This is just a small sample, and covers just the walk I take in the morning/lunch time. The Oval Fountain area is a mess, with non-removable graffiti on the bench and beyond it, though the rest should come off with the rain. I saw a bicyclist riding around the Oval, too, and took a photo. There actually was a PS officer in the small booth this time, but did he say anything? No.The dog shit and reside dog shit stains are there to seen. And the urine streams. Remember, this is what I witness almost every day. Now you see it, too.
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And, of course, the TA should be fighting this lack of enforcement. But they are not. Why?
I agree that the grounds look terrible, filthy. This place never looked liked this. Three moving vans and u-hauls in my loop today. Also the stench of pot in my elevator and lobby. Churn, churn, churn.
Go to the entranceway of any building in PC and you will see dozens of piss streams like the ones you posted. They should just put hoses out there so that people can rinse off the ground after their dog pisses.
The thing that makes it even worse for me is that I'm a dog owner, and I always make sure to take her out LL and she either goes on the cobblestone or right on the curb on Avenue C. How hard is it for others to follow suit and keep the main entranceway clean?
The garden hose stations are a great idea and easily installed with the new underground pipes they laid in for lawn sprinklers during the time they were showing the property to buyers. The pipes are still there but the sprinklers have not been used since the sale.
I've got no problems with the chalk marks. Kids.
I do have problems with the dog piss stains. I always pray for rain. Cleans the place up for a few days.
This place is, quite literally, a shithole now. I've been here for several years and have NEVER seen the place look as bad it does now. They want us to refer a friend for a $1,000 refund on one month's rent. I don't know anybody who I hate enough to recommend that they rent here! Not only that, but I would be embarrassed to suggest to a friend or acquaintance that they rent here. It is just horrible. They make no effort to enforce the dog and bike laws outside and no effort to enforce the trash and noise rules inside. It is just a disgusting shithole of a complex now. Thanks a lot Rick Hayduk. Why don't you pack up and go away. You are useless. Get that? YOU ARE USELESS!!!!
More dog shit seen late this afternoon. On the return from Associated.
>>I've got no problems with the chalk marks. Kids.<<
Lack of voicing a "no." Adults.
You think the dog problem is bad now, wait until the residents of that 14th street near B building gets tenants. LMAO
Wow, that's good to know about Hoylman. Yet another local politician with ties to big RE. Does it ever end?
These politicians need to realize that in this day in age of technology and social media at our fingertips, nothing is secret.
Sorry Brad, you lost my vote!
Whatever rain we had did not remove the dog shit. So it is still there. No Blackstone rep or porter or worker called the shit, here and there, in.
Sorry, it won't get through if I think you are an outsider making a troll comment. I laugh, as you get your temper up.
What's that ugly tented thing? I thought the tent was not going back up this year? I never walk around the property anymore because of the speeding bikes and dog shit.
Now is a good time to remind us all of a STR post on May 6, 2014 when a Brickman Account Manager became Director, Horticulture and Landscape Management at Peter Cooper Village/Stuyvesant Town
Tuesday, May 6, 2014
Another Outrageous PR Article in Town & Village, This Time About PCVST Landscaping
http://stuytownreport.blogspot.com/2014/05/another-outrageous-pr-article-in-town.html
Should have taken some close ups of the flagpole base. Even though there's signage on four sides that state dogs aren't allowed, they're all covered in piss stains.
People like to sit there, kids naturally want to climb it... Yep, that's a great spot for Fido to drain his bladder!
There's a tent where the ice rink is, or was, as it is in the process of being taken down for the spring.
The responses to the e-mails by Rick Hayduk to tenants is a clever ploy to look like management is tending to QOL issues. Some tenants are so gratified when they receive a quick answer to their complaints. The bottom line is that the core QOL issues are getting worse and worse. The tenants have to keep up a steady stream of complaints, because the issues are never completely dealt with, many of the issues stemming from the transient/dorm demo and the constant churning of apartments. So the next time someone gets a friendly, quick e-mail response from Rick, consider his efforts to appease the tenants so that they will ignore the core issues.
I guess now is the wrong time to go to Associated and return. Seen 10 (that's ten!) bicyclists riding around the Oval very freely. Not seen: any PS officer present. Not a real surprise, but ten!!!
March 25, 2017 at 11:55 PM That Senator is shouting for the President to be transparent with his taxes when that Senator is shrouded in secrecy. The Senator and President are equally opaque and secretive.
The Senator has done nothing for this community but a lot of empty promises and all talk talk talk with zero results for constituents but great results for RE developers. http://thevillager.com/2016/10/06/rabbi-runs-vs-hoylman-does-he-have-a-prayer/
The only good thing out of the current Presidency is a possible end to all of their lack of transparency, the Democrats, the Republicans, even the StuyTown Tenant Association who imitate the politicians with the same PR firms, lack of transparency, shadow foundations, and so on. They all lack transparency.
Oh, btw, dated October 29, 2015:
https://town-village.com/2015/10/29/blackstone-addresses-tenants-concerns/
For generations the moms in Stuyvesant Town were kind people. Now they are mean-spirited and gossipy. How did this happen?
Yeah, this is true about Rick. Contacted him about a problem, thought he'd deal with it, said he would and in the end, di not, did not help @ all.
Sorry Brad, you lost my vote!
March 26, 2017 at 8:19 AM
Ditto.
Yes, there are piss stains on the buildings, in front of the buildings and around the buildings. One day I entered the lobby where one woman's dog had just laid down 7 turds. Just a few weeks ago it looks like some dog left some kind of large stain on the carpet in front of the elevator. Small dogs and large dogs are here sometimes barking, sometimes howling.
