As I sit outside Stuy Town, I notice certain things. One of the things I notice is how friendly and unfriendly Stuy Town is to residents. We can talk about how Stuy Town is primarily concerned about money from residents, but it also has other things that residents should be thankful for.
One of my eye-openers happened near the end of last year. I fell. It was a nice day and I decided to walk to Chinatown, using a foldable shopping cart to help me along and insert whatever when I would get there. Good idea, it seemed. But terrible outcome. The streets and particularly some corners were getting to be more of a physical nightmare. By the time I reached Houston Street, I was knocked down. A pedestrian took the blame, but I didn't know if it was him or me. I turned the corner, but that was as far as I could get to Chinatown. I decided to head back. Walking, of course. Then I fell again at a corner several streets away. Either I was too tried or my muscles gave way or mentally I surrendered.. Thankfully, a few New Yorkers, young too, helped me to sit on a small plastic chair that they grabbed from the coffee shop nearby.Then another young man spent time to flag a suitable taxi, even though he was on his way to work. I was able to get in the taxi and head back to Stuy Town. I was feeling well, but when I got out of the taxi, I couldn't make it. I fell again in front of my building. Two Public Safety officers came. I was actually in a good mood with them and joked around while I waited for my energy to return to head back to the building. But, after this and that, I finally was home. Safe and sound.
This was the start. The next two months or so, I didn't leave the building, and either called the deli for food or used my roommate to get things for me. With Covid, much had been set up to get things online. So I got familiar with that process.
I wasn't going to rush, however. Slowly I went outside in front of the building, with a walker now. Things proceeded. The Oval, Trader Joe's, Target.... I am exercising more and lessening the mental hangup that still hampers me. But I did notice certain things. Not only are the city streets difficult with a walker, but a lot outside, except for sitting, is a pain in the neck or legs.
This gets me to the gravel around the interior of the Oval. Though the gravel is less than it was, it is burdensome. Not just for walkers. People with shopping carts, carriages, etc. But Stuy Town wants a certain look. But that look with gravel on walkways is a handicap for those with mobility challenges.
Beware of leaf blowers, though. There are a lot of fallen leaves and these guys do not care that much about the dust and dirt flying around.
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 570 of 570"Funny, because I'm here (for over 35 years now) because of a ST Italian-American who was friends in ST with another ST Italian-American family."
Go back a bit further. The Irish were here before the Italians. There used to be a great deal of prejudice against Italians at one time and the Irish were the biggest perpetrators.
My parents were born and raised here and they had some memories that could have filled a book. And not an idylic presentation of the place
Oh, God. Stop it with these accusations that are just gossip and presented as the absolute truth. It's sickening by now. Really. Stop it. Even if everyone is secretly gay and meeting in boats and dancing the lambada naked, so what?
>>STR, do a bit of Googling.<<
Done that many, many times even before this "discussion"... As I said, if you have some genuine info (like photos), go to the FBI. They should be interested. Otherwise, you are wasting your time here with anti-Irish, anti-Catholic posts.
I was born in Dublin and raised Catholic and was the victim of and witness of extreme abuse by nuns and priests. I will say no more except that I have never forgotten or forgiven.
Full disclosure; I’m not the same poster as the one you were addressing before!
>>I was born in Dublin and raised Catholic<<
I was raised a Catholic. Went to a Catholic Elementary School. Taught by nuns. Then two years of a Catholic high school. Taught by Brothers, a lower version of priests. No problems for me. I do live in Stuy Town, and have for over 35 years. I know of Italian-Americans here. They were probably the original tenants in the place. So I know that it is not just the Irish here in those days and no other Catholics, which has been stated as the truth. No retraction yet. I also can get suspicious of any statement that is said here, anonymously. :-)
Hoover, Cohen, Spellman, and Hagedorn all believed that their "enemies" were gay (despite their own sexual orientations) and/or "communists." Catholics who lived in ST were afraid (or 'persuaded' not) to send their kids to NYC public schools--when those were still decent--for fear of being 'contaminated'. As someone else has alluded to, the Irish had been treated horribly back home by the English. They then took their anger out on everybody else after immigrating to America. But maybe Epiphany Church & School, closer to the 20th Street side of ST, had a more 'progressive' outlook than IC? All this has nothing to do with possible photos of Spellman or Hoover, STR. The only time Irish and Jews ever came together in ST was when JFK visited while running for President. (Let's not analyze the latter's sexual proclivities here!)
You think 35 yrs. is a long time? I know of Original Tenants (1947). And went to public elementary school here--the only Italians in my class all lived BELOW 14th Street. In junior high school (as it was then called), was just one Irish kid who lived in ST. Guess his parents weren't afraid of Christ-Killers and Communists being there, too....
I don't believe anything I read anywhere 100%, anonymous or not. But, as in civil court cases, believe it's a preponderance of evidence that counts....
Spellman was a homosexual predator, I read it on the internet, it must be true.
But being a homosexual predator today, as opposed to in Spellman's time, is a good thing. We now have drag queen story hour, which everyone must accept as being good and wholesome. Ignore the fact that three of these drag queens are now being prosecuted for child porn, it is a good thing.
Not to change the subject about IC, but isn't there a very nice Catholic school on Second Avenue, not too far away? I think it's called Epiphany. Hopefully, that one will not be closing.
STR, you are no doubt a great deal younger than I. What they did to children when I went to school in Dublin would have them behind bars these days. And I'm not talking about the kind of bars that we Irish are for famous for our fondness of!
I remember a Catholic priest telling me once: There are three great mysteries in the Catholic Church that even the Pope doesn't know the answer to:
How many womens' religious orders there are;
Where the Franciscans get their money; and
Whether the Jesuits are good or bad.
He said it tongue in cheek, of course.
>>What they did to children when I went to school in Dublin<<
Dublin is a long way off from Stuy Town, and there are (or should be) legal matters that can deal with what happens there.
>>You think 35 yrs. is a long time? I know of Original Tenants (1947). And went to public elementary school here--the only Italians in my class all lived BELOW 14th Street. In junior high school (as it was then called), was just one Irish kid who lived in ST. Guess his parents weren't afraid of Christ-Killers and Communists being there, too....<<
Somehow my post on this is not clear. Though I lived here 35 years, others, of Italian heritage, were original tenants. So, yes, ST/PCV had such tenants.
>>Not to change the subject about IC, but isn't there a very nice Catholic school on Second Avenue, not too far away? I think it's called Epiphany. Hopefully, that one will not be closing.<<
Yes, Epiphany is still around. For now at least.
>>Catholics who lived in ST were afraid (or 'persuaded' not) to send their kids to NYC public schools--when those were still decent--for fear of being 'contaminated'.<<
This sounds ridiculous to me. Kids went to Catholic school not because of fear of being contaminated, but because the parents felt these schools were better and not as lousy as public schools, a reputation that public schools had then and even more so now. I was one of those kids, as were black and Hispanic kids. If one could afford it, and one was a Catholic, parents sent kids to these schools.
