleteAlso, unless otherwise posted, all grassy areas of NYC parks are also dog friendly, including most of Central Park.
And, as per the very helpful new maps posted in all ST/PCV lobby cases, most of ST/PCV is also dog friendly, including much of the grass (with the exception of flower beds and the Oval/Fountain areas), unless specifically posted to the contrary. So please, let's tone down the overheated anti-dog rhetoric.
And PS, for those who think that owning this place is such a great idea, then dog-friendly is also a major positive selling point for future owners...especially for the luxury living that the new owners (whoever they may be) will undoubtedly be attempting to push again.
And considering there are approx. 1,000+ dogs living in relatively good harmony with 15,000 people...is this really THE issue that you need to spew all your rage against?
Just saw this on DNAinfo:
ReplyDelete"BATTERY PARK CITY — The owners of Gateway Plaza are cracking down on dogs and cats — in a move furious tenants say is inhumane.
Tenants renewing their leases were shocked to learn that The LeFrak Organization, which owns the 1,712-unit Battery Park City complex, had instituted a strict new pet policy that bans more than a dozen dog breeds.
In addition to prohibiting pit bulls, German shepherds, Great Danes, Doberman Pinschers, and other breeds, along with any dog that weighs more than 40 pounds, the strict 19-point memo also limits tenants to one pet per apartment, charges a $250 "annual pet fee" and requires all cats be declawed, according to the document obtained by DNAinfo.com New York."
Read more at:
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20120823/battery-park-city/dogs-cats-targeted-gateway-plaza-pet-crackdown
"Until there are group protests that get press...."
ReplyDelete"get press" are the operative words. The more bad press Rose and CW get the better. Let the investors see what a totally unacceptable, incompetent job they do of running this place; and let them see that we tenants are sick to death of them and are not taking it quietly and just simply praying for them to go away. There's strength in numbers and I wish the TA would rally us so that we can turn out and give them some bad press. It's something that needs organization and UNITY.
@Anon August 23, 2012 10:30 AM:
ReplyDeleteThere certainly IS a law that mandates taking your animal to the curb, it's NYC Health Code law 161.03 (curb your dog) and the NY Public Health Law sec. 1310 (pooper scooper).
Why in the world do you think everyone is complaining about animal waste being left in unlawful places ?
There is no such law on the books in NYC, standing in the street between parked cars is ridiculous, I wouldn't, sentence my worse enemy to standing in the street. Stop making rules up to support your own agenda.
ReplyDeleteDoes anybody read this blog? (Wish you'd attach a link, STR). I think we know where Rose gets its "talent" for the summer catawalling "concerts":
ReplyDeletehttp://diehipster.wordpress.com/
"You know what would also be nice? If the Tenants that smoke outside the buildings don't actually throw all their cigarette butts on the ground. There are hundreds of cigarette butts littering M at my building. But of course, a little dog pee is obviously much worse."
ReplyDeleteYou're an excellent spokesperson for the dog owners living in this dump. Since we have slobs living here who throw their butts on the floor.....well.....hmmmmm...then lets allow dogs here so we can have piss running down the posts and walls and shit smears dispersed throughout the property, and hey, why not an occasional actual pile of full fledged shit (maybe even indoors on occasion!). Yeah, you make a lot of sense.
@Anon August 23, 2012 2:04 PM
ReplyDeleteWhat proof do you have that the curb law no longer applies ? Please quote statute or stop lying.
I am not Anony 5:59 PM. For what its worth, here is that section 161.03. Like the no more than 3 unrelated people who can live it an apartment law, it’s probably never enforced but it seems to me it’s still on the books.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/zoo/zoo-animal-healthcode.pdf
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/29/nyregion/29roommates.html?pagewanted=all
"A person who owns, possesses or controls a dog, cat or other animal shall not permit
the animal to commit a nuisance on a sidewalk of any public place, on a floor, wall, stairway or roof of any public or private premises used in common by the public, or on a fence, wall or stairway of a building abutting on a public place.Notes to § 161.03
This section is derived from S.C. § 227. Specific reference is made to cats as well as dogs.