Let me tell you...the dog owners in my building don't give a damn. Their dogs can do no wrong. They don't see anyone else's point of view for a second. They have no concern whatsoever about anyone else, and then whine about how mean others are when they complain about the problems the dogs create. It is all about them, 100%.
There's hardly a building unaffected now because there are so many dogs here. And the person who most doesn't give a damn is Hayduk. He can't do enough for dog owners. Whatever he's doing now, it's for sure he plans to do more.
Just wait until it gets warmer. Things are set to get much worse.
seems mostly all the residents in stuy and especially Pcv grumpy, unhappy and rude.
especially mucho mucho pee pee in the backbasment entrance of 6 PC. My kids live in 7 PC and is same. Porter should clean this - it is gross. Best guess is dogs pee there way out and in and since it is a back entrance cleaner dont give a fuck.
RE: Crayons and Chalk
Outside 410 East 20th parents let their children draw in crayon all over the concrete. Then left the entire box of about 200 crayons strewn all over. Still there and this was days ago.
But now the wrappers from the crayons have come off so the mess is worse.
Keep up the good work Rick! You have really made a big difference around here!
Good people of the sty, it seems that periodically I must give a diatribe regarding the positive future we tenants have to look forward to (lest we get dragged down into the well of negativity that permeates this blog). As I've mentioned in prior posts, an "affordable condo conversion" takes time to implement, but I can tell you that once it is accomplished, we tenants will finally have the autonomy that is so desperately needed here. I assure you that Dan Garodnick and the TA will never accept the mayor's deal with Blackstone because they realize that the only way positive change can be implemented is through tenant ownership. I've heard ruminations to the effect that DG will sell us down the river for the sake of political expediency. I'm afraid you're incorrect. You just don't know Dan. I know of no other person with as strong a moral compass and dedication to the well being of the tenants of the sty. The same can be said regarding the always effectual and competent (and voracious I might add) tenant's association. Tenant's, do you really think that DG and the tenant's association would have wasted the tenant's with all of those inane meeting with Paul Weiss and our financial advisory team just to ultimately sell us all out? I think not.
Finally, a word regarding Rick Hayduk. To be candid, most of my adult life has been spent NOT believing in a supernatural dimension. I've been an atheist if you will. That was until the sty received RH as the new property manager. I quickly concluded that there was, in fact, a god and that he blessed this property in the form of Rick Hayduk. A man whose acumen allowed him to attain the profound understanding that simply by asking millennials to do the right and respectful thing through the use of crookedly placed (yet classy) stickers in the elevators (among other things) would get the job done. Who the hell would have thought? Certainly not me! Why is it that when walking through the sty one will never come across a pile of shit or a shit stain, yet there are thousands of dogs here? Such wasn't the case before his arrival was it? Could it be a result of his new lanyard dog policy (strictly enforced)? I think perhaps so. It was quite inspiring watching all of those non-resident dog walkers attempt to gain entry into the sty only to be intercepted by the always adroit stytown security team and escorted off of the property. I would also like to thank Rick and the security team for always providing a safe environment for young and old, male and female residents of this sty. I think, perhaps, we can partially thank the intricate video camera system installed here several years ago for this reality. I do recall people complaining about that MCI didn't I? Now, of course, we all see the utility of said video cameras. I do, however, digress. Rick Hayduk, I'm a fan. We should all be grateful to have him here.
In summation, please lets all be patient. Good things await us all (how could it possibly be otherwise with the team we have looking out for us)? Finally please, please always remember: things are always darkest.......before they go completely black.
--TA Supporter
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For generations the moms in Stuyvesant Town were kind people. Now they are mean-spirited and gossipy. How did this happen?
March 26, 2017 at 6:49 PM
You mean unlike the kind souls who post well meaning and thoughtful comments here?
I think you're confusing kind with voiceless.
Poor baby.
Hmm... I could be wrong, but wasn't the Stuy Moms Facebook outed some time ago when that group bitched about long-time tenants not paying their "fair" share?
>>RE: Crayons and Chalk
Outside 410 East 20th parents let their children draw in crayon all over the concrete. Then left the entire box of about 200 crayons strewn all over. Still there and this was days ago.
But now the wrappers from the crayons have come off so the mess is worse.<<
Of course! What is discipline? Can't say no to the little darlings, particularly when so much rent is being paid.
"seems mostly all the residents in stuy and especially Pcv grumpy, unhappy and rude"
But, but, I laugh a lot.
>>TA Supporter<<
Thank you! It's about time we got an accurate view of this place and our wonderful overlords. ;-)
March 25, 2017 at 1:21 PM that is more proof that they (Blackstone, Goldman Sachs Deputy Mayor who cut the deal and Mayor who claimed victory in announcing his deal) are running this place into the ground so they can justify demolishing it for the condo hotel that includes our very own Brickman PAC shell companies aka golf course landscapers whose resume has no horticulture or arborist experience.
There is no tenant victory in StuyTown. The only victory is for the developers and politicians who are moving closer to their Tishman planned and "Blackstone" financed Brickman landscapers redesign & redevelopment (Brickman now called Brightview in a PR twist to evade affiliation with Rockville, Maryland Brickman Super PAC name).
STR pegged this one on May 2014.
Stuy Town Reporter said...
Hmm... I could be wrong, but wasn't the Stuy Moms Facebook outed some time ago when that group bitched about long-time tenants not paying their "fair" share?
March 27, 2017 at 10:17 AM
YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR.
March 27, 2017 at 10:20 AM
and you make all of us laugh too. Thank you STR for getting the truth out there while still making us laugh out loud at times.
Things appear pretty grim here. I am not sure the self-defense classes help when confronting bicycles in the oval. I agree the doggy sh*t is getting out of control, where is the enforcement. That said, its pretty sad spending your day photographing doggy residue. Time better spent outing habitual offenders, Airbner's, etc.
