Our landlord, BLACKSTONE, can't handle Stuy Town and Peter Cooper Village. There is a lack of enforcement of certain "rules," and no amount of notice to this alleviates the problems. We are continually being told half-truths and fabrications. And we have no viable Tenants organization, despite our TA asking for dues all the time. So far, the politicians have proven to be basically useless. A typical New York story.
Thursday, March 1, 2018
One More Down
At first, I thought the noise was coming from an apartment that needed the important upgrade. But, no. As I neared the Oval, I saw that a huge tree had gone down. The photos will tell the story. One less shaded area in the Oval. Sorry.
Each successive bunch of bastards since MetLife has destroyed more and more of the Oval. They call this place an Oasis. It used to be, but not now, so they should take the word out of their advertising shit. This is just another ugly-assed NYC Housing Project. They don't all belong to NYCHA.
A pool would interfere with the Oval “Carnival Cruise” events like the movies and concerts. A pool would also interfere with the holiday special events. Also, there is the liability issue which would be major; the ice rink is enough of a liability issue for Blackstone/SPS. PS enforcement of the infamous “residents and their guests” rule would be problematic as well. As for this tree cutting, their paid for arborist company would say that the tree was old and diseased but this is par for the course for them to market the Oval to their preferred demo, flyover state transient single millennials. More sunbathing, more “special events”, etc.. Trees are for shade, wildlife (especially birds) and for introspective thoughts, not good for their current “Boca/Woo-Hoo/Focus Group” marketing strategy.
"Trees are for shade, wildlife (especially birds) and for introspective thoughts, not good for their current “Boca/Woo-Hoo/Focus Group” marketing strategy."
YOU SAID IT!!!!! I WISH THESE ASSHOLES WOULD GO BACK TO BOCA AND STAY THERE!
Would love a pool. Now that would be a real amenity but not practical here. The place is too big and populated.And I cannot imagine it would be pleasant with all of the dorm crowd and transients who would use it. Wish they would wipe out all of the other crap they call amenities here especially those concerts and Oval movies.
Large Pool in the Summertime and a large Ice skating rink in the winter, Concerts in the Spring and Fall. All you need is a 'Retractable' and your all set. Totally awesome! Charge money, no brainer. Good bye beautiful Oval forever.
As most "amenities," a pool will present various problems, but be good for marketing. So, it's a battle between reality and marketing. Which will win out?
Problems? Like there aren't multiple problems already? This place likes the more people the better. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT PROBLEMS. Just continue to run this place into the ground and make money. That's what it is all about. Have a nice weekend.
Drownings are a much more serious liability than pretty much any of the other amenities liabilities, where an injury is really the top concern. I just don't see it happening for that reason - a story about a kid drowning in a Stuy Town pool would hit the media in a heartbeat, whereas a kid who breaks his leg ice skating wouldn't even hit this blog.
"Drownings are a much more serious liability than pretty much any of the other amenities liabilities"
PCVST was NYC's safest residential community during the highest crime era (late 1960s - mid 1990's). No exaggeration. Look it up. It wasn't luck and it wasn't a fluke. During those exciting years this place truly was an 80-acre oasis. Right up until 2007 (Before Speyer) PCVST was world renowned for being the best place to live and raise a family in Manhattan, if not all of NYC. Residents looked forwarded to living here for multiple generations. There was a 7-10 year waiting list to get in. That historic PCVST community was worth the wait. Tens of thousands of intelligent, savvy NYC residents patiently waited to call PCVST their home. Just ask lifetime resident Dan Garodnick about all that.
Today this place is done. It's over. It's finished. It all ended when De Blasio, Garodnick and TA Boardmembers needlessly handed our homes over to Blackstone, which after Speyer should have been prevented from getting anywhere near this property. Instead, working and scheming for Blackstone, our lying conniving elected officials guaranteed in writing this historic community will soon become extinct. They killed it off for Blackstone.
Now during NYC's lowest crime era, it seems frequent violent assaults covered up by Blackstone are the most serious physical liability misinformed PCVST residents should worry about.
Why was the long time PCVST security chief suddenly forced into retirement?
To limit Blackstone's civil lawsuit liability stemming from a recent 10-minute violent assault and attempted rape infamously videotaped by PCVST's multi million dollar, high tech video security system. That brutal crime was not adequately responded to because obviously Blackstone didn't give a flying f#%k about PCVST resident safety.
No way would a pool work here. Too many buildings and apartments. Even if there was a membership charge, it still would not be feasible in such a large development with overfilled apartments and many transients.
After being renovated and floors sanded down multiple times I truly think there is a paper thin layer between me and the upstairs tenant. Either the owners of this ghetto need to wall to wall these apartments or we are posting a full page large complaint on all social media and local papers.
After being renovated and floors sanded down multiple times I truly think there is a paper thin layer between me and the upstairs tenant. Either the owners of this ghetto need to wall to wall these apartments or we are posting a full page large complaint on all social media and local papers.
The owners will NEVER wall-to-wall carpet apartments because wall-to-wall carpeting doesn't appeal to potential tenants and they desperately need these potential tenants to fill the thousands of empty apartments here. Ask any of the top, management people and, if they're being honest with you, they'll admit this.
