Our landlord, BLACKSTONE, can't handle Stuy Town and Peter Cooper Village. There is a lack of enforcement of certain "rules," and no amount of notice to this alleviates the problems. We are continually being told half-truths and fabrications. And we have no viable Tenants organization, despite our TA asking for dues all the time. So far, the politicians have proven to be basically useless. A typical New York story.
Friday, June 2, 2017
Variety is the Spice of Life - Part 2
I was very tempted to title this differently, but you get the picture. More coming later or tomorrow.
When I hear people say we don't live in a slum...well, take a look. The rents can be high, people's skin color is different, but...
And I have been in other areas of the city. And I have taken photos. Some very nice ones, too. Of course, if you compare this place to a couple of apartment complexes in the Lower East Side...that's not the comparison you should be making. Aside from our grounds that have a good amount of greenery (now, but far less beautiful than before) what have we--if we are paying the good money being asked?
It doesn't have to be this way, but it is. The photos do not lie.
I went up to the 10th floor of my building the other day to deliver some mail that had been put in my mailbox by our lazy, stupid letter miscarrier. As soon as I got off the elevator, I was hit in the face by the putrid stench of stale dog piss. The projects are BETTER than StyTown!.
What a fucking shit-hole! Anybody who pays top dollar to live here is fucking crazy! I have no problem with Section 8 people living here because they are simply poor and they are not taking any money from my pocket or food from my table. If the City wants to pay Blackstone to take them in, then why not? They are better than all the screeching students. But how anybody in their right mind (which they obviously are not) can pay $3k+ to live in this rundown slum is beyond me. They should be embarrassed.
I won't let my children use these bathrooms alone. Both the men and women's rooms are around a sketchy corner. And why is the hallway so dark. These are not true residents facilities. They're for the workers and delivery people. I'll take my kids back to the apartment.
Again, it doesn't have to be this way. Blackstone, spend some money. Fuck newer "amenities"! Stop it with the predicable real estate BS. If this or that worker is not doing his/her job, fire them or get them out of their position. I repeat: it doesn't have to be this way! The fact that it IS that way, indicates that you don't really care, but only for the rental numbers. That should not be the priority. Making this place work is the way to have this complex become truly successful.
And where is the TA on all this? Why must I, a private resident of Stuy Town, present these photos? Why is the TA not doing this? Why is the TA not approaching the Management?
The TA is now obviously an arm of management. When you respond to resident complaints with "e-mail Rick Hayduk" that says it all. When they post on their site, it is either an inane update or an excuse for Blackstone. That is why I stopped paying my dues, they no longer represent us.
This is really bad. No amount of PR can cover this up. Thank you STR for telling it like it is. The NY Times has been untruthful and deceitful about this complex.
BTW, that shot inside the men's bathroom... Number four of the series, I believe. Well, that toilet paper holder has never been fixed. For years I've seen it loose.
>>In all fairness, the old bathrooms next to the Rec Dept office were pretty grimy too.<<
Hey, do you remember the guy who used to hang around the old bathrooms, smoking his cigar?
At least then residents were not paying top dollar to live here and no Ikea furnishings that break down in the bathroom--very easily I must say. They look pretty, for a couple of months.
The candy machines are in the bathroom! Eew! Something very unwholesome about that! All those shitty hands all over the machine. I thought those photographs were in the laundry rooms. I wonder if that is a violation of the Health Code? Are they hoping for a massive E-coli outbreak?
Most of the mess and filth is caused by the tenants, not Management, but the latter does a very poor job of cleaning up after the dirty tenants.
Management never misses the opportunity to make a buck off of tenants. I can't believe they have candy machines in the lavatories - dirty lavatories, at that. That is so gross. No wonder Oval Cafe was closed down by the Health Department recently. The standard of hygiene set by Management is appalling.
Here is prime space for affordable housing using eminent domain. They can turn this into 70 500sq ft units plus whatever the air rights would build. They could demolish it and build a whole new tower of affordable housing on the space with thousands of affordable homes. Instead this Mayor uses eminent domain pushing lower and middle income citizens out in Brooklyn to build Russian financed Barclay center for his developer friend, erases park-space-playground open space in lower, middle income communities for developers to build majority-luxury-unit towers, and allows this single family mcmansion to be used for the puffy-faced wealthy to recuperate during plastic surgery. Where are the Mayor's priorities? Planted squarely on his pulled-stretched-plumped-frozen-faced wealthy friends getting wealthier and looking more like Batman's Joker versus looking like younger versions of themselves. But this Mayor is not interested in solving the housing problem or solving any problems. He is using these problems to enrich his friends. Landlords know the system is rigged to solve nothing while making themselves richer and garnering headlines for politicians. Politicians love headlines. Landlords know and exploit that there is a lot of money to be easily made in shelters and section 8 programs and that politicians love headlines on numbers-of-housing-units. This Mayor must have created a few dozens headlines for himself on his Housing programs. We got your number Mr Mayor and we are not buying what you are selling.
Still the joke is on the lower and middle class who voted for this Mayor. Section 8 Housing is a cash cow for landlords to get richer off taxpayer dollars by inflating rents, offering low-level services and defrauding Public funds.
The level of service for tenants is divided by what type of apartment you have.
There is a lot of dirty money deals in Section 8 housing programs which are not solving the housing problem but the programs sure are making the landlords and shelter owners richer. Section 8 is either a full blown scam or a vulnerable program being exploited by corrupt officials and landlords.
@9:54 AM: Are you talking about DeBlasio? Sounds more like Bloomberg. Barclay Center was his baby, as well as all the other schemes and scams you mention.
There's a special place in Hell for these greedy bastard real estate brokers. Below is a segment of a piece in DNA about the incoming Trader Joe's and Target:
""We're concerned about those big box stores as well as the tech hub, especially that combination of things coming to the neighborhood, especially sort of all at the same time," said Carol Crump. "It makes it really hard to keep the things that are unique and that people love about the East Village, especially for the mom-and-pop stores — it most likely obliterates so many of them."
Those dealing in the area's real estate say the arrival of those stores will likely change the character of the retail landscape, with one benefit being that it could make the neighborhood more desirable and drive up prices to live near those amenities, said a real estate agent who hawks East Village properties.
"As they build out these big box stores it's going to set a price floor — nothing will be cheaper than X because you have these amenities," said Alex Prose of Modern Residential. "Even if the apartment is terrible people are still going to be willing to live in it because of the way the neighborhood is fabricated...As the retail comes, the demand for housing in that neighborhood will stay steady but also you’ll see prices rise because those amenities will be attractive to tenants.""
Incredibly biased article in the NY Times real estate section. I am sure that it was planted by PR from Blackstone. A family raving about this dump and paying over 5 grand . Makes the place seem like Central Park West. Kudos to the inept TA for sharing that bogus piece of crap journalism.
Another NY Times PCVST puff piece. Does Blackstone/SPS just write this crap themselves?
"Ms. Carey nodded. “After I visited a few times, I just kept thinking, ‘This is incredible.’ We love the apartment. We love the community. After we moved in, there was just more and more: the Easter egg hunt, the farmers’ market, summer movies.”
“They even have an ice-skating rink,” Mr. Carey said.
“We feel like we live in a park,” Ms. Carey said.
Nothing is mentioned about the reality of the Dorm/AirBnb/Dog S**t-P**s dump that it has now become where QOL lease regs are never enforced.
I get the feeling that some of those pollyanna posters on the TA site are living in a different place than I am. They just keep praising and praising this dump.
Tells you what the NY Times is about. At least that section. Blackstone is overjoyed at this article and will use it.
BTW, I'm seeing more and more people heading here for AirBnB STPCV apartments and looking as if they exited first from the "prison gym" at Asser Levy. Actually, I'm insulting the prison gym probably, because these types you don't want entering your building. Rough looking. Very little luggage, too.
Sabrina Mollot or whatever the fuck her name is at the Town and Village needs to do her due diligence and find out what the hell is the connection at the New York Times between them and Blackstone. The NYT OBVIOUSLY has a financial stake in the success of Blackstone's slum lord rental program. And they are also cheerleading for diBlasio's slumlord expansion program that allowed Blackstone to profit on this dump.
This is disgusting, immoral, poor journalism and seriously in need of exposure. If there's some connection to DiBlasio as well, that's even worse. NYT pretends to be serious unbiased journalism. Bullshit. someone needs to blow the lid off this.
At least there is actual journalism going on at, of all places, NY Mag.
For those inclined, I would encourage them to write to the Times and tell it like it really is. See if they publish any letters. The attempted rapes and assaults, the forced gentrification, the poor grounds and building conditions, the bad will between loud and quiet neighbors, etc etc etc ad infinitum.
Stuy Town Reporter said... Tells you what the NY Times is about. At least that section. Blackstone is overjoyed at this article and will use it."
I'm gonna make an educated inference here and say they aren't just "using" it, they financed it and campaigned for that article. Shame on the New York Times. Shitty journalism and shitty ethics there.
"Atomic Man said... In all fairness, the old bathrooms next to the Rec Dept office were pretty grimy too."
From what I recall, and this is way back, those weren't actually public bathrooms. They were office bathrooms, but if kid showed up and asked nicely and was in dire need, they'd let the kid use the office bathroom.
There was no need for public bathrooms back then because "the public" didn't flock to Stuyvesant town to use the grounds. Most people lived here and were minutes away from their own bathroom.
I'm not calling for locked gates, but when 60% of the people on the grounds are from outside, it gets REALLY. FUCKING. CROWDED. and dirty. and more trash on the grounds, and more dogshit and more bike traffic. And quality of life goes to shit.
This isn't rocket science. Obviously, things are getting worse here when they try to make it a fucking tourist destination.
That article in the NYT had to be promoted by Blackstone PR. It is indeed sickening that it gives such a stilted view of the QOL here and such a positive spin on the Blackstone charade. What is even more sickening is the TA website ,on which the pollyannas gather round to support the article and give this dump kudos.
But the reality is who is moving into manhattan these days? Not families - too expensive. Kids, kids, more kids, kids. Kids dont live alone, you pack em in 4 and five with one bathroom. Pretty gross actually.
No, they were definitely "public" bathrooms. Very useful for filling up water balloons. But you're correct in the fact they were de facto "residents only" because there weren't outsiders roaming the grounds. In fact, it wasn't necessary to put those bathrooms on a parents "beware" list for their kids. We lived in an oasis.
ever notice how Rick from Foriduh kisses the asses of all the employees here? Overheard him many times, watched him.. dont' matter if they're on their cellphones, running folks over with the clown car or siting around not working smoking and watching loud XX on cellphones. He says nothing, smiles, waves, does nothing. they curse, they complain, they sit around.
The most hilarious aspect of this propaganda puff piece planted in the Times is both the husband and wife are P.R. lobbyists quoting Blackstone talking points verbatim. The article is just another piece of the ongoing Blackstone produced "PCVST is Shangri-La Again" campaign theme orchestrated by P.R. lobbyists, written by P.R. lobbyists, about P.R. lobbyists fed to compliant unquestioning news media by P.R. lobbyists.
wow-- that facebook TA page "discussion" about the NYT article. it is unbelievable how some tenants appear to have their heads straight up the asses of their slumlord and owner. I had no idea; apparently Heydick doesn't need to kiss their asses as they are already kissing his, what is wrong with these people? they don't even sound like adults, they sound like they have the critical thinking skills of a five year old. daddy is good to us, we should be grateful that he is letting us pay 5200 a month to live here!
I don't have a facebook account and doubt I am able to mention names here? but without mentioning names, that bitch who keeps telling everyone to be grateful and "stop whining" and that other bitch who keeps railing against the rent stabilized tenants with "secret assets" who are not really supposed to be here-- I never heard such a delusional bunch of fools, sounds like they want to get down on their knees in front of the Heydick and just suck right up.
no one should "complain" about the conditions here and in the same breath they're bitching about how all the market rate tenants are evil profiteers. You can suck *it*, ladies, we RS tenants are not going anywhere.
A couple of notes, there seems to be an abundance of kids/families here, not the larger long term families thought. I find using those brown port-a-potties in the loops a lot more cleaner than the Oval restrooms. I just don't understand why they are not out every day? Between workers, sub-contractors, and middle management there does appear a resentment towards tenants walking the sidewalks like we are at a construction site. Each loop is virtually littered with some raw material "loading dock" . That said I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
>>The most hilarious aspect of this propaganda puff piece planted in the Times is both the husband and wife are P.R. lobbyists quoting Blackstone talking points verbatim. The article is just another piece of the ongoing Blackstone produced "PCVST is Shangri-La Again" campaign theme orchestrated by P.R. lobbyists, written by P.R. lobbyists, about P.R. lobbyists fed to compliant unquestioning news media by P.R. lobbyists.<<
I did a quick check, which the Times may and should have done, and unless I'm incorrect the working identity of these two is amazing. Blackstone's picture perfect demographic!
