That sound is magnified about 100 times when you are there in person, and though I don't live around the Ice Rink, it sounds shattering to those that do. (Hat tip to a blog reader for the video.)
You know those Christmas trees that are being thrown away around the property? Particularly the Christmas tree "hill" at the 20 St. Loop? I just don't understand how some dog owners lack the awareness or courtesy to NOT let their dogs piss on those trees. I see dog owners even head there on purpose to let their fidos do their thing. Some worker is going to have to pick up those urine-dripping and smelling trees, but that doesn't matter to these dog owners. Yes, most dog owners are responsible, but others lack something between their ears.
I would gladly trade the hockey noise from the skating rink for my upstairs "neighbors".
ReplyDeleteI don't know whether Stuy Town rents to pachyderms but these clods clomp around like a herd of elephants.
They wear their high heels at 3:00AM in the morning, move furniture at ungodly hours and carpeting?..you gotta be kidding?!
I put a very mild note under their door asking for a little consideration...nada.
I need advice?
What should I do? Complain to management? Pound on the ceiling? Confront them in a more confrontational manner?
HELP! What should I do?
Frankly I don't want to hear from any more dog owners here who say most of them are good people, it's just a few who are inconsiderate. So far as I'm concerned, the situation is unworkable. Everywhere else owners must curb their dogs. Here the dogs are allowed to shit on the sidewalks. Not only are there plenty of mutts right here, they also come in from the other side of 14th and the other side of 1st. With so many dogs all headed to go within the same common areas, it doesn't take many inconsiderate owners to mess up the area for all of us.
ReplyDeleteSo what is management really going to be able to do about this??? If we want decent sidewalks and decent grassy areas, the dogs will have to go.
4:58 PM: Call PS and keep on calling them. Ask the PS officers for their names and make sure you keep a log of all the times you call them. Don't confront the assholes upstairs yourself. Persevere with PS. If that doesn't work, file a complaint with HPD. You have every right to do that.
ReplyDelete@8:44 PM, I don't think they can reverse the dogs allowed rule at this point. What would work would be if there was a rigorous enforcement of the rules. We are paying for Public Safety and the myriad cameras around the property. If PS would do the job and issue tickets for fines and order people from outside who are walking their dogs to GET OFF THE PROPERTY, things would definitely improve. Let's hope the new management enforces the rules here and doesn't just fart out empty promises.
ReplyDelete1/10/16-4.58 PM
ReplyDeleteA start.
http://www.stpcvta.org/kb/entry/50/
Unless Blackstone changes the current PCVST business model(packing in students/millennials) and starts to enforce the QOL lease regulations, this is a war that goes on forever because roommates change every month. Current CR management does not give a shit. Try to make one of the remaining meet and greets with Blackstone.
http://stuytownreport.blogspot.com/2016/01/breaking-news-compassrock-out-new.html
Yeah, management has to address, admit and take action. Something is up with the not carpeting the dorms here. They paid for and installed their furniture, just not carpet. Ever wonder why?
ReplyDeleteEvery sound is amplified since we were informed last week there are no boards. They were stripped and there is a thin thin layer between you and everyone else.
Call lawyer, apparently fast and great results.
>>I don't think they can reverse the dogs allowed rule at this point. What would work would be if there was a rigorous enforcement of the rules. We are paying for Public Safety and the myriad cameras around the property. If PS would do the job and issue tickets for fines and order people from outside who are walking their dogs to GET OFF THE PROPERTY, things would definitely improve. Let's hope the new management enforces the rules here and doesn't just fart out empty promises.<<
ReplyDeleteThe lack of enforcement of the dog rules is really pathetic. Once in blue moon, you'll see PS get on the ball for a couple of days, and then back to the same old. A moratorium on dogs would mandate efficient enforcement, and we know that PS would not be able to do that job, given their past lack of enforcement on other dog issues.
>>Every sound is amplified since we were informed last week there are no boards.<<
ReplyDeleteIs this solid info or just speculation? So they remove the old parquet floors and replace them with thin wood?
"Yeah, management has to address, admit and take action. Something is up with the not carpeting the dorms here. They paid for and installed their furniture, just not carpet. Ever wonder why?"
ReplyDeleteThis info is basically incorrect. Only the 100-200(?)of the NYU official graduate school level apartments have preinstalled carpets and furniture. NYU is the lease holder. That’s why these NYU graduate students have an 11 month cycle in those apartments. There is also a rumor that Parsons and The New School lease some apartments directly as well, I do not know if they are pre furnished as well. As has been posted been posted here at this blog, the overwhelming majority of “dorm” style apartmenst here (thousands-can also be a mix of students and the just post graduate crowd) are leased directly with the leasing office, the students themselves holding the lease as tenants of record, their parents guaranteeing the lease. These apartments are NOT furnished. That is why about every 6 months, you see the discarded furniture dump of the parental funded "Children of the Corn" strewn about both in ST and PCV. BTW, all this is legal(I know, frigging outrageous) as per NYS RS law which currently (until 6/2020), all PCVST apartments are regulated under.
Is this solid info or just speculation? So they remove the old parquet floors and replace them with thin wood?
ReplyDeleteThis is absolutely the truth
they rip up our beautiful floors under renovation even the workers know this is a sin
new floors very noisy
I'm assuming that renovated apartments get the cheapest possible materials. I've heard that the new stuff falls apart fairly quickly.
ReplyDeleteBTW, me again, who is this lawyer you always seem to refer to?
ReplyDelete"Is this solid info or just speculation? So they remove the old parquet floors and replace them with thin wood?
Sorry, speculation,IMO. I have been inside these renovated apartments between tenant occupancy, the old parquet floors are either refurbished or replaced with similar wood. This is obvious by looking at the endless PCVST Craig list roommate advertisements which show the floors which have either zero or a very low percentage of carpet coverage with very skimpy rugs. Since PCVST construction is basically just concrete slabs with wood parquet floors (typical post WW II project type construction), if there is no real carpet coverage (the so called carpet that CR claims is “complaint” is bullshit) the result is one vast echo chamber, whether you live above or below the apartment that is in violation of their lease.