Time to take a different approach.
Not the Mom's page again. I forgot, once a woman gives birth, she's given a secret code for the Mom's FB page. Where like the Borg, all have the same brain and same opinions.
I'm sure, just like this group, they have normals and crazies and those with persecution complexes.
You may want to contemplate why this always circles back to the moms. What is it ABOUT YOU that constantly thinks women who have given birth are your enemy. That when one steps near your ever-moving judgement line, you turn into a defensive child.
Maybe you can get the TA to fund a study. They're not going to come up with anything any more productive with those ill-gotten gains.
"You mean unlike the kind souls who post well meaning and thoughtful comments here?"
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I am surrounded by growing numbers of churning transients packed into noisy, chopped up dorms. I see more and more dogshit everywhere whenever I walk around what used to be an 80-acre oasis. Everyday I smell marijuana in my building's lobby and hallways. I am accosted every 5-10 feet by more and more signs listing more and more rules that Rick repeatedly demonstrates will never be enforced.
My NYC Councilman and TA Board diverted to Blackstone their STPCV resident constituents' exclusive access to $2.7 Billion Fannie Mae purchase funding ($700 Million more than daddy Speyer secured for his idiot son) that should have funded a genuine STPCV tenant purchase leading to genuine STPCV resident ownership of the entire STPCV complex (without a phony Brookfield partner) and enabling middle class STPCV residents to affordably purchase their individual STPCV homes. The reduced Fannie Mae 10-year loan rate will save Blackstone more than $400 Million mortgage interest expense.
After betraying 100% of their STPCV neighbors/constituents, my NYC Councilman and TA Board continue pretending the Blackstone predator owning EVERYTHING STPCV, including my home, is somehow a historic middle class victory, the best possible outcome that could be achieved after Speyer nearly destroyed the place before walking away. Blackstone is always telling me I should be grateful for the tremendous representation provided for me by my hardworking NYC Councilman and TA Board, always fighting for me, always looking out for my best interests. My NYC Mayor, NYC Councilman and TA Board literally guaranteed in-writing STPCV middle class extinction. Lacking honest representation, unprotected STPCV residents LOST EVERYTHING.
We should own this place, not Blackstone. Rick would have been fired six months ago for failing to do his job. There would be no dogshit everywhere. There would be no transients living in chopped up dorms. We would not be condemned to extinction.
P.R. troll-spin that deteriorating QOL and backstabbing betrayal into a "well meaning and thoughtful comment."
>>You may want to contemplate why this always circles back to the moms. What is it ABOUT YOU that constantly thinks women who have given birth are your enemy. That when one steps near your ever-moving judgement line, you turn into a defensive child.<<
I am not aware that there is a Facebook group called "Stuy Dads." If there is, please tell me about it.
5:32am...poor whiner. up to walk his dog.
That StuyTown Mom Facebook page is too mean-spirited for a lot of us Stuyvesant Town PCV Moms, new and old. This place was nicer and had nicer Moms before. A lot of neighbors are turned off by the Facebook Moms.
Agree with STR that the dads who are husbands of the Facebook Moms are just as mean-spirited and impatient too. Its just that the Facebook page is called Moms but it includes the dads too. Parents weren't as impatient, demanding and pushy as the parents of today. The culture of the complex has gone downhill and it is attracting parents who have superiority complexes.
"I am not aware that there is a Facebook group called "Stuy Dads." If there is, please tell me about it."
That's STY DADS! Adjust your search engine parameters accordingly.
:)
March 27 at 1:41 PM you have absolutely nailed it! Very, very well said. The TA spin and the DG spin make me want to puke. They are a disgusting cabal of creeps. Include Dishonest DeBlasio in that too.
"You may want to contemplate why this always circles back to the moms."
Perhaps it is that Facebook Moms are making all the Moms in StuyTown look bad. Not every Mom and Dad here are like the Facebook Moms. They are an extreme, fringe and at times a mean-girls group.
True True True True
Anonymous Anonymous said...
BTW, the squirrels were here way before you were and THEY LIVE HERE TOO. Management better not be culling the squirrels here just because some non new yorker residents are complaining. Those landscaper people don't know what they're doing. They're purposely killing all the trees and not maintaining. I know because I'm an arborist. They also never replanted the trees they said they would to replace others. They left the new ones wrapped in burlap where they should have been replanted and they just sat in the sun and wilted and died and then were thrown away. They think people don't notice. WRONG.
March 26, 2017 at 2:33 PM
March 27, 2017 at 5:42 PM
Agree
March 27, 2017 at 6:57 PM
Agree
March 27, 2017 at 1:41 PM
AGREE
STR, those photographs of the dog shit and piss are nauseating. Unfortunately, they are the reality of the STY we are living in now. Come to think of it, pigs would probably be disgusted to live in this filthy, shit-splattered dump.
This is all a reflection on YOU, Rick Hayduk. You hear that? This SHIT-SPLATTERED property is on YOU! Take responsibility or take a hike. Not a pay hike, but a hike back to where you came from. We could have any underpaid shyster come in and run the place the way you run it. Thing is, you are not underpaid. Shyster? You tell me/us.
For anyone who doesn't already know, Rick Hayduk owns TWO dogs. Maybe that's why enforcement re dogs is so, pardon the pun, crappy here.
The mean mom group with the strollers.
>>The mean mom group with the strollers.<<
Oh, that's so intelligent of you, to divert attention. Not. My post was about the Stuy Moms group outed publicly that they wanted old timers to pay their "fair" share. This was confirmed by a poster.
With me, you won't win battles, no matter how much you desire to control the conversation, if not ban it. Sorry, wrong group.