However, if you haven't requested that management do a carpet inspection on the people living above you, you should. And you should stay on management until they do and until they make your upstairs neighbors 80% carpet their apartment, like the lease they signed requires them to do.
Unfortunately I have had to contact PS each September when new students move in above each of the past 3 years to perform a carpet inspection. One thing I’ve leaened - property services stated that tenants only need to carpet 80% of the exposed floors after furniture, beds, etc... not 80% of the flooring in apartment. This is a different spin on house rules - as they do not state this. Wish I knew this when I moved in, I Wouldn’t have spent so much money on pudding in carpenting.
Basically, you have push and keep pushing. Whether it's by design to keep one frustrated or not, that is the unfortunate responsibility of everyone here. A lot of people just give up.
And I was told, by someone who we know in Management, that the 80% rule is only true when ALL the space is counted. In other words, that one could have less than 80% in a room if another room has more. So, you could have a room that has, say, 40% carpeting, if another area or areas have more. This was said with the straight face and the person looking directly at me.
"This was said with the straight face and the person looking directly at me."
STR, you know these people are accomplished liars! They may not do anything else with any degree of excellence, but when it comes to lying they are accomplished to perfection. Utter perfection.
And I was told, by someone who we know in Management, that the 80% rule is only true when ALL the space is counted. In other words, that one could have less than 80% in a room if another room has more. So, you could have a room that has, say, 40% carpeting, if another area or areas have more. This was said with the straight face and the person looking directly at me.
This is the kind of nonsense you spew when you want to spin the situation so you don’t have to make tenants do what it says in the lease they signed. And it’s total and complete BS. The 80% requirement has NEVER been interpreted this absurd way in the past and it shouldn't be now, either. Doing so would be a dishonest and deliberate attempt on Management's part to avoid their properly enforcing this regulation. It's a good thing that whoever said this to you, STR, didn't say it to me or he/she would have been very sorry, that's for sure. 80% of floors IN EACH ROOM/AREA, excluding the kitchen and bathroom, need to be covered. Here's the video of GM and CEO Rick Hayduk, himself, explaining exactly why 80% coverage is required: NOISE. Clearly, allowing a tenant to 100% carpet their bedroom so they can then carpet their living room only 40% would thwart the sole intention - the reduction of noise - of the 80% floor covering provision of leases.
Dorm Living for Professionals Comes to San Francisco By Nellie Bowles March 4, 2018 SAN FRANCISCO
"In search of reasonable rent, the middle-class backbone of San Francisco — maitre d’s, teachers, bookstore managers, lounge musicians, copywriters and merchandise planners — are engaging in an unusual experiment in communal living: They are moving into dorms.
Shared bathrooms at the end of the hall and having no individual kitchen or living room is becoming less weird for some of the city’s workers thanks to Starcity, a new development company that is expressly creating dorms for many of the non-tech population..."
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Blackstone smears lipstick on Pigstuytown Dormitory/Hotel where living rooms, private baths and kitchens are replaced by skate rink and outdoor concert "lifestyle amenities"
student on our floor told us they have a 3 month stay and then they move out. Several schools now do this. In 3 months they leave and another comes in. It's a fucking hotel then. by the way, an apartment in our building has bedbugs. You would think the honest upstanding managers and landlord would notify adjoining tenants.
That TA site puts out such crap. Today they posted something on dorm living for professionals on their site. How about some action on heat and noise issues. They ignore the problems we face here. Truly a waste and an arm of management. Glad I didn’t pay dues
The tree on the Oval was dead. We got a text message about it last week.
The message said: Regrettably, a tree close to your building will be removed on Wednesday 2/28/18. It's a large pin oak located by the Public Restrooms at 18 Stuyvesant Oval on the Oval Lawn. Unfortunately, it is deceased and its condition is creating a hazard. Removal will take place between 9am and 4pm. Thank you.
6.47 PM. Thank you for your post, you are 100% correct, it’s 80% for EACH room excluding the kitchen and bathroom. That includes the apartment hallway as well.
"student on our floor told us they have a 3 month stay and then they move out. Several schools now do this. In 3 months they leave and another comes in."
"And I was told, by someone who we know in Management, that the 80% rule is only true when ALL the space is counted. In other words, that one could have less than 80% in a room if another room has more. So, you could have a room that has, say, 40% carpeting, if another area or areas have more. This was said with the straight face and the person looking directly at me."
This is not what Nicole veras rivera or Nicole rivera or whatever the fuck her name is said to me. she 80 percent of each room. not that it matters. these a##holes are all lying through their teeth. they say whatever they need to say to work to their advantage. they are disgusting trash.
March 2, 2018 at 3:47 PM this is all true. pls send this to the T&V anonymously if you like, as this represents a large percentage of tenants here and I'm sick of this sh!t being spun like everything is running smoothly. as for carpet inspections, you can talk all you want about pushing and pushing--in the end, they will just tell you they did an inspection, and no inspection was done. you have zero recourse. please stop spewing these fucking bromides like "if at first you don't succeed..." that's nonsense. if they don't want to inspect, they wont inspect. if they want to lie about the results, they'll lie about the results.