What I will agree upon is these so called “improvements” in renovated apartments, be the microwaves, dish washers, A/Cs (the window ones suck, they are cheap Sharp models, not sure if the new in line ones suck as well) etc., are cheap and break down all the time. The amortization accounting vacancy decontrol rules for apartment renovations that initially bought these apartments out of the NYS RS law, then back (again, ends 6/2020 for all Roberts and post Roberts renovated apartments) again was upheld by the Roberts J-51 ruling as per a snapshot audit for the so called "legal" rent.
http://town-village.com/2014/09/17/fire-starts-in-microwave-in-peter-cooper-village/
http://www.garodnick.com/press-release/roberts-settlement-plain-language
Now before anyone jumps on me for providing a Garodnick Roberts link, this interpretation by Garodnick of how this increase would be fought has become BS but the legal foundation (CR could increase rents mid lease) is correct as is for the rest of the pure legal Roberts (not any of the political posturing) points in the link.
"When rents could go up: CW Capital has the right to raise rents in the middle of the lease term once this settlement is final. While this may become their legal right, any effort to raise rents on residents during their current leases will be met with sure and certain opposition from the entire community, the local elected officials, and the broader community of tenant activists. "
When no dogs were allowed, obviously enforcement was easy. What do you think PS can or will do now??? They can't be everywhere, especially many of the inner areas. So if owners don't want to pick up after, most of the time they won't be caught. And if they do catch them, so what? Suppose they come from outside the complex. What can PS do? IN any case, if people say 'hey, I forgot my bag. Sorry.' Or they refuse to give their names, what can PS do?
ReplyDeleteFor now I'd like to know what the new rules are with respect to size and breed. Of course, the dog owners who are in violation will say...what do you want me to do? Kill my dog?
I think some minor enforcement might be possible, but I think the proposition for now is clear. The dogs are here, there is little that can be done to avoid the piss stains and the shit left behind. Like it or lump it.
I completely agree that PS is a total waste in most cases. But I challenge anyone here to give us concrete examples of what enforcement would look like. I'll bet you can't cite anything convincing.
I think the situation is simple. No dogs allowed, the issue goes away. Dogs allowed, there is little that can be done.
>>I completely agree that PS is a total waste in most cases. But I challenge anyone here to give us concrete examples of what enforcement would look like. I'll bet you can't cite anything convincing.
ReplyDeleteI think the situation is simple. No dogs allowed, the issue goes away. Dogs allowed, there is little that can be done.<<
I like challenges, so let's see....
PS has the ability to write tickets, so they should be writing violation tickets when they come across something that warrants one, instead of just listening to a story, nodding their heads, and then letting a person go.
PS obviously can't be everyplace, but it can set up operations in areas that are frequented by dog owners. Certainly they can be, and ARE!, at the guard booth in PCV on 1st Ave. I've seen dog owners from outside walk right past that booth and the guard inside either sees the dog and does nothing or is too busy doing something else to notice. I've even seen a guard confront the dog owner, but the owner was some hot babe, so he was more interested in her...and let her go on the way through the complex! A guard at the entrance to Stuy Town opposite Ave A would also result in a number of dog owners heading from the East Village being denied access. Then there's the guard booth at the Oval. The PS person there, if he's there, many times is on his cell phone, and even if he is not, he never says anything about a non-registered dog or an illegal breed. How's about him waking up and performing his duty. AND, on top of that, I've seen PS standing outside of the PS office and ignoring any dog infraction in front of them!
HER OR HIS POINT WAS OR IS THAT CR AND CWC FURNISHED THE UNITS , 100 200, WHATVER, BUT DID NOT CARPET THEM. LMAO
ReplyDeleteDON'T YOU GET IT?
The units in st and Pcv have no floorboards. Never have. Yes, it is sucky awful. Been dealing with it since 1975 but at least most of us hen had carpets.
ReplyDeleteI agree with STR (12:01), but there are a few other things that we need to realize.
ReplyDelete1) How much is PS getting paid? I would be more than willing to bet that they aren't getting paid an amount that they are going to rush resolve. We may think it's major, but to them it is probably the status quo and doesn't necessitate the hassle that comes along with it.
2) What is their incentive? It's not like the NYPD, where you can move up in ranks based on certain factors. They are most likely stuck where they are, with little room for advancement. Again, why deal with the hassle if there is no real incentive?
3) How do tenants really view PS? I would say that a majority view them as "rent-a-cops," which is a term I hate. Overall, they are not respected, so why put that extra leg forward?
I know a lot of you will probably say that a job is a job, and they should do it as per the rules. Until you are in a position where you are paid a minimal amount and hassled beyond belief, I don't think we can judge.
"HER OR HIS POINT WAS OR IS THAT CR AND CWC FURNISHED THE UNITS , 100 200, WHATVER, BUT DID NOT CARPET THEM. LMAO"
ReplyDeleteReally now?
"•Apartments are furnished"
http://gsas.nyu.edu/page/grad.financialaid.mhp
NYU, the lease holders of these graduate student apartments, would not make that claim in writing at their public graduate student web link if they were not in compliance of the 80% carpet requirement. NYU furnishes these apartments. NOT CWC/CR. They are evil (NYU) but they are not stupid. My point also was that, again, thousands of these dorm apartments are not furnished at ALL since the lease holders are the students. LMAO!
DON"T YOU GET IT?
Dan's role model/mentor skates
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/nyregion/in-moreland-commission-inquiry-insufficient-evidence-to-prove-a-crime.html?action=click&contentCollection=nyregion®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=0
Moreland Commission Inquiry Finds ‘Insufficient Evidence’ to Prove a Crime
"A statement released on Monday from the office of Preet Bharara, the United States attorney for the Southern District of New York, indicated “there is insufficient evidence to prove a federal crime.”
... Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, had no immediate response, but his counsel, Elkan Abramowitz, thanked Mr. Bharara’s office for acknowledging that no charges would be brought.
“We were always confident there was no illegality here, and we appreciate the U.S. attorney clarifying this for the public record,” Mr. Abramowitz said in a statement.