Rick Hayduk is merely the spokesman for Blackstone. He represents them. If they fire him you will just get someone else supporting their policies and looking the other way. I am sick and tired of seeing these people with 2 dogs. The least they can do is limit it to one.
Speaking of sites, go to Stuyvesant Town Peter Cooper Classifieds, items posted clearly indicate the seller's non-conformance to floor coverage policy each lease contains. Management please use the information to enforce compliance, it cant be any easier.
I don't remember anything about the Stuy moms saying anything about old timers paying their fair share, and I've followed this blog for a long time.
Anybody who thinks old timers don't pay their fair share are completely missing the big picture. They are paying their fare share. However, the "market raters" are paying for the debt that Rob Speyer and his cronies dumped on the property and then walked away from it when they found they could not evict or exterminate the rent stabilized tenants. They had a damn good try and destroyed many innocent people's lives in the process, but in the end they just gave up and walked away and left the property saddled with crushing debt. Before Met Life sold us down the river to the blood-sucking filth, the property ran at a profit and had no debt.
"With me, you won't win battles, no matter how much you desire to control the conversation, if not ban it. Sorry, wrong group."
You talkin'a us? Or you talkin' a somebody who's comments you don't print?
"My NYC Councilman and TA Board diverted to Blackstone their STPCV resident constituents' exclusive access to $2.7 Billion Fannie Mae purchase funding ($700 Million more than daddy Speyer secured for his idiot son) that should have funded a genuine STPCV tenant purchase leading to genuine STPCV resident ownership of the entire STPCV complex (without a phony Brookfield partner) and enabling middle class STPCV residents to affordably purchase their individual STPCV homes. The reduced Fannie Mae 10-year loan rate will save Blackstone more than $400 Million mortgage interest expense."
Good sir/madam, are you inferring that Dan Garodnick and the Stytown tenant's association had an opportunity to indeed engineer and "affordable condo conversion" but willfully opted not too simply to placate the mayor's office? That sounds very sleezy and diabolical, don't you think?
--TA Supporter
March 27, 2017 at 1:41 PM
We should own this place, not Blackstone. Rick would have been fired six months ago for failing to do his job. There would be no dogshit everywhere. There would be no transients living in chopped up dorms. We would not be condemned to extinction.
Can't agree. If residents owned the place, they would rip each other to shreds.
>>You talkin'a us? Or you talkin' a somebody who's comments you don't print?>>
Must be someone outside.
>>I don't remember anything about the Stuy moms saying anything about old timers paying their fair share, and I've followed this blog for a long time.<<
I do remember something like this, though. Years ago. Someone outed the group, or at least a few members who felt that old timers were not contributing enough. As a matter of fact, I think the opinion was stronger than that. It wasn't a "live and let live" attitude. I think there was some movement to get these "leeches" gone.
Mostly there are hundreds of people from 2nd , 3rd avenue who come in to walk dogs, they do and I know them.
I believe when we had the Soccer Moms vs. the coeds, it was stated that the amount of rent we pay, we should be allowed to do whatever we want. I believe the kids today call that "giving shade"
There used to be some really nasty, vindictive women on the TA fb page. They were eventually kicked off it by John Marsh (though one remains under two different names) and I remember that those women used to stalk and harass some of the Stuy Town moms (especially a muslim lady). They were absolutely vile and vicious. They violated every rule of common decency, let alone Facebook! I can't remember if they were the same women who pissed off the Stuy Town Moms to the extent that some of those Moms were ready to bring legal action. They used to make fun of the Moms and make up stupid names for them, based on their real names. As a sick bunch of harridans, they took first prize.
If those were the rent stabilized tenants who the ST Moms called leeches, they were quite justified. At least justified in their anger at these women.
I am a "Stuy Dad," so I don't know much about the Stuy Moms page other than what my wife tells me about, and that is very rare. What I do know is that I have seen plenty of instances where people have said that RS tenants need to pay their fair share, and I am market rate. I have seen it on this blog, T&V blog, various Facebook pages. I couldn't disagree with them more.
True RS tenants made this property a cash cow long before MetLife started converting apartments to market rate, and it could have stayed that way if it weren't for corporate greed. What that means is that these corporate bigwigs are lining their pockets with the excess money, therefore if RS tenants were paying their "fair share," it would just be money going to corporate greed and not to the upkeep of the property.
Market rate tenants who say that the true RS need to pay their fair share are just jealous. I am one of those people, but I would take what they have in a heartbeat and I hold absolutely no grudge against those that have been here long enough to make this place the great place it used to be.
March 28, 2017 at 5:42 PM
You are correct.
Re: ST Moms & FB - it's because they're all snobs not originally from NYC that forget the spirit of this city and look down their noses at ST south
Heavens to murgatroid, people say the stupidest things all the time on those facebook pages and here on this blog. But add the m word to it and it's all torches and pitchforks. Y'all have long memories and short fuses.
The Property Services CEO|General Manager - Stuyvesant Town|Peter Cooper Village - Stuyvesant Town|Peter Cooper Village and the Director, Horticulture and Landscape Management at Peter Cooper Village/Stuyvesant Town - StuyTown - Stuyvesant Town/Peter Cooper Village both hail from Resort - Golf backgrounds where .. surprise, surprise .. super PAC Brickman Group Rockville, Maryland is the largest contractor for Resort - Golf landscaping. Rockville, Maryland Super PAC Brickman Group sure seems a shell of a company that uses and churns through a lot of transient employees some whose qualifications are limited to owning a truck.
Wait a second STR, these pictures of the property that you posted are vastly different from the ones that Blackstone put up on the Stuyvesant Town Website! What gives?????
The TA is doing nothing about the discrepancy in service treatment the market raters get versus the rent stabilized. StuyTown has two tier discriminatory service. Try it. Grab a rent stabilized neighbor and make the same request for the same service and watch the rent stabilized neighbor get the runaround while the market rate get the service.
