This fine morning I see several spots of dog crap near the PS guard
booth, and bicycles freely going about the Oval. Not one of the staff--PS
or workers--see this? Or they just don't care as long as the residents
remain quiet? Speaking of PS (Public Safety), where is it?
Blackstone,
and I include its representatives, you are showing that you do not care
as long as the money keeps growing. You should be embarrassed to run
this place if you can't handle it, which it seems you can't, despite all
the rules.
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Sheer and utter incompetence. Rick Hayduck should hang his head in shame!
They can
Glen and de Blasio turned this private middle class property into public assistance housing. The rules are different. They erased the middle class and turned the entire renting community into "City Assistance" NYCHA.
We have no rights. We are now in a forced assisted living as if we are poor and not the once thriving middle class. Without telling us the Tenant Association, Blackstone and Ivanhoe Cambridge have us all living in "Assisted Living" when just a few years ago we were independently thriving middle class.
When will the Tenant Association fill us in on the Assisted Living status, the restrictions, the rules, and the rights we have lost, the tax benefits to the owners and how can an Assisted Living property be marketed as luxury living?
On 2015-12-18 a mortgage on this property was transferred from New York City Housing Deveopment Corporation to Housing Assistance Corporation.
https://www.realdirect.com/e/7.STUYVESANT-OVAL.10009/
https://a836-acris.nyc.gov/DS/DocumentSearch/DocumentDetail?doc_id=2015122100442015
https://a836-acris.nyc.gov/DS/DocumentSearch/DocumentImageView?doc_id=2015122100442015
They're just too busy laughing at us tenants.
The ignorance of internal rules extends to where the pavement forms an oval. Children acting aggressively all day Saturday 1/28...wrestling on ice unchecked by any attendant or parents.
I kinda wish we were public assistance. What public assistance?
While the talk is of "affordability," as I look around, it certainly is not affordable any longer, unless you have been here a long time and will not die. Once you are dead, you are gone according to Blackstone, and your apartment will be upgraded and cost double, if not more.
http://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/736-15/mayor-local-elected-officials-tenant-leaders-20-year-agreement-blackstone-and#/0
NYCHA gives the "public assistance" to Blackstone Ivanhoe Cambridge. Not the residents. Public Housing landlords have a cash cow in city assistance.
I do believe that there is public assistance housing here now. The city pays Blackstone the market rated that it wants to house people. The apartment next door to me has no name on door, gets no packages, and the name on the downstairs board is different. In addition, there are different people that stay there at night who appear to belong to a ministry. They can deny this all the want, but this is turning into a project/dorm.
I don't know about "public assistance" tenants. All I know is that there are some fucking dorm apartments close (too close) to me and I am sick of the noise, the stench of pot and revolving doors that constitute the dorm apartments.
The TA is a great big NOTHING. It exists only to back up management and to extract money from us.
As far as the "house rules" go, fuck 'em. When they start enforcing the house rules and the speeding bicycle rules, I will start to believe that we actually have a management in place.
If there is PA housing, can we get some? What about the overcharges?
My problem has never been "public assistance" tenants, so I would really have to investigate and spend time I don't have freely. My problems are the ones I mention. This place does have its good points, but I can bet you that if I go outside now, I will see violations of the "rules." Chances are good that PS won't be around, though sometimes they are.
And Blackstone, the owners of this property, doesn't seem to really care to get up off their you-know-what and enforce their own rules. This is not just crazy STR talking. This is the experience of most tenants here.
BTW, the dog crap that was near the guard house still was not dealt with yesterday evening. I could call as I called the other day about another dog crap, but shouldn't Stuy Town's own PS department and workers call this in???
tenants do not want increases in rent. if you add another 25 guys to police the dogs and crap, you have to pay for it.
STR, be thankful that your only interaction with dog poop is when you are walking around the Oval.
There is a two-legged animal who lives in my building who lets his dog defecate in the stairwell and elevator.
Nothing like the smell of urine in the elevator or a freshly laid pile of sh*t in the stairwell.
Surely brightens my day!
The porter told me on the QT that he was instructed to just clean it up and say nothing.
Management does not want anything to rock the boat in this cash cow.
Since before the Christmas season they have had Public Safety spending most of their time delivering these packages that shippers leave in the lobbies. An officer I spoke with doing this said " It's pretty silly removing these from camera sight, but at the same time it's safer in neither location."
I don't get why they have these guys even touching packages... they aren't federal or government officials. Wasn't it illegal to touch these unless you are authorized to deliver them? These guys are now spending their time delivering packages instead of stopping the dogs and bikes flying around. They should just leave them in front of the cameras so we at least have some video evidence of who takes the packages... If they sit in front of the apt doors we have no visuals at all :(
It does seem like the City Hall and the City Council sneakily put StuyTown in NYCHA without telling tenant residents about it. NYCHA is contrary to marketing the property as luxury, or better put it is dishonest and deceitful to all the residents living here and leaseholders investing here.
I almost got knocked down by a speeding bicycle last night on the sidewalk of the 14th Street loop. These fucking delivery guys are death on wheels.
So so so funny. Did you really think Blackstone meant what they said, honest guys there? You're joking right? LOLLLLLLLL
>>tenants do not want increases in rent. if you add another 25 guys to police the dogs and crap, you have to pay for it.<<
It comes with the territory. LOL. The tenants don't have to pay "extra" to have a job done the way it is supposed to be done. You are joking, right?
I totally agree with 2:15. It does appear that the Sty is in HYCHA. How can they market this property as luxury housing. It is indeed deceitful. I know that the ministry next door to me is being subsidized by someone, perhaps the city.
"There is a two-legged animal who lives in my building who lets his dog defecate in the stairwell and elevator.
Nothing like the smell of urine in the elevator or a freshly laid pile of sh*t in the stairwell.
Surely brightens my day!
The porter told me on the QT that he was instructed to just clean it up and say nothing.
Management does not want anything to rock the boat in this cash cow."
That is disgusting! Please put this on Yelp. This "management" is about as low as can be. Next time you are aware of what your disgusting neighbor is doing, please take a photograph and contact the Dept. of Health. Knowing that "management" is capable of such behavior makes me wonder what else they are getting away with. Nobody should EVER eat at the 5Stuy Cafe now we know how filthy and uncaring of basic hygiene "management" is.