Every day I see more and more students(different faces) coming in and out of my building. Blackstone has a lot of nerve saying that they do not actively rent to any group. This is increasingly becoming more of a dorm dump.
>>The tree on the Oval was dead. We got a text message about it last week.<<
>>Yeah, I know.<<
So the point of this post is...to what? Stir the s**t for no reason?
There are real issues out there, STR. Why are you reporting about Management taking down a dead tree? That's just good landscaping. I'm sure that they'll plant something in its place.
>>So the point of this post is...to what? Stir the s**t for no reason?<<
The point is that I came across this while it was happening and I decided to take pictures. I decided others would like to see these photos, as we live here. You may have a problem with that, however.
You know (and it's been said before), Blogger is free, so you can easily start your own blog and show whatever photos you like.
The answer is obvious, dumpster pools, I mean what would be more fitting, each loop gets one! You get a pool, you get a pool, & you get a pool, & yes you get a pool!
Every day I see more and more students(different faces) coming in and out of my building. Blackstone has a lot of nerve saying that they do not actively rent to any group. This is increasingly becoming more of a dorm dump.
Blackstone/Management don't have to actively promote living here to students. THE MANY SCHOOLS THAT STUDENTS ATTEND DO THE JOB FOR THEM by suggesting to their students that they look into renting here. That's why this place has become a dorm dump.
And, if you check the NYU website, you will see us listed as a place for some NYU grad students to live. https://www.nyu.edu/students/student-information-and-resources/housing-and-dining/on-campus-living/residence-halls/grad-housing.html.
If you don't think that this listing on an NYU website clues in many, many other NYU students about living here, then you need to have your head examined.
They just put up that stupid sign in my elevator also. Ridiculous. Parents to reminded on how to supervise your child in an elevator? Come on Man! Students everywhere, and this looks like a Hotel being rented out to anyone. I hope this all blows up in their face. It is really horrible living here. I want out!
Those signs in the elevator look soo tacky. Everywhere you turn there is a sign to tell you what NOT to do around here. Betcha when they finish putting up those solar panels on ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS, they sell the joint again. Unreal...................
The Rent Stabilization laws are being blatantly violated by Management and nobody gives a shit. Where is Councilman Powers? The TA? Why is Blackstone being allowed to get away with this? Money talks and the law walks.
Unbelievable how the TA ignores resident complaints about heat. One poster is even recommending space heaters. Shameful that residents have to resort to that when some of them are paying 4 and 5 grand a month rent.
Unbelievable how the TA ignores resident complaints about heat. One poster is even recommending space heaters. Shameful that residents have to resort to that when some of them are paying 4 and 5 grand a month rent.
YAWN!!!!! You also posted that on the FB page. we hear you here, we here you there. Maybe you should post under your own name if you're not going to change your writing style.
Not quite sure why you posted this personal attack STR. This person launches personal attacks especially when you make a comment she doesn’t agree with . That is not what this blog is about.
There is obviously no real TA anymore. It is an arm of management. I don’t know how people can pay dues . You can see by their posts that they do not exist anymore.
"Show me some proof there are students. Actual college students. Have not seen one in so long they might as well be a unicorn at this point."
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Some people are willfully blind.
The only reason there may possibly be fewer students is the growing high-profit/low-risk cottage industry operating illegal PCVST hotels catering to, at any given time, hundreds of unidentified transients lodged for short stays in previously chopped up residential apartments converted into dorms.
"YAWN!!!!! You also posted that on the FB page. we hear you here, we here you there. Maybe you should post under your own name if you're not going to change your writing style."
Maybe you should learn to spell if you are going to post anywhere. Ya here?
>>Not quite sure why you posted this personal attack STR. This person launches personal attacks especially when you make a comment she doesn’t agree with . That is not what this blog is about.<<
You have to tell me which post, at least the time. Otherwise, I am lost.
proof is the 4 or 5 times a week we have to endure their bong parties, their beer parties and the bro HO crowd. are you fucking serious cuz the place is full and almost 75% students now. our floor alone is us and one other older woman. Every other unit are roommates.students.
In response to the poster who says that he never sees students, he or she must live in a vacuum or he is being facetious. This place is overrun with students and dorm apartments. My building is full of them.
Plenty of students in my building! It's crawling with them. I don't care because I like their generation and they are the future of this Trump-fucked planet, if it survives the Trump-fucking.
Sometimes the students are noisy, but they will quiet down if you ask them politely. I'm an original tenant in my 70s and I can tell you with all honesty that over the decades (yes, decades) we have had more than enough drunks, domestic violence situations and rotten, stinking, marauding, destructive kids, all of whom are probably now around my age or a tad younger. Sure it was a nice place to live and the grounds were much more bucolic than they are now, but it wasn't rented out to high class folk. Just regular middle class working folks and they could get very ugly at times. Especially on a Saturday night when they'd had a few drinks too many. We also had suicides, assaults and child abuse instances. The demo that is here today is not that bad. Not bad at all, in fact. Too bad they are paying through the nose and can't afford to stay here long. I would love it if they could just stay here and raise their families like we could.