Whenever the subject gets round to whether or not PCVST is a "project" or "luxury housing" the moderator always shuts down the discussion. They probably are instructed by management to do so.
I suspect that the tenants who are telling people (usually real RS tenants) to shut up and stop whining are those pseudo-RS tenants (i.e. MR) who are chagrined that they are paying through the nose to live here and they really resent the fact that the "old timers" have rents so much lower than theirs. Some even have SCRIE or DRIE! The Nerve! Surely those people should be put out on the street to beg with a bowl? Really!
The bitch who is always having a dig at "old timers" with succession rights for their kids (and money in Swiss bank accounts ;-)) and their own Mar-A-Largos to go to in winter and country estates in summer, has written a couple of nasty comments in T&V about "old biddies, clipping coupons and passing on their apartments to their undeserving kids." Jealousy is ugly and makes people ugly and that is why so many of the MR folk (not all, but definitely some who post on the TA facebook page) absolutely cannot tolerate any criticism of the property by the folks who have been here forever. It makes them feel embarrassed and stupid that they are paying through the nose to put up with what we have to put up with for a much lower rent.
Another thing, those vindictive MR ladies did not live here when the place really was a great bargain and a place to thank God for. Before the destruction/construction/dormification and dogs. Not to mention that the pathways were peaceful and bicycle-free and there was no incessant, grating noise from construction inside and outside. The most raucous noise we heard were when a couple of squirrels got into a fight in the trees around the buildings. Btw, those trees were carefully planted to hide the absolute ugliness of the buildings.
Extract of one of the comments made by an RS-resenter:
"As for having money to burn - for all the folks who really need rent control or rent stabilization, there are plenty of other 'old families' here who enjoy cheap rents, and have beaucoups bucks to burn, and own one (or more) properties elsewhere. And who can afford to renovate their own apartments while hiding it from the landlord. It's too bad that the Rent Stabilization laws weren't tighter, and didn't at least check folks' assets. Too bad that people could 'pass on' apartments that they did not own, by playing with the 'two-year' requirement, some even 'saving' empty apartments for their kids. We all know neighbors like these. Not saying that certain needs are justified, but that some people abuse the rules for their own benefit. Too bad that Met Life officers could get apartments in PCV, whether they needed to or not (yes, I read 'the' book and know about the Roberts case). This place is not a retirement community - it should be more vibrant, with all sorts of folks living here. The unruly and unkempt students are an issue for everyone, regardless of where you live in Manhattan."
She says they can afford to renovate their own apartments while hiding it from the landlord. No way! You cannot do any major renovations without the landlord knowing! Maybe she means that they keep their apartments clean and nicely furnished and spend a little of their own, hard-earned money on their apartments. As for hiding empty apartments. No way. How does she know (or thinks she knows) so much about RS tenants? Does she go sneaking around? Do the RS tenants invite her in and tell her all their business? They'd have to be stupid to let that old crab over their doorsteps. Maybe she listens to gossip in her building. Whatever the story is, she is barking up the wrong tree and should just shut the fuck up.
Even better, 6 parental funded NYU students in a 3 bedroom "flex" apartment. Gone in 6 months to a year, max. Churn, baby, churn. Sunday, I was in the Sty elevator with 7 of them, newly arrived for the season. The vocal fry was killing me, every other word was "like", they had no idea of what "T" or "M" stood for.
This Deputy Mayor comes up a lot in seriously questionable acts by the mayors office. Just when you think his relationships with real estate are really bad, it keeps getting worse. How did he escape indictment from the state and federal probes?
My first reaction to seeing Stuy Town was mortified depression. This is because the buildings do look like projects. It was only when I was inside that my opinion started to change. This happened years ago, btw. Today I can't picture the rents being asked of people. PS was much, much better years ago, too. Now it seems PS does not care, unless you go right by them with an infraction. And for some infractions, they walk away or look the other way.
@1:59 PM: The sooner De Blasio and his entire sleazy crew are gone, the better. He has as much hubris as Bloomberg and just as little accountability. The lobbying firm that is getting him the dirty bucks, Constantinople and Vallone, does that have anything to do with Peter Vallone, a speaker a few terms ago, and his sleazy son?
I am a life-long Dem, but I think I may have to vote Repug or Ind in the future City elections.
Everyone should e-mail or write to the NYTimes concerning the veracity of that article praising this dump. I did send an e-mail. As for the TA site, those women are disgusting, always on the attack if you criticize management. I think that they talk to good old Rick all the time and he ropes them in.
Let's face it and call it what it is. We have absolute shit renting here now in the form of transients, students and the endless AirBnB procession in and out. The market rate people, paying through the nose, can bitch and squawk all they like because they don't want because they don't like to face reality, but with the piss and shit all over the place (dog and human), lack of protection by Public Safety and lack of interest by Management when it comes to enforcing the QOL rules, this place is a slum. It is no better than the projects. I've been in apartments in NYCHA projects and they were pretty spacious and nice. Some were suffering maintenance issues due to the lazy and inept management; some were very well kept. The buildings were not any dirtier or scruffier than those in the Sty.
If you want to pay $3.5k per month for a project apartment with a dishwasher, go ahead. These apartments, renovated or not, are not worth anything near what they go for. They are old, have decaying plumbling, no soundproofing and not any better put together or maintained than the NYCHA houses. I don't care because I pay a low rent, but if I could afford to pay what the MR people pay, I would be out of here in a flash.
The TA knows this and that is why they have minimal membership and minimal impact on this slumlord landlord.
Anonymous @ June 5, 2017 at 5:41 PM said... "Again, your letting your minions name call. Sad."
What's this? A weak attempt to mimic an insulting Trump Tweet?
STR touched a raw nerve somewhere. We've seen Garodnick-TA Board now joined by Blackstone deploy lobbyist trolls attacking this blog and comment posters for years.
It seems to be raining or close to it, but there is a lawnmower outside that is making an awful and very loud racket. And now, this lawnmower appears to be broken, but the worker still insists on mowing the lawn!
Aren't you guys just trying to make stuy great again? There's no room for other opinions, women are referred to in the crudest terms, and you spend all your time spewing how it's us not them that belongs here.
I suggest the moderator sell red caps so you all know who to trust when you venture out into the sun.
Now that the politicians took a lot of $$$ from Verizon to push Fios on us and our intercoms are Fios, who is regulating the data collected by the intercoms tracking our visitors, guests, deliveries, occupants and what are they doing with it other than tracking and harassing rent stabilized tenants?
This is now getting creepy. Verizon is supposed to have privacy policies protecting customers but the intercoms are property of the landlord while the visitors to our homes is supposed to be our private business.
Who is supposed to pass laws protecting our privacy when landlords install data collecting intercoms on who we have visit us in our homes? Is Verizon donating millions to federal, state electeds to bribe them into foregoing passing laws to protect our 4th Amendment Right of Privacy so creepy landlords can access private, personal information? Does anyone else think this is creepy that McClellan tracks this data on each and every person visiting, delivery, where we eat, who we are friends with, who we know, all personal information? Who is accessing this data, what are they using it for when we know they are not using it to catch Airbnb hotel guests so what, they are using it to creep on tenants?
Serious questions are begging for answers. What data is being collected? What data is being stored? Where is the data stored? Who has access to the data? What regulations oversee use of the data? What laws protect from misuse and abuse of the data? How is the data being used? Are guests, friends, family who visit then subject to landlord tricks of background checks, invasions of their privacy? Is the data stored on the internet? Is the data stored on public access, law enforcement access, other private citizens access eg landlord investors, fixers? Do tenants have rights to monitor, see all data landlord is collecting that is none of their gosh damn business?
Which of these politicians who took payouts from Verizon Fios passed any protection laws for citizens when Verizon Fios began installing home intercoms in tenants apartments?
DeBlasio deals with developers is if they include minimal affordable housing then deBlasio will upzone the property to increase the developers profits. While some city councilpersons are pushing back on DeBlasio's land giveaways, our councilperson sided with developers which means this Peter Cooper and Stuyvesant Town land has been rezoned and that must be recorded somewhere on the city websites.
"Political and community opposition has derailed several projects seeking to make use of MIH, a signature policy from Mayor Bill de Blasio that requires developers to include affordable housing at projects in exchange for increased zoning rights on their sites."
The politicians can't seriously be asking us to put our necks out as activists after betraying us every day since Tishman Speyer BlackRock Brookfield Blackstone took over the property, took over the mayors office, took over the city council, took over the attorney general office (who personally thanked Rob Speyer for providing the attorney general's Chief Operating Officer in 2010) and the governors office and now we all learn that the lawyer defending Kushner is a democrat political power player.
Fool us once, shame on us. Fool us twice, shame on you.
We know they are all working with each other on the real estate deals and that Kushner will get off with nary a slap on the wrist if anything at all because they see themselves as members of an elite club who are above the law and all the rest of us are screwed by their rigged laws.
The Democratic Power Lawyer Defending Kushner
"If Hillary Clinton were president right now, Jamie Gorelick might have been her attorney general.
Instead, Gorelick — a Democratic power player who served as deputy attorney general under Bill Clinton and raised more than $100,000 for Hillary in 2016 — could wind up serving as Jared Kushner’s savior.
Gorelick, as you may have noticed from any number of recent news reports, is Kushner’s lawyer. And Kushner, as you may have also noticed, is someone who is going to be spending a lot of time talking to his lawyer over the next several months."
>>While some city councilpersons are pushing back on DeBlasio's land giveaways, our councilperson sided with developers which means this Peter Cooper and Stuyvesant Town land has been rezoned and that must be recorded somewhere on the city websites.<<
I think it is on record that Garodnick is in favor of rezoning. Not getting things smaller, but getting things bigger.
Ha! You can call me any name in the book, just say it to my face. The shit here smells like MRAs. They can't use their FB accounts because they would called out on. Always nice for the sad and lonely to have a place to hide.
11:01 AM, sorry but you sound very paranoid. I don't think the intercoms gather data and I don't think that Chief McLellan does, either. In fact, I don't think Chief McLellan gathers anything other than an oversized paycheck.
June 6, 2017 at 10:44 AM um, your landlord works with Trump and has a lot of business deals with Trump, Bayrock, and Kushner including keeping an office at Kushner buildings. This blog does not sound like Trump at all. In fact it is the furthest thing from Trump but your landlord just got billions from Saudi's courtesy of Trump which by your thinking means that Management and Security are the red hat wearers.
June 6, 2017 at 5:18 PM Of course the intercoms gather data, they are digital. 5:18 makes good points especially when your landlord likes to bully you by challenging residency and your tenant association gives bad advice to turn over all your private information to your landlord. You are entitled to ask for data gathering policy and practices.
No rezoning required until demolition for towers. Guess 10-15 years. Planning probably very quietly commenced already. Speyer should be involved in a major way claiming a magnificent comeback victory successfully realizing his original PCVST vision after he so miserably failed here previously.
How did Speyer get his 2nd chance to destroy our historic middle class community and our homes again? Who gave him that incredible opportunity? Tell us Dan. Tell the truth and stop claiming the ongoing destruction of our community and pending demolition of our homes is somehow a historic middle class victory.
5:08 Is that you Susan? Dan? What would we get called out on on Facebook?
STR provides facts with photographs. We post based on those facts. Sure there are some outrageous claims made on this blog, but I see through the BS posts and take all the information in that I can.
Inaccurate statement hypocritically said by "Anonymous" to male false character attacks because their outargued by the truth on STR:
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ha! You can call me any name in the book, just say it to my face. The shit here smells like MRAs. They can't use their FB accounts because they would called out on. Always nice for the sad and lonely to have a place to hide.
A construction worker died after falling several stories when the platform he was on collapsed at a work site in Hudson Yards Monday night, officials said.
The 62-year-old hardhat was standing on wooden planks on the 16th floor at 401 Ninth Ave. near 33rd Street when they gave way and he plummeted down to the sixth floor, cops said.
He was pronounced dead at the scene.
The site is slated to be a skyscraper called 1 Manhattan West as part of a large-scale real-estate development program by Brookfield Property Partners, with a projected completion in 2020.
Quality of Life is in the Crapper since they began turning the East and West village into dorms with crime and rapes sky high. Nice going City Hall and City Council. Your poorly zoned spaces, sell-out to developers, and over granting of liquor license is increasing the number of rapes and danger to the point people say they cannot go out at night and these people are the 20 year old women who should be kept safe on real dorm campuses and not dormified city buildings.