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Note how Cuomo's attorney/spokesperson conflates "insufficient evidence to prove a federal crime” with "no illegality"
>>3) How do tenants really view PS? I would say that a majority view them as "rent-a-cops," which is a term I hate. Overall, they are not respected, so why put that extra leg forward?
ReplyDeleteI know a lot of you will probably say that a job is a job, and they should do it as per the rules. Until you are in a position where you are paid a minimal amount and hassled beyond belief, I don't think we can judge.<<
I'm not sure about #3. I don't disrespect PS and appreciate them being here. And they do arrive when there is a "real" need. I think we need to look higher up. I still am uncertain if management is not the real culprit here and has instituted a silent policy of looking the other way on dog issues. I would hope the new management insists on doing otherwise.
As for PS' pay grade, I've been in low-paying jobs and my sense of responsibility and personal pride have not allowed me to just collect a pay check for minimal effort. You get paid, I expect you to do the job. No excuses. Sorry.
Also being a PS officer in Stuy Town/Peter Cooper is not the hardest job in the world or even remotely close to it. This is relatively a very safe community, and the only hassle is that it's so large and a lot of people are bitching (rightfully so).
Also.... Some of you may remember that several years ago a PS officer got into a confrontation with, who else?, but a dog owner who was disobeying the dog rules. I believe, the owner even threw his little mutt at the officer. Management did not have this officer's back and fired him.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure that took some wind out of PS officers going after irresponsible dog owners.
Column in Daily News about how much money Blackstone is making on the STPCV purchase. The politicians and most significantly the TA Board completely screwed us in the negotiations and then had the audacity to pat themselves on the back repe and atedly and as nausem for the " great" job they did for tenants
ReplyDeleteWhy are you worrying and complaining about PS? They only do what their boss tells them to. Focus people. Focus, your issues are not with PS, with your Lying Motherfucker landlord. So glad we are moving.
ReplyDeleteDer, you don't get it. NYU furnishes with what CWC instructed them to furnish! IT WAS NOT CARPET, IT'S NOT CARPETS. lmao
ReplyDeleteSTR...sorry, you cite weak examples of what can be done about the dogs. There are so many entrances to ST and PCV, the dog owners from the outside will figure out the best ways in.
ReplyDeleteBut what about the people with dogs here? The flagstones in front of 370 1st were so stained with pee, they were beyond disgusting. What is PS to do when the owners say...oh, sorry. He just went. I couldn't stop him.
Or when they say...sorry, I forgot my bag. Nothing I can do. I'll come back later.
You say PS can write tickets. First I've heard. They aren't the police. They can't force people to do anything. So when people refuse to give their names, what will PS do? Say 'please'?
Tell us more about these tickets? Are they NYPD tickets? How are they enforced? What are the penalties?
What's really laughable is someone here in effect writes...well, PS is low paid...can't expect them to do anything. LOL.
Can PS have more of an effect than it has. Sure. A bit more. Will they...even marginally? I'm not taking any bets.
There are times when compromise works and times when it doesn't. For those of us fed up with the dog shit and piss, I fail to see how compromise will work. The moment Tishman-Speyer allowed dogs in order to appeal to higher income families, that was the end of respectable, effective maintenance here.
You might have thought that only the new families would want the dogs. But that's not the case. I see plenty of long timers...whether they're just dog lovers or deeply lonely people looking for love...I have no doubt that they will fight to the bitter end to have their dogs.
At least when the dogs weren't allowed, this issue didn't exist to divide us. Now it's just one more issue to divide us started up thanks to the morons at Tishman-Speyer.
Oh, I agree that there is no real solution because dogs are allowed. We are doomed to live around dog piss and feces stains. As for ticket writing, I'm sure I read this in Town & Village and probably on the TA Facebook page that was quoting it. It may have been in an interview with the PS chief.
ReplyDelete7/3/12 T&V dog reg enforcement article. See Jim Roth's comment.
ReplyDeletehttp://town-village.com/2012/07/03/security-cracking-down-on-dog-policies/
Find a lawyer. It's NYCity. There are hundreds who handle tenant issues here. How d you not know this?
ReplyDelete30% less noise and air pollution thanks to the Greenery (and the upkeep) enjoyed by joggers and dogwalkers. The PCV ST problem is not the dogs. It is the construction, the arboricide, the poor property management maintenance, operations and cleanliness. Wait until De Blasio starts up with his music festivals and drunk students ferrying home to pass out in the PCV ST Oval dorms.
ReplyDeletehttp://nypost.com/2016/01/11/high-line-far-less-polluted-than-sidewalk-underneath-it/
Some (but not all) members of the PS force have been trained to write ECB summonses under their Peace Officer status. They are answerable to the City of New York. If someone refuses to give their name, the NYPD will certainly be summoned.
ReplyDeleteTo be clear. Dogs are NOT allowed to defecate on public sidewalks in NYC.
ReplyDeleteHealth Code § 161.03 Control of dogs and other animals to prevent nuisance.
A person who owns, possesses or controls a dog, cat or other animal shall not permit
the animal to commit a nuisance on a SIDEWALK of any public place, on a floor, wall,
stairway or roof of any public or private premises used in common by the public, or on a
fence, wall or stairway of a building abutting on a public place.
I don’t know if a case can be made for Blackstone allowing this as STPCV is private property. It’s for sure a health risk to 30,000 residents doesn’t change just because the sidewalks are on private rather than public property.
It’s also worth noting that not only are owners responsible to clean up after their dogs, property owners are too. And that appears to be true regardless if the property is private. That's means Blackstone has a responsibility. So in the future, if a mess is left, I suggest you report it to Blackstone and if it isn't dealt with in a timely way, the matter can be reported to the city. See: http://www1.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/service/1535/dog-or-animal-waste-complaint.
If Blackstone is in earnest about being responsive, this would mean having someone on the staff available to clean up when reports are sent in. There’s something for Blackstone to consider and respond to.
BTW, CR did try establishing a dog run opposite the small fountain on Peter Cooper Road. Within a few months the grass was gone and the area was a terrible, dusty eyesore. Eventually, they put the fencing back up and re-grew the grass.