"So so so funny. Did you really think Blackstone meant what they said, honest guys there? You're joking right? LOLLLLLLLL"
Blackstone is about as honest and ethical as our new President. Probably a hell of a lot more sane, though.
who hires for the oval fitness gym? they are such nasty employees there.
Blackstone and new prez are BFFS.
post the building of the dog who pees in the stairwell. If you don't, we dont believe you and neither will the management who read this blog.
Ivanhoe Cambridge is ignoring the rules too
https://therealdeal.com/2015/10/21/for-ivanhoe-cambridge-stuy-town-deal-was-years-in-the-making/
For Ivanhoe, Stuy Town deal was years in the making
De Blasio housing czar personally tells developers to house homeless in affordable units
Pressure comes as city grapples with a record homeless population
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20161027/REAL_ESTATE/161029869/mayor-bill-de-blasio-housing-commissioner-vicki-been-calls-developers-to-tell-them-to-house-homeless
How much is the city paying Blackstone? In how many units? to house homeless so the Mayor can get the numbers down during his reelection year but not solve the problem of homelessness. Sure Blackstone ignores the rules and City Hall let's Blackstone ignore the rules and our families are not safe. City Hall does not disclose which units are housing homeless and how much City Hall is subsidizing Blackstone to house homeless in the 5000 affordable units --- allegedly --- this violates the deal and contradicts the press releases on the deal that got us here.
Homeless Housing requires different policing than dorm campus security for students.
How under-trained are the dorm campus officers to deal with the crimes that happen in NYCHA housing of homeless?
Just exactly how unsafe are we here?
Dog shit is the least of our worries.
Blackstone is as incompetent, honest and ethical as the prior President's administration. Probably a hell of a lot more sane, though.
Notify the rest of us which building you complain on.
We are starting (again) to get side commentary on this or the past national administration. While some commentary may be applicable, I remind people that this blog is about THIS complex. The rules of this place are set forth by the owners of this property, and by extension, the political and financial powers that run New York.
Maybe if Stuy town employee spending the afternoon clearing snow from the ice rink spent half the amount of same time clearing dog mess from pavement then residents other than the ten screaming kids that use the rink daily could enjoy the entire property.
I also agree the dogs are a problem, but we have way worse problems here. And lets bet honest, the dog thing is way out, can't be stopped and do you really expect the fake security to do this? come on now.
Just wondering why Stuy Town equipment such as plow performs service for the rink? Could the manpower of Stuy town not be more efficiently spent clearing dog mess so residents can walk around without suffering disaster to their shoes? Why is clearing ice a priority but clearing pavement of bacteria laden dog feces not?
Ice rink is a private company in itself.
Isn't the ice rink a commercial enterprise? If so, then nobody in Blackstone's payroll for the property should be working on cleaning and maintaining it. None of the commercial enterprises here should be paid out of our rent income. The employees of the property should be used exclusively for cleaning and maintaining the buildings and areas of the property that are for tenants. How the hell did they ever get away with putting commercial enterprises on a property zoned as residential? Why didn't the Tenants Association raise a stink about this.
5 39pm and the oval fitness, and the oval study,, all paid for by tenants.
Why didn't the Tenants Association raise a stink about this?
LOL...Good one!
Election for new Mayor is coming up. Important ST PCV issues at stake.
"From apartments approaching the end of their subsidy"
http://www.gothamgazette.com/city/6495-city-housing-commissioner-to-return-to-teaching-remain-in-government-role
Their plan has always been to end Rent Stabilization Middle Class Housing. The "end of the subsidy" is why Albany bus rides achieve disastrous results for tenants. The City Hall deal here is to drive rent stabilization residents out for condo pied a terre buyer developments after the Mayor gets his re-election from housing homeless to make it look like the numbers have gone down.
Just something to think about the next time you are asked to waste your time, put on a t-shirt and get on a bus or he campaigns here with his lobbyist buddies. The woman with the sign asking for the real de Blasio to please stand up as he hugs the lobbyist in StuyTown is the best campaign photo ever captured. The second best photo has to be one below with the suitcase toting traveler going from the direction of the StuyTown Welcome Center to the direction of the Stuytown entrance at 16th street.
Here is the article where the Mayor says he is dumping his long time lobbyist friend:
De Blasio dumps lobbyist and friend who pushed City Hall to back big-money projects now under investigation
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/de-blasio-dumps-lobbyist-center-pay-to-plan-probes-article-1.2772085
Here are the photos of the lobbyist hugs during the campaign promises:
de Blasio ‘embraces’ lobbyist for Rudin condos at St. Vincent’s site
http://thevillager.com/2013/09/09/de-blasio-embraces-lobbyist-for-rudin-condos-at-st-vincents-site/
Which one will show up begging for re-election votes, the RE developer lobbyist hugger or the tenant advocate? We want to stand with the woman with the sign asking for the real de Blasio to stand up if she is still here!!!!
I inquire how and why blackstone lies to tenants. Our upstairs neighbors have zero rugs. We know this as it is clear as a bell and PS confirms. Yet management inspects and claims (hahahahahahahha) they have carpets. Odd? Insulting? Illegal? What is this behavior from a landlord? We have lived here one year.
Just an example of how deceptive Blackstone is. After I reported to the management office that the name on the directory does not represent the people in the apartment next to me, the changed the names. I am certain that the original name was paying the rent and it was possibly city. They are trying to keep their creative apartment filling a secret. Disgusting!
Every time tenants complain about the uncleanliness Blackstone laughs their way to the bank and gets closer to city permission for demolition.
A while back I saw two bicycles streaming about the Oval. The PS guard in the booth (yes!) took no notice. Fail. But not a surprise. They (Blackstone and Company) don't really care.
“What the f–k, Chuck?!” — to protest his lukewarm stance on President Trump’s cabinet picks.
Everyone is beginning to see what Peter Cooper Village Stuyvesant Town saw these past years when he gave the Fannie Freddie money to Blackstone instead of the people living here. That these politicians currently in office stopped working for the people. Thousands are outside his house now protesting.
Thousands of protesters gather outside Chuck Schumer’s apartment
“Senator Schumer needs to know we’re watching him,” fumed Brad Wolchansky, a 40-year-old soccer coach from Flatbush who was carrying a cardboard cut-out of a giant eye on Tuesday night.
