The Joyride Truck has probably been the most obnoxious and persistent of the food trucks to descend on Stuyvesant Town. The truck is there this morning, humming away throughout the entire Oval. If you wish to make your displeasure known to Joyride, this is their contact page:
www.joyridetrucks.com/contact/contact_joyride_trucks.html
There, you will find the following:
Phone number: 646.450.1569.
The emails of the guys who run Joyride:
David Belanich: david@joyridetrucks.com
Adam Belanich: adam@joyridetrucks.com
Lev Brie: lev@joyridetrucks.com
Please let them know that you do not want their trucks in this residential neighborhood. Let them also know that you can and will let all New Yorkers know about your continued dissatisfaction at the Yelp review site. (There are already a couple of Stuy Town protests there.)
Yelp comment page for Joyride Trucks.
If you wish to call Stuy Town management about the presence of food trucks on the Oval, this is the number:
212-420-5000
david@joyridetrucks.com
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lev@joyridetrucks.com
Thank you so much for bringing joy to our Stuyvesant Town community!
Forget that waking up with Folgers in your cup - how great it is to begin my day with your Stumptown Coffee.
Thank you!!
Jeremiah Moss from the "Jeremiah's
ReplyDeleteVanishing New York" blog when commenting on the "Trojan's "Good Vibrations Truck Tour" tread at the "EV Grieve" blog posts:
"what if we had douche-magnet trucks like these, only our free condom samples would be laced with a special "I Hate NY" harmaceutical powder that would make anyone whose delicate skin comes into contact with it instantly hate the city and decide to move to Ohio?"
"douche-magnet trucks". Bravo!
"Joyride" is kind of a curious name for vehicle that just sits in one place and spews exhaust.
ReplyDeleteI tried the coffee...it sucks. The yogurt is too scary to try. You would have to be an idiot to pay those prices for bad coffee. I guess that is why they are in ST...what with all the idiots, it must be a goldmine...I'm just saying!
ReplyDeleteFood trucks in Oval or anywhere in the interior of ST violate the property's zoning. Complain to the NYC Buildings Department.
ReplyDeleteScrew the tacos and coffee, we need a tuck that sells spliffs.
ReplyDelete@ the Bat--LOLOLOL! Perhaps a few people would be less uptight and they'd certainly want the food trucks for a bit of munchie satisfaction...
ReplyDeleteHell yea and get rid of the Farmers Market too they are a blight too and all the people tanning they are just annoying and an eyesore...and get rid of the children screaming they are noise pollution and end movie night because that is just loud and and they have to put up a huge screen and even the live music what a horrible idea that is to give free music to people on a stage set up in the middle of the oval and the christmass tree that is a massive religious statement why not build a mosque in the middle.
ReplyDeleteNo, leave the suntanning beauties!
ReplyDeleteIs there any truth about the zoning laws or is this BS people toss around? If anyone REALLY knows, cut and paste some links here so we can all read.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to know this, too.
ReplyDeletehttp://home2.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/env_review/evles/02_feis.pdf
ReplyDeleteI had looked at this before, and Stuy Town is mentioned in passing, but I can't make any sense of it. Could be just city proposals for development.
Ultimately, a lawyer would need to look into all this.
ReplyDeleteAt 11.28 AM, I think that the Nancy ("because as a lawyer") Grace clone just chimed in. Next Oval event: "Dancing with the Devil through the ages.”
ReplyDelete"Ultimately, a lawyer would need to look into all this."
ReplyDeleteNancy, I know you are lurking, pleaae "Unleash the Lawyers!”
Me again, I’ll will soon need a lawyer to distribute my estate (after I commit suicide) because the woman singer in the Oval (warming up-groan) sounds like an aspiring porno star on ludes. Kill me now!
ReplyDeleteNancy's at the concert, overly caffeinated and screaming "The devil is dancing tonight!"
ReplyDelete11:28 is yet another "anonymous," not me...(though I was going to tell him/her that sadly, though he may have thought he was exaggerating, this crowd here already wants to ban those things for real). "As a lawyer," I would look into the engine running thing as a nuisance, but mostly to come up with a greener truck that has a megabattery so they don't have to run the engines. Again, I have no problem with the presence of the food trucks, just the engines running.
ReplyDeleteYour heads must be exploding today btw--5 hours of music and food trucks! Time to get out the signs and protest!
ReplyDeleteEnjoy the concert, you folks who live on the Oval. I can hear it from here, away from the Oval.