Another thing besides the moms that we can circle back to is the councilman's pal SL Green. The SL Green investment in the Tishman Speyer BlackRock deal was made whole again by every deal on the table with the end run by Blackstone Ivanhore. SL Green and the wealthy developers got bailed out of their morbid and bad investments banking on fast returns from our deaths and demise at the hands of Tishman Speyer and BlackRock. Every deal was tailored to make sure the developers got their returns on their morbid and bad investments including the Brookfield Tenant Association deal and the Blackstone Ivanhore deal. The developers got back their money AND the city & state helped the developers rid of 60 or 70% of the permanent tenants. Followed by the SL Green midtown Vanderbilt corridor councilman and mayor deal.
Tenants losing their entire home is A-OK with our politicians but a developer losing anything makes NY politicians bend over to pick it up for them. They will even spin a tale about developers walking away only to remain under new and ever changing names.
Anyone else makes a bad investment and they are sh*t out of luck. But in NY when a developer makes a bad investment Albany and City Hall will bail your a** out.
"Many of the other companies, banks, countries and pension funds — including the government of Singapore, the Church of England, the Manhattan real estate concern SL Green, and the Newcastle Investment Corporation — that invested billions of dollars in the 2006 deal stand to lose their entire stake."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/nyregion/26stuy.html
March 28, 2017 at 7:11 PM they've a Junior High School mentality when we are all on the playgrounds.
Forget the bikes for one minute, and can we talk about the ridiculous number of gas powered vehicles that are much bigger than bikes that are on this property?
I was just out for a walk with my son. We went from 23rd street to 14th street entirely through the property. Remind you that this is not on the streets or loop raids, it's entirely on Stuy Town sidewalks.
3 security vans - different numbers
3 golf carts - speeding of course
2 larger enclosed carts - I think they pick up garbage
1 commercial van - looked like food for Five Stuy Cafe
1 big white truck that collects the bulk trash
How is it that this place was run so damn well for such a long time with such minimal equipment, and now it's run like crap and there are more vehicles going through here than you would see at the Daytona 500? I have a true appreciation for the old school workers that still go about their jobs with just the shopping carts!
...I have seen plenty of instances where people have said that RS tenants need to pay their fair share, and I am market rate. I have seen it on this blog, T&V blog, various Facebook pages. I couldn't disagree with them more.
True RS tenants made this property a cash cow long before MetLife started converting apartments to market rate, and it could have stayed that way if it weren't for corporate greed. What that means is that these corporate bigwigs are lining their pockets with the excess money, therefore if RS tenants were paying their "fair share," it would just be money going to corporate greed and not to the upkeep of the property.
Market rate tenants who say that the true RS need to pay their fair share are just jealous. I am one of those people, but I would take what they have in a heartbeat and I hold absolutely no grudge against those that have been here long enough to make this place the great place it used to be.
Whoever you are, sir, you are absolutely correct. Excess $$ earned here go to line the pockets of the corporate bigwigs. They certainly aren't being used to improve the quality of life. Thank you for your honesty and decency on this issue.
@TA Supporter
March 28, 2017 at 1:07 PM
"Good sir/madam, are you inferring that Dan Garodnick and the Stytown tenant's association had an opportunity to indeed engineer and "affordable condo conversion" but willfully opted not too simply to placate the mayor's office? That sounds very sleezy and diabolical, don't you think?"
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First, your reference, if honest, which it isn’t, is deeply flawed. Any STPCV ownership conversion scenario including the words “Garodnick” and “condo” inherently confiscated the word “affordable” from the vast majority of middle class STPCV residents. Additionally, you failed to include the words “Brookfield” and “Moelis” that are inextricably linked to, and doomed, the disgraceful Garodnick-TA Board condo scam. Brookfield is a major REBNY predator investing $25 Million supporting and cheerleading Speyer’s take-no-prisoners business plan raking in multiple billion dollar windfalls booting a historic middle class community out of our STPCV homes. Just a few months after Speyer crashed and walked away, Brookfield did not suddenly transform into the “value sharing white knight” falsely portrayed to us by Garodnick-TA Board.
De Blasio may be corrupt, but he’s not stupid. He actually reviewed the Garodnick-TA Board-Brookfield condo scam offering plan and recognized it for what it was; a disgraceful giveaway of multiple billion dollar windfalls to Garodnick owning REBNY predator Brookfield that betrayed and disenfranchised his STPCV neighbors/constituents. Brookfield, not middle class STPCV residents would own the 80-acre complex. Brookfield was needlessly inserted as an unnecessary sponsor standing between STPCV tenants and individual home ownership. I don't recall Garodnick-TA Board-Brookfield ever offering STPCV residents "affordable" ownership. They were offering expensive condos sold by REBNY predator Brookfield for a "fair" or "reasonable" (tiny discount) price aimed at the highest earning STPCV residents (mostly Roberts class action plaintiffs paying market rents and forced to buy). Middle class STPCV residents were provided with a false "Hobson's Choice" - expensive condos they could never afford to buy if they wanted to. Brookfield would later rake in windfalls selling their occupied homes in bulk to colleges, hospitals and corporations becoming their landlords pushing them out. The mayor reviewed the Garodnick-TA Board condo scam and knew STPCV residents were being deceived, kept ignorant in the dark.
Unlike the mayor, STPCV residents, never provided with basic, essential, substantive facts, were forced to deduce the Garodnick-TA Board betrayal from constantly being lied to, misinformed and kept ignorant in the dark about their Brookfield condo scam for four years.