I should note that some public schools are better than others, mostly because of parent involvement.
I'm curious as to why this blog, a healthful and therapeutic space to share our thoughts and feelings about life in Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village, as well as life in general these days, has suddenly become pages of such anger and vituperation.
The human animal, or human being, if you prefer, has ever been prone to defining itself as belonging to whichever group, and then often vilifying, demonizing and otherwise hurting humans in other groups. And, individuals, too. That's part of who and what we are.
I would think that all of us who live in these two developments have enough trouble and heartache living here to occupy our writing and reading on this blog without looking backward with such bitterness.
I'm another one of the oldsters living here. A childhood friend who fairly recently found me briefed me on the horrors committed by a close and beloved friend with whom we went to high school and spent many, many happy hours.
He turned into what any of us would brand a monster and became nationally notorious. I was horrified, saddened, and spent entirely too many hours trying to make sense of both his behaviors and our/my inability to suspect him of the ability or proclivity to commit such atrocities.
I gave up thinking about it because it was an exercise in futility and worse.
'nough said.
I'm starting to not let through certain posts, as the "discussion" is getting more than silly now. This blog is about ST/PCV in particular and sometimes what is happening in the city that affects us in ST/PCV. Other concerns, another internet place (there are many).
Let’s get back to NOW! Anybody got heat this morning? Surprisingly, I do! Wonders will never cease! I wish the heat was consistent.
Well, I survived another heat and hot water shut down over the weekend.
The building engineers pre-heated the building (HAHAHAHAHAHA)
Sevice was restored. Yes the hot water is back, but I think we now have less heat than we have had all winter.
This weekend the cold was impossible, as was the lack (again) of heat in my building, which was turned off for a time while ConEd did its work (again).
9:25 AM here: The heat didn't stay on for long. It's been off for a while now and my apartment is getting as cold as ever. Back to the space heater for livable comfort. I wish they would get their act together here. To HELL with the f*cking concerts! Make this place livable, for crying out loud!
This "Management" is despicable when it comes to the way they parse the heat. The worst "management" we have ever had and if you complain you get nothing but BULLSHIT from RS. The people in RS have been trained like parrots. They just recite the same ole shit all the time.
I wonder if Kennedy lives on the property? I rather doubt it.
Pipes have been cold for a long time. No heat. Meanwhile the city is preparing for a snow storm.
Where is "our" TA on this? There should be an automatic rent reduction for every time there is no heat. We are freezing.
The pipes are hot. For now.
Meanwhile, relevant Facebooks report that Schwarzman "earned" an extra $billion this year. He is just as evil as some of the less-immediately-relevant famous people talked-about here previously. Profits from tenants' misery, and has zero interest in complaints of any kind.
Kennedy probably has an apartment 'reserved' for her (as "Welcome Home") in PCV, but never actually uses it. Same as all her illustrious Beam predecessors.
I have had no heat all day. Living in STY Town is like camping out.
Good question, STR. The TA has always been very uninterested in the heat (specifically lack of heat)’and I’m guessing that the board members all have plentiful heat or they just put up with the situation so as not to rile
Management. Of course they
did organize tours of the heating system at one time which was not a good idea. We don’t care how it works - we just want it to work! I’m surprised they didn’t offer a tour of the sewer too.
>>I’m surprised they didn’t offer a tour of the sewer too.<<
LOL!
I had an issue with an outlet in my apartment. On occasion (not every time) when I plug something in I see a flash and hear a pop and all the lights go out. So I call Stuy Town and make an appointment. I am at work during the visit so my wife tells the person they send the issue. He proceeds to turn the lights off and on multiple times then declares everything is good and leaves. He never checked the outlet. You can't make this stuff up.
At the time I went to public schools in the 50’s and 60’s the public schools were excellent particularly if you were in the advanced track. Great teachers, great education. JHS 104 was a brand new fine institution. My friends went to Immaculate Conception mainly because their parents wanted them to have a deeper religious education for the most part and felt more comfortable with a Catholic School. PS 61 and PS 40 were exceptional schools with great teachers.
Just want to commend Beam for a change. I had a plumbing issue with my tub, texted last night and called early this morning. The rep was pleasant and helpful. The call was picked up in two minutes and the plumber came this afternoon. I have heard so many complaints about service here, but that is one area I am satisfied with. Perhaps the work is not as good as it was years ago, but they are generally prompt with service.
Went down to put our recycling last night. I don't know why I bother, things just dumped in any container and food garbarge strewn throughout.
As usual, I feel sorry for the porters.
TA, if there really is one, was totally useless in helping us with the heat issue. As was Councilman Powers. His office took complaints but did nothing. It is sad that we received no
help on this issue which is essential to health and welfare. Actually unbelievable. I have had generally adequate heat this season for the first time in a long time, but I know that others are still suffering.
"Went down to put our recycling last night. I don't know why I bother, things just dumped in any container and food garbarge strewn throughout."
I put everything except glass (or sharps) down the chute. Sharp knives,scissors, etc., I bind with sticky tape before putting them in the metals recycling bin, but I very rarely need to dispose of such items. I take glass jars, bottle, etc., down to the recycling area and leave them in a bag by themselves rather than thrown them in with all the other dreck. That way the porters can identify them immediately.
The property is no longer a residential community for regular working people, professional people and people raising families.
It is a badly (VERY BADLY) run off-campus, unsupervised dorm for undergrads and there are very many transients living here. I think Management is in the AirBnB business. We don't know who our neighbors are (probably not people we would care to know) and where they're from, what kind of background checks (if any) have been run on them. The only checks that this greedy, incompetent bunch of traveling circus crew who "run" this place care about are the checks you take to the bank.
This is the absolute deliberately constructed "management" and mode of managing that Blackstone/Beam is noted for throughout the world. Sloppy, lazy, incompetent, party planners who specialize in Bread and Circuses manner of "managing" while the property slides down the gutter.
Our elected officials are probably on the Blackstone/Beam payroll.
"Went down to put our recycling last night. I don't know why I bother, things just dumped in any container and food garbage strewn throughout."
The past few weeks alone, out of the compost bin, I removed a bunch of Polystyrene packing pieces, as well as a tied-up white plastic garbage bag full of mixed garbage. And a house plant complete with plastic pot! Many times before this, I have removed plastic containers full of food from the compost bin. A neighbor tells me of similar experiences,and she too removes inappropriate things. I have to wonder at these people who seem to have a problem separating their recycling, are they really that thick? Or they simply being antisocial or malevolent even?
>We don't know who our neighbors are (probably not people we would care to know) and where they're from, what kind of background checks (if any) have been run on them. The only checks that this greedy, incompetent bunch of traveling circus crew who "run" this place care about are the checks you take to the bank.<
I don't know where it stands, but our city councilman (Keith Powers) sponsored a bill forbidding landlords from conducting background checks.