ReplyDeleteI can also hear the concert, and I don't live even close to the Oval. So much for Adam Rose supposedly "monitoring" the noise level of the "music." In fact, I think he gave the go ahead to crank up the volume. This is the loudest I've ever heard it.
ReplyDeleteI'm so glad it's hot today so I can run both my air conditioners on the highest level of fan speed and the (almost) coldest level of temperature. That drowns out the ugly, untalented cat-a-walling from the Oval.
ReplyDelete>>In fact, I think he gave the go ahead to crank up the volume.<<
ReplyDeleteLady Maya probably did that. She's been around the Oval since the morning.
But, hey, it's the last Summer on the Oval concert. They want to be heard by everyone!
For a real concert, head up to Damrosch Park.
ReplyDeleteHey, I just figured who this singer is. It’s Zombie Amy Winehouse. And she’s not sounding too good after being underground for the past couple of days. Did I say that? Also Counsel. Can you please confirm that from a quality, aesthetic, landscaping architecture point of view, that you really believe that trucks (I don’t care if they are solar powered) belong on one of the premier, private manmade open spaces that is located Manhattan?
ReplyDeleteDoes anybody know what time this atrocious concert is supposed to end? It's unbelievably loud in our apt. for HOURS now, and our Saturday has been pretty much ruined as a result. Thank you, Adam Rose!
ReplyDeleteI was passing by the Oval a couple of hours ago, and I swear for a moment I thought Yoko Ono was performing. Who was that shrieking?
ReplyDeleteYou grumpsters are missing quite a fun and delightful evening on the lawn with nice crowd of neighbors. A full-line up of music, food, drink, fun, laughter, dancing and family. We, along with many of your neighbors, are truly enjoying it. Too bad you couldn't join us.
ReplyDeleteWas Lady Maya the lady carrying the six corn dogs, two milkshakes and wearing the hat made of fried dough? Has anyone thought to seek help for her and her food obsession/addiction?
ReplyDeleteI am all the way over on 14th and I can hear that fucking banshee wailing in the Oval. Thank you, Adam Rose. Thank you for ruining the day for so many more people who live here than there were people (mostly outsiders) actually in the Oval soaking up the "culture" and "gourmet" shit you have brought to us. You were obviously sent to knock the last nail in the coffin of what used to be a very pleasant place to live.
ReplyDeleteAnon 7:09 PM: Are you management or American Leisure?
ReplyDeleteSorry, I actually was at or near the concert two times and it was pretty bad. That woman singer screeching. What the hell was that?
I also thought I heard (I was inside my apartment by then, an apartment NOT near the Oval) a guy screeching too. Seriously.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/zone/map12c.pdf
ReplyDeleteThis is the link to the zoning map that includes ST and PCV. ST is zoned residential and has commercial overlays on the perimeter streets, e.g. First Avenue and parts of 14th and 20th streets. Those commercial overlays allow commercial activity in those areas. There is NO commercial overlay anywhere in the interior, therefore, commercial activity is not allowed.
If that map tells the entire tale....?
ReplyDeleteWe have a couple of commercial enterprises running inside the residential area of Stuy Town. The food trucks are one, but they, because they move, are perhaps not considered as "commercial" in the scheme of things.
The Oval Amenities also can be considered commercial. Yes, no? The yearly fee probably wouldn't be a problem, but they do charge non-members for entry, thereby possibly making them a commercial entity.
One also wonders where the green market fits into this.
Green markets are covered by different local laws--it's not a zoning thing, it's a permit thing. I happen to work in this field, and know that the city is very pro-farmers markets and encourages them as a way to increase access to fresh, healthy food. You probably should just enjoy it since we obviously need more local, fresh, organic, healthy food--Associated is not really a viable option for my family's food.
ReplyDeleteGreenmarkets are a permit thing when they are on city streets. I do not believe they are a permit thing on residentially zoned property. There is, to my knowledge, no permits for the ST greenmarket. The greenmarket is commercial activity and takes place in a location that is not zoned for commercial activity.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that the trucks are movable is neither her nor there. The question is whether the residentially zoned property is being used for a commercial purpose.
I don't know about the Oval amenities - yet. The question there is whether they meet the requirements for being a community facility as set forth in the City's zoning resolution. That issue needs more research but the charge for non-members could be a factor.
The farmers market is perfectly legal. It just is. Permitted, etc. There is no real "residential zoning" in NYC, not like you think in the suburbs anyway. This isn't a gated community and the owners can't arbitrarily bar legitimate licensees from using it (not as in getting a license, but in the common law legal definition). Nor do the residents have a real standing to challenge absent a real nuisance (and no, smushed grass is not a nuisance, don't waate your money on legal fees). It's checked out and legal. Pick your battles. I would move on to a different issue with more import and grounds for challenge at this point.