Pure Greed by Politicians
"Hell Square boasts the highest density of on-premise liquor licenses (OPLL) compared to any other neighborhood across New York C ity’s five boroughs. After the November 2008 rezoning of the Lower East Side by the Department of City Planning, there was a stark increase in average rents and the number of approved on-premise liquor licenses (Cazentre, 2017). A New York State policy that streamlines liquor license applications and the expansion of nightlife options in the area acted as a vehicle for economic development, spurring much of the rezoning and gentrification in the neighborhood, which has been called an “entertainment zone” by residents and lawmakers alike . These strategies have demonstrated little regard for the existing community and instead overwhelmingly favor profit-making establishments, largely bars, clubs, and restaurants (New York State Liquor Authority, 2013). Visible and measurable effects include increased crime, serious public health and safety issues, and a general decrease in quality of life."
Being practical but i think this is manhattan and much of nyc now. Exorbitant pricing has fucked average people from moving in, staying and families, artists , average MC.
the only customers Blackstone can find are students now willing to split a one bedroom 3 ways and their parents pay the rent. Business and retail is shit now too, only annoying dull retailers like cvs and chains can manage.
Interesting enough while walking my dog around the Oval, I was approached by 2 older men that requested the use of my card to access the bathrooms. I refused, was I wrong? Does this happen frequently? With the speculation of the card readers gathering information, it's the last place I want to be connected to.
Can we get transparency from the TA on the different types of market rate units? We know Tishman Speyer BlackRock aggressively pushed out rent stabilized permanent tenants to replace them with different types of market rate renters. We all know the market rate units were not performing causing the downgrading of the property for Tishman Speyer BlackRock Investors.
What are the different types of converted Market Rate Units?
Which are underperforming? overperforming?
Who or What is renting the underperforming and the overperforming market rate units?
How big a portion of the converted units are families? corporations? hospitals? universities? Surely the underperforming and least desirable tenants are the families and the most desired are the corporations, universities, hospitals.
$5.4 Billion Multifamily Purchase Slow To Meet Expectations
It's been almost two years since Tishman Speyer's/Blackrock Realty's paid a jaw-dropping $5.4 billion for the Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village property, Manhattan's largest apartment community at 11,227 units.
And the latest indications are, the purchase hasn't yet lived up to its expectations.
Standard & Poor's Ratings Services last week lowered its ratings on 22 classes of commercial mortgage-backed securities (CMBS) that hold debt tied to the property.
The primary driver for S&P's downgrades is a reduction in the estimated value of the 10.2 million-square-foot complex on the East Side, which has declined 10% since its purchase, according to S&P.
S&P's revaluation of the property incorporated the borrower's Dec. 31, 2007, and June 30, 2008, financial statements, the August 2008 rent roll, current market occupancy and rental rate information, and estimates for conversion costs and recapture rates.
The drivers of the valuation decline include the following.
Normalized operating expenses that are 11% higher than anticipated at issuance. Utilities, advertising, and marketing have been the main contributors to the increased expense.
The costs associated with converting rent-controlled units into market-rent units have been 11% higher then anticipated.
The number of units that have been converted to market-rent units has been within expected range; however, the composition of the converted units has not been evenly distributed between the various unit types at the properties. Therefore, average rental income at the rent-controlled units is 10% lower than anticipated.
>>Interesting enough while walking my dog around the Oval, I was approached by 2 older men that requested the use of my card to access the bathrooms. I refused, was I wrong? Does this happen frequently? With the speculation of the card readers gathering information, it's the last place I want to be connected to.<<
You were not wrong at all. Point them to the PS office.
Just from viewing the activity at the Cafe, I would say they are losing business. A lot of people just want to use WIFI and sit around with their one cup of coffee. The business is going to have to respond some way and booze is the way to go.
Reminds me that they have no way of telling if the requests for coffee or anything else is "for residents and their guests".... Wink-wink, as always.
June 8, 2017 at 9:00 AM you were right to do that. Property Managers use employed people to try to get residents to use keycards to access to private places to set those tenants up for eviction as "danger" to the community. It is a sleazy property manager scam to disparage your standing in the community and damage your ability to rent anywhere else. DO NOT LET ANYONE USE YOUR KEYCARDS!
As to a census of market rate units, the TA will never get into it. Just look around you. the market rate units are dorm, dorm, dorm and all sorts of airbnb type rentals. In addition there is Section 8. Families and professionals are few and far between. Why would the TA expose Blackstone!
Drinking age in New York is 21 Parents may not like seeing photos and videos of drunken underage StuyTown campus if it is even allowed for a university campus to have alcohol-serving-bars on private dorm property.
Walking home to my apt. last night. Nice big pile of shit in front of cafe. Piss all over the piss walls around the cafe and study. Didn't Rick Hayduck say that there was to be no pissing ON buildings in the sty?
Overheard in elevator: Two young guys with humungous dog: "Do you have someone for your place this summer?" "Yeah, got two sublletters for the place."
No wonder this is a shitshow. Management doesn't know or care who lives here just so long as the rent is paid and we have no idea who are neighbors are. The only people that Management keeps an eye on are the longtime elderly tenants who are real RS. Those people they watch for signs of impending death. They drool as they see an older person slowing down or looking ill.
If Five Stuy is looking to get a liquor license I fully expect the TA to put up a fight, as they did with Chipotle. Oh wait, that would mean going against Rick and management, so we know that would never happen.
Their whole Associated facade is just that, a facade. They know exactly what management has planned, so they can come across as fighters. I think any realist knows Associated doesn't stand a chance...
I had to read the NY Times bullshit article several times simply to wrap my head around the fact that there is someone stupid enough to pay over 5 grand a month for a two bedroom in ST. Now I get why those people on the TA blog defend themselves so strongly. I mean if I paid anywhere near that amount I would be a fool (by my own admission) and I would feel the need to BS to try and get people to stop calling me an idiot. Sorry to make them feel even dumber but what they pay is almost double what I pay for rent on my real 2 bedroom, my garage space and my mortgage combined. The TA nuts would call me greedy but since I am not wealthy I simply call it smart, especially since I bought the house as an investment in 2008 and it has nearly doubled in value since I bought it! So, to recap, I get to leave ST on the weekends and hang at the lake while making money and paying less than half what MR idiots pay. Sorry you're so stupid that you make poor economic decisions and then try to blame everyone else because you are so...well, stupid. Major fail!
Target and Traders Joe are opening in 2018 at Essex Crossing and 14th street here and all over the city. Serious kickbacks must be in play for this unprecedented and prime, retail expansion.
DO NOT EAT AT THE 5 TURD STUYVESANT OVAL CAFE. My husband and I had one of their "artisanal" treats and, lo and behold, we both had a severe case of the Hershey Squirts. Just another "amenity", eh, Rick?
I like it when QOL issues come up on the TA FB page, and Peter Stuyvesant is nowhere to be seen (playground 7 construction). These should be battles being fought by a normal TA, but our TA is probably the most incompetent TA in the country.
Yes, anytime a QOL issue appears on their site, the TA ignores it. They stick to safe and often inane topics. Shows what they are all about. What a joke they are.
A letter from the TA stating what? That if we don't mail in their form that we will be on our own when it comes to MCI "battles" versus the landlord? I don't need to pay $50 to be on the losing side either way!
If you do decide to put a link to the city council districts on the left column front page here is a really good blog with truths about the city council.
7:05 AM, our so-called TA is not so much incompetent as it is in collusion with the Management that is harassing us with the never-ending noise, churning and generally substandard qualify of life.
I don't know what they get out of it, but it sure as hell is nothing that benefits us.
June 9, 2017 at 7:54 AM and June 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM Haven't we seen this PR maneuver before? This TA letter is like a councilman letter on the bunker. The TA letter is to make the TA appear like they strong-arm muscled the property services but more likely the property services knows they will lose money and risk bad pr with an empty storefront during the months it takes to get anyone to lease a space across from Target / Trader Joes. The letter is likely a PR ploy to get the TA to look like a strong hero and to help the property services save face by giving Associated a year or two slow death extension. It is the same PR stunts from these folks who share the same PR firm, de Blasio's "Agent of the City" Berlin Rosen.
There's been "some talk" about Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village over at the TA site on whether the complex should be considered, historically, public housing, so a trip down memory lane....
STR, it's a slummy ole project! Packing it with students has not raised the tone one little bit. It used to be a nice, safe, middle-class residential complex and a true Oasis in The City. Not now. Now, it is a shit-n-piss splattered dorm dump and everybody from outside has access and brings their dogs (and maybe even themselves if they're loaded) to relieve themselves. It bears very little resemblance to the place it used to be and has gone down the toilet. Of course, I don't have to tell you that. You know already.
How fast Architectural treasure Stuyvesant Town Peter Cooper village goes form seeking Landmark Status to "Public Housing" following a mortgage shell game.
Stuy Town and Peter Cooper Village were once the envy of many because the rents here were inexpensive and the community worked. Now, because of the dollar sign and the necessary desire to make more and more, we have lost what we had. It was a "housing" complex but well-run and the residents were generally well-behaved. It now has turned to something else, and even affected negatively many of our "old-timers." Residents new and some of the old accept the downgrade, and some consider it an upgrade. But look around. It's never been this bad. And fuck the amenities.
Right on, STR! They can stick the "amenities" up their asses! They are not really amenities, but desperate ploys to pull in more dollars. Anyone would think that Blackstone/Tishman Speyer were in desperate financial need. They are just pikers, grifters and the lowest form of life on the planet. May they rot in hell.
The Crusties are here. Filthy slobs with dogs hanging out in front of our buildings on 14th Street. Just be careful of them. I threatened a couple of them with calling the cops tonight. They moved away, but not without telling me how wrong I was to judge them. Hey! You are fucking in plain sight on the street and taking drugs and have a couple of hungry and angry dogs, you are not up to anything good. Where is "Public Safety?" Why aren't these people being chased away or turned in to the cops?
What amenities STR, those amenities that they use to entice renters are pure crap. Some of them, such as the concerts are actually annoyances. I cannot believe that they are advertised as "amenities".
12:18 I spoke with someone who had a similar experience last week on 14th, with drug addicts hanging around and shooting drugs in plain sight ON OUR PROPERTY! She called the cops (didn't even bother with PS), but the group dispersed before the cops got there.
The SLA is out of control with liquor licensing practices coincidentally politician's spouses and pal's have big money liquor contracts. Politicians making money,liquor companies making money, quality of life for constituents range from serious quality of life problems to dangerous criminal activity sharply increasing.
Again, this morning I am a witness to so many infractions of the "rules," that by now I can consider the people representing Blackstone typical BS-ers. Yeah, there has been some noticeable PS presence around the Oval, but unless you are on a riding bicycle and pass by a PS officer, nothing will be said.
As for lanyards and Rick's second warning--forget about it!
Property Managers use employed people to try to get residents to use keycards to access to private places to set those tenants up for eviction as "danger" to the community.
Of all the tin foil hat conspiracies, that takes the cake. Do you really think that would stand up in Housing Court? That a judge would actually evict a tenant for letting an old man into the bathroom?
Atomic Man do you have any idea who you are dealing with when it comes to some certain landlords and property managers? If you give your keycard to that "old man" who then goes into the bathroom to deal drugs, do drugs, perform lewd acts, does any damage to the property in the bathroom, or commits any crimes then the person who gave them keycard access is on the hook. Do you really think your landlord wouldn't file a criminal complaint against the tenant or initiate a civil case for damages? Do you think landlords would bother with housing court when they can file criminal charges or easily go after tenants for thousands of dollars in gebbia small claims court or whatever court takes bigger claims? Would you put it past the security system to not catch the "old man" because the ten minutes he was on the property they were doing whatever they do when ten minute crimes are committed when they have your keycard as proof of your part in what happened?
Ha! You can call me any name in the book, just say it to my face. The shit here smells like MRAs. They can't use their FB accounts because they would called out on. Always nice for the sad and lonely to have a place to hide.
June 6, 2017 at 5:08 PM
I'm not on facebook as I have a real life--and I wouldn't be on the PCVST TA page anyway as it's a bunch of Blackstone asskissers trying to justify their own stupidity to themselves-- but I read here, I'm a woman, there's no chauvinism in this blog. You want to do something for feminism? Why don't you read up on the increase in rapes in gentrifying neighborhoods? Why don't you write to the Town and Village when some stupid bitch writes a letter about how the victims should blame themselves for drinking alcohol? I never drink, but I'm not gonna use that to justify PS's appalling laxity, laziness and total incompetence. Or to feel smug and superior to these sad, stupid NYU students. yeah, those girls may be dumb, but there's a problem here with this uptick in rapes and assaults. This is a recent trend in criminal activity. Something is wrong here, you STUPID BITCH. It should concern women, but those dumb cunts at the TA are more concerned with secret money stashes and vacation homes in Aruba. I'll say it again, if you still don't get it.
Just tell us who and where you are, and I'll be happy to show up and call you a dumb cunt to your face, when I have some free time to spare for you.