"I don't know where it stands, but our city councilman (Keith Powers) sponsored a bill forbidding landlords from conducting background checks."
That idiot has NEVER done anything useful. A total waste of space.
This makes interesting reading - and note the standard responses from "owner"
https://www.yelp.com/biz/stuytown-new-york
Background checks would be difficult here because they really don’t know who is living here. It is over half dorms with students coming in and out and Airbnb. So transient that background checks would be a waste. As for the recycling, most of these tenants are students and transients and could care less.
Keith Powers has been seen canvassing on the property AGAIN! First time he did it we felt like we were being stalked. And his people prowled the buildings all the time. If I run into him or his little helpers in my building, I’ll have just two words for them - and the won’t be “Good Day.”
I just have to vent or I will explode! What is wrong with these postal and FedEx workers that they cannot read and, even if they can read, they are too damned lazy to bring a package to the apartment door? The USPS delivered three of my packages today to my upstairs neighbors door. FedEx left a package in the lobby and a neighbor was kind enough to bring it to my door. I am so sick of these lazy, useless creatures.
Because I'm recovering from surgery, I have to order groceries online. It's not like we have a decent supermarket in easy walking/delivering distance and I can't carry heavy stuff at the moment anyway.
The only delivery service that actually delivers to the apartment door is UPS and, unfortunately, most vendors tend to use FedEx or the Postal Service. Useless, lazy b......s. They get paid to do a job and they should do it and do it properly. Dumping people's purchases just about anywhere is not what they are paid to do. If they are illiterate or semi-literate, then they should not be employed in jobs that require basic reading skills.
Powers appears to be seeking a higher office. Ads and promotions of himself all over the city. Perhaps looking to go to Congress? I’m my opinion he has done very little for this community in terms of heat and oval noise issues. At least Garodnick started out OK until he linked with Beam and the TA for that deal with the devil management. I am tired of reading the endless Powers promotion articles with photo ops whenever he can get them.
>>The only delivery service that actually delivers to the apartment door is UPS<<
My favorite is when the Postal Service crams into your mailbox something that is boldly marked "Please Do Not Bend," front and back--and it's now bent, of course. This has happened to me, and not just once. That said, your normal carrier can be quite good, but he or she is replaced at times, and the sub can be desperate and bends.
What is he canvassing for? He recently won re-election. Poor excuse for a council person. Shameless promoter of himself.
Is it true that someone on the TA Board was friendly with Jonathan Gray of Blackstone? They were neighbors in the Hamptons. The Board Member suggested that Blackstone buy it .
At the time, I was working for a major law firm that numbered among its clientele Tishman Speyer and Blackstone and Wilbur Ross. It represented many major corporate entities, including Lehman, Chase, Citibank and MetLife.
My boss was the most senior managing partner and I started working for her when she was fresh out of Law School
and we both retired within a couple of years of each other. Shows how old and ancient I am!
Anyway, I remember that Wilbur Ross was VERY anxious to buy PCV/STUY, but he got outbid.
Whenever my boss (who I loved) went to Court with Stephen Schwartman when she called me from the Courthouse to say she was on her way back to the office I would tell her to go home first and bathe in Holy Water. I offered to order some from St Pat’s. I know she would just roll her eyes😂
I worked for her for 40+ years and knew her reactions to my smart alec remarks.
Best boss in the world ❤️❤️❤️
7:30 p.m.: Very interesting, and entertaining. I worked in too many similar firms, law firms representing some of the most damaging people and corporations and other organizations in New York City and the country.
Thank you for that description.
REGARDING BLACKSTONE: PLEASE, I IMPLORE EVERYONE WHO READS THIS THERAPEUTIC BLOG TO WATCH THIS MASTERFUL AND BRIEF (7 MINUTE AND 16 SECONDS) SUMMARY OF WHO AND WHAT "OWNS" OUR HOMES. ALSO, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THIS INFORMAION AS WIDELY AS POSSIBLE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-XH_l-c30k
Its title is: EXPOSED: Blackstone’s Evil Scheme to Profit Off Every American Crisis.
PLEASE WATCH, LISTEN TO, AND ABSORB EVERY SECOND OF THIS youtube video.
Maybe it will give us some ideas.
The screaming undergrads are out in force on the Loop. Great place to live if you have to get up early for work or have small children or a baby who you need to sleep and stay asleep. Biggest regret of our lives was moving in here. Can't wait to get out and will warn anybody who asks that this is NOT a good place to live if you want a safe and peaceful home. Oh, if you would also like some heat in cold weather. I am assuming that this place wasn't always such a dump or people wouldn't have stayed as long as some of the older people have.
Totally inept and useless management and unscrupulous and misleading liars in the renting office.
It's not enough that they put a dog shit patch under our windows, now I hear that these Carnival Cruise assholes are putting a cafe right at the back of the Associated space. Right under our windows. I wish hell and misery on the desperate money-grubbing Carnival Cruise rejects who "run" this place. They are running it into the ground. No wonder they can't get people to rent here (and at the rents they ask) and have to depend on AirBnB and students. Nobody in their right mind is going to pay top dollar to live in this milked-to-death dump.
That video says it all! What I wish on Schwarzman and his ilk would not be approved for publication by STR! Let's just say I don't wish them health and longevity! They are Satanic Filth.
>>It's not enough that they put a dog shit patch under our windows, now I hear that these Carnival Cruise assholes are putting a cafe right at the back of the Associated space.<<
That's the plan, but so far nothing real has been done. Maybe in the summer?
">>It's not enough that they put a dog shit patch under our windows, now I hear that these Carnival Cruise assholes are putting a cafe right at the back of the Associated space.<<
That's the plan, but so far nothing real has been done. Maybe in the summer?"
Wouldn't eat at one of their shitteries if they giving the food away for free.
People on the Tenants (not TA) Facebook are complaining about the tyrannical (their description) censorship! I guess the Very Sour Martini and the other guy are back.
Another major fire (in the Bronx) sparked by an e-bike being charged indoors. I absolutely dread that this will happen here because we have so many of these damned e-bikes and scooters. I wish Management would ban people from having them in their apartments and make instant eviction the penalty for breaking that rule. Maybe they could make people store them and charge them in one of the bike rooms.
This place is so horribly unsafe these days. We have no sprinkler system, no security cameras in the halls and staircases, strangers roam the halls and staircases looking for packages to steal, PS is ... well, do we actually have a PS other than for window dressing? And we have a revolving door tenancy of god knows who and what. We even have human shit and piss in the stairwells and dog shit in the elevators and halls.
Try getting renters insurance when living in this place. Impossible.
8:22 p.m.:
I'm the person who began the thread asking who is censoring (and deleting comments) on the Tenants (not TA) Facebook. It appears that the Holy Peter-Stuyvesant Dictator already deleted even that thread. I was gratified, and encouraged, though, that my e-mail notified me of other people registering distress at the censorship.