ReplyDeleteI think the best way we can deal with these Oval Annoyances and Vendors is to just boycott them. The local business that rent space from Rose should just look to take their businesses elsewhere when their leases exire. That way Rose will be even deeper in the financial dung and maybe CW will see what idiots they are and remove them.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry--I feed my whole family on Farmer's market produce, so I don't think they'll miss the business you never gave them anyway. Greenmarket wouldn't put one here and farmers wouldn't participate if they didn't make money here. I love our local farmers, much much more than industrially produced food-like substances at Associated or worse. The market for farmers markets have exploded more than 300 percent in less than 15 years--folks just don't want to buy food that has been shipped from Chile, California, grown with chemicals, lacking in nutrition, etc. Less than 3 percent of the food in corporate stores come from local producers, and less than 3 percent of the money stays local. It's good for the city, the economy, our health, the watershed, the community, etc. to support local farming.
ReplyDeleteI prefer the one in Union Square. Better produce, more variety and better prices.
ReplyDeleteWrong! Walmart buys the majority of their produce from local vendors as does Whole Foods. But since your way smarter than the rest of us, you keep paying those inflated prices at the ST farmers market for your whole family's produce. I wiil continue to purchase mine from Walmart and I will use the money I saved there and the money I save on my well under market price apartment to fix up the house I just bought by being wise. (Sorry to you and Rose Ass. but its a vacation home, I'm not going anywhere, except on weekends!!!!)
ReplyDeleteActually, that's just not true. But it's certainly your right to pay rock bottom prices for the food you put in your and your kids bodies and not be concerned with where they come from. I like to pay a bit more and know the source of my food, though our farmers charge far, FAR less than Whole Foods, who also doesn't get the majority of their products locally, and when they do, they squeeze the farmer for a low price. Healthy, well-produced food just costs more than factory farmed, chemically-enhanced, genetically modified for high production food-like substances. It just does. To me, it's worth more.
ReplyDeleteFarmers are growing our food that we feed our children. They deserve respect. Unlike factory farms, our local farmers at the market:
> generally use no chemicals or pesticides,
> they use restorative farming methods to ensure we don't lose our topsoil and important biodiversity,
> they don't create dangerous run-off that enters our watershed,
> catch and bring the freshest fish but keep those that are being threatened to repopulate before they fish them,
> they employ and help drive other local food-related business, like bakers, sauce-makers, beer makers, wine makers, local feed, vets, grain mills, creameries to process the organic milk, artisanal cheesemakers who use milk from pasture raised goats and sheep, instead of anti-biotic filled cows milk, local wool and clothing, jams and preserves, bread-makers, vinegars, nuts and oils,
> their food travels much less distance, having far less impact on the environment, and bringing us food that was picked hours or a couple of days, not weeks before and then pumped full of chemicals to stay fresh looking.
These issues may not be important to you but they are to many many many of us here in Stuytown. Having a farmers market is a wonderful thing, and I will certainly keep patronizing them to ensure our local food-system is healthy, transparent and secure. I don't want to turn my entire food supply over to a corporation like Walmart, though again, you are free to use your hard-earned money to give to Walmart, Cargill, ADM and Monsanto. They actually control over 90 percent of our food supply. I would like to reduce that number and share our food dollars with smaller, family-owned farmers.
I just wish that the Farmers Market would set up shop in one of the playgrounds instead of on part of the Oval because they do leave a terrible "footprint" there.
ReplyDeleteFrankly, losing a couple hundred square feet of pesticide-ridden lawn is hardly a loss to me. I love a nice open lawn of natural grass and pretty native "weeds", but there's nothing so special about the grass on the edge of the asphalt that I hold dear to my heart. The look and import of locally-grown organic vegetables and healthy foods and happy people buying from our farmers are a bit more gorgeous and vital to me than Round-up treated lawn.
ReplyDeleteI've nothing against the Farmers Market here. In fact, the rich smell of the produce is nice and invigorating. (As for buying, I only bought strawberries once from the market and they were not as tasty as I thought they should be for the price charged, so it's back to Driscoll.)
ReplyDeleteBut the area the market has been placed in is now in terrible condition. Surely everyone can see that? Something needs to be done, and I'm afraid it won't be to move the market, because Rose wants to give the market the best traffic flow.