It’s now clear Garodnick-TA Board were lying to us every time they told us Mayor de Blasio was “open” to their Brookfield condo scam. Not only was de Blasio never “open” to the condo scam, at some point he correctly realized disgusted STPCV residents did not support it. That made it easy for him. The NYC Mayor offered a 2nd crack at our homes to the generous REBNY/Wall Street predators Moelis rejected, but were willing to muscle out Garodnick-TA Board-Brookfield. All they had to do was deposit $$$$ into his slush fund claiming support for his pre-K school agenda and whisper STPCV into his ear.
cont....
@TA Supporter
March 28, 2017 at 1:07 PM
"Good sir/madam, are you inferring that Dan Garodnick and the Stytown tenant's association had an opportunity to indeed engineer and "affordable condo conversion" but willfully opted not too simply to placate the mayor's office? That sounds very sleezy and diabolical, don't you think?"
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We became pawns sacrificed in a petty political pissing match between de Blasio and Garodnick with Cuomo lurking in the background. NYC Mayor de Blasio was bitch-slapped around too many times by NYC Councilman Garodnick mentor NYS Governor Cuomo. De Blasio decided to bitch-slap Cuomo protégé Garodnick by replacing the Garodnick owning REBNY predator Brookfield with the de Blasio owning Wall Street predator Blackstone. Corrupt NYC politics being local, so long as a major REBNY/Wall Street predator successfully realizes Speyer’s failed business plan raking in multiple billion dollar windfalls pushing our historic middle class community out of STPCV, Cuomo kept his distance.
No politician defended the 80-acre STPCV complex or our 11,225 middle class STPCV homes against REBNY/Wall Street predators showering them with $$$$ 24/7/365 demanding EVERYTHING from them.
Both the de Blasio-BlackStone lottery scam and Garodnick-TA Board-Brookfield condo scam delivered the same result: Politicians we elected to defend us against REBNY/Wall Street predators gave EVERYTHING to those same REBNY/Wall Street predators while their STPCV resident constituents electing them received NOTHING THEY DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE – eroding RS protections on a death march instigated and maintained by corrupt politicians taking $$$$ showered on them 24/7/365 by REBNY/Wall Steet predators demanding EVERYTHING from them, which STPCV demands they dutifully complied with. Don't get suckered in by politicians pretending to defend RS with staged arrests and futile bus rides to the corrupt swamp in Albany begging Speyer's slave Cuomo to do something real. REBNY/Wall Street predators are funding the politicians' charade.
TA Board is complicit not negligent. (my opinion not to be attributed to STR)
De Blasio should be spending what should be his 2nd term in a prison cell and if Preet had taken a close look at the scandal going down at STPCV, Garodnick would be sitting in the adjoining cell. (my opinion not to be attributed to STR)
TA Suppoter:
Your words "sleazy and diabolical" accurately describe the scandal going down at STPCV.
Seen today, during lunchtime: 4 (yes, four) dogs being walked together into this property--without the required lanyards, of course. Were they escorted out? No. They weren't even stopped. Thank you, Rick and PS.
Also seen more dogs in the property without lanyards. Were the owners escorted out or at least warned. No. Thank you, Rick and PS.
The rains came yesterday. Seen more dog poop, however. Thank you, Rick and PS.
Speaking of PS, where are they?
>>How is it that this place was run so damn well for such a long time with such minimal equipment, and now it's run like crap and there are more vehicles going through here than you would see at the Daytona 500?<<
I see these vehicles daily. Usually at what seems to be speeds that are higher than allowed. Mostly golf carts with the lazy sons-of-bitches inside. So far, they haven't hit me. For that, at least, I am thankful. BTW, one guy was on two cell phones and still driving his golf cart!
Oh, btw. Nice that we are getting new flowers. Too bad the old ones, still good, had to be thrown away. Again, saw this with my own eyes.
So we get new flowers, but we can't get any enforcement of the "rules."
Don't know how many people who read this blog read the TA Facebook, but if you do read it you may have noticed that at the time prior to and after the Presidential election Peter Stuyvesant made it clear that no political discourse would be allowed. Fair enough, but it seems that John Marsh is perfectly free to push and shill for his pal, Goradnick, and declare DeBlasio the Savior of RS tenants. I personally like Garodnick and DeBlasio and would vote for them if they were up for re-election, but I could not help but notice the double standard on the TA Facebook. John Marsh got quite pushy in telling some woman that she was so wrong in not liking those two politicians. I can't air my views on that Facebook because I am not a member and wouldn't want to be (better things to do with my money) but I occasionally read it when it is not whited out.
Talking about flowers, I remember how lovely the oval used to look at this time of year. There were daffodils all along the immaculately landscaped grass. The landscaping here now looks terrible and pretty soon the oval will be infested with the sunbathers. The dogs keep multiplying as do the students.
Ok ok, I am done. 8 am this morning. 39 degrees out and there is no grass here. We live on east 23 and If i could only send you audio. the grass cutters, leaf blowers arrived annoyingly loud and cutting nothing. Several guys showed up at 8 am and frankly I am calling 311 to complain now and a lawyer. I want out of this shitty lease and shitty dump. I work from 11 until 8 and would like to sleep in the morning. I dont want to be awakened by lawnmowers and leaf blowers at 8 am or before that! I never complained about the neighbors but enough is enough. My rental is approaching 3700 and fuck this place. Who the fuck mows a dirt weed lawn at this hour and its not even forty degree. I HATE STUYTOWN I HATE PCV.
obviously Rick means to disrupt tenants. There are 10 other hours they can mow the dirt lawn. Why not at 3 pm, 4 pm, 5 pm. You all suck and you will pay for trying to get us to move.