“He works for us. We need him to be bold. We need him to stand up to Trump and oppose his picks,” Wolchansky said.
http://nypost.com/2017/01/31/thousands-of-protesters-gather-outside-chuck-schumers-apartment/
Such a shame that the lottery apartments are not being monitored. Of course that is what we have a TA for, but ours does nothing. In another couple of years this sty will be all dorms and subsidized housing. Families and couples are not going to pay the exorbitant rents to live here. My building is already full of students, transients and now the subsidized housing. Bedbugs rejoice, you will have a good home in this sty.
I think it is quite difficult for PS to actually stop these speeding bicycles.unless they throw themselves in front of them.
When I was walking home last night the Sty was full of students walking around as if they owned the place. In a sense they do own it.
It's not like the PS guy will run after any of the bikers. We could work on the ANNOYING FUCKING GOLF CARTS SINCE WE OWN THEM. THEY WILL KILL YOU
>>“What the f–k, Chuck?!” — to protest his lukewarm stance on President Trump’s cabinet picks.<<
Borderline. I can see you are aching to discuss national politics, but there are many places you can go to--not here, which is mainly for local Stuy Town/PCV news.
>>It's not like the PS guy will run after any of the bikers.<<
He can say something. Other have done so, and a few cyclists have managed to stop and get off their bicycles.
Management can either hire more PS guards (and more work), or they can just give up and take down those rules, which are frequently ignored.
Right now, the "rules" are laughed at by a sizable population of this complex. Does Blackstone want this? Because that is what is happening.
If we are NYCHA then a city audit is needed for the amount we paid for our kitchen light bulbs.
February 1, 2017 at 9:37 AM reading the mortgage links a commenter provided looks like the mortgage from Housing Preservation to Housing Authority is the amount of the Fannie Freddie that Schumer promised to tenants at our rally at City Hall Summer 2014 but instead gave the money to NYCHA anfd in 2014 the property was sold for $3billion in the CW Summer 2014 hand-off to itself. The extra $2billion, to reach the huge property value increase between 2014 and 2015 when it sold to Blackstone is the money Schumer handed over and not to residents. Schumer, the guy we stood behind on the steps at City Hall in 2014, is a local politician when it comes to Stuyvesant Town.
The "rules" are posted and emphasized just to placate the older rent stabilized tenants, some of who unfortunately think that Blackstone and Rick are saviors. They are designed to cover the fact that the demo they are renting to is crap. Obviously they do not care about anything aside from making money.
I don't have to buy weed anymore...I'm kidding.
All I do is go into the hall and breath deeply.
The smell of marijuana is overwhelming.
It is really something, isn't it?
The blaring of music, the loud, raucous noise, the clopping around in high heels at all hours of the night...
ENOUGH ALREADY!
Attention: Blackstone, this ISN'T a dorm!
Hey, the Tenants Association must be on the case...NOT!
What a bunch of self-promoting LOSERS!
Why can't they just put in speed bumps or slight barriers. I mean this is the most ridiculous place I have ever lived. Easy fix yet refusal to help.
they want students, it's a much easier sell, they rarely complain and they move in and out. remember peeps, the biz plan here is to get em in, get em out.
students are now more than 60% of population here.
Hmmmm the rule here is 40 or 45 X rent for rental approval. With the lowest price units here at 3,000 that's a fairly large salary.
Yet most can't afford carpets? Cmmmmmm
Our building is 410 on 20th near Hane. I have never seen so many tenants now under age 25 living here and it is getting really strange to say the least. It is a weekly move out move in parade.
Not an "easy fix", 12:38. Besides the bicycles, we also have (management owned) golf carts, box trucks and RAV4's driving all over the pathways.
If they put up barriers on the walkways, how are all those motor vehicles supposed to get through?
I agree that the Sty is about 60% students now and possibly 10% public assistance and transient. It is basically a project, what a joke that they still tout it as luxury housing. The people going into the 3,000 plus apartments are not regular folks.They are students, transients, and public assistance. They do not care about carpeting(students) or cannot afford it if the city is paying their rent. Once again, these apartments are not being filled by families and couples that are paying the rent.
I have no idea what is meant by "public assistance".... Everything else, I know and see. But "public assistance".... Unless it is that small portion of tenants who are in a pool of low income, in which case I would want to know what low income we are talking about. I will investigate this, but I need more facts.
Public assistance is getting help from the city to pay the rent. I am absolutely certain that the people next door to me are not paying the 3500 rent which after all of the turnovers, the apartment must go for. As I have stated before on this blog, there was a name on the directory downstairs which was not theirs, there is no name on the door and they get no packages. When I complained to management about a probable infestation being cleaned out by a cleaning crew, flea market goods being brought in and boarders now and then , management changed the name on the directory. We can investigate all we want but they are not going to give us the truth as to how they are filling these apartments. As many of our seniors struggle to pay even their rent stabilized costs, these dealings by Blackstone are unsavory and deceptive.
Re: Public assistance - Let's stop speculating. I do not believe we have public assistance living here. Can't be sure but we should not start rumors . Unless we have facts regarding public assistance, let's refrain from posting misinformation. Management does not want this to become a project. This is their investment. We may have affordable housing ( and I am not sure about that ) but not PA. Affordable housing was a deal with NYC, but there are ways around that too. We have a number of SCRIE tenants here. Couldn't management count them as part of affordable housing ?? I would think there are families living here who, for whatever reason, can't pay these exorbident rents- they could be part of affordable housing. Management can play games , as can the City. Bottom line- this is management's investment. They must show a profit.
Er, I pay much more than 3,000 and I am neither of these. Trying to live here in peace with kids is all, moving out in June. Gonna make BS real happy to have you and all the students.
7 36 they do not need to GET THROUGH. This place ha been here for decades without.
This place is a joke!
It is true that we cannot prove that we have public assistance housing here, but it is a distinct possibility. If management did not want to make this a dorm/transient dump which resembles a project, they would stop increasing market rents so steeply and driving families and professionals out. As more and more market rate people get priced out and rent stabilized tenants pass away, it will become ever more difficult to fill these apartments. They will have to link up with the city to pay rents as they link up with universities to attract college students. They don't care what this place looks like as long as they are collecting the moolah. Take a look around 1:09, take a look at the demo and the grounds. It is resembling a project more and more.
Hey, Ma! I'm cold and the pipes are cold!
I'M THINKING OF MOVING MYSELF. I'VED HERE FOR MORE THAN 22 PLUS YEARS, AND I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.
10:53 which building are you referring to?
Bedbugs ; if there are bedbugs in these buildings (not) why haven't the tenants posted any on the bedbug registry site?
Welcome to the sty, home of the butt nugget.
overcharges? where do we send for complaint?