The Crusties are here. Filthy slobs with dogs hanging out in front of our buildings on 14th Street. Just be careful of them. I threatened a couple of them with calling the cops tonight. They moved away, but not without telling me how wrong I was to judge them. Hey! You are fucking in plain sight on the street and taking drugs and have a couple of hungry and angry dogs, you are not up to anything good. Where is "Public Safety?" Why aren't these people being chased away or turned in to the cops?
June 10, 2017 at 12:18 AM
I gotta say, this is an interesting trend indeed. They've been on the south side of 14th street for decades. First time I've seen em moving to the north side. I can't say I'm particularly threatened or bothered by them specifically, but this is absolutely a bellwether for the type of neighborhood we're now living in. And an increase in transients, however innocent they may themselves be, is gonna be indicative of an increase in crime. Called PS for something unrelated a few weeks ago--it always takes them half an hour to show up, if they show up at all. Assholes.
The TA nuts would call me greedy but since I am not wealthy I simply call it smart, especially since I bought the house as an investment in 2008 and it has nearly doubled in value since I bought it! So, to recap, I get to leave ST on the weekends and hang at the lake while making money and paying less than half what MR idiots pay. Sorry you're so stupid that you make poor economic decisions and then try to blame everyone else because you are so...well, stupid. Major fail!
June 8, 2017 at 2:52 PM
Ha! I love this. I'm not fortunate enough to be in this position, I have only my apartment and a middle class income, but good for you. This is perfectly legal. Long live rent control. Suck on it, all you Tenants ASSociation shills. (This is my family friendly version of this message, for all you sweet sensitive souls out there
"but I read here, I'm a woman, there's no chauvinism in this blog. You want to do something for feminism? Why don't you read up on the increase in rapes in gentrifying neighborhoods?" Well said June 10, 2017 at 4:23 PM
The increase of serious crimes against women is alarming and deeply troubling. It happens here and as pointed out in "gentrifying" areas by the revolving door between the NYC Economic Development corporation and the politicians. It is pervasive in the real estate - wall street industry culture especially .... well let's not name names YET.
If the crusties are going to plant themselves on the North side of the street in front of Stuyvesant Town buildings, then it does bother me. It bothers me very much. I will call PS/Security whenever I see them planted in front of my building with the drug paraphynalia and unfortunate dogs. They can be menacing and they are filthy and probably have every cooty in the world living in their filthy clothes and filthy hair. I want to be able to leave and enter my building (especially at night) without having to practically trip over these lowlifes. If PS won't summon up the balls to send them away, then I will call 911. They are on Blackstone property when they are sprawled up against the fences. The sidewalk extending to the service road is Blackstone property and Blackstone needs to take responsibility for keeping the sidewalk and steps and disabled ramps clear and safe for tenants to enter and exit their buildings.
This is historic abuse of power of their offices, by all the incumbents, that surpasses Boss Tweed. The Garodnick = REBNY giggling gala photo will forever live on in infamy. Thank you for posting the gala photos STR and exposing the truth.
Had the pleasure early this fine morning at 5 AM of being awakened by 4 of the Pig Stuy's best tenants. These 4, who appeared to be part of the student demo, were having an extremely loud conversation in front of my building. This went on for about fifteen minutes.
All these "I'll just call 911" responses are pretty funny. Go ahead call them, sometimes if they have no jobs they'll show up but most of the time they call PS and hand the job down unless it's a priority.
Why is it that whenever I walk within this property I always see piles of shit but never see a Stytown security guard? I never see them anywhere within the oval, no matter the time. Furthermore, why isn't the TA making inquiries regarding this, and why are they attempting to shake me down for $50.00?
Garodnick is a sleazy REBNY tool and I just can't wait for him to go away. I will vote for just about anybody who opposes him or I won't vote at all. Blloomberg, De Blasio and Garodnick have destroyed this city by being the rent boys for REBNY (take that whatever whay you want). I am waiting for another photograph of Garodnick sitting on speer's lap at the next Liars Ball.
"Why is it that whenever I walk within this property I always see piles of shit but never see a Stytown security guard? I never see them anywhere within the oval, no matter the time. Furthermore, why isn't the TA making inquiries regarding this, and why are they attempting to shake me down for $50.00?"
Because the TA is USELESS and simply a tool of Management. Many of us are sickened and disgusted by the piles of shit that are liberally dotted all over the project. Even by the Five Turd E-Coli Cafe. I wouldn't eat there if they were giving the food away for free and I was starving!
June 11, 2017 at 11:00 AM smells like desperation. they likely lack membership numbers to remain in existence despite they have big$ amounts coming in from city council payoffs. they should shut down or be shut down for failure to achieve results and just go away before a lot of truths come out about how they conduct themselves.
The TA is a lost cause. Do not know why it even exists anymore, except to cowtow to management. I did have a positive experience with a public safety officer who responded to my third complaint of downstairs brothers smoking fruity tobacco. He was the only one that responded forcefully and thoroughly. So far so good, no problems in the last week and at least I know that it is on record. Interesting that Rick Hayduk's assistant at the Thursday tent told me that there was nothing they could do about it and refused to follow up on it. It is my belief that Blackstone encourages the officers to look the other way and ignore dorm infractions. I was lucky to get this officer in response to my call. There are some good ones.
June 11, 2017 at 6:47 AM It is a pathetic, worship love of money and fame. This blog had his number for years. He may love the camera but the camera does not love him. The truth of the ugliness, the anti-middle class community bias inside political offices will be exposed along with other prejudice and bias. He is the quintessential case study of a politician making his constituents lives worse while enriching himself.
I believe I have to change a bit the front page to show how Blackstone has failed this community, or what remains of this community.
I know I shouldn't go out at this time of day, but the weather!
Seen just in a short space of time:
Two dogs about the Oval Fountain. One Lord of the Flies kid playing with the plants and soil near the fountain. The soil is now spread outside and looks ugly just lying there. Bicycles riding around the Oval. No PS officer in sight.
Yes, it is amazing to me how many tenants love Blackstone and Rick. They get offended when management is criticized and see Blackstone as a departure from the previous evil owners. They say that this management responds to their complaints, but do not seem to realize that their complaints are getting more numerous as core issues worsen. The answer I seem to get when I criticize Blackstone is that it is the same all over the city.
"I am very disappointed in some of our neighbors. They seem to enjoy the filth and squalor. Perfect tenants for Blackstone!"
It is now as bad as, if not worse, than a public housing project. People who object to this dump being characterized as being part of the projects: suck it up.
Overheard in the elevator this evening: "I can't believe how many babies and little kids there are in this place. The student life office definitely didn't mention this."
The two NYU bros (they both had NYU Athletics shirts on) didn't realize I was listening (had headphones in) or that I have two children. I had to let these two know that these babies and kids have been around a lot longer than the NYU dorms.
Our esteemed councilman and TA have sat by and let NYU completely take over this place without so much as peep against them.
"They say that this management responds to their complaints, but do not seem to realize that their complaints are getting more numerous as core issues worsen. The answer I seem to get when I criticize Blackstone is that it is the same all over the city."
Maybe it is the same all over the city, but if that's the case, then Blackstone has no business hawking this dump as being an "oasis" or any better than all over the city. This complex was always different than it is all over the city. Now, it's a dorm/project shit hole. Thank you Blackstone, TA and Danny Rebny.
Thank you Blackstone, TA and Danny Rebny. ..and Tishman Speyer whose close relationship with the Governor and Mayor is the biggest problem the city and PCV ST face.
The two NYU bros (they both had NYU Athletics shirts on) didn't realize I was listening (had headphones in) or that I have two children. I had to let these two know that these babies and kids have been around a lot longer than the NYU dorms.
Anyone else notice how the new blue and green Metlife logo and the blue and green Metlife Brighthouse logo and the StuyTown shell company Brickman Group ValleyCrest Cos Brightview golf-cart groundskeeper company are alike? Just saying.
June 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM and MetLife too. It was their selling pitch and they had already converted 30% of the apartments to market rate when Tishman Speyer stepped up in 2006. Metlife already tried and failed in a big way to turn the property into luxury hotels thus the "sale" to a very long laundry list of investors and more that came on board along the way from bottlers-distributors to casinos to foreign governments..all the usual suspects who invest in casino hotels.
Too much! Have started talking to real estate agents in Fl, GA and N. Carolina. Cannot wait to leave here with all the noise, dogs, pot, lack of sleep and write to tell everyone - it can be done! QOL is more important than a cheap rent.
PS. Rick has been very helpful addressing my issues when I spoke with him on two Thursday nights. I'm surprised he didn't respond to the pot complaint from a tenant. Pot is still illegal in NY unless it's for medical reasons.
June 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM and MetLife too. It was their selling pitch and they had already converted 30% of the apartments to market rate when Tishman Speyer stepped up in 2006. Metlife already tried and failed in a big way to turn the property into luxury hotels thus the "sale"
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Does this make anyone proud?
Those bathrooms are absolutely disgusting. I will take my kid back to our apartment before venturing in there.
When I hear people say we don't live in a slum...well, take a look. The rents can be high, people's skin color is different, but...
And I have been in other areas of the city. And I have taken photos. Some very nice ones, too. Of course, if you compare this place to a couple of apartment complexes in the Lower East Side...that's not the comparison you should be making. Aside from our grounds that have a good amount of greenery (now, but far less beautiful than before) what have we--if we are paying the good money being asked?
It doesn't have to be this way, but it is. The photos do not lie.
that is sickening. a real ghetto. Post on Yelp?
We do live in a slum. That is self-evident and it is also self-evident that Blackstone is a slumlord. Major League slumlord. That is know worldwide.
I went up to the 10th floor of my building the other day to deliver some mail that had been put in my mailbox by our lazy, stupid letter miscarrier. As soon as I got off the elevator, I was hit in the face by the putrid stench of stale dog piss. The projects are BETTER than StyTown!.
What a fucking shit-hole! Anybody who pays top dollar to live here is fucking crazy! I have no problem with Section 8 people living here because they are simply poor and they are not taking any money from my pocket or food from my table. If the City wants to pay Blackstone to take them in, then why not? They are better than all the screeching students. But how anybody in their right mind (which they obviously are not) can pay $3k+ to live in this rundown slum is beyond me. They should be embarrassed.
I won't let my children use these bathrooms alone. Both the men and women's rooms are around a sketchy corner. And why is the hallway so dark. These are not true residents facilities. They're for the workers and delivery people. I'll take my kids back to the apartment.
Again, it doesn't have to be this way. Blackstone, spend some money. Fuck newer "amenities"! Stop it with the predicable real estate BS. If this or that worker is not doing his/her job, fire them or get them out of their position. I repeat: it doesn't have to be this way! The fact that it IS that way, indicates that you don't really care, but only for the rental numbers. That should not be the priority. Making this place work is the way to have this complex become truly successful.
And where is the TA on all this? Why must I, a private resident of Stuy Town, present these photos? Why is the TA not doing this? Why is the TA not approaching the Management?
The TA is now obviously an arm of management. When you respond to resident complaints with "e-mail Rick Hayduk" that says it all. When they post on their site, it is either an inane update or an excuse for Blackstone. That is why I stopped paying my dues, they no longer represent us.
This is really bad. No amount of PR can cover this up. Thank you STR for telling it like it is. The NY Times has been untruthful and deceitful about this complex.
In all fairness, the old bathrooms next to the Rec Dept office were pretty grimy too.
BTW, that shot inside the men's bathroom... Number four of the series, I believe. Well, that toilet paper holder has never been fixed. For years I've seen it loose.
>>In all fairness, the old bathrooms next to the Rec Dept office were pretty grimy too.<<
Hey, do you remember the guy who used to hang around the old bathrooms, smoking his cigar?
At least then residents were not paying top dollar to live here and no Ikea furnishings that break down in the bathroom--very easily I must say. They look pretty, for a couple of months.
The old bathrooms did not have any money-making candy machines that currently look horrible. (See Photos.)
The candy machines are in the bathroom! Eew! Something very unwholesome about that! All those shitty hands all over the machine. I thought those photographs were in the laundry rooms. I wonder if that is a violation of the Health Code? Are they hoping for a massive E-coli outbreak?
Most of the mess and filth is caused by the tenants, not Management, but the latter does a very poor job of cleaning up after the dirty tenants.
Management never misses the opportunity to make a buck off of tenants. I can't believe they have candy machines in the lavatories - dirty lavatories, at that. That is so gross. No wonder Oval Cafe was closed down by the Health Department recently. The standard of hygiene set by Management is appalling.