To those who think a dog run might be a good idea, I too think it’s good idea...right next to their buildings. I wonder if a dog run is even legal or a health risk if embedded within a densely populated residential areas like STPCV.
If I may, I think the poster, and many of us know that management is happy to furnish (albeit NYU can do it) with everything but the rugs.
ReplyDeleteWe know they don't give a shit.
PS enforces the dog rule usually when I deal with them, but they cannot do anything about illegal breeds IF management ALLOWS them to be registered
ReplyDelete. If they have proper tags and are on a leash they are all good.
Kind of a shitty place to be when you can't do your job because your boss' break the rules so you cannot do it.
January 11, 2016 at 7:33 PM
ReplyDeleteSTR, Here is your solution. No new tenants are allowed dogs when they sign their lease. Old rule is being phased out. Heavy fines will be issued otherwise. In about 10 years from now, all the dogs will have either moved with their owners or have died. End of story! Doesn't take rocket scientist to figure this out. "This is Ground Control to Major Tom".
Hi In the past month I have twice phoned Mgmt Office main # to report dog waste on the main walking paths near my building near the rink. In both cases the matter was attended to in a timely way. My point being instead of posting here about the misery of sering pet waste, call and report it and maybe like me you will have a satisfying resolution. Just try it and see what happens. Hoping for cleaner footpaths in 2016 under new ownership.
ReplyDelete>>STR, Here is your solution. No new tenants are allowed dogs when they sign their lease. Old rule is being phased out. Heavy fines will be issued otherwise. In about 10 years from now, all the dogs will have either moved with their owners or have died. End of story! Doesn't take rocket scientist to figure this out. "This is Ground Control to Major Tom".<<
ReplyDeleteAh, but you are forgetting one thing: A tenant can keep a dog if management hasn't done anything about the dog in three months. It would be simple, given the lack of effectiveness of PS on dog issues and the amount of dogs here already, for a new tenant to keep a dog "hidden" for three months, and then the dog is a legal inhabitant. I agree with you, though, but I doubt PS could enforce a no new dogs rule.
http://cooperator.com/article/how-legal-is-that-doggy-in-the-window
7:41 great idea. Run it by the new owners.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to post a video in my apartment of the noise from neighboring tenants but it's probably a bad idea. New owners are not even listening nor caring.
We have an inspection coming up and I'm going to borrow a friends rug. Yes the thin tissue twenty dollar type from urban outfitters that slide around like a tissue. and then return to him! OK? Inspections are nonsense.
ReplyDelete@7:56..." In the past month I have twice phoned Mgmt Office main # to report dog waste on the main walking paths near my building near the rink. In both cases the matter was attended to in a timely way"
ReplyDeleteThat's reasonable and might be the best we can hope for. What's missing here is a policy statement from mgt. Meanwhile, everyone should phone them in.
January 13, 2016 at 8:17 AM
ReplyDeleteGotcha!
& no worries about the overcharges Blackstone. The tenants can pay for it.
ReplyDeleteFishman & Malone. Sue the rude hillbillies living here who don't have rugs and manners.
ReplyDeletehttp://money.cnn.com/2016/01/13/real_estate/anonymous-real-estate-purchases/index.html?section=money_latest
ReplyDeleteAs far as removing dogs by waiting for them to die?
ReplyDeleteOther than lifting Tishman Spyers business plan of fast-turning apartments to market rate. This has to be one of the most distasteful ideas I have read on this blog.
Oh boy oh boy!!!! Got my $1.95 security deposit interest check.
ReplyDeleteWhat the fuck?????
>>As far as removing dogs by waiting for them to die?
ReplyDeleteOther than lifting Tishman Spyers business plan of fast-turning apartments to market rate. This has to be one of the most distasteful ideas I have read on this blog.<<
I didn't think this was a plan, but a realistic look at what would happen if no new dogs were allowed. Yeah, we die, dogs die. Eventually. What's the outrage?
Must be a dog owner who got bent out of shape. Not distasteful, but a fact of life. Get over it.
ReplyDeleteDan Garodnick @DanGarodnick 19h19 hours ago
ReplyDeleteStuyTown makes appearance in @NYGovCuomo video, intro to his #SOTS2016 #NYSOS speech (reference to rent regs). @bradhoylman @BrianKavanaghNY
Governor Cuomo and his office are closely involved with everything that occurs in Peter Cooper Village Stuyvesant Town. He is watching over us.
Fix the phony fake upgrades and inflated rents which are illegal and inside building issues, then we can talk about dogs and hockey rink. Rather live near hockey which is a few months of the year than current apartment which is hell 12 months a year.
ReplyDeleteAs I said all along, dogs DO NOT BELONG HERE. That's why Met Life had this policy in place for all those years, for these reasons only. End of story. Sorry dog owners! Move to the "country" then, and step in and clean up all the dog *@#$! you want.
ReplyDeleteJanuary 14, 2016 at 11:56 AM
ReplyDeletetou·ché !!
Why are the politicians letting NYU campus takeover multifamily housing in the East and West Village? They hoped to get GE but in the end GE chose Boston, the true center for higher education and innovation. NY has become a city without a personality, is it Dubai on the Hudson? Casinos and Convention Center Vegas II? We fairly and squarely lost the DNC to Philly because NY flaunted wealth and money and NYC lost GE because this city is trying to be anything other than what is once was, the most unique, greatest city in the world. But the loss of GE may be a gain for NY taxpayers and infrastructure. GE is one of the richest corporations and still NY tried bribing them with hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to set up shop. Let Boston have GE and hope they do not pollute the Waters and let's put that GE money into our infrastructure.
ReplyDeleteGE made its announcement at the same time that Gov. Andrew Cuomo was giving his State of the State address.
http://www.timesunion.com/tuplus-local/article/In-blow-to-NY-and-Cuomo-GE-picks-Boston-for-new-6756127.php
https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2016/01/13/general-electric-will-announce-tomorrow-that-has-selected-boston-for-global-headquarters-according-official-familiar-with-process/ZYZSu7GorfVTRXM2ZIaabJ/story.html
Ditto!