"overcharges? where do we send for complaint?"
"Tenant's Complaint of Rent and/or Other Specific Overcharges in Rent Stabilized Apartments
Rent Overcharge Application - Information"
http://www.nyshcr.org/Forms/Rent/ra89.pdf
BTW, you are going to have to lawyer up. Big time.
A quick count of the furnished apartments versus the unfurnished apartments gives a good idea of the number of transient versus permanent residents. Permanent residents have keepsakes while transients have the furnished apartments. Security Officers tell us there are more furnished apartments than unfurnished apartments. That tells us who the preferred renters are and it is not permanent residents.
there is not one apartment on our floor now that is older units, all are renovated and all are paying lots of mulla to be here.
Going to get another MCI next month. Wait for it! whoopeee
"furnished apartments"
You mean renovated (classic, modern, platinum, any flex apartment, etc.) versus un-renovated (old school RS apartments-they have no built in microwave, dishwasher, CA style closet lighting, etc.) apartments. There are only a small number of furnished apartments here. Those are the graduate level (rumor has it that there are New School and Parsons leased apartments as well) NYU apartments that are leased directly through NYU. The vast majority of dorm style apartments (and they can be a mix of tenants/occupants who are students, grad and undergrad and the just post college crowd) are leased directly to the tenant with their parents guaranteeing the lease.
http://www.youvisit.com/tour/67357/85443
Sigh. There are endless Craiglist PCVST roommate ads for apartments that are not even close to 80% carpet compliance.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sub/5986604868.html
Came into my apartment tonight and immediately smelled the stinky skunk pot that they smoke downstairs. By the time I call PS and they come the odor will be gone. This is what we have to deal with day in and day out.
I don't think that there is a bedbug registry on the TA site anymore. I imagine that Blackstone had them take it off. With all the transient crap living here now, the bedbug problem must be exploding.
I was told there is a registry for bedbugs that is aside from the TA. Also, does one have to be a member of the TA to get help? Seems unfair and illegal if so.
The TA does not offer much help even to members. I did not renew my membership this year. When I e-mailed them concerning an issue they referred me to management. They have allowed this community to become a transient/dorm dump and now are one with management. You might just as well seek help from management because the TA does nothing anymore.
Pot, cigarettes, it's all toxic. Peace out people , we're moving to 109th. cheaper, nicer, larger.
@ 6:28 AM: http://bedbugregistry.com/metro/nyc/
>>The TA does not offer much help even to members. I did not renew my membership this year. When I e-mailed them concerning an issue they referred me to management. They have allowed this community to become a transient/dorm dump and now are one with management. You might just as well seek help from management because the TA does nothing anymore.<<
I think they lost, maybe permanently, their bearing once condos were off the table and they decided earlier than that to pal up with Garodnick. What is their reason for being now? The message board which is worthy only when someone is bitching and maybe MCIs, though that is to be determined.
They have not won an MCI challenge in the past 8 years. Before that does anyone know know if they ever won an MCI challenge?
"The TA does not offer much help even to members. I did not renew my membership this year. When I e-mailed them concerning an issue they referred me to management. They have allowed this community to become a transient/dorm dump and now are one with management. You might just as well seek help from management because the TA does nothing anymore."
Agreed. It behooves every resident living in this sty with a moral compass to NOT pay their dues. Obviously, things continue to get worse here but the TA is actually part of the problem. I also agree with STR. The condo debacle REALLY made them all look like a bunch of horses asses.
I have noticed that the Town and Village newspaper has stopped printing articles and editorial letters critical of management. Does Blackstone own them too as it does our TA?
"The TA does not offer much help even to members. I did not renew my membership this year. When I e-mailed them concerning an issue they referred me to management. They have allowed this community to become a transient/dorm dump and now are one with management. You might just as well seek help from management because the TA does nothing anymore."
Totally true, unfortunately. I really don't know why the TA still calls itself a Tenants Association because it really is nothing more than an arm of management. It has no business calling itself a Tenants Association anymore. Maybe a little transparency would help give them some credibility, but it is such a closed shop that we can only ponder the reason for its existence. That wasn't always the case, but they changed radically around the time of the TS takeover, which was also the time Daniel Garodnick came on the scene. Coincidence?
"Pot, cigarettes, it's all toxic. Peace out people , we're moving to 109th. cheaper, nicer, larger."
I hear ya, except I like being downtown. I agree though that this place is an open sewer and if you can get comparable living conditions up there then it's the right move.
yes it seemed to us that there were hundreds of MR family tenants who wanted to buy, had to buy as they can't keep paying mr rent. Many have moved away now.
I urge all TA members NOT to renew.
As Stuy Town reporter said in his 1:14PM posting on February 3rd, "The TA does not offer much help even to members".
I respectfully would add: They do not offer ANY help.
Similarly, when I contacted the TA concerning an issue, they also referred me to management.
Duh, I need them for that??
Indeed the TA is in bed with management, Blackstone, Danny Boy Garodnick and the real estate pols.
I think I'll save the $50 dues renewal and buy some pot instead.
Wait, I don't have to do that! All I have to do is go in the hall or stairwell and breathe deeply...lol
The hell with Blackstone's "rules." They don't enforce them, so we don't need to obey them.
Does anyone know why new residents have a different maintenance department from original residents? What is the difference? Are new tenants charged more for maintenance for the same services and window shades because our apartments are luxury or newer or are new tenants maintenance getting better and faster service than original residents who have to call another department? New Tenants Maintenance is 212 420 4949 but original residents maintenance is 212 420 5000 which is the one we are supposed to use on weekends like today and nights only. The two maintenance departments looks like an unfair and discrimination maintenance service if luxury apartments pay more for items but get faster service. If given a choice, paying less for the same items is definitely preferred over faster service. Shouldn't we all be paying the same for maintenance items, using the same maintenance department, out of the same maintenance budget, and getting the same level of maintenance service?
The TA is only still around because it has a few old timers that don't know any better than to stay on as members because of the TA scare tactics. As the property quickly becomes young professionals with no time and students that don't care, the TA will soon become completely obsolete.
I essentially agree with the sentiments shared regarding the TA. I wouldn't have (necessarily) had they exhibited a modicum of honesty after the Blackstone deal. However, the sleaziness in the way they, and little Dan, heralded the deal as a victory for working class people along with the mayor on the first avenue loop that day just really showed me what they are all about. I'll keep my $50 in my pocket thank you very much.
downtown is great, if you're under age 25. older and you need to get over it and move out of the dorm.