Also, do note that this previous Sunday there was a business booth in that area, too. Nothing to do with farmers or their food.
BTW, personally I don't think eating supposedly more healthy food from the Farmers Market is going to add anyone more days of life than buying produce from Associated.
There is an article on Yahoo today that states that Walmart is buying locally. So your statement that it isn't true is disingenuous. As far as all your bullet points, well I can top them all with the fact that the food you buy at the farmers market isn't tested. Therefore, the likelihood of food born diseases is much greater at your house than mine!
ReplyDelete>>Frankly, losing a couple hundred square feet of pesticide-ridden lawn is hardly a loss to me.<<
ReplyDeleteIt's too bad that you have such a shitty attitude about the lawn, and kinda surprising, as I'd think you'd be all for "green."
Just be aware (because I think you are a relatively recent resident?) that bit by bit the Oval Lawn is being reduced in size.
If you put into your Google search, "organic food scam" you will come up with dozens upon dozens of pages that explain why "organic" may be just another way of taking more money out of the American public than necessary.
ReplyDeleteWhen you hear reference to "organic scam" that means Walmart and other corporate greenwashing, not small, locally produced food from farmers screened by our city Greenmarket. Walmart says "local" but that means 12 travel hours to them. That's practically Florida. That's not our local economy and to achieve the low prices you think you should pay for the food that goes into your mouth (eek), they go to the where there is industrial, chemically-proced farming and call that local, not New York area local family farms.
ReplyDeleteAnd there is NOTHING green about pesticide ridden lawns. That is becoming the bane of most communities, not something to strive for. Native plants, vegetable gardens and other "victory garden" plantings are what makes a healthy green area. Not Round-up drenched lawns.
And our food system is responsible for most of the health problems in our country: cancer, obesity and diabetes, asthma. You can pretend otherwise, and call whatever some delivery truck from Cargill or ADM calls food, but it's just not true. Eat it if you want, as is your right, but don't expect a long, healthy life. My parents Italian gardener grew everything himself and even made his own wine, prosciutto, his wife rolled her own pasta, and they both never, I mean, NEVER, saw a doctor, until at 80, his prostate got a bit blocked. And based on that illness, he couldn't believe what happened when you go to the doctor. Meanwhile, he's pushing 90 and still gardening. He manages to plant like 250 tomato plants and 150 pepper plants among other things into his own 50 foot wide property.
While it may be difficult to trust anonymous, I have checked it out. It is a zonining violation. And yes, there is such a thing as residential zoning and this is, whenever mangement wants it to be, a gated community.
ReplyDeleteWhether or not it is healthy food etc. is all a bunch of irrelevant BS. The issue is whether it is illegal commercial use of the property in violation of he zoning resolution. My bet is that it is.
Why this big debate over organic produce or regular produce? Stuyvesant Town is a RESIDENTIAL complex, not a fucking town square. We have shops all over New York City, including quite a few on 14th Street and First Avenue who pay high rents to Rose ASSociates. I don't care whether your great granny lived to 112 because she ate organic food then dropped dead the moment she tasted a plum purchased at Associated, the point is that this is a RESIDENTIAL (got that? - it's RESIDENTIAL) complex and we should not have to deal with these fucking commercial enterprises, whether artisinal or filthy greasepits on wheels, in the midst of our RESIDENTIAL apartment complex. Ro$e is violating zoning laws and polluting the quality of life in this RESIDENTIAL property they are so badly mismanaging. You want organic veggies? Fine, go to Union Square or Whole Foods. They are in commercially zoned areas where they should be. This skanky little outfit that comes here every Sunday and all the food trucks are totally out of place here and I wish they would be eliminated.
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ReplyDeleteMobile food vendors have been handed 2,517 violations this year ranging from poor personal hygiene, to serving up mystery meat, to live rodents, but the city Health Department doesn't grade them or let the public know just how filthy they are. These records were obtained by The Post through a Freedom of Information Law request.
In just four months, food vendor Bulent Isci earned 16 violations, making him the city's biggest violator.
Isci manhandled food instead of using a utensil, and failed to wash his hands "after visiting the toilet, coughing, sneezing, smoking [or] preparing raw foods," records show.
Yech! I always wonder about that "artisinal" cheese at the farmers market. Doesn't look too wholesome to me!
ReplyDeleteBuy whatever vegetables you like--organic or otherwise. Just stop ripping up what's left of the grass.
ReplyDeleteDo your veggies taste somewhat different if they are purchased from a market paved with asphalt? Perhaps that makes them less organic...