The reference to walls within premises is new. Under New York City Criminal Courts Act § 102c a magistrate is empowered to try and punish a violation of this section
as an offense punishable by a fine of $25 or ten days imprisonment, or both.”
"But of course, a little dog pee is obviously much worse."
ReplyDeleteVery telling... "a little dog pee" No big deal, right?
Multiply that by 1000+ dogs, each walked 3-4 times a day, and it IS a problem. Just not for you, of course, so it doesn't matter.
There's a little patch of grass outside our building, about the size of your average suburban lawn. When Met first took the chain fence down, finally allowing residents onto the grass, it was terrific. I used to take my baby son there to play.
Now, there are at least 50 dogs from our building and the one next door that use that little patch of grass as a toilet. 3x a day. Running late for work and gotta walk Fido? No problem, there you go, the answer is right outside your door!
THAT'S why there was a No Dogs On The Grass rule initially. On paper it looks fine, but it assumed that dog owners would voluntarily comply. Hah! And, as the Security Dept well knew, enforcing that would be well nigh impossible, unless they were to dramatically increase their numbers and put on a full-court press against paying tenants.
So, your beloved little pooch isn't the only one leaving "a little dog pee" in our shared outdoor (and sometimes indoor) space. Agreed, it's not the biggest issue PCVST tenants face, but it IS an issue for the non-dog owning majority. Did you ever consider that every time your dogs start barking at each other, HUNDREDS of other tenants are forced to hear it?
The only solution I see is to come up with a workable number, and then limit the number of dog permits (yes, you'd have to go on a wait list for a permit), and to enforce it vigorously. Make the tags large and visible, perhaps even RFID enabled, so it'll be easier for the enforcement personnel to monitor. With that and a camera, it'd be a simple matter sending violators a little "something extra" in their next rent bill.
Hey CW, are you listening? It's a income stream! Get cracking!
Tommyboy, you're the one who's wrong. Close to 35 yrs ago the city ordinance was passed. It's illegal for your dog to go on the sidewalk. As of that time, people in compliance in other parts of the city bring their dogs to areas in front of hydrants and around bus stops. I know. I used to walk my friend's dog sometimes when we were living on Mad Ave. And now if you don't pick up after your dog, you can be fined.
ReplyDeleteAnon 4:01PM...The TA is hopelessly mired in contradictory pro & anti-tenants activities right now. I wouldn't look to the TA for much of anything.
ReplyDeleteYes...sure...I'll just take my dog into a bus lane or a bike lane to do its business.
ReplyDeleteSorry, but in actual practice and enforcement the Pooper Scooper Law has replaced any and all prior curb your dog laws that proceeded it. As as for ST/PCV, please note the many green and white signs now posted on lampposts that also cite the relevant Pick Up After Your dog statutes.
And for all those offended by puddles on the cement...I'd like to see anyone who can manage to walk their dog a full two blocks to the nearest external curb before the dog needs to relieve itself...it's physically impossible and no dog would/could hold its urine for that long.
And as for dogs in non-Oval grassy areas...those rules match the rules in Central Park (except for the Great Lawn).
Now...getting back to those bedbugs, roaches, rats, illegal sublets, illegal hotels, oversexed college kids and all the other true quality of life issues...
well said anon 9:57.
ReplyDeleteLet the craziness ring true, dog pee, dogs barking, cigarette butts,concerts,farmer,s markets, bikes, golf carts, cars, trucks,......oh my!
ReplyDeleteBTW, if you left your motorcycle on the 1st ave loop, ignoring he street cleaning rules, Bye Bye ! Tow. Trucks out in full force.
You know what I am wrong, the Oval Kubrick Cafe has been buzzing with customers, I know the $.50 cents egg creams are a draw....but still, who knew, gret to see lots of the elderly out, nanny's and their charges. I guess it's location, location, location. A 1,000 pardons.
Now...getting back to those bedbugs, roaches, rats, illegal sublets, illegal hotels, oversexed college kids and all the other true quality of life issues...
ReplyDeleteYou got a point......piss and shit all over the property isn't really a qol issue. What's wrong with all of us?
Oh! You walked a dog 20 years ago! Oh my! Pooper Scooper law intact, curb your dog is not a law.
ReplyDeleteI going to refence this thread and find out my new dog walking spot.