Here is prime space for affordable housing using eminent domain. They can turn this into 70 500sq ft units plus whatever the air rights would build. They could demolish it and build a whole new tower of affordable housing on the space with thousands of affordable homes. Instead this Mayor uses eminent domain pushing lower and middle income citizens out in Brooklyn to build Russian financed Barclay center for his developer friend, erases park-space-playground open space in lower, middle income communities for developers to build majority-luxury-unit towers, and allows this single family mcmansion to be used for the puffy-faced wealthy to recuperate during plastic surgery. Where are the Mayor's priorities? Planted squarely on his pulled-stretched-plumped-frozen-faced wealthy friends getting wealthier and looking more like Batman's Joker versus looking like younger versions of themselves. But this Mayor is not interested in solving the housing problem or solving any problems. He is using these problems to enrich his friends. Landlords know the system is rigged to solve nothing while making themselves richer and garnering headlines for politicians. Politicians love headlines. Landlords know and exploit that there is a lot of money to be easily made in shelters and section 8 programs and that politicians love headlines on numbers-of-housing-units. This Mayor must have created a few dozens headlines for himself on his Housing programs. We got your number Mr Mayor and we are not buying what you are selling.
Still the joke is on the lower and middle class who voted for this Mayor. Section 8 Housing is a cash cow for landlords to get richer off taxpayer dollars by inflating rents, offering low-level services and defrauding Public funds.
The level of service for tenants is divided by what type of apartment you have.
There is a lot of dirty money deals in Section 8 housing programs which are not solving the housing problem but the programs sure are making the landlords and shelter owners richer. Section 8 is either a full blown scam or a vulnerable program being exploited by corrupt officials and landlords.
https://ny.curbed.com/2017/6/2/15729016/historic-upper-east-side-mansion-for-sale
@9:54 AM: Are you talking about DeBlasio? Sounds more like Bloomberg. Barclay Center was his baby, as well as all the other schemes and scams you mention.
There's a special place in Hell for these greedy bastard real estate brokers. Below is a segment of a piece in DNA about the incoming Trader Joe's and Target:
""We're concerned about those big box stores as well as the tech hub, especially that combination of things coming to the neighborhood, especially sort of all at the same time," said Carol Crump. "It makes it really hard to keep the things that are unique and that people love about the East Village, especially for the mom-and-pop stores — it most likely obliterates so many of them."
Those dealing in the area's real estate say the arrival of those stores will likely change the character of the retail landscape, with one benefit being that it could make the neighborhood more desirable and drive up prices to live near those amenities, said a real estate agent who hawks East Village properties.
"As they build out these big box stores it's going to set a price floor — nothing will be cheaper than X because you have these amenities," said Alex Prose of Modern Residential. "Even if the apartment is terrible people are still going to be willing to live in it because of the way the neighborhood is fabricated...As the retail comes, the demand for housing in that neighborhood will stay steady but also you’ll see prices rise because those amenities will be attractive to tenants.""
Incredibly biased article in the NY Times real estate section. I am sure that it was planted by PR from Blackstone. A family raving about this dump and paying over 5 grand . Makes the place seem like Central Park West. Kudos to the inept TA for sharing that bogus piece of crap journalism.
Another NY Times PCVST puff piece. Does Blackstone/SPS just write this crap themselves?
"Ms. Carey nodded. “After I visited a few times, I just kept thinking, ‘This is incredible.’ We love the apartment. We love the community. After we moved in, there was just more and more: the Easter egg hunt, the farmers’ market, summer movies.”
“They even have an ice-skating rink,” Mr. Carey said.
“We feel like we live in a park,” Ms. Carey said.
Nothing is mentioned about the reality of the Dorm/AirBnb/Dog S**t-P**s dump that it has now become where QOL lease regs are never enforced.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/realestate/a-family-of-three-prefers-stuyvesant-town-to-midtown.html
I did not vote for this fool. Those who did, enjoy your city now and future!
I get the feeling that some of those pollyanna posters on the TA site are living in a different place than I am. They just keep praising and praising this dump.
Tells you what the NY Times is about. At least that section. Blackstone is overjoyed at this article and will use it.
BTW, I'm seeing more and more people heading here for AirBnB STPCV apartments and looking as if they exited first from the "prison gym" at Asser Levy. Actually, I'm insulting the prison gym probably, because these types you don't want entering your building. Rough looking. Very little luggage, too.
Seen today: Quite a few, eh, young professionals (ie, students) being led by a smiling broker.
Sabrina Mollot or whatever the fuck her name is at the Town and Village needs to do her due diligence and find out what the hell is the connection at the New York Times between them and Blackstone. The NYT OBVIOUSLY has a financial stake in the success of Blackstone's slum lord rental program. And they are also cheerleading for diBlasio's slumlord expansion program that allowed Blackstone to profit on this dump.
This is disgusting, immoral, poor journalism and seriously in need of exposure. If there's some connection to DiBlasio as well, that's even worse. NYT pretends to be serious unbiased journalism. Bullshit. someone needs to blow the lid off this.
At least there is actual journalism going on at, of all places, NY Mag.
For those inclined, I would encourage them to write to the Times and tell it like it really is. See if they publish any letters. The attempted rapes and assaults, the forced gentrification, the poor grounds and building conditions, the bad will between loud and quiet neighbors, etc etc etc ad infinitum.
Stuy Town Reporter said...
Tells you what the NY Times is about. At least that section. Blackstone is overjoyed at this article and will use it."
I'm gonna make an educated inference here and say they aren't just "using" it, they financed it and campaigned for that article. Shame on the New York Times. Shitty journalism and shitty ethics there.
I would not let my college daughter live here Aint safe here. esp at night., that is for fuck sure.
"Atomic Man said...
In all fairness, the old bathrooms next to the Rec Dept office were pretty grimy too."
From what I recall, and this is way back, those weren't actually public bathrooms. They were office bathrooms, but if kid showed up and asked nicely and was in dire need, they'd let the kid use the office bathroom.
There was no need for public bathrooms back then because "the public" didn't flock to Stuyvesant town to use the grounds. Most people lived here and were minutes away from their own bathroom.
I'm not calling for locked gates, but when 60% of the people on the grounds are from outside, it gets REALLY. FUCKING. CROWDED. and dirty. and more trash on the grounds, and more dogshit and more bike traffic. And quality of life goes to shit.
This isn't rocket science. Obviously, things are getting worse here when they try to make it a fucking tourist destination.
That article in the NYT had to be promoted by Blackstone PR. It is indeed sickening that it gives such a stilted view of the QOL here and such a positive spin on the Blackstone charade.
What is even more sickening is the TA website ,on which the pollyannas gather round to support the article and give this dump kudos.
But the reality is who is moving into manhattan these days? Not families - too expensive. Kids, kids, more kids, kids. Kids dont live alone, you pack em in 4 and five with one bathroom. Pretty gross actually.
June 3, 2017 at 7:34 PM
No, they were definitely "public" bathrooms. Very useful for filling up water balloons. But you're correct in the fact they were de facto "residents only" because there weren't outsiders roaming the grounds. In fact, it wasn't necessary to put those bathrooms on a parents "beware" list for their kids. We lived in an oasis.
ever notice how Rick from Foriduh kisses the asses of all the employees here? Overheard him many times, watched him.. dont' matter if they're on their cellphones, running folks over with the clown car or siting around not working smoking and watching loud XX on cellphones. He says nothing, smiles, waves, does nothing. they curse, they complain, they sit around.
“They even have an ice-skating rink”
“We feel like we live in a park”
"You even have a wine fridge!"
The most hilarious aspect of this propaganda puff piece planted in the Times is both the husband and wife are P.R. lobbyists quoting Blackstone talking points verbatim. The article is just another piece of the ongoing Blackstone produced "PCVST is Shangri-La Again" campaign theme orchestrated by P.R. lobbyists, written by P.R. lobbyists, about P.R. lobbyists fed to compliant unquestioning news media by P.R. lobbyists.
wow-- that facebook TA page "discussion" about the NYT article.
it is unbelievable how some tenants appear to have their heads straight up the asses of their slumlord and owner. I had no idea; apparently Heydick doesn't need to kiss their asses as they are already kissing his, what is wrong with these people? they don't even sound like adults, they sound like they have the critical thinking skills of a five year old. daddy is good to us, we should be grateful that he is letting us pay 5200 a month to live here!
I don't have a facebook account and doubt I am able to mention names here?
but without mentioning names, that bitch who keeps telling everyone to be grateful and "stop whining" and that other bitch who keeps railing against the rent stabilized tenants with "secret assets" who are not really supposed to be here--
I never heard such a delusional bunch of fools, sounds like they want to get down on their knees in front of the Heydick and just suck right up.
no one should "complain" about the conditions here and in the same breath they're bitching about how all the market rate tenants are evil profiteers. You can suck *it*, ladies, we RS tenants are not going anywhere.
A couple of notes, there seems to be an abundance of kids/families here, not the larger long term families thought. I find using those brown port-a-potties in the loops a lot more cleaner than the Oval restrooms. I just don't understand why they are not out every day? Between workers, sub-contractors, and middle management there does appear a resentment towards tenants walking the sidewalks like we are at a construction site. Each loop is virtually littered with some raw material "loading dock" . That said I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
The New York Times has once again proved it is nothing but fake news.
This place continues to be an absolute joke.
>>The most hilarious aspect of this propaganda puff piece planted in the Times is both the husband and wife are P.R. lobbyists quoting Blackstone talking points verbatim. The article is just another piece of the ongoing Blackstone produced "PCVST is Shangri-La Again" campaign theme orchestrated by P.R. lobbyists, written by P.R. lobbyists, about P.R. lobbyists fed to compliant unquestioning news media by P.R. lobbyists.<<
I did a quick check, which the Times may and should have done, and unless I'm incorrect the working identity of these two is amazing. Blackstone's picture perfect demographic!
I also noticed that the comments about Stuy Town have now been...closed.
Whenever the subject gets round to whether or not PCVST is a "project" or "luxury housing" the moderator always shuts down the discussion. They probably are instructed by management to do so.
I suspect that the tenants who are telling people (usually real RS tenants) to shut up and stop whining are those pseudo-RS tenants (i.e. MR) who are chagrined that they are paying through the nose to live here and they really resent the fact that the "old timers" have rents so much lower than theirs. Some even have SCRIE or DRIE! The Nerve! Surely those people should be put out on the street to beg with a bowl? Really!
The bitch who is always having a dig at "old timers" with succession rights for their kids (and money in Swiss bank accounts ;-)) and their own Mar-A-Largos to go to in winter and country estates in summer, has written a couple of nasty comments in T&V about "old biddies, clipping coupons and passing on their apartments to their undeserving kids." Jealousy is ugly and makes people ugly and that is why so many of the MR folk (not all, but definitely some who post on the TA facebook page) absolutely cannot tolerate any criticism of the property by the folks who have been here forever. It makes them feel embarrassed and stupid that they are paying through the nose to put up with what we have to put up with for a much lower rent.
Another thing, those vindictive MR ladies did not live here when the place really was a great bargain and a place to thank God for. Before the destruction/construction/dormification and dogs. Not to mention that the pathways were peaceful and bicycle-free and there was no incessant, grating noise from construction inside and outside. The most raucous noise we heard were when a couple of squirrels got into a fight in the trees around the buildings. Btw, those trees were carefully planted to hide the absolute ugliness of the buildings.
8:37 we have no idea what you are talking about. There is not a person on FB railing about RS and private assets. ?
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Extract of one of the comments made by an RS-resenter:
"As for having money to burn - for all the folks who really need rent control or rent stabilization, there are plenty of other 'old families' here who enjoy cheap rents, and have beaucoups bucks to burn, and own one (or more) properties elsewhere. And who can afford to renovate their own apartments while hiding it from the landlord. It's too bad that the Rent Stabilization laws weren't tighter, and didn't at least check folks' assets. Too bad that people could 'pass on' apartments that they did not own, by playing with the 'two-year' requirement, some even 'saving' empty apartments for their kids. We all know neighbors like these. Not saying that certain needs are justified, but that some people abuse the rules for their own benefit. Too bad that Met Life officers could get apartments in PCV, whether they needed to or not (yes, I read 'the' book and know about the Roberts case). This place is not a retirement community - it should be more vibrant, with all sorts of folks living here. The unruly and unkempt students are an issue for everyone, regardless of where you live in Manhattan."
She says they can afford to renovate their own apartments while hiding it from the landlord. No way! You cannot do any major renovations without the landlord knowing! Maybe she means that they keep their apartments clean and nicely furnished and spend a little of their own, hard-earned money on their apartments. As for hiding empty apartments. No way. How does she know (or thinks she knows) so much about RS tenants? Does she go sneaking around? Do the RS tenants invite her in and tell her all their business? They'd have to be stupid to let that old crab over their doorsteps. Maybe she listens to gossip in her building. Whatever the story is, she is barking up the wrong tree and should just shut the fuck up.