We never had the noise problems years ago, because management (Met Life) would not put up with it. Wonder how much you would love the students if you had a dorm apartment below you for the last 8 years or so. First four years of noisy parties, then a couple of years of fruity smoke seeping up. As of late it has been quiet and odor free, but who knows how long that will last.
I would like to invite the person who said they want proof of students to come to my apartment on pretty much any Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night. I happen to know that these STUDENTS are NYU undergrads, because they told me! I also know that my building is sitting around 70% undergrad students, so do not tell me to prove to you that there are students.
Even our owners wouldn’t say something that stupid.
Just a reminder that the posting here is "anonymous." Yes, people can try to figure out the person posting by their "voice" and where they have posted the same message, but the poster can always deny or just not care. No one has to "out" themselves here.
"Not quite sure why you posted this personal attack STR. This person launches personal attacks especially when you make a comment she doesn’t agree with . That is not what this blog is about."
How do you know the "attacker" is a "she"? Could very well be a "he"!
Huge party in my building last nite until 2:30AM. Throngs of college kids raucously coming in and leaving. Loud music. You could be overcome with the marijuana fumes. So loud walls were pulsating. I called Public Safety as did a number of my neighbors, PS came twice, Things quieted down...for about ten minutes...then "let the music begin." Of course there are no college kids in Sty Town. I must be delusional. Thanks, Rick, Susan Steinberg and the worthless, impotent Tenants Association. Great job. You won't get 50 cents from me let alone $50 in dues.
Not to be all Perry Mason, but I think "yawn" and original poster are the same person. No one commented on her viewpoint so she argued against it and now it's gained traction. Same way the "unicorn" was meant to stir up the In My Day folks. And on cue, out of the woodwork they come. It's so scripted It's like readable soap opera. I look forward to the next installment of Days of Our Stuy.
Note; 440 east 23rd if anyone cares to know about dormification and loud partying all too often. Try another building or forget about this complex entirely.
hmmm...I think I might prefer students to what I'm dealing with, which is a shitty family..anyone want to switch apartments? I'm serious. do the students have parties once a week? I wouldn't mind if the noise was at a scheduled time every week. post here if youre interested. (I mean informally, I'm not talking about reassigning leases or anything)
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Clear the way for Oval Pool. Only a matter of time. Bank on it!
ReplyDeleteEach successive bunch of bastards since MetLife has destroyed more and more of the Oval. They call this place an Oasis. It used to be, but not now, so they should take the word out of their advertising shit. This is just another ugly-assed NYC Housing Project. They don't all belong to NYCHA.
ReplyDelete>>Clear the way for Oval Pool. Only a matter of time. Bank on it!<<
ReplyDeleteI was thinking of the same thing. What an "amenity"!
And if the tree fell on someone you'd then really have something to complain about.
ReplyDelete>>Clear the way for Oval Pool. Only a matter of time. Bank on it!<<
ReplyDeleteWhere would they have their shitty concerts and movie nights then?
No pool for the following reasons:
ReplyDeleteA pool would interfere with the Oval “Carnival Cruise” events like the movies and concerts. A pool would also interfere with the holiday special events. Also, there is the liability issue which would be major; the ice rink is enough of a liability issue for Blackstone/SPS. PS enforcement of the infamous “residents and their guests” rule would be problematic as well. As for this tree cutting, their paid for arborist company would say that the tree was old and diseased but this is par for the course for them to market the Oval to their preferred demo, flyover state transient single millennials. More sunbathing, more “special events”, etc.. Trees are for shade, wildlife (especially birds) and for introspective thoughts, not good for their current “Boca/Woo-Hoo/Focus Group” marketing strategy.
So you think the average tenant has a chance:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20180227/REAL_ESTATE/180229897/billionaire-investors-are-first-to-profit-from-midtown-east-rezoning
I don't think a pool would be in the Oval, but I bet it's been seriously talked about for someplace else but within this property.
ReplyDeleteSir, about that roadway around this property? Does Blackstone own it, or is it city property and under police jurisdiction? Sir, sir....
ReplyDeletehttps://nypost.com/2018/03/01/top-nypd-official-to-plead-guilty-in-corruption-probe/
"Trees are for shade, wildlife (especially birds) and for introspective thoughts, not good for their current “Boca/Woo-Hoo/Focus Group” marketing strategy."
ReplyDeleteYOU SAID IT!!!!! I WISH THESE ASSHOLES WOULD GO BACK TO BOCA AND STAY THERE!
I always thought playground 1 would have been the spot where the pool would go. Never got renovated, and it has a pool shape and is already dug down.
ReplyDeleteWould love a pool. Now that would be a real amenity but not practical here. The place is too big and populated.And I cannot imagine it would be pleasant with all of the dorm crowd and transients who would use it. Wish they would wipe out all of the other crap they call amenities here especially those concerts and Oval movies.
ReplyDeleteLarge Pool in the Summertime and a large Ice skating rink in the winter, Concerts in the Spring and Fall. All you need is a 'Retractable' and your all set. Totally awesome! Charge money, no brainer. Good bye beautiful Oval forever.