10:31 couldn't be more correct. A quick search with John's name in the group will show the exact statements he made to these effects. In the month of March there are a number of instances of John pushing his personal political stances on people on the TA FB page, and it's disgusting. We know how John feels about Dan based on the the fact that he allowed Dan to take over the TA, so we don't need him to remind us that he could write a book regarding the great things Dan has done for PCVST and the city. Those of us with brains, logic, and reading comprehension skills know the truth about Dan.
Speaking of the TA, where were they regarding this recent case in which landlords tried to get the 0% increase (DeBlasios one good thing) overturned? Usually Dan and the TA would be loud and vocal against this, with buses and everything to show their support for the rent freeze. Guess it shows where their allegiance lies now.
Here is the bottomline. The politicians created a perfect civil war-like storm because the land value of all of the surrounding neighborhood parcels depends upon this community demolished so luxury condo towers can increase profits from all the surrounding lower east side, gramercy, murray hill, kips bay and so on. Developments of luxury condo hotels tower by kicking us all out of our homes will probably increase profits for all 5 boroughs land hoarders especially those buying up the waterfront who the Mayor is building ferries, yacht and special trainlines for. The Mayor caused the entire 5 boroughs to want this community gone so all 5 boroughs can see their land values increase from towers here while the land is being hoarded by a few owners and away from individual homeowners and smaller landlords. It is nothing more than greed.
March 29, 2017 at 10:31 PM the Marsh guy was on the de Blasio Inauguration Team and according to reports de Blasio does the pay-to-play game with his committee appointments.
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@TA Supporter
March 28, 2017 at 1:07 PM
Good sir/madam, are you inferring that Dan Garodnick and the Stytown tenant's association had an opportunity to indeed engineer and "affordable condo conversion" but willfully opted not too simply to placate the mayor's office? That sounds very sleezy and diabolical, don't you think?
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First, your reference, if honest, which it isn’t, is deeply flawed. Any STPCV ownership conversion scenario including the words “Garodnick” and “condo” inherently excluded the word “affordable” for the vast majority of middle class STPCV residents. Additionally, you failed to include the words “Brookfield” and “Moelis” that are inextricably linked to, and doomed, the dishonest Garodnick-TA Board condo scam.
Brookfield , a major REBNY predator investing $25 Million supporting and cheerleading Speyer’s scorched earth, take-no-prisoners business plan raking in multiple billion dollar windfalls booting a historic middle class community out of our STPCV homes, did not suddenly transform into the “value sharing” white knight falsely portrayed by Garodnick-TA Board. Brookfield and the condo choice insulted middle class STPCV residents.
De Blasio may be corrupt, but he’s not stupid. He actually saw the Garodnick-TA Board-Brookfield condo plan (also separately presented to CWC and the Speyer debt holders) and recognized it for what it was; a disgraceful giveaway of multiple billion dollar windfalls to Garodnick owning REBNY predator Brookfield that betrayed and disenfranchised his STPCV neighbors/constituents. Unlike the mayor, STPCV residents were forced to deduce the Garodnick-TA Board betrayal from years of constantly being lied to, misinformed and kept ignorant in the dark about basic, substantive facts underlying their scam.
It’s now clear Garodnick-TA Board were lying to us every time they told us Mayor de Blasio was “open” to their Brookfield condo scam. Not only was de Blasio never “open” to it, at some point he correctly realized disgusted STPCV residents did not support it.
For years, Garodnick-TA Board resorted to pretending 200-300 tenant turnouts for MCI meetings or a City Hall protest against Fortress/CWC were demonstrations of tenant support for their phony Brookfield condo scam. If they actually presented STPCV residents with an honest plan that truly benefited STPCV residents instead giving EVERYTHING away to REBNY predator Brookfield, they could have and would have thousands of STPCV residents forming a ring around City Hall to support a plan that actually benefited middle class STPCV residents. But since they didn’t and had no support, they couldn’t.
As a result, the NYC Mayor had no problem offering our homes to generous REBNY/Wall Street predators rejected by Moelis and anxious for a 2nd opportunity to muscle out Garodnick-TA Board-Brookfield. All they had to do was deposit $$$$ into the mayor’s slush fund, claim support for his pre-K school agenda and whisper STPCV into his ear.
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"I can't air my views on that Facebook because I am not a member and wouldn't want to be (better things to do with my money) but I occasionally read it when it is not whited out."
I read that page on occasion. I had no idea that one had to be a member of the TA to post. Honestly, I can't believe that the TA has that many members! Are you sure about this? Who would pay this malevolent group?
"The TA is doing nothing about the discrepancy in service treatment the market raters get versus the rent stabilized. StuyTown has two tier discriminatory service. Try it. Grab a rent stabilized neighbor and make the same request for the same service and watch the rent stabilized neighbor get the runaround while the market rate get the service."
I can't agree with this statement. Real R/S tenant here. While I agree with the zeitgeist of this blog (i.e. that the property has turned into an open sewer), whenever I call for service I'm treated courteously and professionally. I always receive service in a timely manner.
Why were there 3 Bedbug trucks parked this morning inside the loop of PCVillage? near 3 Pcv and I think 4 pcv.
Yes, it is ludicrous that they are mowing dirt at 8 A.M. I was awakened by it this morning as well. So much dirt, no grass. The grounds look disgusting.
"Speaking of the TA, where were they regarding this recent case in which landlords tried to get the 0% increase (DeBlasios one good thing) overturned? Usually Dan and the TA would be loud and vocal against this, with buses and everything to show their support for the rent freeze. Guess it shows where their allegiance lies now."
I think it has been clear for a long time now that the TA no longer represents tenants. The TA represents the landlord and that is where its allegiance lies. I doubt that its membership is more than a handful of old timers and their annual dues can't amount to much. The TA gets its funding from political sources and, of course, it represents those who pay it. It works for the landlord and the politicians. We tenants have no representation whatsoever.