ReplyDeleteFix the phony fake upgrades and inflated rents which are illegal and inside building issues, then we can talk about dogs and hockey rink. Rather live near hockey which is a few months of the year than current apartment which is hell 12 months a year.
January 14, 2016 at 8:46 AM
upgrades, even those that are false and inflated = overcharges. NO one cares.
ReplyDelete"upgrades, even those that are false and inflated = overcharges. NO one cares."
ReplyDeleteOh yes they care and they care a lot and they are doing whatever it takes to cover up the inflated overcharges they are ripping off StuyTown tenants with and they are pissy whenever tenants have the nerve to oppose the RipOff charges because they want to scare tenants because they do not want to have to give back the money plus interest they steal with overcharges.
None of these 'problems' will improve.
ReplyDeleteAnyone notice Blackstone Rick Hayduk using the NYU Step and Repeat (reported in the T&V) now officially using the NYU campus name StuyTown? We are a college campus and the Ferry is for students to get to all the Applied Sciences campuses. It has nothing to do with giving better access to working New Yorkers and EVERYTHING to do with a commute route for students between campuses and music festival parties. This summer is going to mark the first of the NYC drunken college music fest that will put the NYC city sponsored SantaCon to shame. Coming Soon Bloomberg / NYU StuyTown with Oval music festival brought to you by NYU Mayor DeBlasio and the NYU City Council. Using NYU students for the inspections on working middle class was a low blow.
ReplyDeleteThe harassing of families, long time tenants, working citizens continues as the thousands of students push us out of house and home.
http://mamamilkandme.com/tag/stuyvesant-town/
I'm just saying for the longest time here, management (Met Life) & the infrastructure here did not allow air conditioners. Shall we dwell on the past about all decisions that were made in the 50's. Waiting for people or dogs to die off as a fact of life, I imagine you are a lot of fun at parties
ReplyDeleteAllowing dogs in the complex was a terrible decision by Robbie Speyer, one that has caused anger and divisiveness among tenants, and made this place filthy with dog stains and even lumps of unpicked crap. I don't think anyone is "waiting" for dogs to die. It's just a fact that if the door to owning a dog were closed now, there would be a time when there would be no dogs at some future date, excepting service dogs. I fully realize that dogs can be wonderful companions for people and that most dog owners are responsible and pick up after their dog, but it's just a fact that the more dogs there are, the filthier this place becomes.
ReplyDeleteProperty Management could easily hose the walkways regularly and keep the place clean but they are using the overfilled littered recycling areas and poop on sidewalks to harass tenants out. Plus as long as tenants are focusing on poop and trash they are not paying attention to the overcharging market rate rents.
ReplyDeleteJanuary 15, 2016 at 8:47 AM
ReplyDeleteFunnier than you could EVER imagine.
Now they are fudging the numbers on amount of people living here. Our floor alone went from 12 to 22 since MetLife sold us. This fudging effects the MCI charges.
ReplyDelete9:34 you got that right. New shit management worse than the old. Where's Donalda? Still doing nada?
ReplyDeleteAC vs dogs? Really poster? So not even close to being similar.
ReplyDeleteOh yes they care and they care a lot and they are doing whatever it takes to cover up the inflated overcharges they are ripping off StuyTown tenants with and they are pissy whenever tenants have the nerve to oppose the RipOff charges because they want to scare tenants because they do not want to have to give back the money plus interest they steal with overcharges.
ReplyDeleteFile with the DHCR; File with lawyers - get this out to the public!!
"A Change Is Gonna Come"
ReplyDeleteI was born by the river in a little tent
Oh, and just like the river I've been running ever since
It's been a long, a long time coming
But I know a change gon' come, oh yes it will
It's been too hard living, but I'm afraid to die
'Cause I don't know what's up there beyond the sky
It's been a long, a long time coming
But I know a change gon' come, oh yes it will
I go to the movie and I go down town
Somebody keep telling me don't hang around
It's been a long, a long time coming
But I know a change gon' come, oh yes it will
Then I go to my brother
And I say, "Brother, help me please."
But he winds up knockin' me
Back down on my knees
There been times that I thought I couldn't last for long
But now I think I'm able to carry on
It's been a long, a long time coming
But I know a change gon' come, oh yes it will
The recycling areas are absolutely disgusting. People put food waste in the bins and nobody heeds the signs that indicate which bins are for plastics and which are for paper, etc. Everything is left for the porters to sort and those guys have to dig through the stinking food waste to separate the stuff. I don't think the new people moving in here know how read or they just don't care. I never put take anything to the recycling areas anymore (except glass because it is dangerous to the porters if it is put down the garbage chute). Everything goes down the chute because it is just pointless to try to recycle here. If so many people foul up the recycling areas, then what's the point of even having them?
ReplyDeleteAt least the llc loophole exposed who is buying who. Now when they close it what is there to expose these criminals, the bribers and the bribed politicians?
ReplyDeleteAlready been notified about an apartment inspection. My whole floor as well.
ReplyDeleteLet the games begin, again.
That is because our councilperson refuses to write a law against inspections that are more like investigations for anything they can use to harass tenants. They are looking for problems and things that do not exist just to use anything to disturb your life and stress you out. Aren't inspections supposed to be allowed only for a very few reasons and aren't the reasons supposed to be specific and stated on the notice? Our kids don't want these hooligans coming in our private spaces.
ReplyDeleteWow that didn't take long for Rick Hayduk to approve the issuing of inspections! So much for his apology on the treatment by the former owners! Just more of the same with all of them!
ReplyDeleteCan we title a post NO RUGS APARTMENT NOISE then as well as HOCKEY noise?
ReplyDeleteDoes Mayor DeBlasio have dirt on Governor Cuomo that he is keeping hush hush?
ReplyDelete“There's a phrase in American history, ‘by any means necessary’,” said de Blasio, “I would invoke that phrase.”