I politely asked that question rather than writing WHO THE HELL DELETED THE YOUTUBE VIDEO DEPICTING THE PREDATION OF BLACKSTONE AND SCHWARZMAN?
The video I posted here, on March 4th, was the same I posted there and was disappeared in less than 24 hours.
For health reasons, mainly physical, and also because I need some peace and quiet at some point in my day, I take walks at night now in the vicinity of the Oval. There is sometimes precious little peace and quiet, and I anticipate something like complete deprivation of such once hordes of brainless jackasses are outside 24 hours a day in warmth and heat (thank you climate change, and thank you more Blackstone's THIS IS A FUC*ING CIRCUS).
In addition to just plain people walking respectfully outdoors, and idiots who know nothing about decent and considerate behavior, I've experienced the noise and spectacle, and sometimes danger, of the following and do not understand what is happening:
CHILDREN.
Young children, even VERY young children and INFANTS. Outside at night, in the winter, in temperatures of 40 degrees in the dark, in wind, at night, in the cold.
Some of them ALONE - playing ball, running, screaming. In RAIN and in SLEET. And IN SHORT SLEEVES. Dancing.
School nights.
EVERY NIGHT. No matter the weather conditions. Mothers or other people wheeling tiny infants in carriages. Groups of "families," of so called "mothers" and/or "fathers" RACING AROUND THE OVAL ON BIKES, SCOOTERS AT NIGHT with children who might be all of five years old.
I could list the permutations and combinations and behaviors - but not necessary.
AT NIGHT. IN THE COLD AND SOMETIMES INCLEMENT WEATHER. ON SCHOOL NIGHTS. ALONE, IN GROUPS, IN CARRIAGES, WITH AND WITHOUT ADULTS CARRYING ON DANGEROUS BEHAVIORS.
What the hell is going on?
March 5, 2023 at 8:40 p.m.:
Blackstone, Schwarzman, probably so many people who are part of this organization of violent criminals, including the carnival huckster, might either not give a good goddamn, or actively celebrate a serious fire in a building here.
Humans with too much money and/or a lack of critical thinking abilities have become lazy beyond comprehension, and arrogant and thrill-seekers, and the exceedingly dangerous motorized machines of all kinds which they wield are one example.
As so beautifully narrated in the YouTube video posted here on March 4th, the "owners" and bastards making decisions here ENJOY and MATERIALLY "PROFIT" FROM THE HELL THEY CREATE FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
Ergo: if lithium batteries in motorized (potential) death machines spark fires here: GOOD! And, the more quickly buildings here can be either demolished or gutted for Blackstone's purposes, the better.
"I'm the person who began the thread asking who is censoring (and deleting comments) on the Tenants (not TA) Facebook. It appears that the Holy Peter-Stuyvesant Dictator already deleted even that thread. I was gratified, and encouraged, though, that my e-mail notified me of other people registering distress at the censorship."
Peter Stuyvesant is the moderator on the TA Facebook. I don't know who the moderator is on the NOT-TA Facebook. I think it is somebody named Martini and a Ed Dunn. I never look there anymore. Not worth my time.
"Ergo: if lithium batteries in motorized (potential) death machines spark fires here: GOOD! And, the more quickly buildings here can be either demolished or gutted for Blackstone's purposes, the better."
That is a horrible thing to say. As shitty as Blackstone is, I don't believe they would rejoice if the place went on fire. Schwarzmann may be the Son of Satan, but that doesn't mean that the people who work and even manage the place are cut from the same cloth. In fact, many of them live on the property and would suffer the same fate as the tenants. If such a horrendous tragedy occurred here there would be NOBODY rejoicing except for maybe a few with truly evil hearts.
The person who was asking about the censorship on the Non-TA fb has been banished! Oh Boy! The greeting for those mods should be Heil!
"As shitty as Blackstone is, I don't believe they would rejoice if the place went on fire."
1970's landlords were burning their own buildings to the ground in large parts of the Bronx and Brooklyn.
People who work directly for Blackstone--with exception of the unfortunate porters--are indeed "cut from the same cloth," IMO.
The person who was asking about the censorship on the Non-TA fb has been banished! Oh Boy! The greeting for those mods should be Heil!
True! They are not moderators. They are Stasi! They really missed their calling because if they could speak Russian Putin would hire them in a second. Total control freaks in need of treatment and medication.
4:54 PM "Horrible thing to say. . ."
I agree wholeheartedly. It IS a horrible thing to say.
What is MORE horrible is the truth of it. The "workers" here are wage slaves. They are simply trying to survive and perhaps a bit beyond that here on earth on the physical plane. I do not refer to them as desiring people (and other living creatures) to suffer and/or die.
Those who "manage" it, truly "manage" it? Well, I know, on a personal basis, several of them. Do you understand what the terms "psychopath" and "sociopath" mean? Maybe, even a rare case here and there, "sadist?" One "management" person, in particular, whom I've observed suffer character deterioration as he was given more and more ability to lord over others, make decisions which adversely affect hundreds or maybe more people. His ongoing actions might have contributed to . . . well, I'll say, to the worst outcome possible for someone.
And other clinical descriptions of those worse than the above, those who DO derive pleasure in causing other living beings suffering.
People can be born depraved and destructive; people can develop those characteristics and deepen them through various experiences.
The people I mean when I write "Blackstone," I mean a whole long terrible list of twisted, sick people in positions of "power" in the Blackstone Group.
If I could find, again, some of the coverage of Blackstone's practices, you might just change your mind about whether some of Blackstone's "people" would be happy about the elimination of whatever (other living beings) get in their way.
I am truly sorry that my species can produce something this ugly, but it does. People who live here surely would not want to see a building up in flames. But some others? We live in a very troubled place in a very troubled time.
I don't think a ST or PCV building will go up in flames. Hard to do that, too, with the stone construction here. Most, a lithium battery will explode. Fires, if they happen, are limited to the apartment with smoke reaching neighbors. No, that I'm not worried about. What concerns me is the "rules" of this place being continually broken, so that there is either danger or its threat. Seniors, in particular, have to watch out. As for Blackstone and their higher ups, what is in their hearts (and each heart is different), I don't know about. Only be vigilant.
STR - Many years ago, in the early 90's, I watched a blaze, shooting out of a high floor window in a building across from mine on the 14th Street Loop.
At least one room in that apartment went up in flames. I do not understand your minimizing that reality.
In addition, the apartments have been destroyed here and made into deliberate fire hazards.
STR, these apartments are not as fireproof as they used to be. So many of them have been chopped-up and the wall between the kitchen and living room removed and a counter type of arrangement installed. I would hate that because I had a door put on my kitchen years ago when I had toddlers running around and I love that I can close it and keep the smell contained to the kitchen when I am burning something on the stove!