Yup! Sure looks like Pig Stuy Town to me.
"Blackstone's picture perfect demographic!"
Even better, 6 parental funded NYU students in a 3 bedroom "flex" apartment. Gone in 6 months to a year, max. Churn, baby, churn. Sunday, I was in the Sty elevator with 7 of them, newly arrived for the season. The vocal fry was killing me, every other word was "like", they had no idea of what "T" or "M" stood for.
This Deputy Mayor comes up a lot in seriously questionable acts by the mayors office. Just when you think his relationships with real estate are really bad, it keeps getting worse. How did he escape indictment from the state and federal probes?
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/firm-linked-de-blasio-lobbying-city-probe-article-1.3221398
My first reaction to seeing Stuy Town was mortified depression. This is because the buildings do look like projects. It was only when I was inside that my opinion started to change. This happened years ago, btw. Today I can't picture the rents being asked of people. PS was much, much better years ago, too. Now it seems PS does not care, unless you go right by them with an infraction. And for some infractions, they walk away or look the other way.
@1:59 PM: The sooner De Blasio and his entire sleazy crew are gone, the better. He has as much hubris as Bloomberg and just as little accountability. The lobbying firm that is getting him the dirty bucks, Constantinople and Vallone, does that have anything to do with Peter Vallone, a speaker a few terms ago, and his sleazy son?
I am a life-long Dem, but I think I may have to vote Repug or Ind in the future City elections.
https://data.cityofnewyork.us/City-Government/OATH-Hearings-Division-Case-Status/y6h5-jvss
Here you go. For you amateur detectives: just be careful as some cases have been dismissed.
Also I'm dubious about naming names if you see one. The open data is enough.
You can well ask our "chiefs" what tickets have been handed out. The numbers on the tickets, which will be verified by the city's data.
BTW, has the TA done this? I don't want to waste time otherwise
Again, your letting your minions name call. Sad.
4 20 me too. This is real bad here for many years.
STR, at 3:54. Yes, ok, but where do you think we (MR) should go?
why would met life continue to give the employees cheaper apartments? Is that true! Then, NO, Not fine by us either - L/t RS here.
>>STR, at 3:54. Yes, ok, but where do you think we (MR) should go?<<
Depends. You could stay right here, but you will be paying an awful lot, which I'm sure you know.
>>Again, your letting your minions name call. Sad.<<
Did I hear someone say mutton?
6:49
No, but there's a bridge missing it's downstairs tenant.
Everyone should e-mail or write to the NYTimes concerning the veracity of that article praising this dump. I did send an e-mail. As for the TA site, those women are disgusting, always on the attack if you criticize management. I think that they talk to good old Rick all the time and he ropes them in.
"Did I hear someone say mutton?"
Seinfeld - Thanks for Mutton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJW4xx5G3F0
Who is name-calling?
Let's face it and call it what it is. We have absolute shit renting here now in the form of transients, students and the endless AirBnB procession in and out. The market rate people, paying through the nose, can bitch and squawk all they like because they don't want because they don't like to face reality, but with the piss and shit all over the place (dog and human), lack of protection by Public Safety and lack of interest by Management when it comes to enforcing the QOL rules, this place is a slum. It is no better than the projects. I've been in apartments in NYCHA projects and they were pretty spacious and nice. Some were suffering maintenance issues due to the lazy and inept management; some were very well kept. The buildings were not any dirtier or scruffier than those in the Sty.
If you want to pay $3.5k per month for a project apartment with a dishwasher, go ahead. These apartments, renovated or not, are not worth anything near what they go for. They are old, have decaying plumbling, no soundproofing and not any better put together or maintained than the NYCHA houses. I don't care because I pay a low rent, but if I could afford to pay what the MR people pay, I would be out of here in a flash.
The TA knows this and that is why they have minimal membership and minimal impact on this slumlord landlord.
Anonymous @ June 5, 2017 at 5:41 PM said...
"Again, your letting your minions name call. Sad."
What's this? A weak attempt to mimic an insulting Trump Tweet?
STR touched a raw nerve somewhere. We've seen Garodnick-TA Board now joined by Blackstone deploy lobbyist trolls attacking this blog and comment posters for years.
How come no vague libel/slander lawsuit threat?
Truth hurts. Honest criticism hurts.
"SAD!" "SAD!" "SAD!" (3x, caps, ! and "")
It seems to be raining or close to it, but there is a lawnmower outside that is making an awful and very loud racket. And now, this lawnmower appears to be broken, but the worker still insists on mowing the lawn!
This board is much like a trump tweet.
Aren't you guys just trying to make stuy great again? There's no room for other opinions, women are referred to in the crudest terms, and you spend all your time spewing how it's us not them that belongs here.
I suggest the moderator sell red caps so you all know who to trust when you venture out into the sun.
Now that the politicians took a lot of $$$ from Verizon to push Fios on us and our intercoms are Fios, who is regulating the data collected by the intercoms tracking our visitors, guests, deliveries, occupants and what are they doing with it other than tracking and harassing rent stabilized tenants?
This is now getting creepy. Verizon is supposed to have privacy policies protecting customers but the intercoms are property of the landlord while the visitors to our homes is supposed to be our private business.
Who is supposed to pass laws protecting our privacy when landlords install data collecting intercoms on who we have visit us in our homes? Is Verizon donating millions to federal, state electeds to bribe them into foregoing passing laws to protect our 4th Amendment Right of Privacy so creepy landlords can access private, personal information? Does anyone else think this is creepy that McClellan tracks this data on each and every person visiting, delivery, where we eat, who we are friends with, who we know, all personal information? Who is accessing this data, what are they using it for when we know they are not using it to catch Airbnb hotel guests so what, they are using it to creep on tenants?
Serious questions are begging for answers.
What data is being collected?
What data is being stored?
Where is the data stored?
Who has access to the data?
What regulations oversee use of the data?
What laws protect from misuse and abuse of the data?
How is the data being used?
Are guests, friends, family who visit then subject to landlord tricks of background checks, invasions of their privacy?
Is the data stored on the internet?
Is the data stored on public access, law enforcement access, other private citizens access eg landlord investors, fixers?
Do tenants have rights to monitor, see all data landlord is collecting that is none of their gosh damn business?
Which of these politicians who took payouts from Verizon Fios passed any protection laws for citizens when Verizon Fios began installing home intercoms in tenants apartments?
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/toprecips.php?id=D000000079&type=&sort=&cycle=2014
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?id=D000000079
DeBlasio deals with developers is if they include minimal affordable housing then deBlasio will upzone the property to increase the developers profits. While some city councilpersons are pushing back on DeBlasio's land giveaways, our councilperson sided with developers which means this Peter Cooper and Stuyvesant Town land has been rezoned and that must be recorded somewhere on the city websites.
"Political and community opposition has derailed several projects seeking to make use of MIH, a signature policy from Mayor Bill de Blasio that requires developers to include affordable housing at projects in exchange for increased zoning rights on their sites."
https://therealdeal.com/2017/06/06/developer-drops-plans-for-vinegar-hill-resi-building-after-community-backlash/
The politicians can't seriously be asking us to put our necks out as activists after betraying us every day since Tishman Speyer BlackRock Brookfield Blackstone took over the property, took over the mayors office, took over the city council, took over the attorney general office (who personally thanked Rob Speyer for providing the attorney general's Chief Operating Officer in 2010) and the governors office and now we all learn that the lawyer defending Kushner is a democrat political power player.
Fool us once, shame on us. Fool us twice, shame on you.
We know they are all working with each other on the real estate deals and that Kushner will get off with nary a slap on the wrist if anything at all because they see themselves as members of an elite club who are above the law and all the rest of us are screwed by their rigged laws.
The Democratic Power Lawyer Defending Kushner
"If Hillary Clinton were president right now, Jamie Gorelick might have been her attorney general.
Instead, Gorelick — a Democratic power player who served as deputy attorney general under Bill Clinton and raised more than $100,000 for Hillary in 2016 — could wind up serving as Jared Kushner’s savior.
Gorelick, as you may have noticed from any number of recent news reports, is Kushner’s lawyer. And Kushner, as you may have also noticed, is someone who is going to be spending a lot of time talking to his lawyer over the next several months."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/meet-democratic-superlawyer-save-jared-kushner-090024970.html
>> women are referred to in the crudest terms<<
I know now you must be from out of the city. The crudest terms? Have you heard the typical New Yorker (real New Yorker) speak?
But we are love and kindness here, except when getting screwed.
>>no room for other opinions<<
Of course, there is. But if you can't defend your opinion?
>>While some city councilpersons are pushing back on DeBlasio's land giveaways, our councilperson sided with developers which means this Peter Cooper and Stuyvesant Town land has been rezoned and that must be recorded somewhere on the city websites.<<
I think it is on record that Garodnick is in favor of rezoning. Not getting things smaller, but getting things bigger.
Ha! You can call me any name in the book, just say it to my face. The shit here smells like MRAs. They can't use their FB accounts because they would called out on. Always nice for the sad and lonely to have a place to hide.
11:01 AM, sorry but you sound very paranoid. I don't think the intercoms gather data and I don't think that Chief McLellan does, either. In fact, I don't think Chief McLellan gathers anything other than an oversized paycheck.
>>Ha! You can call me any name in the book, just say it to my face.<<
Says Anonymous....
Do you doubt the photos that are shown by me? I have more, btw...
June 6, 2017 at 10:44 AM um, your landlord works with Trump and has a lot of business deals with Trump, Bayrock, and Kushner including keeping an office at Kushner buildings. This blog does not sound like Trump at all. In fact it is the furthest thing from Trump but your landlord just got billions from Saudi's courtesy of Trump which by your thinking means that Management and Security are the red hat wearers.
What's an MRA?
June 6, 2017 at 5:18 PM Of course the intercoms gather data, they are digital. 5:18 makes good points especially when your landlord likes to bully you by challenging residency and your tenant association gives bad advice to turn over all your private information to your landlord. You are entitled to ask for data gathering policy and practices.
No rezoning required until demolition for towers. Guess 10-15 years. Planning probably very quietly commenced already. Speyer should be involved in a major way claiming a magnificent comeback victory successfully realizing his original PCVST vision after he so miserably failed here previously.
How did Speyer get his 2nd chance to destroy our historic middle class community and our homes again? Who gave him that incredible opportunity? Tell us Dan. Tell the truth and stop claiming the ongoing destruction of our community and pending demolition of our homes is somehow a historic middle class victory.
"MRAs" - What's that?
6:55pm
When in Rome.
5:08
Is that you Susan? Dan?
What would we get called out on on Facebook?
STR provides facts with photographs. We post based on those facts. Sure there are some outrageous claims made on this blog, but I see through the BS posts and take all the information in that I can.
Inaccurate statement hypocritically said by "Anonymous" to male false character attacks because their outargued by the truth on STR:
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ha! You can call me any name in the book, just say it to my face. The shit here smells like MRAs. They can't use their FB accounts because they would called out on. Always nice for the sad and lonely to have a place to hide.
June 6, 2017 at 5:08 PM
BROOKFIELD PROPERTY PARTNERS (BPP)
A construction worker died after falling several stories when the platform he was on collapsed at a work site in Hudson Yards Monday night, officials said.
The 62-year-old hardhat was standing on wooden planks on the 16th floor at 401 Ninth Ave. near 33rd Street when they gave way and he plummeted down to the sixth floor, cops said.
He was pronounced dead at the scene.
The site is slated to be a skyscraper called 1 Manhattan West as part of a large-scale real-estate development program by Brookfield Property Partners, with a projected completion in 2020.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/06/construction-worker-falls-to-death-after-platform-collapses/
I still want to know what an MRA is.
Quality of Life is in the Crapper since they began turning the East and West village into dorms with crime and rapes sky high. Nice going City Hall and City Council. Your poorly zoned spaces, sell-out to developers, and over granting of liquor license is increasing the number of rapes and danger to the point people say they cannot go out at night and these people are the 20 year old women who should be kept safe on real dorm campuses and not dormified city buildings.
Pure Greed by Politicians
"Hell Square boasts the highest density of on-premise liquor licenses (OPLL) compared to any other neighborhood across New York C
ity’s five boroughs.
After the November 2008 rezoning of the Lower East Side by the Department of City Planning, there was a stark increase in average rents and the number of approved on-premise liquor licenses (Cazentre, 2017). A New York State policy that streamlines liquor license applications and the expansion of nightlife options in the area acted as a vehicle for economic development, spurring much of the rezoning and gentrification in the neighborhood, which has been called an
“entertainment zone” by residents and lawmakers alike
. These strategies have demonstrated little regard for the existing community and instead overwhelmingly favor profit-making establishments, largely bars, clubs, and restaurants (New York State Liquor Authority, 2013). Visible and measurable effects include increased crime, serious public health and safety issues, and a general decrease in quality of life."
http://nypost.com/2017/06/07/less-hell-square-is-now-an-alarming-hotbed-for-crime/
The Report:
https://www.scribd.com/document/350580016/Over-Saturation-of-Nightlife-is-Toxic-to-the-LES
It has come to my attention that Blackcock and our avaricious overseers will once again attempt to sneakily get a liquor license for the 5 PigStuy Turd Café. Under the guise of just another "amenity". Now the college bros won't have to leave the premises to get loaded. Woohoo! Just remember you heard it first here.