ReplyDeleteAs most "amenities," a pool will present various problems, but be good for marketing. So, it's a battle between reality and marketing. Which will win out?
ReplyDeleteProblems? Like there aren't multiple problems already? This place likes the more people the better. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT PROBLEMS. Just continue to run this place into the ground and make money. That's what it is all about. Have a nice weekend.
ReplyDeleteThe marketing for them IS realty.
ReplyDeleteDrownings are a much more serious liability than pretty much any of the other amenities liabilities, where an injury is really the top concern. I just don't see it happening for that reason - a story about a kid drowning in a Stuy Town pool would hit the media in a heartbeat, whereas a kid who breaks his leg ice skating wouldn't even hit this blog.
ReplyDelete"whereas a kid who breaks his leg ice skating wouldn't even hit this blog."
ReplyDeleteWhat's the betting? If I know about it, of course.
"Drownings are a much more serious liability than pretty much any of the other amenities liabilities"
ReplyDeletePCVST was NYC's safest residential community during the highest crime era (late 1960s - mid 1990's). No exaggeration. Look it up. It wasn't luck and it wasn't a fluke. During those exciting years this place truly was an 80-acre oasis. Right up until 2007 (Before Speyer) PCVST was world renowned for being the best place to live and raise a family in Manhattan, if not all of NYC. Residents looked forwarded to living here for multiple generations. There was a 7-10 year waiting list to get in. That historic PCVST community was worth the wait. Tens of thousands of intelligent, savvy NYC residents patiently waited to call PCVST their home. Just ask lifetime resident Dan Garodnick about all that.
Today this place is done. It's over. It's finished. It all ended when De Blasio, Garodnick and TA Boardmembers needlessly handed our homes over to Blackstone, which after Speyer should have been prevented from getting anywhere near this property. Instead, working and scheming for Blackstone, our lying conniving elected officials guaranteed in writing this historic community will soon become extinct. They killed it off for Blackstone.
Now during NYC's lowest crime era, it seems frequent violent assaults covered up by Blackstone are the most serious physical liability misinformed PCVST residents should worry about.
Why was the long time PCVST security chief suddenly forced into retirement?
To limit Blackstone's civil lawsuit liability stemming from a recent 10-minute violent assault and attempted rape infamously videotaped by PCVST's multi million dollar, high tech video security system. That brutal crime was not adequately responded to because obviously Blackstone didn't give a flying f#%k about PCVST resident safety.
Fuck Met Life. They'd sell their own for the right price.
ReplyDeleteNo way would a pool work here. Too many buildings and apartments. Even if there was a membership charge, it still would not be feasible in such a large development with overfilled apartments and many transients.
ReplyDeleteStupid article in T&V on laundry cart found on First Avenue. They need to tackle more serious issues such as lack of heat.
ReplyDeleteAfter being renovated and floors sanded down multiple times I truly think there is a paper thin layer between me and the upstairs tenant. Either the owners of this ghetto need to wall to wall these apartments or we are posting a full page large complaint on all social media and local papers.
ReplyDeleteThe city owns the streets around ST, including the street protected by the marginal island.
ReplyDeleteHoly fuck the parents of this idiotic 24/7 partiers could not afford a real dorm? L CAPITAL L LOSERS.
ReplyDeletePool?
ReplyDeleteNo chance. Liability insurance expense would be enormous.
After being renovated and floors sanded down multiple times I truly think there is a paper thin layer between me and the upstairs tenant. Either the owners of this ghetto need to wall to wall these apartments or we are posting a full page large complaint on all social media and local papers.
ReplyDeleteThe owners will NEVER wall-to-wall carpet apartments because wall-to-wall carpeting doesn't appeal to potential tenants and they desperately need these potential tenants to fill the thousands of empty apartments here. Ask any of the top, management people and, if they're being honest with you, they'll admit this.
However, if you haven't requested that management do a carpet inspection on the people living above you, you should. And you should stay on management until they do and until they make your upstairs neighbors 80% carpet their apartment, like the lease they signed requires them to do.
Unfortunately I have had to contact PS each September when new students move in above each of the past 3 years to perform a carpet inspection.
DeleteOne thing I’ve leaened - property services stated that tenants only need to carpet 80% of the exposed floors after furniture, beds, etc... not 80% of the flooring in apartment. This is a different spin on house rules - as they do not state this. Wish I knew this when I moved in, I Wouldn’t have spent so much money on pudding in carpenting.
Pardon the typo above - padding not pudding!
DeleteBasically, you have push and keep pushing. Whether it's by design to keep one frustrated or not, that is the unfortunate responsibility of everyone here. A lot of people just give up.
ReplyDeleteright outside of Playground 5, another lovely tree gone and all that remains is a really ugly stump.
ReplyDeleteAnd I was told, by someone who we know in Management, that the 80% rule is only true when ALL the space is counted. In other words, that one could have less than 80% in a room if another room has more. So, you could have a room that has, say, 40% carpeting, if another area or areas have more. This was said with the straight face and the person looking directly at me.
ReplyDelete"This was said with the straight face and the person looking directly at me."