With all the shit that happens here, we are not safe anymore. Remember Sulphuric Acid Kid? He killed himself (I think) and almost took out his room mate and a firefighter. This place has not been safe since MetLife sold it. At least "Mother Met" did care about our safety and our sanity. Many of the employees lived here too and got apartments at a special rent. I miss those days. No dogs shitting all over the place, beautiful trees in the Oval and no braying, screaming drunken undergrads. OK, so I'm an old fart! I make no apology for that!
There was a fire in my building a few years ago. Some students (who were a total pain in the ass from the get-go) were burning candles and set fire to the place. The apartment was gutted and the downstairs neighbor (who was a professional artist) suffered a lot of damage to her apartment and a lot of her work was destroyed. We have no sprinklers here and, while I know that sprinklers can do considerable damage to stuff, I'd rather be showered to death than burned to death.
Are they finding it so hard to get real tenants that they have to rent out apartments to students and be a de facto off-campus dorm? Hard to believe that there used to be a very long waiting list to get into this place. I guess that was when the apartments were affordable and not tarted-up to appear "luxury" and the rents became insane. Whatever anyone pays here at "market rate" can get a much nicer place elsewhere.
The quality of life here has declined dramatically since MetLife had to sell. If my rent was $2000 a month for my legitimate two bedroom I would move out of here in a heartbeat.
"The quality of life here has declined dramatically since MetLife had to sell. If my rent was $2000 a month for my legitimate two bedroom I would move out of here in a heartbeat."
I guess this is an attempt at sarcasm.
Maybe $2,000 a month for an apartment here is not sarcasm. After all, the extreme and too often continuous stress, disturbance and downright danger deliberately created by Blackstone means the following: WE ARE LITERALLY PAYING PEOPLE TO HURT AND HARM US EVERY DAY IN OUR HOMES.
$2,000 for a two bedroom apartment here is cheap, considering what rents are in NYC these days.
>>the extreme and too often continuous stress, disturbance and downright danger deliberately created by Blackstone<<
I must live in a different building. Though I have several issues with the way this place is run, or not run, I do not experience the troubles you do.
If there ever is a major fire here, we can be sure that Vasquez will be there, blasting out "Disco Inferno" by the Trammps (1976) from amplifiers!
I’m in a one bedroom unrenovated and I LOVE my apartment and Stuyvesant Town. I’m not moving out unless the bulldozers come through. Rent a tad under $2k. Best deal in the world.
Apart from wishing for a little more heat in the cold months, I have absolutely no complaints. ❤️
Not sarcasm. Truth.
STR, do you still think the events of Jan 6, 2022 was a just a peaceful protest?
Danger: if you have even one person in your building with any wheeled vehicle in their apartment such as an electric scooter, you are in danger. Those lithium batteries do what they do, no?
ALL of the bikes, includes "manual," and other VEHICLES on the pathways can KILL you; can severely and permanently paralyze you, cause you to hit your head and become comatose, etc.
The transients and vagrants and such are all potential thieves, rapists, violent lunatics these days, which abound and multiply in NYC. Unless your particular building is guarded at all times in all points of entry, then you could be harmed or just robbed and such. IT DIDN'T USED TO BE THUS.
The remodeled apartments have some open kitchens, wooden doors, and the like. And tons and tons of idiots of all kinds here who are careless or maybe drunk or drugged or just don't give a damn at any specific moment. Think: fire, explosions (remember our meth lab?).
I am too tired after a miserable NYC day to continue the list, but you get my gist, I think.
>>STR, do you still think the events of Jan 6, 2022 was a just a peaceful protest?<<
Why "still think"? No, the events were not "just" a peaceful protest, but there were a lot of people at that event who were peaceful.
I've pretty much lost track of what this thread is about, but I think that $2k per month for a 2-bedroom, even if unrenovated, is a pretty good deal. They are charging $4k per month for one-bedroom units that are renovated. Those are DEFINITELY not worth that kind of money. I don't care what other places are charging, but $4k for a one BR here (or anywhere for that matter) is sheer price gouging.
The noise tonight (inside and outside) from those damned bastard kids is really getting my nerves. Why should we have to live with unsupervised undergrads when we are paying so much money? They really need to stop using this place as a dorm. If it's going to be a dorm, then use it for graduates who are somewhat more mature than these shrieking drunken mutts.
Just read on the non-TA FB that the fake grass they are using for the dog-shit areas is carcinogenic. Why couldn't these losers just leave the grass alone? God! I hate the stupid, clueless losers who run this place. ST used to be covered with REAL grass before the parasitic predators took over. I wish they would all pack their shit and go back to being third rate pub managers and cruise ship djs. They are destroying everything that was and is good about living here and replacing it with total garbage.
The moderators on the TA site were just as bad. A couple of years ago they banned me because I would not discuss my criticisms of them with the moderator. Actually I think I quit, who were they to have me explain my valid criticisms to them. For a while I could read the posts but not comment. Now you have to join in order to read the posts. The posts have become mostly fluff, photos, classifieds and other crap. I left the other one because the moderators, especially the woman were nasty and TA all the way.
Yes. They have to create dorms and Airbnbs. People will not pay 4,000 and over for a project with no amenities. They have a good thing going.
The only reason why we old timers stay. The rent for us is decent, although living conditions here are getting so bad that if I were younger I would move.
Depends on your floor and upstairs/downstairs neighbors. I had miserable students downstairs with noise, pot smells, partying about three years ago. Knock on wood, my floor is decent and no problems lately with downstairs.
Heat is an important issue for health and comfort. Once again it depends on who lives over and under you and your floor. The place has really gone to hell. I like my apartment, but the environment is nasty with the students, dogs, and oval concerts which are miserable in the summer.
"The moderators on the TA site were just as bad. A couple of years ago they banned me because I would not discuss my criticisms of them with the moderator. Actually I think I quit, who were they to have me explain my valid criticisms to them. For a while I could read the posts but not comment. Now you have to join in order to read the posts. The posts have become mostly fluff, photos, classifieds and other crap. I left the other one because the moderators, especially the woman were nasty and TA all the way."
Are you sure you're not speaking about the NON-TA Facebook? The TA Facebook moderators may ban you from posting, but they don't block you from being able to read the posts. That is Ms. Fuhrer on the NOT TA Facebook. I think the Dunn guy does it too. Both have God complexes and the woman is just plain nasty. You can say something totally inoffensive, but if it bugs her in any way she will banish and block you.
"Heat is an important issue for health and comfort. Once again it depends on who lives over and under you and your floor. The place has really gone to hell. I like my apartment, but the environment is nasty with the students, dogs, and oval concerts which are miserable in the summer."
You're right. The management of this place just stinks. Stinks of incompetence and uncaring. I don't think there is an actual Property Manager. I don't know who runs the place. I just know that it gets more and more noisy, tacky and DIRTY all the time. The carpets are absolutely FILTHY in Sty Town. I am really embarrassed when I have company over. I wonder if they let people view the apartment they will be renting or if the suckers have to sign a lease sight-unseen? Market rate people don't stay long. For what they pay and for what they get, I doubt they would move in if they knew what it is like.