>>Does anyone know why new residents have a different maintenance department from original residents? What is the difference?<<
This is news to me. I don't have to call only on the weekends. The only thing I can say is that the second number is a weekend number, no matter who you are.
https://town-village.com/2017/02/03/man-charged-with-robbing-and-choking-stuy-town-woman/
I shake my head in bewilderment.
"A Stuyvesant Town woman was attacked inside her apartment by a man she met on the street earlier that night at the end of last month.
"Police said that the 52-year-old victim met three men in the neighborhood on the night of January 22 and invited them back to her apartment at 5 Stuyvesant Oval around 12:45 a.m...."
You read the rest. I'm still shaking my head.
I also lost respect for the TA after they heralded the Blackstone deal. That meeting with DeBlasio and all of the politicians was sickening. They let Blackstone turn this community into a dump. And they are still promoting management as being great. I did not renew my membership and I refuse to attend another phony meeting featuring the political crew lauding this management. I still remember Blackstone asking for our feedback and promising changes in addition to saying that they would not actively rent to students. All deception. at least Tishman Speyer was rotten on the level. Blackstone is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Five stuy oval is the place i want to party. Lots of yo babes there!
as a new tenant i am angry i pay more than some for same.
Blackstone appears to be planting several phony positive reviews raving about the Sty on Yelp. There were three or four from the last couple of months that were very similar.
Is it legal that they charge monthly for an a.c. when we don't need it 12 months?
3:09PM. That happens in buildings all across the City. The apartments occupied for longer periods are cheaper than the ones newly churned. Not any different in The Sty.
5:20 PM. It is an annual charge broken down to 12 monthly installments.
Let's take a building vote posting online review management puts rugs down offers concessions to tenants who do.
I have to say that I am more than tired about the refrain to "alert" management to do whatever. What are the porters there for? Nothing?
Again and again, the onus becomes the tenant, never Management or its workers. Always the tenant. Basically, the tenant is at fault if he/she doesn't "alert" Management.
>>as a new tenant i am angry i pay more than some for same.<<
The rentals are all over the place. No one apartment is the same, rent-wise.
"Is it legal that they charge monthly for an a.c. when we don't need it 12 months?"
Yes. Since currently all PCVST apartments are covered under NYS RS law*, the A/C rate is under DHCR jurisdiction. See PDF link provided.
http://www.nyshcr.org/Rent/OperationalBulletins/orao844_31.pdf
*I know it is rather fashionable at this blog to laugh at this fact and say it is just a TA talking point that all PCVST apartments are currently under NYS RS law because the Roberts ruling codified the massive rent increases for the renovated apartments while keeping them under NYS RS law but on 6/2020 (J-51 expires), ALL renovated apartments here drop off NYS RS law which includes many tenant protections** (any A/C charge limits as well). If you think this place is a shithole now, wait until 6/2020, you ain't seen nothing yet
**Succession rights, right for a lease renewal, etc.
http://www.nyshcr.org/Rent/tenantresources.htm
http://www.nyshcr.org/Forms/Rent/#tenant
Yes, this alert management thing is ridiculous. It was especially ridiculous when management and the TA advocated that tenants alert management about airbnbs. They can see them coming in with their phones and suitcases. IF They wanted to they could utilize PS to screen them at the loops. It is obvious that they don't care. If we alerted management they wouldn't do anything anyway because everything they do is designed for profit.
If the City wants to say this, and the Mayor wants to campaign on this, let us see the substantiation for the claim. Let us see the list of 5000 apartment homes to nurses, teachers, first responders and other working families.
"The City reached a 20-year agreement to protect 5,000 middle class housing units at Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village (STPCV). This is the largest number of affordable apartments ever preserved in a single City-led transaction in the history of New York City. For generations STPCV has been a home to working and middle-class families. This plan will halt the loss of more than 300 affordable apartments each year, ensuring that STPCV remains
a home for nurses, teachers, first responders and other working families."
http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/operations/downloads/pdf/pmmr2016/2016_pmmr.pdf
I'd be pissed if i paid for ac here too! for thousands of us here, it is free!!!!
".I'd be pissed if i paid for ac here too! for thousands of us here, it is free!!!!"gvsu
Bogus post.
Finally, after a couple of BS 5 star reviews, a legit Yelp review dated 2/5/17. We all need to go to the review and click on “Useful”. The STR banner page has the direct Yelp ink, click on it and then sort by: “Newest First”.
Good idea 8:11. I just clicked useful on that one. I usually click funny on the bogus ones planted by management.
"Good idea 8:11. I just clicked useful on that one. I usually click funny on the bogus ones planted by management."
8.11 here, ditto on the "Funny" for the bogus ones.
Blackstone is reopening the lottery. Interesting. This lottery business needs to be investigated, but of course our TA is useless. I do believe that there is some link with the city and that these apartments are being filled that way.
BTW, the lottery for "affordable" housing here is roughly $84,000 thousand to $140,000 thousand. Don't forget: it's affordable.
http://www.stuytownapartments.com/?gclid=CKfJlLHk-9ECFcOCswodceINZQ
Those high income standards are why this lottery thing is a crock. Instead of attracting nurses, teachers, and other professionals, Blackstone has to think up more creative ways to fill those apartments. Collusion with the city, I truly believe. We will see an increase in low income people being subsidized by the city.
It is collusion with the city. The city is claiming these are "affordable" but what is the size of the household? Doesn't say. I think that the city is giving away some perks to the landlord for this lottery, but I don't know what it is at this point. I don't make even the lower number and I am rent stabilized, truly rent stabilized, not this BS "everyone is rent stabilized."
A portion from T&V, article by Sabina Mollot. Be in good mood when you read this.
"An ad promoting the lottery that’s running in four newspapers this week, including Town & Village, states that the rent for a one-bedroom would go for $2,805 for one person earning $84,150-$104,775 or for two people earning $84,150-119,625. A two-bedroom would go for $3,366 for a 2-4 person household earning a minimum of $100,980 to a maximum of $119,625 for two people, $134,640 for three people and $149,490 for four people.
"By contrast, market rent in Stuyvesant Town starts at $3,200 for one-bedroom units and at $3,900 for two-bedroom units.
>>We are thrilled to build further upon our partnership with the Stuy Town community and to our commitment to preserving its legacy of affordability,” said Paula Chirhart, a spokesperson for Blackstone and StuyTown Property Services.