Being practical but i think this is manhattan and much of nyc now. Exorbitant pricing has fucked average people from moving in, staying and families, artists , average MC.
the only customers Blackstone can find are students now willing to split a one bedroom 3 ways and their parents pay the rent. Business and retail is shit now too, only annoying dull retailers like cvs and chains can manage.
Interesting enough while walking my dog around the Oval, I was approached by 2 older men that requested the use of my card to access the bathrooms. I refused, was I wrong? Does this happen frequently? With the speculation of the card readers gathering information, it's the last place I want to be connected to.
Can we get transparency from the TA on the different types of market rate units? We know Tishman Speyer BlackRock aggressively pushed out rent stabilized permanent tenants to replace them with different types of market rate renters. We all know the market rate units were not performing causing the downgrading of the property for Tishman Speyer BlackRock Investors.
What are the different types of converted Market Rate Units?
Which are underperforming? overperforming?
Who or What is renting the underperforming and the overperforming market rate units?
How big a portion of the converted units are families? corporations? hospitals? universities? Surely the underperforming and least desirable tenants are the families and the most desired are the corporations, universities, hospitals.
http://www.costar.com/News/Article/Watch-List-Sept-28-Oct-4-Tishman-Speyer-Blackrock-Deal-Downgraded/
$5.4 Billion Multifamily Purchase Slow To Meet Expectations
It's been almost two years since Tishman Speyer's/Blackrock Realty's paid a jaw-dropping $5.4 billion for the Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village property, Manhattan's largest apartment community at 11,227 units.
And the latest indications are, the purchase hasn't yet lived up to its expectations.
Standard & Poor's Ratings Services last week lowered its ratings on 22 classes of commercial mortgage-backed securities (CMBS) that hold debt tied to the property.
The primary driver for S&P's downgrades is a reduction in the estimated value of the 10.2 million-square-foot complex on the East Side, which has declined 10% since its purchase, according to S&P.
S&P's revaluation of the property incorporated the borrower's Dec. 31, 2007, and June 30, 2008, financial statements, the August 2008 rent roll, current market occupancy and rental rate information, and estimates for conversion costs and recapture rates.
The drivers of the valuation decline include the following.
Normalized operating expenses that are 11% higher than anticipated at issuance. Utilities, advertising, and marketing have been the main contributors to the increased expense.
The costs associated with converting rent-controlled units into market-rent units have been 11% higher then anticipated.
The number of units that have been converted to market-rent units has been within expected range; however, the composition of the converted units has not been evenly distributed between the various unit types at the properties. Therefore, average rental income at the rent-controlled units is 10% lower than anticipated.
https://town-village.com/2017/06/07/tenants-association-asks-blackstone-to-keep-associated-in-stuy-town/#more-15973
I have a reply, but also a wait and see attitude. I will note that Associated has said it will lose business across the street, and they are correct.
>>Interesting enough while walking my dog around the Oval, I was approached by 2 older men that requested the use of my card to access the bathrooms. I refused, was I wrong? Does this happen frequently? With the speculation of the card readers gathering information, it's the last place I want to be connected to.<<
You were not wrong at all. Point them to the PS office.
>>It has come to my attention that Blackcock and our avaricious overseers will once again attempt to sneakily get a liquor license for the 5 PigStuy Turd Café. Under the guise of just another "amenity". Now the college bros won't have to leave the premises to get loaded. Woohoo! Just remember you heard it first here.<<
Just from viewing the activity at the Cafe, I would say they are losing business. A lot of people just want to use WIFI and sit around with their one cup of coffee. The business is going to have to respond some way and booze is the way to go.
Reminds me that they have no way of telling if the requests for coffee or anything else is "for residents and their guests".... Wink-wink, as always.
June 8, 2017 at 9:00 AM you were right to do that. Property Managers use employed people to try to get residents to use keycards to access to private places to set those tenants up for eviction as "danger" to the community. It is a sleazy property manager scam to disparage your standing in the community and damage your ability to rent anywhere else. DO NOT LET ANYONE USE YOUR KEYCARDS!
As to a census of market rate units, the TA will never get into it. Just look around you. the market rate units are dorm, dorm, dorm and all sorts of airbnb type rentals. In addition there is Section 8. Families and professionals are few and far between. Why would the TA expose Blackstone!
Drinking age in New York is 21
Parents may not like seeing photos and videos of drunken underage StuyTown campus if it is even allowed for a university campus to have alcohol-serving-bars on private dorm property.
Walking home to my apt. last night. Nice big pile of shit in front of cafe. Piss all over the piss walls around the cafe and study. Didn't Rick Hayduck say that there was to be no pissing ON buildings in the sty?
Overheard in elevator: Two young guys with humungous dog: "Do you have someone for your place this summer?" "Yeah, got two sublletters for the place."
No wonder this is a shitshow. Management doesn't know or care who lives here just so long as the rent is paid and we have no idea who are neighbors are. The only people that Management keeps an eye on are the longtime elderly tenants who are real RS. Those people they watch for signs of impending death. They drool as they see an older person slowing down or looking ill.
If Five Stuy is looking to get a liquor license I fully expect the TA to put up a fight, as they did with Chipotle. Oh wait, that would mean going against Rick and management, so we know that would never happen.
Their whole Associated facade is just that, a facade. They know exactly what management has planned, so they can come across as fighters. I think any realist knows Associated doesn't stand a chance...
I had to read the NY Times bullshit article several times simply to wrap my head around the fact that there is someone stupid enough to pay over 5 grand a month for a two bedroom in ST. Now I get why those people on the TA blog defend themselves so strongly. I mean if I paid anywhere near that amount I would be a fool (by my own admission) and I would feel the need to BS to try and get people to stop calling me an idiot. Sorry to make them feel even dumber but what they pay is almost double what I pay for rent on my real 2 bedroom, my garage space and my mortgage combined. The TA nuts would call me greedy but since I am not wealthy I simply call it smart, especially since I bought the house as an investment in 2008 and it has nearly doubled in value since I bought it! So, to recap, I get to leave ST on the weekends and hang at the lake while making money and paying less than half what MR idiots pay. Sorry you're so stupid that you make poor economic decisions and then try to blame everyone else because you are so...well, stupid. Major fail!
Target and Traders Joe are opening in 2018 at Essex Crossing and 14th street here and all over the city. Serious kickbacks must be in play for this unprecedented and prime, retail expansion.
Was just on Roosevelt Island. Now, that's an oasis.
DO NOT EAT AT THE 5 TURD STUYVESANT OVAL CAFE.
My husband and I had one of their "artisanal" treats and, lo and behold, we both had a severe case of the Hershey Squirts.
Just another "amenity", eh, Rick?
I like it when QOL issues come up on the TA FB page, and Peter Stuyvesant is nowhere to be seen (playground 7 construction). These should be battles being fought by a normal TA, but our TA is probably the most incompetent TA in the country.
Well, we do have a letter from the TA!
Yes, anytime a QOL issue appears on their site, the TA ignores it. They stick to safe and often inane topics. Shows what they are all about. What a joke they are.
A letter from the TA stating what? That if we don't mail in their form that we will be on our own when it comes to MCI "battles" versus the landlord? I don't need to pay $50 to be on the losing side either way!
June 8, 2017 at 9:59 AM
Please elaborate.
6/9/17 7:05 A.M.
Like!
If you do decide to put a link to the city council districts on the left column front page here is a really good blog with truths about the city council.
http://citycouncilwatch.net/
7:05 AM, our so-called TA is not so much incompetent as it is in collusion with the Management that is harassing us with the never-ending noise, churning and generally substandard qualify of life.
I don't know what they get out of it, but it sure as hell is nothing that benefits us.
There are so many infractions of the "rules" here that it is only frustrating. Not funny any more, if it ever was.
Management and PS doesn't really care, not enough to go after the infractions.
But the photos will continue.
>>Well, we do have a letter from the TA!<<
About an "affordable" grocery store in case Associated goes under.
>>Management that is harassing us with the never-ending noise, churning and generally substandard qualify of life.<<
Some residents will accept this state of things willingly. But it is a disaster if one looks at the "rules."
June 9, 2017 at 7:54 AM and June 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM
Haven't we seen this PR maneuver before? This TA letter is like a councilman letter on the bunker. The TA letter is to make the TA appear like they strong-arm muscled the property services but more likely the property services knows they will lose money and risk bad pr with an empty storefront during the months it takes to get anyone to lease a space across from Target / Trader Joes. The letter is likely a PR ploy to get the TA to look like a strong hero and to help the property services save face by giving Associated a year or two slow death extension. It is the same PR stunts from these folks who share the same PR firm, de Blasio's "Agent of the City" Berlin Rosen.
What does this remind you of?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riis_Houses
http://docomomo-us.org/news/small-town-in-town-preserving-public-housing-in-new-york-city
http://smalltownintown.wixsite.com/home/jacob-riis-houses
http://www.laguardiawagnerarchive.lagcc.cuny.edu/NYCHA_PHOTO_GALLERY.aspx?GalID=14
There's been "some talk" about Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village over at the TA site on whether the complex should be considered, historically, public housing, so a trip down memory lane....
STR, it's a slummy ole project! Packing it with students has not raised the tone one little bit. It used to be a nice, safe, middle-class residential complex and a true Oasis in The City. Not now. Now, it is a shit-n-piss splattered dorm dump and everybody from outside has access and brings their dogs (and maybe even themselves if they're loaded) to relieve themselves. It bears very little resemblance to the place it used to be and has gone down the toilet. Of course, I don't have to tell you that. You know already.
How fast Architectural treasure Stuyvesant Town Peter Cooper village goes form seeking Landmark Status to "Public Housing" following a mortgage shell game.
Stuy Town and Peter Cooper Village were once the envy of many because the rents here were inexpensive and the community worked. Now, because of the dollar sign and the necessary desire to make more and more, we have lost what we had. It was a "housing" complex but well-run and the residents were generally well-behaved. It now has turned to something else, and even affected negatively many of our "old-timers." Residents new and some of the old accept the downgrade, and some consider it an upgrade. But look around. It's never been this bad. And fuck the amenities.
This. This is why NY is top three most corrupt states in the country and we have piss poor quality of life.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2017/06/09/ny-lobbyists-earned-new-record-2016/102677896/
Right on, STR! They can stick the "amenities" up their asses! They are not really amenities, but desperate ploys to pull in more dollars. Anyone would think that Blackstone/Tishman Speyer were in desperate financial need. They are just pikers, grifters and the lowest form of life on the planet. May they rot in hell.
The Crusties are here. Filthy slobs with dogs hanging out in front of our buildings on 14th Street. Just be careful of them. I threatened a couple of them with calling the cops tonight. They moved away, but not without telling me how wrong I was to judge them. Hey! You are fucking in plain sight on the street and taking drugs and have a couple of hungry and angry dogs, you are not up to anything good. Where is "Public Safety?" Why aren't these people being chased away or turned in to the cops?
What amenities STR, those amenities that they use to entice renters are pure crap. Some of them, such as the concerts are actually annoyances. I cannot believe that they are advertised as "amenities".
12:18
I spoke with someone who had a similar experience last week on 14th, with drug addicts hanging around and shooting drugs in plain sight ON OUR PROPERTY! She called the cops (didn't even bother with PS), but the group dispersed before the cops got there.
The SLA is out of control with liquor licensing practices coincidentally politician's spouses and pal's have big money liquor contracts. Politicians making money,liquor companies making money, quality of life for constituents range from serious quality of life problems to dangerous criminal activity sharply increasing.
http://nypost.com/2017/06/09/city-basically-ignores-tens-of-thousands-of-noise-complaints-report/
>> May they rot in hell. <<
Well, that's not my attitude. However, they work for Blackstone and get their pay checks from Blackstone. I don't work for Blackstone. ;-)
Again, this morning I am a witness to so many infractions of the "rules," that by now I can consider the people representing Blackstone typical BS-ers. Yeah, there has been some noticeable PS presence around the Oval, but unless you are on a riding bicycle and pass by a PS officer, nothing will be said.
As for lanyards and Rick's second warning--forget about it!
"The SLA is out of control"
Symbionese Liberation Army
Property Managers use employed people to try to get residents to use keycards to access to private places to set those tenants up for eviction as "danger" to the community.