“We will fight these cuts,” said de Blasio pledging to seek help from both chambers of the state legislature. He added, “[The cuts] are unprecedented and they are unfair to our city.”
http://www.wnyc.org/story/de-blasio-fight-state-budget-cuts-any-means-necessary/
Hours later governor Cuomo backs down
De Blasio relieved at Cuomo's decision to nix budget cuts for NYC
A relieved Mayor de Blasio said he is happy that Gov. Cuomo is walking back plans to hit the city with a whopping $800 million in extra costs, and said he expects him to keep his promise.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/de-blasio-relieved-cuomo-decision-nix-budget-cuts-article-1.2498095
If there is one thing we know it is that Governor Cuomo never keeps his word, flip flops whenever it suits himself best and certainly will again stab the Mayor in the back after the dust settles on whatever the Mayor currently has on the Governor.
Refrigerator compliance
ReplyDeleteA/C compliance
Smoke detector compliance
Chipped paint
Those are the current four inspection items.
Hayduk says carpet inspection will now be included as well. On a 2 year cycle as per a posting at the TA FB page. The problem with dorm style apartments is that their roommates can be gone monthly and they are gone in a year so a two year inspection cycle does nothing.
Property Management could easily hose the walkways regularly
ReplyDeleteHow 'bout this? All registered dog owners pay a monthly surcharge to hire extra workers, whose job would be exclusively to hose down and clean up all the walkways? Or require dog owners to join a labor co-op and spend a few hours a month doing the same?
Not too much to ask, is it?
Owners and supers of buildings are required by law to keep the walkways, city sidewalks and 6 inches into the city streets clean and clear. There is no need for tenants to pay for walkways to be kept sanitary and clean.
ReplyDeleteIt is the law the owners must do this.
If they spent more time inspecting the walkways are they are supposed to by law, instead of inspecting the apartments refrigerators and air conditioners the complex would be safer.
Choose people. Many posts complain about non-enforcement of the 80% floor covering rule and want mgmt. to enforce the rules. Mgmt. sets up inspections and NOW the inspections are a problem for some of you? But I guess your view is that you don't break the rules and mgmt. should know this via some type of magic?
ReplyDeleteLet the inspectors do their jobs. And let's then see whether mgmt. is successful in enforcing a QOL issue. They deserve the chance to succeed or fail. We can then assess their performance.
So the hockey bombers are back this Saturday AM and those 6 man boys are having so much fun! SLAM! WHACK! BANG! They deserve their fun and to hell with the neighborhood! And the rink personnel can't control them, and our Recreation personnel can't control them. Infantile man-boys will show up everyone they can. Good job fellas!
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It's true that is the law. Owners are supposed to keep walkways clean and clear.
ReplyDeleteI'm a dog owner and am pretty disgusted by the amount of crap left on walkways and such. But a monthly fee would be a bad idea. Things would only get worse because then no one would clean up after their dogs. Why would they. They're now paying someone else to do it. I would also renters who spit gum and cigarette butts on the ground be fined, but as i said earlier, things would get worse.
ReplyDeleteSaying that. Management really should charge renters who let their dogs in the no dog areas and/or leave poop behind. A boots on the ground team especially at night would pay for itself in weeks. I'm also not opposed to dog owners paying a DNA database charge. When poop is found and identified, the owner is fined for the violation and lab tests. If you don't enter the database you will be charged monthly for non-compliance.
What about people with dogs who come off-property? They should be asked to leave. This is private property. No tags. No ID. Off you go. At night, more gates should be manned or closed. This would also cut down on delivery bikes and scooters.
Lastly, there are too many dogs. I believe new leases should have a no dog clause. Inspections for pets should be tied in with carpet inspections within two months. But if the renter can hide the dog and get past the three months now the dog can stay rule, they should be fined heavily and often for a non-registered non dna compliance dog.
Management and Public Safety should enforce the laws pertaining to dogs, noise and all quality of life issues and stop looking the other way. Sloppy, lazy management and poor enforcement are the root of all the QOL problems here. CW's only interest was raking in the money, no matter what the cost to the quality of life here, and Compass Rock simply followed this policy of gouging tenants and letting the QOL deteriorate to a hellish level because they didn't care. They didn't live on site, and so long as they got their pay checks they didn't give a flying fuck. Tenants were just an inconvenience to them.
ReplyDelete>>What about people with dogs who come off-property? They should be asked to leave. This is private property. No tags. No ID. Off you go. At night, more gates should be manned or closed. This would also cut down on delivery bikes and scooters.<<
ReplyDeleteProbably the easiest thing to enforce, actually, but PS will have to up their game considerably. If PS needs more officers, so be it. And one wouldn't have to have them posted at the main entry points all the time, just, initially, during the busy times for dogs to be walked. And, yes, if a dog owner is heading from outside and the dog has no tag, then out they go, immediately. None of this excuse BS or letting in dog owners who are hot chicks.
Oh, another big problem that I was reminded of reading the non-TA ST/PCV Facebook page: dog leashes. The rule is they cannot be extended beyond 6 feet, and yet we have a good number of dog walkers who extend them beyond that legal limit. This is not only a hazard (bicyclists have a hard time seeing these near invisible leashes), but unneighborly, as someone walking or jogging along has to go out of his or her way to circle around the dog owner and his/her very long leash.
ReplyDeleteDonalda inspected us for a carpet twice. We were in compliance everywhere but at the little area at the front door entrance (because it would get dirty fast) but she let us buy a little entryway rug that week and came back the next time we were able to take time off of work and rush home during business hours, she saw the entry doormat we placed inside our home and she passed us. She is a nice lady and was pleasant to deal with. She told us to be sure to keep the doormat in the house and not outside the door in the public hall (like we preferred), so the entryway is 80% covered and our neighbors halls are not blocked. Our family has always been good, quiet neighbors. Inspections are stressful and we had to take time off work twice for that. From neighbors they say the new inspectors look around and through everything, beyond what they are there to "inspect". MetLife only inspected when there was a complaint. Tishman Speyer and CompassRock inspected with aggression to pry into our lives and dig up any little speck of dirt. Blackstone is looking more like Tishman Speyer Compass Rock then MetLife. If you have a problem with noise, then file a complaint and have the tenants inspected for rugs. But this "every two year" inspections is not a good way for Rick Hayduk to begin. We already had our stove, our air conditioner, our refrigerator, our closets and our medicine cabinets inspected, in every room of the house by Tishman Speyer Compass Rock and all the same people are in the management office so they have all our inspection paperwork. These broad inspections are not friendly, they are hostile and unnecessary. Those complaining about noise, go address your complaints through the proper complaint channels and leave the rest of us out of it. We have our own busy hectic schedules and our own problems and do not need to be lumped in with anyone else's so let's all just take care of ourselves, take action on behalf of ourselves, and stop whining worse than the kindergarten kids about noisy neighbors. There are plenty of ways to address it like an adult that actually do work, property management, security, 311, a lawyer.