If you want to put names to the people who have done the most harm to PCVST, you would have to include John Marsh, Susan Steinberg, Al Doyle, Dan Garodnick, Alicia Glen and Bill DeBlasio at the top of the list.
TO BOTH: March 30, 2017 at 8:39 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
obviously Rick means to disrupt tenants. There are 10 other hours they can mow the dirt lawn. Why not at 3 pm, 4 pm, 5 pm. You all suck and you will pay for trying to get us to move.
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March 30, 2017 at 9:00 AM
You are right, that is their goal. Pushing us out to minimize their buyout costs when they reach their 2 divided parcels with one approved for clearance for demolition versus the other area containing the residential units and Chase bank branch. No wonder JP Morgan Chase PR spun the Brookfield deal as a good deal and was involved in the illegal bunker!
The Tenant Association, City Councilman and DOT just confirmed the utilities go to the red line while lying to tenants saying they were spending $200,000 on renovation / road repair. It is one lie after another lie after deceit after another deceit from them.
https://town-village.com/2016/08/16/service-roads-and-islands-around-stuyvesant-town-getting-200g-renovation/
I read that page on occasion. I had no idea that one had to be a member of the TA to post. Honestly, I can't believe that the TA has that many members! Are you sure about this? Who would pay this malevolent group? >>>
I don't think you have to be a paid-up member of the TA to post on their page, but you do have to request to be "friended" by the moderator in order to post. Anybody with a Facebook account can read the page as it is not a closed group.
This place should be renamed ShitStainTown. The property looks absolutely vile and disgusting. Blackstone is a slumlord and I don't believe that any worse a predator could have been found to buy this property.
"Why were there 3 Bedbug trucks parked this morning inside the loop of PCVillage? near 3 Pcv and I think 4 pcv."
There were 2 BB vans parked in the 14th Street loop around 4.30 PM today, opposite playground 12.
Maybe tenants try to FOIL Garodnick on the Brookfield deal like de Blasio was on his dealings. Has that been done?
HEY !!! How about cleaning up the dog shit and piss stains first!!! PRIORITIES!!!
Property Signage Overhaul Continues
As announced in December, StuyTown Property Services (SPS) is in the process of revamping and replacing signage across the property. New Building IDs have been installed and the clean look combined with high visibility has garnered much positive feedback.
Phase II of the project will begin this Monday, April 3rd, with the installation of new wayfinding signs and is expected to be completed by Saturday, April 8th. SPS is confident that these new signs will not only make the property look better but will make navigating the 80 acres of grounds easier for everyone.
Just what this place needs, more signs...
Uh, bedbugs?
They definitely should clean up all the shit before they do anything else. And start enforcing the rules!
"SPS is confident that these new signs will not only make the property look better but will make navigating the 80 acres of grounds easier for everyone."
Thanks Rick!
It's incredibly annoying constantly being stopped and asked for directions by so many hopelessly lost hotel guests wandering around the complex, always frustrated trying to contact their absent "host" via cellphone held in one hand and always dragging their wheeled luggage with the other.
It's difficult to imagine how people managed to find their way around for nearly 70 years before Rick arrived on the scene restoring stability to our community by resolving the #1 problem dragging down our QOL.
Has anyone signed up for Rick's free self defense clinics?
please POST BEDBUG ADDRESS TO REGISTRY PLEASE. HELP THE OTHERS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. PLEASE.
I think it has been clear for a long time now that the TA no longer represents tenants. The TA represents the landlord and that is where its allegiance lies. I doubt that its membership is more than a handful of old timers and their annual dues can't amount to much. The TA gets its funding from political sources and, of course, it represents those who pay it. It works for the landlord and the politicians. We tenants have no representation whatsoever.
March 30, 2017 at 11:47 AM
I have to give this an Amen!
10:39 AM: LOL! Well said! I had a couple, rolling luggage in tow, come up to my apartment thinking that they were going to stay for the weekend! They were in the wrong building. I told them to go back downstairs and call PS, who would surely direct them to their hotel. I felt a little bit sorry for them because they looked tired. I hope PS "outed" their host.
"This place should be renamed ShitStainTown. The property looks absolutely vile and disgusting. Blackstone is a slumlord and I don't believe that any worse a predator could have been found to buy this property."
Obviously, this is an incorrect statement. Blackstone was vetted by both Dan Garodnick as well as the TA. If your supposition was correct, they never would have approved the deal.
They get a rent freeze and they find loopholes, been planning for years, MCI, charges for Air Conditioner, water up next, then MCI, then electric. Landlord won't back down, they always win in New York
March 31, 2017 at 8:27 PM PS probably gave them a welcome basket
Why don't you tenants learn how to clean up after yourselfs and stop being filthy pigs. Dog shit , complaining about golf carts bike etc
5:07
no dear, this is the point. people coming in FROM OUTSIDE, walking their dogs without lanyards, leaving their dogshit around. riding their fatasses around on golf carts--that's not tenants. speeding their bikes where they are not supposed to be--these are delivery boys. not tenants.
do you understand now? that's a special, detailed explanation for the slow witted who are reading here.
Re: 3/30 - lawnmowers at 8Am
A few years back we used to have the carts picking up garbage at 12Am with all the accompanying noise. I called the head of ?Landscaping and it was changed to daytime pick ups.
Re: blasting music at 3Am. PS should have put a stop to that and if not the 13th Pct. Don't just suffer in silence. Do something and confront your neighbors directly even though it's against the "rules." BTW: Getting a petition from the other neighbors up/down across might be something to do it they continue.
Last week-end (3) young women coming from outside the community stopped me to ask where the Stuyvesant Town "garden" was!!
I told them there is no garden, there's an Oval but almost didn't tell them at all. It's maddening .
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