Of all the tin foil hat conspiracies, that takes the cake. Do you really think that would stand up in Housing Court? That a judge would actually evict a tenant for letting an old man into the bathroom?
Atomic Man do you have any idea who you are dealing with when it comes to some certain landlords and property managers? If you give your keycard to that "old man" who then goes into the bathroom to deal drugs, do drugs, perform lewd acts, does any damage to the property in the bathroom, or commits any crimes then the person who gave them keycard access is on the hook. Do you really think your landlord wouldn't file a criminal complaint against the tenant or initiate a civil case for damages? Do you think landlords would bother with housing court when they can file criminal charges or easily go after tenants for thousands of dollars in gebbia small claims court or whatever court takes bigger claims? Would you put it past the security system to not catch the "old man" because the ten minutes he was on the property they were doing whatever they do when ten minute crimes are committed when they have your keycard as proof of your part in what happened?
Ha! You can call me any name in the book, just say it to my face. The shit here smells like MRAs. They can't use their FB accounts because they would called out on. Always nice for the sad and lonely to have a place to hide.
June 6, 2017 at 5:08 PM
I'm not on facebook as I have a real life--and I wouldn't be on the PCVST TA page anyway as it's a bunch of Blackstone asskissers trying to justify their own stupidity to themselves-- but I read here, I'm a woman, there's no chauvinism in this blog. You want to do something for feminism? Why don't you read up on the increase in rapes in gentrifying neighborhoods? Why don't you write to the Town and Village when some stupid bitch writes a letter about how the victims should blame themselves for drinking alcohol? I never drink, but I'm not gonna use that to justify PS's appalling laxity, laziness and total incompetence. Or to feel smug and superior to these sad, stupid NYU students. yeah, those girls may be dumb, but there's a problem here with this uptick in rapes and assaults. This is a recent trend in criminal activity. Something is wrong here, you STUPID BITCH. It should concern women, but those dumb cunts at the TA are more concerned with secret money stashes and vacation homes in Aruba. I'll say it again, if you still don't get it.
Just tell us who and where you are, and I'll be happy to show up and call you a dumb cunt to your face, when I have some free time to spare for you.
The Crusties are here. Filthy slobs with dogs hanging out in front of our buildings on 14th Street. Just be careful of them. I threatened a couple of them with calling the cops tonight. They moved away, but not without telling me how wrong I was to judge them. Hey! You are fucking in plain sight on the street and taking drugs and have a couple of hungry and angry dogs, you are not up to anything good. Where is "Public Safety?" Why aren't these people being chased away or turned in to the cops?
June 10, 2017 at 12:18 AM
I gotta say, this is an interesting trend indeed. They've been on the south side of 14th street for decades. First time I've seen em moving to the north side. I can't say I'm particularly threatened or bothered by them specifically, but this is absolutely a bellwether for the type of neighborhood we're now living in. And an increase in transients, however innocent they may themselves be, is gonna be indicative of an increase in crime.
Called PS for something unrelated a few weeks ago--it always takes them half an hour to show up, if they show up at all. Assholes.
The TA nuts would call me greedy but since I am not wealthy I simply call it smart, especially since I bought the house as an investment in 2008 and it has nearly doubled in value since I bought it! So, to recap, I get to leave ST on the weekends and hang at the lake while making money and paying less than half what MR idiots pay. Sorry you're so stupid that you make poor economic decisions and then try to blame everyone else because you are so...well, stupid. Major fail!
June 8, 2017 at 2:52 PM
Ha! I love this. I'm not fortunate enough to be in this position, I have only my apartment and a middle class income, but good for you. This is perfectly legal. Long live rent control. Suck on it, all you Tenants ASSociation shills. (This is my family friendly version of this message, for all you sweet sensitive souls out there
It's rent stabilization.
>>I'm a woman<<
My but what salty language!
We have to tone some messages down...
"but I read here, I'm a woman, there's no chauvinism in this blog. You want to do something for feminism? Why don't you read up on the increase in rapes in gentrifying neighborhoods?"
Well said June 10, 2017 at 4:23 PM
The increase of serious crimes against women is alarming and deeply troubling. It happens here and as pointed out in "gentrifying" areas by the revolving door between the NYC Economic Development corporation and the politicians. It is pervasive in the real estate - wall street industry culture especially .... well let's not name names YET.
What triggered that rant by ole potty-mouth gal? And what/who are MRAs? Someone, please do explain to me what that firestorm of rage was all about!
If the crusties are going to plant themselves on the North side of the street in front of Stuyvesant Town buildings, then it does bother me. It bothers me very much. I will call PS/Security whenever I see them planted in front of my building with the drug paraphynalia and unfortunate dogs. They can be menacing and they are filthy and probably have every cooty in the world living in their filthy clothes and filthy hair. I want to be able to leave and enter my building (especially at night) without having to practically trip over these lowlifes. If PS won't summon up the balls to send them away, then I will call 911. They are on Blackstone property when they are sprawled up against the fences. The sidewalk extending to the service road is Blackstone property and Blackstone needs to take responsibility for keeping the sidewalk and steps and disabled ramps clear and safe for tenants to enter and exit their buildings.
http://www.fox5ny.com/news/256533368-story
Garodnick = REBNY
Wake up, NYC!
June 10, 2017 at 7:32 PM A photo would achieve a lot more than a 911 call.
This is historic abuse of power of their offices, by all the incumbents, that surpasses Boss Tweed. The Garodnick = REBNY giggling gala photo will forever live on in infamy. Thank you for posting the gala photos STR and exposing the truth.
Had the pleasure early this fine morning at 5 AM of being awakened by 4 of the Pig Stuy's best tenants. These 4, who appeared to be part of the student demo, were having an extremely loud conversation in front of my building. This went on for about fifteen minutes.
Garodnick = REBNY
Garodnick = REBNY
Garodnick = REBNY
Garodnick = REBNY
Garodnick = REBNY
Garodnick = REBNY
Garodnick = REBNY
Garodnick = REBNY
Garodnick = REBNY
Garodnick = REBNY
If you gave that salty lady a time and place, Buffalo Bill would show up demanding you put the lotion in the basket.
All these "I'll just call 911" responses are pretty funny. Go ahead call them, sometimes if they have no jobs they'll show up but most of the time they call PS and hand the job down unless it's a priority.
Why is it that whenever I walk within this property I always see piles of shit but never see a Stytown security guard? I never see them anywhere within the oval, no matter the time. Furthermore, why isn't the TA making inquiries regarding this, and why are they attempting to shake me down for $50.00?
Garodnick is a sleazy REBNY tool and I just can't wait for him to go away. I will vote for just about anybody who opposes him or I won't vote at all. Blloomberg, De Blasio and Garodnick have destroyed this city by being the rent boys for REBNY (take that whatever whay you want). I am waiting for another photograph of Garodnick sitting on speer's lap at the next Liars Ball.
SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT AN MRA IS OR I'M GONNA SCREAM!!!!!!! I only know the term as a Magnetic Resonance Angiography. What is it in Sty-speak?
STR, YOU must know. Tell me quick before I need an MRA of the above description!!!!
"Why is it that whenever I walk within this property I always see piles of shit but never see a Stytown security guard? I never see them anywhere within the oval, no matter the time. Furthermore, why isn't the TA making inquiries regarding this, and why are they attempting to shake me down for $50.00?"
Because the TA is USELESS and simply a tool of Management. Many of us are sickened and disgusted by the piles of shit that are liberally dotted all over the project. Even by the Five Turd E-Coli Cafe. I wouldn't eat there if they were giving the food away for free and I was starving!
>>SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT AN MRA IS OR I'M GONNA SCREAM!!!!!!!<<
Don't scream. Remember our "good neighbors" policy.
As to the question, I think only our original poster knows.
June 11, 2017 at 11:00 AM smells like desperation. they likely lack membership numbers to remain in existence despite they have big$ amounts coming in from city council payoffs. they should shut down or be shut down for failure to achieve results and just go away before a lot of truths come out about how they conduct themselves.
Maybe MARKET RATE ASSHOLE?
Just a guess.
The TA is a lost cause. Do not know why it even exists anymore, except to cowtow to management. I did have a positive experience with a public safety officer who responded to my third complaint of downstairs brothers smoking fruity tobacco. He was the only one that responded forcefully and thoroughly. So far so good, no problems in the last week and at least I know that it is on record. Interesting that Rick Hayduk's assistant at the Thursday tent told me that there was nothing they could do about it and refused to follow up on it. It is my belief that Blackstone encourages the officers to look the other way and ignore dorm infractions. I was lucky to get this officer in response to my call. There are some good ones.
June 11, 2017 at 6:47 AM It is a pathetic, worship love of money and fame. This blog had his number for years. He may love the camera but the camera does not love him. The truth of the ugliness, the anti-middle class community bias inside political offices will be exposed along with other prejudice and bias. He is the quintessential case study of a politician making his constituents lives worse while enriching himself.
I believe I have to change a bit the front page to show how Blackstone has failed this community, or what remains of this community.
I know I shouldn't go out at this time of day, but the weather!
Seen just in a short space of time:
Two dogs about the Oval Fountain.
One Lord of the Flies kid playing with the plants and soil near the fountain. The soil is now spread outside and looks ugly just lying there.
Bicycles riding around the Oval.
No PS officer in sight.
I am very disappointed in some of our neighbors. They seem to enjoy the filth and squalor. Perfect tenants for Blackstone!
Yes, it is amazing to me how many tenants love Blackstone and Rick. They get offended when management is criticized and see Blackstone as a departure from the previous evil owners. They say that this management responds to their complaints, but do not seem to realize that their complaints are getting more numerous as core issues worsen. The answer I seem to get when I criticize Blackstone is that it is the same all over the city.
"I am very disappointed in some of our neighbors. They seem to enjoy the filth and squalor. Perfect tenants for Blackstone!"
It is now as bad as, if not worse, than a public housing project. People who object to this dump being characterized as being part of the projects: suck it up.
Overheard in the elevator this evening:
"I can't believe how many babies and little kids there are in this place. The student life office definitely didn't mention this."
The two NYU bros (they both had NYU Athletics shirts on) didn't realize I was listening (had headphones in) or that I have two children. I had to let these two know that these babies and kids have been around a lot longer than the NYU dorms.
Our esteemed councilman and TA have sat by and let NYU completely take over this place without so much as peep against them.
Once in a while, you will catch me sleeping. Other times I will enforce "the rules." But they are my rules stated on the main page, atop.
Of course, there are Rick's rules, but they are different than my rules. And I am not Blackstone or PS.
"They say that this management responds to their complaints, but do not seem to realize that their complaints are getting more numerous as core issues worsen. The answer I seem to get when I criticize Blackstone is that it is the same all over the city."
Maybe it is the same all over the city, but if that's the case, then Blackstone has no business hawking this dump as being an "oasis" or any better than all over the city. This complex was always different than it is all over the city. Now, it's a dorm/project shit hole. Thank you Blackstone, TA and Danny Rebny.
Thank you Blackstone, TA and Danny Rebny.
..and Tishman Speyer whose close relationship with the Governor and Mayor is the biggest problem the city and PCV ST face.
The two NYU bros (they both had NYU Athletics shirts on) didn't realize I was listening (had headphones in) or that I have two children. I had to let these two know that these babies and kids have been around a lot longer than the NYU dorms.
NYU Athletics...LOL
Isn't their team name the Violets..LOL.
Must strike fear in their opponents hearts....LOL
Anyone else notice how the new blue and green Metlife logo and the blue and green Metlife Brighthouse logo and the StuyTown shell company Brickman Group ValleyCrest Cos Brightview golf-cart groundskeeper company are alike? Just saying.
June 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM and MetLife too. It was their selling pitch and they had already converted 30% of the apartments to market rate when Tishman Speyer stepped up in 2006. Metlife already tried and failed in a big way to turn the property into luxury hotels thus the "sale" to a very long laundry list of investors and more that came on board along the way from bottlers-distributors to casinos to foreign governments..all the usual suspects who invest in casino hotels.
Maybe MARKET RATE ASSHOLE?
Isn't that redundant?
Too much!
Have started talking to real estate agents in Fl, GA and N. Carolina.
Cannot wait to leave here with all the noise, dogs, pot, lack of sleep and write to tell everyone - it can be done! QOL is more important than a cheap rent.
PS. Rick has been very helpful addressing my issues when I spoke with him on two Thursday nights. I'm surprised he didn't respond to the pot complaint from a tenant. Pot is still illegal in NY unless it's for medical reasons.
June 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM and MetLife too. It was their selling pitch and they had already converted 30% of the apartments to market rate when Tishman Speyer stepped up in 2006. Metlife already tried and failed in a big way to turn the property into luxury hotels thus the "sale"
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