ReplyDeleteThis is what Peter Cooper Village Stuyvesant Town Tenants should be focusing on.
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So the kids who can't play outside and have zero manners are awake this Saturday AM and woke us up at 7 am. Hard working, paying rent tenants can't get sleep or stability. Our place is shaking from the running to and fro What fun. SLAM! WHACK! BANG! They deserve their fun and to hell with the other tenants. And the parent can't control them, and our PS or manager can't control them.
ReplyDeleteNo none will stop doing what they do unless they have to pay to stop. That's why smart tenants get lawyers and smarter management fines the tenants. All else is total bs mouth crap to keep you quiet.
ReplyDeleteThe problems on this thread are easy to resolve and frankly embarrassing, if this is the worse of your tenant problems then you have it pretty darn good (hockey rink noise aside as that is a really big and bad problem, could cause sever health issues, stress, migraines, sleeplessness, that noise, the puck banging noise pollution is a health hazard. Try complaining to the DEP.
ReplyDeleteSTR@ 12:35 pm - Right on�� These illegal leashes are a huge hazard . People are using them & are oblivious to the possibility of a very bad accident. Not only joggers but walkers, children, etc. I am not sure if they are unaware of this NYC law or don't care. I just saw a woman let her adorable doggie jump over the new , decorative, lower fence. He jumped over , she smiled & the dog did his business. Cute. Dog jumped back over & they scurried home. I am sure- to be repeated again, & again. The dog issue & the noise from neighbors are the top priorities. Also, litter. Has anyone noticed the candy wrappers, receipts, Starbucks cups & napkins all strewn around the property??? This is also true as you look around theoutside perimeter of the property . Nice message to send . This never happened before CW took over. We need more people to clean up around the property. I know for a fact there is a " cleaning team" to prep the new apartments for the next tenants. Maybe we can reshuffle the deck & let some of these people clean up the property. Good idea???? I am feeling very optimistic about our new General Manager & Blackstone. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Keep up the good work STR.
ReplyDeleteThere are places to build dog run not near apartments: Asser Levy Park being one. StuyCove Park is another. Murphy Brothers Playground's another. And Con Edison.
ReplyDeleteThere is a horrifying comment on the TA fb about a dog ripping out the eyeballs of another dog. If that happened on the property (and the inference is that it did), how come we never read about it in T&V or heard of it before?
ReplyDeleteNow is the time to get these dog issues addressed. Please keep bringing them up.
ReplyDeleteThere have been a couple of new comments regarding complaining about issues and they are heading into a flamewar, which is not wanted here. So please understand.
ReplyDeleteIf someone has a complaint, fine. There is no priority to a complaint; it's a matter of personal opinion. Some may consider the dog issue a priority, others the high cost of their rent. Each complaint is valid for the person making it. I also don't think we need to ignore minor issues. All problems should be addressed and can be addressed by management.
Are these inspections legal? Am I living in America or Soviet Russia? If someone has noise complaints lodged against them I can understand inspections of carpets, etc., but if there is no complaint, why the inspection? My upstairs neighbors have wall-to-wall carpets, but they walk like elephants and shake the floor/my ceiling. I don't complain because people can't help it if they are heavy-footed. We live in apartments, not houses in a field. Expect to be aware that you are surrounded by live, living people who actually walk on the floor, instead of flying like Peter Pan. Expect to hear water running, dishes clanking, etc., etc. If it is such a problem, go live in a house in the middle of a large field in Kansas or Nebraska or Alaska. Then you will probably complain about owls hooting, wolves howling and all the nighttime critters of the countryside - oh, and the cows mooing in the morning and the birds twittering at dawn.
ReplyDeleteSome people should just live in a bubble.
>>If it is such a problem, go live in a house in the middle of a large field in Kansas or Nebraska or Alaska.<<
ReplyDeleteSorry, I've never been a fan of the argument, "You live in the city, so don't complain about noise; if you don't want noise, go live in the country." People have a right to live in an environment that is basically noise free. No loud music from a neighbor, clicking heels overhead, a dog barking incessantly, etc. That's why there are noise rules...even in NYC. Being a good neighbor should not have to be so taxing and unbearable.
Kinda think the noisy rude people would be better suited in a corn field in Kansas. Get some manners.
ReplyDeleteOn our MCI for the college campus security system does anyone know why in October 2013 DHCR granted the MCI increase to Tishman Speyer Pcvst Mngmt LLc
ReplyDeletec/o Realty Program Consultants LLC
86-33 Palermo Street
Holliswood NY 11423
Who owns these llc companies and why is Tishman Speyer granted this in 2013?
It says Management cannot charge for replacement cards. Is that still true?
The TA flyer they sent "In Plain English" did not cover any of this (although several languages are spoken in our house including advanced English). It seems someone at the State had to approve the plans, and the installations for the colleges, who is that person? Was any of this ever really challenged at all?
STR, it's reasonable to expect quiet, but not silence. Some folk want absolute silence and that is not reasonable. Some people complain about every little sound of others living around them.
ReplyDeleteMy kids wet running smock playing ball in our place when I was at work. Check your sitter. I had no idea until Stuy threatened to evict us
Delete8 01 Right O str. Especially when we have 25 playgrounds to choose from, parks, bars, band halls, nightclubs. And O, stores that sell rugs. Unless the tenants can't afford rugs or are too cheapass to cover floors?
ReplyDeleteSaid the students blasting music and the dad who won't buy carpet.