>>Council Member Dan Garodnick also cheered the news. “I am so gratified by seeing new residents benefit from this program and join our community, and look forward to spreading the word about this next round.”
>>Meanwhile, Susan Steinberg, president of the Stuyvesant Town-Peter Cooper Village, noted that the lottery rents were still too high for some hopefuls she’d heard from.
>>"It would appear that Blackstone will need to cast a wider net to meet their lottery goals,” she said. “The Tenants Association has heard several stories that prospective tenants, who met the income qualifications and were notified that an apartment was available, discovered that the rents were above what they could afford and turned the apartment down. Below market though the lottery apartments may be, their rents are still too high for many.”<<
Some words to remember: "Thrilled"... "Partnership".... "Cheered".....
Some more info:
https://town-village.com/2016/03/01/lottery-launched-for-affordable-apartments-in-stpcv/
I thought this comment was priceless. And, yes, all these "affordable" units will be renovated first.
>>The 5000 “affordable” apartments are the apartments currently occupied by longtime tenants who are paying lower rents protected by the RS laws. Management is hoping that 300 or so of those tenants croak every year because their units are earmarked for this program. I take comfort in the knowledge that the members of the TA board (at least most of them) are living in such units. So, Marsh, Salacan, Steinberg, Doyle and Co., just remember that the vultures are hovering over your lives too. It’s not just the poor souls on fixed SCRIE incomes for whom they are waiting for the bell to toll. The Blackstone (Blackheart/DeBlasio/Garodnick) hearses are parked outside your buildings with the engines running as they salivate at the thought of your eventual demise. How does it feel to know that you are prominent among those whose deaths are eargerly anticipated by salivating ghouls? I’m glad I am moving back to California in a few weeks from now and my daughter will continue living legally in my apartment. As she is only 34 years old, they will have to salivate for a long time to get their hands on it! I feel very sorry for the older folks, especially those on SCRIE, who management hopes will skid on a banana skin!<<
They have the nerve to put these new bogus lottery announcements under the doors. This management is so deceptive. How can you have a lottery with apartment rents so close to market rate and such high income caps! You mark my words, more and more us will be seeing city subsidized tenants living in these so-called lottery apartments, like I have next door to me. The tenant there did not even know what her rent was and asked if the rents are on sliding scales according to income. Folks, Blackstone continues to pull the wool over our eyes and get away with it.
A lottery offered to Stuyvesant Town residents that are market rate apartments to push out rent stabilized neighbors and take over the apartment. What a culture of un-community disgrace this place is now.
February 6, 2017 at 12:59 PM you hit the nail on the head with the old tired public relations spin spin spin words.
I was just looking at the T&V article on the lottery, and I love that slimy Dan is back at it with his ridiculous comments. How can he (and most politicians) sleep at night with the things they tell their constituents?
we continue to blame the students about stuff and most of that is true, but there are many many NON students who are not carpeting and leaving trash and being an asshole if asked to do such.
I know several and it is really fucked up.
I still don't know what you mean by "city subsidized." I wish someone would subsidize me! Unless you are talking about SCRIE, for which people can live here, and have lived here, but just find it difficult to pay the rent increases. No wonder they, the landlord and his friends, are thrilled and cheering.
I think it is correct that the current "lottery" is an attempt, in the long term, to get people out of true rent stabilization and into market rate status. And the less there are of "us," the better for the landlords. There will come a time when the "vote" will be against us, then, truly, it is: "You can't afford to live here (meaning NYC) then what are you doing here?"
i think the lottery is fake. I also think it's grade A bullcrap that they don't offer something to current residents. fucking assholes.
Folks, Blackstone continues to pull the wool over our eyes and get away with it.
February 6, 2017 at 1:41 PM
And the City Council
Today I saw a guy who truly looked homeless with a cart full of junk walking into a building on 14th Street. City subsidized is different from SCRIE which I believe mostly refers to seniors. City subsidized is when the city pays the bulk or a good part of the rent. The people next door to me are clueless about rent and definitely do not look like they can afford a market rate or even lottery apartment. No name on the door and the name which was first on the directory was not theirs. A sticker on the door indicates some religious ministry. Very fishy indeed. I think that this city subsidy business is tied in with cluster sites which I have read about. Is it so hard to believe that Blackstone is in cahoots with the city to pay the rents of low income tenants? It is a great way for Blackstone to fill apartments here.
I know that there is a very small amount of apartments that are meant as really affordable. I'll try to get the info, but this may be it perhaps.
This is the "deal" from what I understand. 5,000 apartments are "reserved" as affordable. We have seen what the money numbers are. Of those, 500 apartments are for low-income people. "$77 million in waived transaction taxes and a $144 million low-interest loan" are part of the deal and can be called "city subsidies." I don't have the money figures right now for these apartments.
http://citylimits.org/2015/10/20/stuy-town-deals-affordable-housing-is-barely-so/
http://nypost.com/2015/10/21/city-officials-agree-to-new-affordable-housing-deal/
This explains more and offers some money figures.
we are a married couple and a toddler. Are we NOT allowed to apply for the one bedroom lottery? The paper says 2 people.
Check with...management. They should know. BTW, speaking from experience, you situation is going to be very tight.
It is very sad that the situation is going slowly back to the tenement days. People are not able to live in the city under humane conditions, and the city is approving smaller and tighter.
But you do have your amenities!
I just had the second inspection of my apartment in under two years. I need a new smoke/CO detector which will cost me $50. Oh, I don't think the apartment above me has been inspected because Saturday nights it is screaming girls bounding around in high heels, definitely no carpeting.
Management doesn't seem to know much of anything. Good luck.
Fuck the amenities, would trade the ice skating and shameful laundry for peace, reasonable rent and nicer porters, nicer neighbors. Stuytown and Pcv ;not a nice place at all.
*814 am inspection for what? we had a wall inspection recently and we just moved in 8 months ago! LMFAO - they didn't care about rugs, we asked. And yes, above us high heels, no rugs.
"downtown is great, if you're under age 25. older and you need to get over it and move out of the dorm."
Trust me I would If I were paying market rate. If you can find me a comparable apartment (one bedroom in the sty) for under $1500 I promise I'll leave.
This place blows. Left several messages with management, and nobody returns your call. A real class act here.
at $1500, i'd shut off the whining, sorry, not sorry.
Is there a name or does anyone know who we can call to speak to about noise problem neighbors, not public safety. thank you.