You can read the not-TA fb if you are not logged into your own fb. Btw, it's no longer moderated and is full of ads that don't belong there. It has gone to rot, like everything else around here.
There's a long thread about the dog-relief places. This place was a lot better before dogs were allowed, but it was better run in every way back then and the grounds were immaculate. The porters used to mop the floors on each floor on a regular basis and you could mop it yourself too, if you felt so inclined. The carpet rules were enforced, as were the noise rules after a certain hour. Now they have quality of life rules, but none is ever enforced. They just don't care. All they care about is putting warm bodies in the units and collecting as much rent as they can.
In all honesty, I don't think they choose the most intelligent of their employees to work here in senior management positions. Hayduk always struck me as being not the sharpest knife in the drawer and what has followed him ..... Well, I won't comment further.
Those Oval concerts are execrable and we should not have to put up with them. They are intrusively loud (as are the movies at times) and attract more people from outside than they attract residents. Also, it gives thieves a heads-up that there are a lot of people not at home at the time. Stuyvesant Town is becoming more and more of a tacky public park. If they put in that cafe/bar in the space behind the place where Associated did business that will be the final kick in the crotch to tenants who live in the nearby buildings. God! How I despise the parasitic losers who run this place. Running it into the ground rather than running it as a residential property where people live and call it "home." The Pub Manager and the Cruise ship idiot are only passing through. We are living our lives here.
Huge German Shepard running off leash, barking like mad at 1:45am this morning up on playground 1 in ST. Thanks to all involved in ruining this place.
"Huge German Shepard running off leash, barking like mad at 1:45am this morning up on playground 1 in ST. Thanks to all involved in ruining this place."
I hope you called PS. The people who run this place haven't got a clue (not even the slightest clue) as to how a large residential property should be run. They are going to run it into the ground like TS did. Stupid, unprofessional losers. They should have stuck to running cheesy resorts and stinky pubs.
Google Siobhan Kennedy and see what she does best. Running a residential property is not one of her strong points. Running a resort or leisure property is what she's good at. She's not qualified to be running a property in a big city where people have to get up and go to work every day and are NOT on vacation. We need somebody who is attuned to running a multi-occupancy RESIDENTIAL HOUSING complex in a BIG CITY where there is plenty of "off-campus" entertainment. I am so sick of the constant push for "amenities" that we don't need or want. It's time the City enforced some regulations pertinent to residential property. We don't need any more loud, obnoxious "entertainment" and certainly not another cafe, especially an outdoor cafe with a booze license. Blackstone failed in its attempt to build a power station on the property (and that shows how much respect they have for people living here) and it should fail in its attempt to turn the property into an outdoor amusement park.
Blackstone is notorious for treating tenants like sh*t and having no respect for human (or any form of) life. It's time the politicians we voted for finally forget about their [obvious] bribe income and actually start representing those of us who are suffering under the thumb of the people feeding them their gelt.
Why the Hell did the TA welcome Blackstone in the first place? Surely they knew its reputation.
34 degrees and howling wind. We have no heat, but we do have plastic grass covered in dog shit. How lucky can we get?!
VERY Blackstone approach to Luxury Living!
That was the last TA meeting I ever attended, where they along with Garodnick welcomed the evil new owners with great flattery and praise. Soon after I stopped paying dues. They are actually an arm of management and have been for a long time.
In the Directories in the outer vestibules, I see some apartments listed with 14th Floor addresses (in Stuytown). I thought the 12th Floor was the top floor. What am I missing?!
In Stuy Town or Peter Cooper?
Oh, I didn't read that you said Stuy Town.
Luxury Rooftop Honeybee Penthouse Hives
"Luxury Rooftop Honeybee Penthouse Hives"
Ah! That's who lives in the 14th floor apartments! And they get Amazon deliveries too!
14th floor: that's a good one.
The floors are: M T 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12. That adds up to 14 floors. M (Main) and T (Terrace) are the 2 floors added to the numbered 1-12.
The top floor, then, technically, and structurally, IS the 14th floor.
It gets tricky if you want to claim we have 14 floors, then, because there just ain't no (bad English deliberate) 13th floor.
I will admit, though, that one elevator in my building once registered "13."
In the intercom directory there are apartments listed as 14B, C etc.
Look and see for yourself
Unbelievable crap on the non-TA fb. It needs a moderator. Badly needs a moderator. Doesn't have to be Ms Fuhrer, but it needs a moderator!
There's no 12th floor in my bldg in Stuytown. T, M and 1-11 floor.
Maybe PCV is different.
"In the intercom directory there are apartments listed as 14B, C etc."
Oh, boy! I'll look. This is nuts. Or does this mean some people have "penthouses?" Seriously.
"Unbelievable crap on the non-TA fb. It needs a moderator. Badly needs a moderator. Doesn't have to be Ms Fuhrer, but it needs a moderator!"
Could you please specify which postings, which topics.
I apologize for sounding misanthropic, or grumpy, or "negative," but this species (us - humans) has for a long time not been among my favorite species. I feel for folks, and offer help of all/any type frequently.
But, we are truly a scourge on this planet, and do heartbreaking and appalling damage. And so very many of us are just plain STUPID and superficial - which has been increasing exponentially since computers came onto the scene. Therefore, if there is dreck on the other blog - an accurate depiction of much of who/what human beings are.
Calm down March 16 8:22 PM. The stupid posts on the non-TA fb were quickly removed. I guess there is a moderator who checks in from time to time. Not healthy to get so worked up over nothing important. And the TA and Non-TA Facebooks are most certainly not important. I check them maybe once a week.
I can't believe the things that go on here. It is truly Looney Tunes Central. On the non-TA Facebook there are photographs of somebody sticking a shower head out the bathroom window and soaking the entire line going down. I kid you not!
I moved in when it was frequently voted the best-run apartment complex in NYC and it lived up to that accolade. Now, OMG! there aren't even words! It is probably one of the worst privately-run housing complexes in These United States!
Who are the cretinous morons who rent here now? Who are the EQUALLY cretinous morons who manage the place?
I heard that some media company is making an expose documentary about the place. Can't wait to see it --- or even contribute to it!
A shower head stuck out of the bathroom window is a minor problem compared to what else goes on here. And if there is "an expose documentary" in production now, Blackstone will ensure that it's never released.
OMG! Do they ever need a moderator on the non-TA fb page! If Adam Rose is not a moderator, they should beg him to
become one!
There are some nasty haughty hags posting there to sell their shit!