ReplyDeleteWhose "brilliant" idea was it to turn this place into a dorm? This was a really nice place to live before we became over-run with students. Was this that Speyer creature's idea or did it pre-date him? The strain on the infrastructure from these kids must be colossal and it is so unfair to "real" tenants to have to put up with dorm crap. This project, PCV and ST, wasn't built to be a dorm and it was, and still is, a really bad idea to try to convert it into a dorm.
ReplyDeleteI know that Speyer is famous for his lack of intelligence and insight (Larry Fink of BlackRock was the Cheney to Speyer's Bush), but even he couldn't have come up with a worse idea than to convert the property into a dorm. The quality of life has gone down the toilet (and stairs) since we became a dorm for undergrads with no manners and no upbringing. The best I can say for most of them is that their fathers should have masturbated.
I believe "dorm life" started with Met at the tail end of its reign. Robbie Speyer went full blast on it. ST/PCV was then being advertised for the student crowd. CW continued pushing the dormification.
ReplyDeleteWe have seen a 5,000 tenant increase in recent years, and I'd bet most of that increase is in student tenants who are being packed into apartments that have increased in room count via partitions.
Of course, legally, one can't deny students an apartment if they meet the qualifications, financial and otherwise. But there is zero attempt to uncover if the student renters of one apartment go beyond the allowed three unrelated. And the partitioning of apartments can stop.
I suspect that the new Blackstone management will continue the dormification of ST/PCV. Money talks.
God help us all if these REBNY darlings advance to the targeted offices where they have the eyes locked.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/exclusive-city-politicians-prep-cash-2018-state-runs-article-1.2499787
REntal market softening so prepare for more students. What else is there and more families and educated adults now know that this place is mainly for losers. Better rentals across town, downtown.
ReplyDeleteTrying to wrap my head around 3 guys or 3 to 4 girls sharing one bathroom. It's utterly gross.
ReplyDeleteHayduk said they will inspect apts for partitioning. I believe that. CW as agent could not have cared less. Blackstone as owner will want to make sure nothing upsets the apple cart.
ReplyDeleteHayduk has said they aren't marketing to students. I believe that too because
Blackstone doesn't have to market to students to get student applicants. The word is already out there so the schools themselves will do the marketing.
Of course, Blackstone can always change policy but whether they're marketing to students or not, students are here to stay.
The student issues moving forward will focus on controlling noise and management reactions to violations of its own stated policies.
What about the partitions that are put in by management? I was seeing a lot of those carted about earlier this month.
ReplyDelete"Of course, legally, one can't deny students an apartment if they meet the qualifications, financial and otherwise. "
ReplyDeleteRequire the tenants of record, not a third party like their parents, guarantee the lease.
"God help us all if these REBNY darlings advance to the targeted offices where they have the eyes locked.
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I wouldn't vote for Garodnick if he was running for dog catcher. In fact I would vote for anybody who was running against him. He is a weasel. A total weasel.
confusing here. Why would they check flats for partisions? THEY ARE THE ONES WHO INSTALLED THEM. MY GOD.
ReplyDeleteIf you are on FB:
ReplyDelete"Annual REBNY Gala -- Counter Party"
https://www.facebook.com/events/584575635024563/
If not on FB, these are the details. No TA involvement so there is no excuse for not showing up.
Protest the 120th Annual REBNY Banquet
Date: Thursday, January 21, 2016
Time: 6:00pm
Location: New York Hilton Midtown, 1335 Ave of the Americas, New York, NY 10019
The Real Estate Board of New York (REBNY), a notorious culprit responsible for luxury development and displacement in New York City, will be holding their 120th Annual Banquet. The banquet is expected to be well attended by members of City Hall, including Mayor of Two Cities, Bill de Blasio himself. REBNY has found Mayor de Blasio's administration to be “an open door.” But over the past two years, the people of New York City have found Mayor de Blasio to be a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
We denounce the underhanded deals between developers and NYC elected officials who receive large campaign contributions from them. We reject Mayor de Blasio’s zoning plan for NYC that promotes luxury development, pushing out our local businesses and services, displacing more people of color and working families, and eliminating more affordable units than it claims to create. We call on all New Yorkers to join in a grassroots alliance to stop Mayor de Blasio’s developer-led zoning plans, and demand a People First plan for our communities that will protect us against displacement. Let’s take back our city!
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The following Tenants Rights Guide from NYS might be of use to tenants:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/pdfs/publications/Tenants_Rights.pdf
Wasting time, paper and typing space if anyone thinks they won't rent to students. A it is illegal and B they have to fill thousands of apartments that turn over. Who ya think wants our crap shit now? No one decent!
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of REBNY, their annual gala is this week. But, this year there will be some "unwelcome guests"... See below.
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Hope to see you there. Bring some eggs!
Laundry room door left open repeatedly by tenants who leave it open as well as basement door and laundry stolen! Packages Stolen. DUH!
ReplyDeleteNote * This management, new or not is not handling problems. They're yes yes yessing you, passing the buck and doing nothing regrading tenant complaints This will be the worst since Met Life. Mark the words people.
ReplyDeleteThe fact remains they want you out. MR and Non MR. It's in their best interest to turn over rather than keep any of us on. Therefore nothing changes and only gets worse. WE all know this is their way of making us, none of us, 'stabilized'. It's done and we have to face it.
ReplyDeleteRug and or Noisy complaints in stuypcv?
ReplyDeleteCall Donalda. She approves all, no one has to cover floors according to Donalda Habersham so do not worry or @ the very least, she might just recommend one or two small crepe thin slippery rugs available at CVS. Tis perfect! It's so EZ living here!
S.O.S.
ReplyDeleteWhat? They still pay DH to do what exactly? LILLLLLLLLLLLLL
ReplyDelete"Call Donalda. She approves all, no one has to cover floors according to Donalda Habersham so do not worry or @ the very least, she might just recommend one or two small crepe thin slippery rugs available at CVS. Tis perfect! It's so EZ living here!"
ReplyDeleteTruer words never spoken, never mind the recent post at the TA FB page where she actually seemed to do her job which she has not done for, what, 12 years and counting? Give her a nice package Blackstone and buh bye!