When you say left several messages, with whom? get a name, document the time, date....
"This place blows. Left several messages with management, and nobody returns your call. A real class act here."
At this point, I would go directly to the First Ave Management Office and ask to speak to someone who handles your issue.
"Is there a name or does anyone know who we can call to speak to about noise problem neighbors, not public safety. thank you."
Call the service number and get the current name, and email of the director of Tenant Relations. Don’t worry, D. Habersham aka “The Sham” has been gone for some time now. They will switch you over to the VM of the director, they will not give you the direct phone number, I believe.
In any case, you may have the "no callback” issue as per the other poster, In that case, as I suggested, go over to the First Ave office directly.
"at $1500, i'd shut off the whining, sorry, not sorry."
An apartment that is practically unlivable because of disruptive neighbors isn't worth jack shit, whatever the rent.
I read they rick and his assistant and the Donald's replacement were quite helpful and nice so I reached out. Whom ever wrote that is a fake troll. I have now politely asked rIck and the spray tan man and Kaitlyn about a situation and all three were rude and dismissive. I'll be posting s full page tevor on yelp soon.
February 7, 2017 at 4:19 PM
Time is to valuable to waste on a landlord who is unresponsive.
Call 311
They take noise complaints BUT this place has an intermediary that intercepts the 311 calls before they get to authorities like DOB, DEP and NYPD so go to the DEP website after calling 311 to make the noise complaint.
When we call 311 the Noise complaints go to DEP and NYPD and the NYPD went to the party and shut it down a couple of years ago.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/html/noise/index.shtml
To report a noise complaint, call 311. For more detailed information
about noise in the city and the law itself, please visit:
www.nyc.gov/dep
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/pdf/noise_code_guide.pdf
7:52 pm, I don't follow your drift. Are you talking about Donald Trump (who has absolutely nothing to do with this property) or Donalda Habersham, who was the supposed tenant liaison?
"Donald's replacement"
7.52 PM, 7.29 PM here. Sorry to hear about your issue. I am not the troll you refer to but I did have some initial success with the new team re noise issues. It seems they have gone downhill. As has been been posted at the TA FB page, the only partial solution for the QOL noise issue is for Blackstone to install 80% or even better, wall to wall carpets for new vacancies since the transient demo is the one they market to. Looking forward to your Yelp review and the inevitable Blackstone “Peter W” tepid response.
February 7, 2017 at 7:52 PM "rude and dismissive" people are plain and simple folks, they are "empty suits" types who are designated placeholders for appearances sake to make it look on face value like one thing is going on when behind the scenes others are pulling all the strings. the old fashioned name for "empty suits" types is "talking heads" types in the 50's and 60's when tv first became popular and pretty faces delivered news, before the day of investigative journalism really took off. "empty suits" are just that, empty and they are dismissive because there is nothing inside to offer. just sayin' maybe that is why the people you list are dismissive.
10:54 The notice said illegal walls, carpeting, smoke detector, and peeling paint
I am nnot a member of the TA fb page, but what was posted?
"Call 311
They take noise complaints BUT this place has an intermediary that intercepts the 311 calls before they get to authorities like DOB, DEP and NYPD '
Sorry, do you have real proof for this serious corruption charge? Because I have done several 311 on line noise complaints and I have verified that my complaints have gone DIRECTLY to the 13th precinct and they have responded. They will respond if they do not have a priority police issue to override the noise compliant. The response (sent back to me via a confirm email) can be that that they responded but the complaint was not confirmed but I have also had my complaints confirmed and the issue addressed. I have also gone to the 13th myself and confirmed this with the precinct commander.
I think it is correct that the current "lottery" is an attempt, in the long term, to get people out of true rent stabilization and into market rate status. And the less there are of "us," the better for the landlords. There will come a time when the "vote" will be against us, then, truly, it is: "You can't afford to live here (meaning NYC) then what are you doing here?"
February 6, 2017 at 5:06 PM
That would not be happening if the property had a tenant association.
give us here the name of the new team in regards to the problems please.
"I am nnot a member of the TA fb page, but what was posted?"
You don't have to be a member, the TA FB is a public FB page, anyone as long as a person is in FB, one can view it (unlike the PCVST Mom's FB page).However, you must be a member of the page to post there.
I assume you are not a FB member so here is a copy and paste of the FB comment:
6.03 here, not sure why the copy and paste did not hit. Here it is again:
It's OBVIOUS that management is approving floor coverings that are INADEQUATE AND INAPPROPRIATE. The fact that so many people both here and on Yelp are complaining about noisy neighbors is sufficient evidence of that. There's barely a rule that Blackstone and their management team create that is enforced properly, IF AT ALL. Actions speak louder than all the signs they keep posting telling people to cover their floors. If Blackstone really cared about quality of life here, they would CARPET ALL VACANT APARTMENTS BEFORE RE-RENTING THEM.
February 8, 2017 at 3:32 PM This is common knowledge in New York City. New York could really use a Daily News expose on these companies.
"This is common knowledge in New York City. "
In your birther/truther mindset it is. Again, no proof. Buh bye, bogus one.
I hate it when they come out of the elevator with their 2 dogs, nearly knocking you over, and they smile like you are supposed to love their dogs.
A further sign of the dorm here is that students come down to the laundry in pajamas.
When will this all crack? Is it a dorm or is it a housing project? Enough with the student life already. Get a fucking real dorm on campus bunch of yahoos.
5:12, I completely agree that we are nothing more than a glorified dorm, but laundry in pajamas is not a sign of that. Men, women, and people of all ages have done this in the 50 years that I've lived here. Just last night I saw an elderly man in his pajamas doing his laundry. Most people wear comfortable clothes when doing chores like laundry.
If you had just kept it at pointing out that there are tens of thousands of students living here for 1-2 years at most while they finish their degrees (and throw weekly/nightly frat parties), that would have been enough!! :)
Also, where is the TA in all of this? Oh, that's right, plugging Garodnick's liberal agenda (it's ok, I'm a liberal!). Obviously I care about national issues, but come on "TA," can we do something around here regarding the dump this place has become, on your watch nonetheless?
I've lived here for about 30 years, and I have never seen someone with PJs in the laundry room. Just my experience. Yeah, people have on something comfortable, though.
9.11 AM.
Well said.
I've seen them on the street in PJs--usually clutching a Starbucks cup!
Can't believe that they are selling hoodies and t-shirts advertising the Sty. I would never wear anything advertising this dump.