STR, I was just re-reading your introduction to this particular thread and am wondering how you are feeling now. You said you had several serious falls in one day and stayed home for quite a long time. Are you better now? I do hope and pray that you are. Somehow, I don't know what age group you are in, but I had always thought of you as being "early middle-age" from the way you write, but maybe you are a bit older. No, I'm not asking you to reveal your age! I just hope that you are now in better shape than you were when you started this particular thread.
Wishing you Blessings and Good Health.
Thanks for your thoughts of concern. I am improving, going out daily, doing exercises (though I should do more), etc. Not where I want to be (I think it's a lot of people's issue, no matter what the case). I still need a walker, which has made me far more sensitive to the older population, but I am doing well considering. No one at a certain age likes to fall and not be twenty or thirty anymore!
I do get upset at knowing that some people are too embarrassed to go outside with any mobility aid and be seen by others. I think that is a normal apprehension, but it is important to do as much as possible, despite what you think others may think. Screw them! But I have experienced more people being considerate and nice than I thought before. Even young people, at least in my building, are very obliging and nice.... One of the things I have seen, and not just once, are those electric mobility scooters. Yes, in Stuy Town! And every time I've seen that, it has been a younger person in them and not an "old timer." And I am not talking about the usual electric scooters that we see all over the place....
https://nypost.com/2023/03/20/new-york-tops-list-of-least-affordable-states-to-retire-in/
Just to show what creeps live here: Tonight about 9:30 PM I heard someone at my door trying to force it open and banging. I yelled through the door, “hey what are you doing”. She answers laughing “Oh sorry, wrong apartment.” She sounded high on something, young voice , probably a student. They don’t even know their own apartments.
"They don’t even know their own apartments."
You are so right. Years back, and it was prior to Blackstone's predations, a workman living in my building related concern about a young woman who'd entered the elevator with him late at night. She seemed extremely drunk or high so he watched to see which floor number she pressed. (I'm pretty sure he described her as a student.)
He was about to go to his apartment when the thought of her so inebriated nagged at him so he went to the floor he knew she'd emerged onto to check on her.
There he encountered: the same young woman, peacefully and deeply asleep . . . curled up NAKED in front of an apartment door.
TRUE STORY.
There are plenty of other similar tales. The veteran Security Guards can relate to you what goes on here.
Drunken/drugged disoriented students have competition for bad or unacceptable behavior.
I was told by a Security Guard a couple of years before COVID-19 worsened things drastically, that each summer, approximately 100 children wander out of the playgrounds and become lost. Frantic parents or babysitters demand that Security finds these children.
Now . . . the following is not uncommon, and also occurs during the glorious spring/summer/fall mass EVENTS (better known as illegal and sometimes dangerous and always harmful DISRUPTIONS to THE LIVES OF RESIDENTS PAYING TO LIVE HERE):
Parent indignantly and angrily ACCUSES STUYVESANT TOWN/PETER COOPER VILLAGE SECURITY GUARD OF NOT LOOKING AFTER THEIR MISSING CHILD. THEY YELL WITH FURY AT WHICHEVER GUARD IT IS THE GUARD'S RESPONSBILITY TO KEEP TRACK OF THEIR DEAR OFFSPRING.
If you ask yourself what the character of some of those who live here is, think about the (illegal) HORDES of students and JAMMED-INTO-ILLEGALLY-CHOPPED-UP "Young Professionals" and also "PARENTS" who inhabit the buildings and surroundings of our homes.
They sadly are reflections of deteriorating societies in this city and so many other cities around this planet in turmoil.
>>There he encountered: the same young woman, peacefully and deeply asleep . . . curled up NAKED in front of an apartment door.<<
I need photographic proof of this. Send to my private email account.
The student SCUM are out on the 14th Street Loop braying and hooting at3am, what a shithor dorm this is,
Wouldn't you know it - Blackstone is among the predators who are trying to buy up water rights throughout the drought-stricken parts of our country and other countries on the planet. Their thirst and hunger for money is totally insatiable. These are evil entities of Biblical proportions.
https://oursantaferiver.org/the-great-water-grab-wall-street-is-buying-up-the-worlds-water/
I also live on the 14th Street Loop.
I'll offer again: I WILL POST MY NAME AND PHONE NUMBER HERE IF OTHERS WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME ON WEEKENDS WHEN "The student SCUM are out on the 14th Street Loop braying and hooting. . ."
I am volunteering to go out there to (a) confront them; and/or (b) walk into Security and DEMAND THEY GET RID OF THESE ASSHOLES AT THAT VERY MOMENT.
More than once, and especially during the hot months, I have gone to Security at night when they are "CLOSED" to us lowly residents and roused them to deal with the human garbage disturbing us.
No one has ever wanted to take action. Any takers now???
I am getting sick and tired of being awakened by dogs running off leash and barking loudly as they romp in the middle of the night. I am going to start withholding rent if they don't stop the same couple of people from allowing this nightly.
Of course it's terrible, but if you withhold rent, Blackstone will evict you. In fact, they look forward with great pleasure to it. The offenders might not even be residents. And no use mentioning that NYC law requires all dogs to be leashed....
They are going to put an open air cafe at the back of what used to be Associated. Right across from the dog shit patch. Lovely! I know I won't be shopping in that place even if I am DESPERATE! This bunch of Carnival Cruise throwbacks are the total dregs. Bottom of the proverbial barrel.
Please stop this "evict" business.
We live in a very damaging victim mentality. I'm too tired now to go into detail but the bastards aren't evicting anyone so fast. Among other things, the NYC Housing Courts are not too big into eviction these days.
All of us lose when we invite abuse. This shaking and shivering and quaking in our boots makes it worse.
The bastards have created, increase and encourage conditions which breach their contract and their fiduciary duty ALL OF THE GODDAMNED TIME.
STAND UP AND FIGHT.
I would suggest that the only way to "stand up and fight" in regard to withholding rent is to do it, and not wait for others. This is not a smart-aleck statement, but a recommendation. I would be very open to follow your rent protest and see what happens.
I sincerely wish SUAF best of luck, but Blackstone has nearly $100 BILLION in assets at their disposal.
"Blackstone has nearly $100 BILLION in assets at their disposal." at 5:32 PM on March 29th:
Yes, last I read that the depraved beings who "own" these homes is now worth close to One Trillion Dollars.
Still, I do not consider MYSELF and ALL OF US LIVING HERE DISPOSABLE.
My father taught me, long ago, that we could fight "City Hall" and win. He sometimes did the equivalent of just that.
I've had several truly grand "fights" in my life and prevailed. I won in housing court when the former President of the United States hauled me in for eviction (Donald Trump then "owned" my Brooklyn Home. He was very young then and not yet involved in politics.).
Decades later I "won" a harrowing multi-staged "war" against what turned out to be a possible arm of a terrorist organization which was not averse to murdering its opponents. Obviously, I am still alive - I'm not communicating from beyond the grave. No, I'm not exaggerating. If anyone wants the details, I would be happy to communicate them privately. It's now one of those extremely delicate and somewhat ludicrous politically correct or incorrect tales.