ReplyDeleteSTR, you know these people are accomplished liars! They may not do anything else with any degree of excellence, but when it comes to lying they are accomplished to perfection. Utter perfection.
And I was told, by someone who we know in Management, that the 80% rule is only true when ALL the space is counted. In other words, that one could have less than 80% in a room if another room has more. So, you could have a room that has, say, 40% carpeting, if another area or areas have more. This was said with the straight face and the person looking directly at me.
ReplyDeleteThis is the kind of nonsense you spew when you want to spin the situation so you don’t have to make tenants do what it says in the lease they signed. And it’s total and complete BS. The 80% requirement has NEVER been interpreted this absurd way in the past and it shouldn't be now, either. Doing so would be a dishonest and deliberate attempt on Management's part to avoid their properly enforcing this regulation. It's a good thing that whoever said this to you, STR, didn't say it to me or he/she would have been very sorry, that's for sure. 80% of floors IN EACH ROOM/AREA, excluding the kitchen and bathroom, need to be covered. Here's the video of GM and CEO Rick Hayduk, himself, explaining exactly why 80% coverage is required: NOISE. Clearly, allowing a tenant to 100% carpet their bedroom so they can then carpet their living room only 40% would thwart the sole intention - the reduction of noise - of the 80% floor covering provision of leases.
https://www.stuytown.com/questions/why-is-80-carpet-coverage-required
Blackstone's Pigstuytown business strategy pushing middle class out of their homes into dorms is ahead of trend.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/04/technology/dorm-living-grown-ups-san-francisco.html
Dorm Living for Professionals Comes to San Francisco
By Nellie Bowles
March 4, 2018
SAN FRANCISCO
"In search of reasonable rent, the middle-class backbone of San Francisco — maitre d’s, teachers, bookstore managers, lounge musicians, copywriters and merchandise planners — are engaging in an unusual experiment in communal living: They are moving into dorms.
Shared bathrooms at the end of the hall and having no individual kitchen or living room is becoming less weird for some of the city’s workers thanks to Starcity, a new development company that is expressly creating dorms for many of the non-tech population..."
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Blackstone smears lipstick on Pigstuytown Dormitory/Hotel where living rooms, private baths and kitchens are replaced by skate rink and outdoor concert "lifestyle amenities"
Pigstuytown - Your future is already here.
student on our floor told us they have a 3 month stay and then they move out. Several schools now do this. In 3 months they leave and another comes in. It's a fucking hotel then. by the way, an apartment in our building has bedbugs. You would think the honest upstanding managers and landlord would notify adjoining tenants.
ReplyDeleteThat TA site puts out such crap. Today they posted something on dorm living for professionals on their site. How about some action on heat and noise issues. They ignore the problems we face here. Truly a waste and an arm of management. Glad I didn’t pay dues
ReplyDelete8:52 AM: which building are you in? Alarmed at the mention of bedbugs!
ReplyDeleteWHAT TA?
ReplyDeleteThe tree on the Oval was dead. We got a text message about it last week.
ReplyDeleteThe message said: Regrettably, a tree close to your building will be removed on Wednesday 2/28/18. It's a large pin oak located by the Public Restrooms at 18 Stuyvesant Oval on the Oval Lawn. Unfortunately, it is deceased and its condition is creating a hazard. Removal will take place between 9am and 4pm. Thank you.
6.47 PM. Thank you for your post, you are 100% correct, it’s 80% for EACH room excluding the kitchen and bathroom. That includes the apartment hallway as well.
ReplyDelete"student on our floor told us they have a 3 month stay and then they move out. Several schools now do this. In 3 months they leave and another comes in."
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Does the TA offer 3-month membership dues?
What do we get for joining?
>>The tree on the Oval was dead. We got a text message about it last week.<<
ReplyDeleteYeah, I know.
I always thought playground 1 would have been the spot where the pool would go. Never got renovated, and it has a pool shape and is already dug down.
ReplyDeleteTenants at playground 1 have already informed landlord that a pool or dog run would equal a class action lawsuit.
So you think the average tenant has a chance:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20180227/REAL_ESTATE/180229897/billionaire-investors-are-first-to-profit-from-midtown-east-rezoning
Thanks Dan Garodnick, you piece of hooey!
"And I was told, by someone who we know in Management, that the 80% rule is only true when ALL the space is counted. In other words, that one could have less than 80% in a room if another room has more. So, you could have a room that has, say, 40% carpeting, if another area or areas have more. This was said with the straight face and the person looking directly at me."
ReplyDeleteThis is not what Nicole veras rivera or Nicole rivera or whatever the fuck her name is said to me. she 80 percent of each room.
not that it matters. these a##holes are all lying through their teeth. they say whatever they need to say to work to their advantage. they are disgusting trash.
March 2, 2018 at 3:47 PM
ReplyDeletethis is all true. pls send this to the T&V anonymously if you like, as this represents a large percentage of tenants here and I'm sick of this sh!t being spun like everything is running smoothly.
as for carpet inspections, you can talk all you want about pushing and pushing--in the end, they will just tell you they did an inspection, and no inspection was done. you have zero recourse. please stop spewing these fucking bromides like "if at first you don't succeed..." that's nonsense. if they don't want to inspect, they wont inspect. if they want to lie about the results, they'll lie about the results.
rent S laws allow 3 month living?