Where on the Tenant Association website does it advertise their membership numbers? They say they are the largest in the nation but nowhere can we find the number of members to back up this claim. Does anyone know if this Association is as legitimate as they claim to be?
"Can't believe that they are selling hoodies and t-shirts advertising the Sty. I would never wear anything advertising this dump."
I know! I saw that in the latest email from "Living." They really are desperate for advertising and any small change they can pick up! I would be embarrassed to wear such tacky gear and, knowing the reputation the Sty has out in the general community, I would be ashamed! Everywhere I go, if I have to mention where I live I get the "Oh that used to be nice, but now I hear it's a huge student dorm and is horrible." I can't dispute what they have heard.
7:40 AM, it used to be very legit and very protective of tenants, but it changed. It is very secretive, political and serves as an arm of management and local pols, especially Dan G. Nobody knows what its revenue is and where it comes from and how it is spent. They claim to have lawyers who fight the MCIs, but if that is the case, their lawyers aren't much good because the best they ever do is get a few cents per room reduction. Most of the MCI challenges fail.
If our porter was a fucking grump to anyone i would not tip him or her.
I agree that the TA used to be a decent organization but has turned into an arm of management. This is the case especially after the Blackstone deal which they heavily endorsed. The TA cares not that Blackstone has turned the Sty into a transient dorm dump and is very evasive in their renting policies.
Can't believe that they are selling hoodies and t-shirts advertising the Sty. I would never wear anything advertising this dump.
February 10, 2017 at 6:23 PM
All college campuses sell those sweats and hoodie things.
Our TA once again promoting that their way is the only way to beat an MCI, basically scaring people into becoming a member in order to take part in their ineffective MCI fights. Does anyone know their exact MCI winning %, and how much it was?
Here is a response from the TA on the FB page:
Cat Macalver Not sure what you're referring to, but anything requiring legal action costs money, which is one of the things dues pay for. Anyone can request an extension and try to fight an MCI on their own, but that route is unlikely to bring positive results for the tenant.
STr, probably not nice to post Facebook names here. ?
Did anyone get a form from the TA requiring them to sign some kind of pledge to the TA that would ensure that they benefitted from any result the TA got from fighting the MCIs? They tell people that if they don't sign this thing then they need not expect to be included in any reduction in the MCI charge.
>>STr, probably not nice to post Facebook names here. ?<<
Who, where, what???
see your 11 58 post , isn't that a Facebook name of someone?
I would rather pay an MCI charge than give the useless TA $50 in dues. Dues for what?
I think the post at 11:56 AM is what 2:45 PM is referring to. No big deal, imo.
You have to give me the date, too. Otherwise I may go crazy. Again, if someone outs himself/herself on a public Facebook, why should their name be a secret over here???
I saw that too. I think it was 2/12 at 11 58am. The poster may want himself on FB, but if we copy and paste names of people here without permission, is ok?, I think they won't be thrilled but wha do i know. Just saying. It was not their choice if we copy paste.
The lady asked a question to Peter Stuyvesant on the TA FB page, and the response from Peter Stuyvesant included her name. The person copied and pasted the response, but there is nothing bad about her name being there. To me it just shows that the TA thinks it's the only game in town to battle MCI's, and they were letting her know that.
"Our TA once again promoting that their way is the only way to beat an MCI, basically scaring people into becoming a member in order to take part in their ineffective MCI fights. Does anyone know their exact MCI winning %, and how much it was?
Here is a response from the TA on the FB page:
Cat Macalver Not sure what you're referring to, but anything requiring legal action costs money, which is one of the things dues pay for. Anyone can request an extension and try to fight an MCI on their own, but that route is unlikely to bring positive results for the tenant."
STR, this is what all the "fuss" is about and I doubt the person named in the post would care. It is simply a copy of what the TA said in response to a question she/he asked.
Dog Poop & Lungworm
I have a hound mix, licensed, registered, fully vetted and quiet. I walk her in and around the 20th Street Loop and my building in dog approved areas. I initially curb trained her but the trucks scared her and she now only pees and poops on dirt - the few dirt areas that are not fenced. I'm in my seventies and without exception clean up after her. As a hound she walks nose to the ground and as a former stray she tries to snack on poop that I have a hard time seeing at night left in piles on the dirt by the entitled. I found out in December that she had lungworm. Lungworm? Not common in the NE. How do dogs get it? Some vets say sniffing lungworm cells off poop and some say from eating poop. Symptoms include coughing and chocking from the larvae living under their throat membranes on their journey to the lungs. Disgusting, right? Serious? Yes. Vet, fecal testing and medication - $500. My dog is one of three that I am aware of, so someone is leaving their dog's infected poop on the ground and infecting other dogs. Get a grip! If you insist on having a dog clean up after it! I have offered doggy bags and been ignored and told off. Stop hiding behind your phone and making believe you didn't see your dog poop - hey - maybe while you're ignoring your dog on that 20 ft. retractable leash it too will eat infected poop as well.
If a person posts his/her name on the TA, that person's name can be duplicated as it (the TA Facebook) is public.
Obviously, if the person doesn't want his/her name public that's another thing.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
7:40 AM, it used to be very legit and very protective of tenants, but it changed. It is very secretive, political and serves as an arm of management and local pols, especially Dan G. Nobody knows what its revenue is and where it comes from and how it is spent. They claim to have lawyers who fight the MCIs, but if that is the case, their lawyers aren't much good because the best they ever do is get a few cents per room reduction. Most of the MCI challenges fail.
February 11, 2017 at 11:38 AM
You are correct. The results say all that needs to be said. If you read the reasons the TA MCI challenges it states the TA does not have enough members to make the challenge. Looks a lot like a deliberate fail to get results.
Anonymous said...
When will this all crack? Is it a dorm or is it a housing project? Enough with the student life already. Get a fucking real dorm on campus bunch of yahoos.
February 9, 2017 at 7:39 PM
You are both a dorm and a housing project.
http://www.nychdc.com/pages/Now-Renting.html
"You are correct. The results say all that needs to be said. If you read the reasons the TA MCI challenges it states the TA does not have enough members to make the challenge. Looks a lot like a deliberate fail to get results."
Of course it's a deliberate fail! Ever heard of a "thrown fight?"
8:19 AM, I don't see anything about PCV or ST on that site.
Oops! Yes I see it. Not affordable and the rent quoted is just a starter rent; it will go up every lease renewal.
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