My dog does not leave garbage outside the recycling room door, my dog does not pee in the hallways, my dog does not sunbathe on the nearest lawn outside my door.
We do not toss Ikea like desks, disposable futons, bed-bug ridden mattresses on the street, invite outside groups to use the oval and athletic grounds.
Yet this is your beef, instructing a life long dog owner on the rules, common good neighbor practices, etc.
Because not only did you walk a dog 20 years ago.........you did it on Park Avenue. You must be proud of your achievement.
FWIW, I think the dog thing has been overdone here and is a distraction from our real issues.
ReplyDeleteI don't have one but I have walked them and I can say for sure that, when they decide to "go," you may well not be able to get them to the "curb." That said, you have to pick up after them. It often leaves a residual mark. It's disgusting but it is a fact of life. If they are allowed here, they are going to go, their caretakers have to pick up after them and there is probably going to be something left behind...until it rains.
I would rather see them go in the grass. Pick up what you can and let the rest wash into the soil. We might actually grow a lawn after a while if that practice were followed!
Tommyboy, you make the usual hackneyed dog owner responses (i.e. desks, mattresses, outside people using the "athletic grounds"). Anything but acknowledging the mistake of allowing dogs here. I do have to question you "let the craziness ring true" though. That one is kind of disjointed.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching four Public Safety "officers" take 30 minutes to fold the flag at the Oval, I decided to walk over to security on Ave. C to repeat my complaint about a door to outside that was not locking at my building. Seems lots of them have free time after all.
ReplyDeleteWhile waiting for nearly 15 minutes for the guard to find his "pad" and take our complaint, we watched the two guys working the wall of monitors the entire time.
To our amazement, all they were doing was zooming in on young women, oggling them, and making comments to each other that were not nearly appropriate. They were practically hi-fiving each other!
Needless to say, today our door still remains unlatched and the "Public Safety" department has found a new way to harass tenants. Better yet, this is all "on tape" I imagine...I wonder who reviews it? If there is a head of security, he needs to be fired NOW.
I decided right there, unless this place goes condo and finds new management, I will be ending my ten year tenure here at the end of my lease. I can overpay for a market rate rental and NOT be under an adolescent big brothers eye somewhere else in NYC I'm sure.
PS- the elevator in my building has also been out for over one month now. What the heck is Rose up to?
"PS- the elevator in my building has also been out for over one month now. What the heck is Rose up to?"
ReplyDeleteRose is incompetent, just like "Public Safety." You are right, the head of "PS" should be fired. I suggest you email Adam Rose directly about these issues. Maybe he actually believes that Public Safety are doing their job. He doesn't live here and probably doesn't even give this dump more than a fleeting thought. He just collects his overbloated salary and lives in Westchester, far away from the property his company is paid to manage. Maybe our QOL concerns and the totally unacceptable behavior of the keystone cops should be addressed directly to Andrew MacArthur at CW Cap.?
I'll add this to the uselessness/incompetence/ineptness/no-common-senseness of Security: For the past few evenings I noticed the light in one of the lampposts was out. (In the past, I have reported similar things, although sometimes I like to see how long it will take Management to fix it.) Last night I noticed three lights were out plus one on the other side of the lawn. I called Security to report this (the office was already closed) and was told that someone would be sent over right away. I didn't go downstairs to check, but shouldn't it be part of Security's job to notice whether lights are functioning? Isn't keeping the property well lit part of keeping it secure?
ReplyDeleteIn the 32 years that I have lived here I have never had a problem with Security. I have found them to be extremely responsive and professional on the few occasions I have had to call them and, at times, literally life-saving. I've seen how they respond to emergencies when neighbors have been ill, had accidents and, more recently, when we had a fire in our building. Also a gas leak in our building a while ago. I suspect that they get disgusted with being expected to be "campus cops," which may very well not be the job they signed up for. It certainly wasn't like that until the place was turned into a dorm. Campuses have their own security force which expect to have to deal with stupid, drunk, hysterical and immature students. Our Security was never expected to follow kids and dogs around with mops, buckets and shovels! Ever since the property became filled with students crammed into chopped-up apartments, Security has been expected to be there to shut them up, deal with angry grown up real tenants who are sick of the noise and puke-fests and in general be babysitters. The colleges should supply their own detail to keep these kids in order and let Security get on with the important job of keeping the property safe.