ReplyDeleteEvery day I see more and more students(different faces) coming in and out of my building. Blackstone has a lot of nerve saying that they do not actively rent to any group. This is increasingly becoming more of a dorm dump.
ReplyDeleteMembership dues? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Talk about throwing your money away.
ReplyDelete>>The tree on the Oval was dead. We got a text message about it last week.<<
ReplyDelete>>Yeah, I know.<<
So the point of this post is...to what? Stir the s**t for no reason?
There are real issues out there, STR. Why are you reporting about Management taking down a dead tree? That's just good landscaping. I'm sure that they'll plant something in its place.
Prominent signs in elevators warning to keep children away from doors smell of a lawsuit.
ReplyDelete>>So the point of this post is...to what? Stir the s**t for no reason?<<
ReplyDeleteThe point is that I came across this while it was happening and I decided to take pictures. I decided others would like to see these photos, as we live here. You may have a problem with that, however.
You know (and it's been said before), Blogger is free, so you can easily start your own blog and show whatever photos you like.
Woman who handles the noise complaints is a nasty person and will repeatedly lie to tenants.
ReplyDeleteThe answer is obvious, dumpster pools, I mean what would be more fitting, each loop gets one! You get a pool, you get a pool, & you get a pool, & yes you get a pool!
ReplyDeleteEvery day I see more and more students(different faces) coming in and out of my building. Blackstone has a lot of nerve saying that they do not actively rent to any group. This is increasingly becoming more of a dorm dump.
ReplyDeleteBlackstone/Management don't have to actively promote living here to students. THE MANY SCHOOLS THAT STUDENTS ATTEND DO THE JOB FOR THEM by suggesting to their students that they look into renting here. That's why this place has become a dorm dump.
And, if you check the NYU website, you will see us listed as a place for some NYU grad students to live. https://www.nyu.edu/students/student-information-and-resources/housing-and-dining/on-campus-living/residence-halls/grad-housing.html.
If you don't think that this listing on an NYU website clues in many, many other NYU students about living here, then you need to have your head examined.
They just put up that stupid sign in my elevator also. Ridiculous. Parents to reminded on how to supervise your child in an elevator? Come on Man! Students everywhere, and this looks like a Hotel being rented out to anyone. I hope this all blows up in their face. It is really horrible living here. I want out!
ReplyDeleteThose signs in the elevator look soo tacky. Everywhere you turn there is a sign to tell you what NOT to do around here. Betcha when they finish putting up those solar panels on ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS, they sell the joint again. Unreal...................
ReplyDelete"rent S laws allow 3 month living?"
ReplyDeleteThe Rent Stabilization laws are being blatantly violated by Management and nobody gives a shit. Where is Councilman Powers? The TA? Why is Blackstone being allowed to get away with this? Money talks and the law walks.
Unbelievable how the TA ignores resident complaints about heat. One poster is even recommending space heaters. Shameful that residents have to resort to that when some of them are paying 4 and 5 grand a month rent.
ReplyDelete>>One poster is even recommending space heaters.<<
ReplyDeleteYou gotta do what you can to stay warm!
"Everywhere you turn there is a sign to tell you what NOT to do around here."
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Blackstone tells you what the rules are. That's all.
Blackstone does not believe in rules.
Blackstone never follows rules.
Blackstone knows Rules Are For Suckers.
That's why Blackstone is Blackstone.
How else to explain Blackstone owning PCVST?
How else to explain Just Call Rick?
Ask Dan Garodnick about all that. He knows.
Why should we care about heat when no one cares about those tenants who are overpaying? WHO CARES ABOUT THE OVERCHARGES???????????????????
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable how the TA ignores resident complaints about heat. One poster is even recommending space heaters. Shameful that residents have to resort to that when some of them are paying 4 and 5 grand a month rent.
ReplyDeleteYAWN!!!!! You also posted that on the FB page. we hear you here, we here you there. Maybe you should post under your own name if you're not going to change your writing style.
Management troll is at it again
DeleteNot quite sure why you posted this personal attack STR. This person launches personal attacks especially when you make a comment she doesn’t agree with . That is not what this blog is about.
DeleteShow me some proof there are students. Actual college students. Have not seen one in so long they might as well be a unicorn at this point.
ReplyDeleteThere is obviously no real TA anymore. It is an arm of management. I don’t know how people can pay dues . You can see by their posts that they do not exist anymore.
ReplyDeletewho is the troll who says there are no college students living here. that an april fools joke?
ReplyDelete"Show me some proof there are students. Actual college students. Have not seen one in so long they might as well be a unicorn at this point."
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Some people are willfully blind.
The only reason there may possibly be fewer students is the growing high-profit/low-risk cottage industry operating illegal PCVST hotels catering to, at any given time, hundreds of unidentified transients lodged for short stays in previously chopped up residential apartments converted into dorms.
There are many students as well as tourists and transients in the chopped up dorm apartments. My building is full of both.
Delete"YAWN!!!!! You also posted that on the FB page. we hear you here, we here you there. Maybe you should post under your own name if you're not going to change your writing style."
ReplyDeleteMaybe you should learn to spell if you are going to post anywhere. Ya here?
>>Not quite sure why you posted this personal attack STR. This person launches personal attacks especially when you make a comment she doesn’t agree with . That is not what this blog is about.<<
ReplyDeleteYou have to tell me which post, at least the time. Otherwise, I am lost.
The post that begins “yawn, yawn” in response to March 7 at 6:35
Deleteproof is the 4 or 5 times a week we have to endure their bong parties, their beer parties and the bro HO crowd. are you fucking serious cuz the place is full and almost 75% students now. our floor alone is us and one other older woman. Every other unit are roommates.students.
ReplyDelete"Show me some proof there are students. Actual college students. Have not seen one in so long they might as well be a unicorn at this point."
ReplyDeleteHey clueless, just check out the NYU bus when it make its rounds.
BTW you are busted:
"Transportation Service to/from Stuyvesant Town Mon-Thurs During the Morning Period."
https://www.nyu.edu/life/travel-and-transportation/university-transportation/routes-and-schedules/route-c.html
In response to the poster who says that he never sees students, he or she must live in a vacuum or he is being facetious. This place is overrun with students and dorm apartments. My building is full of them.
ReplyDeletePlenty of students in my building! It's crawling with them. I don't care because I like their generation and they are the future of this Trump-fucked planet, if it survives the Trump-fucking.
ReplyDeleteSometimes the students are noisy, but they will quiet down if you ask them politely. I'm an original tenant in my 70s and I can tell you with all honesty that over the decades (yes, decades) we have had more than enough drunks, domestic violence situations and rotten, stinking, marauding, destructive kids, all of whom are probably now around my age or a tad younger. Sure it was a nice place to live and the grounds were much more bucolic than they are now, but it wasn't rented out to high class folk. Just regular middle class working folks and they could get very ugly at times. Especially on a Saturday night when they'd had a few drinks too many. We also had suicides, assaults and child abuse instances. The demo that is here today is not that bad. Not bad at all, in fact. Too bad they are paying through the nose and can't afford to stay here long. I would love it if they could just stay here and raise their families like we could.
We never had the noise problems years ago, because management (Met Life) would not put up with it. Wonder how much you would love the students if you had a dorm apartment below you for the last 8 years or so. First four years of noisy parties, then a couple of years of fruity smoke seeping up. As of late it has been quiet and odor free, but who knows how long that will last.
Delete>>The post that begins “yawn, yawn” in response to March 7 at 6:35<<
ReplyDeleteI don't know if that qualifies as a person attack. A name wasn't even used.
I would like to invite the person who said they want proof of students to come to my apartment on pretty much any Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday night. I happen to know that these STUDENTS are NYU undergrads, because they told me! I also know that my building is sitting around 70% undergrad students, so do not tell me to prove to you that there are students.
ReplyDeleteEven our owners wouldn’t say something that stupid.
March 7, 2018 at 6:36 PM
ReplyDeleteGood try! We are not biting!
Seems like there is a troublemaker here. Nice try.
ReplyDeleteJust a reminder that the posting here is "anonymous." Yes, people can try to figure out the person posting by their "voice" and where they have posted the same message, but the poster can always deny or just not care. No one has to "out" themselves here.
ReplyDelete"Not quite sure why you posted this personal attack STR. This person launches personal attacks especially when you make a comment she doesn’t agree with . That is not what this blog is about."
ReplyDeleteHow do you know the "attacker" is a "she"? Could very well be a "he"!
Or it could be a "they," a whole squad!
ReplyDeleteIt's the owners posting the lie.
ReplyDeleteHuge party in my building last nite until 2:30AM.
ReplyDeleteThrongs of college kids raucously coming in and leaving.
Loud music.
You could be overcome with the marijuana fumes.
So loud walls were pulsating.
I called Public Safety as did a number of my neighbors,
PS came twice, Things quieted down...for about ten minutes...then "let the music begin."
Of course there are no college kids in Sty Town. I must be delusional.
Thanks, Rick, Susan Steinberg and the worthless, impotent Tenants Association.
Great job.
You won't get 50 cents from me let alone $50 in dues.
Not to be all Perry Mason, but I think "yawn" and original poster are the same person. No one commented on her viewpoint so she argued against it and now it's gained traction. Same way the "unicorn" was meant to stir up the In My Day folks. And on cue, out of the woodwork they come. It's so scripted It's like readable soap opera. I look forward to the next installment of Days of Our Stuy.
ReplyDeleteNote; 440 east 23rd if anyone cares to know about dormification and loud partying all too often. Try another building or forget about this complex entirely.
ReplyDeletehmmm...I think I might prefer students to what I'm dealing with, which is a shitty family..anyone want to switch apartments? I'm serious. do the students have parties once a week? I wouldn't mind if the noise was at a scheduled time every week. post here if youre interested. (I mean informally, I'm not talking about reassigning leases or anything)
ReplyDeletedefine shitty family ince we got a lot of shitty students. We are the last survivors on our floor that are a family. all students and roomies
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