ReplyDeletethis is one of the funniest post for an anti dog blog that ive ever seen. this dog and owner are literally role models for half of that community that have misbehaved dogs. Ranging from aggression, to just dogs with no manners or respect in general (of all sizes and breeds). Everyone that knows the owner and the dog loves them and how well behaved this dog is around people, children and dogs and is often spotted walking in a pack that is also all well behaved. So by celebrating this and showing what seems to be a before and after video, we instead try to flip it into a bad thing and go after this owner?!!? HAHAHA It seems many (not all) of the people on here are very ignorant and bitter overall and disregarding what the video shows in the end. This guy could put up a "check out this dog today" video of little kids pulling his tail and ears and laying on him around other dogs and you would all most likely ignore that as well. Comical.
ReplyDeletePeople should begin to focus more on dogs that are actually problematic that are causing problems and address the owners and force them to seek help. If it works like it did with this owner..beautiful. If it doesnt or they refuse then get them out. The breed or size has nothing to do with it. Owners need to take responsibility if they own a dog regardless of the size or breed.
Half of you ppl will be scared of a big well behaved service dog laying at the feet of someone on a bench and then laugh at the chihuahua that is barking no stop at children, dogs and people passing by.
This owner seems like he did what he needed to do. How about the rest. As far as the other dogs and owners that are being responsible and respectful...why not leave them out of it. Go after the problem dogs, dont discriminate against the breed or size. Thats like saying no one that is a professional boxer or over the size of 6ft should be allowed to rent here bc they have the potential to cause more damage than a 5 ft human in the event that they did act out one day. Its ignorant and ridiculous. The poor pro fighter would never raise a hand outside of the ring, but bc its possible, well just deny him a shot at an apt.
I personally have seen more small problematic dogs in the world than big ones. Ill end it here and enjoy the ridiculous responses against me that come from a purely emotional and frustrated point of view rather than a logical one. This should be good.
-your neighborhood observer
this looks liek a responsible owner to me. What is the complaint. We have elevators that dont work, card keys that dont work, real issues to deal with, and we are worrying about creating laws that affect more good owners and dogs instead addressing owners and dogs that are actually problematic. Good thing most of you anti dog people dont have more of a say besides what you choose to vent about on here. get real folks.
ReplyDeletewoah. What a change in the dog! Perhaps stuy town should use this guy to help with all the problem dogs. alot of yippy yappers in my building along with dogs that dont know how to walk on the leash and lunge for kids on scooters and bark at everything that goes by. If this guy could do what he did with this dog (i believe ive seen this dog with the owner and a walker, very well behaved around other ppl and walking calmly with other dogs) then we have the answer to our dog problem here. Shouldnt punish the dogs that are behaved with the responsible owners, only the irresponsible owners and dogs that are a problem.
ReplyDeletejust checked out the website associated with the video. You might be on to something! I watched the other videos on the site and visited the youtube channel to see if i could find out more info. Maybe stuy town should link up with this guy to help them with any problematic dogs that they come across. He is seen working with all breeds and sizes...fear, aggression, seperation anxiety, obsessive barking, leash pulling, obedience etc. looks like dctk9 may walks dogs as well. I guess it does make sense to have a go to company to suggest. Maybe when security comes across a complaint or witnesses it themselves, they can contact the resident and say "listen weve had a complaint about your dog, you are to take the necessary measures to address this issue, if there is no progress within a month then we will not allow you to resign when your lease is up." And then let them know that they can go to anyone for help but also recommend this company. This sounds like a good idea to me. Could prob use a little sprucing up but you guys get the idea.
ReplyDeleteI know this dog - he lives in my building. He is one of the sweetest, best-behaved dogs in the area, and his
ReplyDeleteowner is responsible and attentive - a community-minded guy who cares about his neighbors. I would never gave guessed that the dog once suffered from such anxiety. This trainer is obviously good if the before is to be believed (the after is not in dispute).
I just looked at some of the other comments - why do you post comments that are so inflammatory? Do you want a discussion or a slug-fest?