That harrowing incident also produced a "win" against a major CUNY college. If anyone is curious, just let me know here and I'll tell you how to get in touch with me. Actually, it's a good story.
I won against another major CUNY college, for myself and others, when they sought to defraud us out of monies earned in the production of teaching materials.
I know who Blackstone is - I read. I think.
My family worked hard to help others along with myself. They taught me that courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the will to do what is right. I do not believe in acquiescing to bullying and the infliction of harm as a way of life for others or myself.
Withholding rent would be a foolish thing to do because your lease is a binding contract and all that would result would be eviction, humiliation and a ruined credit rating. Bad advice from SUAF.
There is no SUAF.
Americans and others have become so very lazy. Using whole words and terms and sentences has become tooooooooo hard, soooooo taxing and exhausting.
Who is the Anonymous who sides with the enemy and maligns the advice of a brave resident?
I agree with 5:49. Rent strikes could never be effective here. Too many buildings and apartments. Drop in the bucket for Blackstone as there would be very few people in such a fight. Maybe with a small landlord who owns one or two properties but not here. The results could be very hard on the strikers.Furthermore, there is no chance of assistance from the so called TA or our councilman and other pols. How could Blackstone be hurt if 25 or so tenants skip rent payments.You would be lucky to get that number here.
Blackstone is another terrorist organization. Tenants ARE disposable to them. But Good Luck.
Management would LOVE it if long-time tenants went on a rent strike! They are always looking for excuses to turf them out and replace them with people willing to pay the exorbitant, over-the-top rents that newcomers pay because they know they won't be here for very long. This is not a real residential property now in the same way it was years ago. It is very much a transient "convenient for now" housing development. Nobody moves in with the idea of stay for more than one or two years. The more they churn, the more the landlord makes from these apartments. Why do you think Hayduk did away with door name plates and tenant listings in the lobbies (even though he was breaking the law with the latter)? Everybody new is listed as "Private" in the lobby and "Welcome Home" on their door. Management wants to keep churning and the longtime tenants are the main hitch in their plans. Go ahead and withhold your rent. Your apartment with be tarted up and re-rented before you are out the front door!
Regarding all of the writing about "don't cross Blackstone:"
Defeatist thinking hurts individuals, and groups of individuals.
I've been here, in Stuyvesant Town, a long time. I've been writing on this blog a long time.
Previously, and likely more than once, I've explained in great detail the reasons for AN INDIVIDUAL to withhold her or his rent payment. It has to do with un-victimizing oneself rather than forcing some person or persons to change their behavior.
EVICTION: which pundit here has been to court with a landlord? With a landlord seeking to evict them? With a landlord who "owned" Stuyvesant Town/Peter Cooper Village?
Or even been good friends with a person who has REPEATEDLY been hauled into court for eviction proceedings?
Which authority on NYC evictions can detail the process and the TIME FRAME of eviction proceedings? The details on HOW and IF a tenant is ultimately "turfed out?"
I ask these questions because I've, fortunately or no, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF EVICTION ATTEMPTS BY WHOMEVER OWNED STUYVESANT TOWN/PETER COOPER AT THE TIME.
Also, I had a friend who too often arrived at her apartment door to find the dreaded papers taped to her door. She's still in that apartment, decades later.
"Turfing out" ain't exactly that. It don't happen quickly, or easily, or expediently, nope. (Bad English deliberate here)
Luckily for whomever is so seriously and solemnly posting about the horrors of eviction proceedings following (legitimate) withholding of rent (and I think there are several posters), they likely never dealt with these issues in the past.
Or maybe not so luckily. If they knew how it worked, they'd be a good deal less intimidated by their own fantasies of homelessness courtesy of the depraved "owners" of our home.
And, yes, I know too damned much about Blackstone. I was probably the first to start posting years ago about WHO and more like WHAT Blackstone is - almost as soon as they appeared here.
You, brave tenant, will have to drag-out any eviction proceedings until at least 2035. Can you do it?
This is for the small-minded person at 7:50 PM on March 30. For your information, 2 different individuals have used the abbreviation SUAF on this blog to date. And at least one of them is over 70 y.o.. Sincere apologies for laziness (sarcasm).
I think a lot of people will be leaving of their own volition, not because of eviction. The quality of life here has hit an all-time low. "Management" does not care about our safety or comfort (e.g. the faulty heating system and the cutting to the bone of "Public Safety"). We are on our own. This is barely one step up from a NYCHA project (and I used to live in one, so I know of what I speak). All that "Management" (if you can call it that) care about is pulling in more and more suckers by touting the "events and amenities" as if this were a resort. It is no f*cking resort! It is a dirty, noisy, unsafe and thief-ridden type of housing project that it was NEVER built to be.
It is the worse place I have ever lived in and cannot wait to leave and warn everybody on this planet that I come in contact with what a total hellhole it actually is. It is filled with undergrad students from the flyover states; airbnb guests and who-knows what other dreck and dredges of humanity. It is situated in a very dangerous neck of the woods where people from outside get in as easily as walking into a grocery store (maybe easier) and the steal packages from the lobbies and then tour the floors to steal anything else they can find. They also try doors (personal experience and several others) so always make sure that your door is double-locked and keep the deadbolt on.
"Public Safety" is a joke. We used to have a SECURITY Dept. and most of the guys were former cops or had a decent amount of training by the NYPD for the job. Now they are barely-out-puberty, low paid kids who are totally out of their depth for such a job.
The people running this place are not RE Management professionals; they are cruise ship and bars and restaurant veterans - and not from the highest caliber of the aforementioned.
Big, sick discussion now on non-TA Facebook about how this dump (pun intended) is "not dog-friendly [enough]." And supposedly, NY Post's going to do an "expose" about it!
Shortly after 3 AM on Saturday night I was awakened by a dog barking and running loose up at playground 1 in ST. This is a far too common event. Blackstone: DO YOUR JOB. Find this person and stop them from this shitty activity of waking the whole playground.Check your videos for 3AM on (really) Sunday morning 4/2/2023. Follow the young lady home on the camera. contact her and stop this inconvenience to thousands of others, you incompetent morons.
No one gets evicted anymore.
Well said, April 3 at 5:38 PM. This "management" are indeed incompetent morons and so are some of the tenants. We have the lowest quality of life now that we have ever had. We are barely one notch above a shitty slum. No heat in cold months, nonstop noise through the night and rampant theft in the buildings. Add to that the dog shit inside and outside the buildings, filthy stairs with piss and shit on the stairs, as well as the occasional used condom and tampon (I kid you not) and we might as well be living in one of NYCHA's worst dumps. If we were paying NYCHA rents it would be still unacceptable, but more understandable. We are paying through the nose to live in this dorm/transient overpriced shithouse which is run by incompetent dregs of the "hospitality" trade. I dread to think what Blackstone's hotels and resorts are like, given what we've got working here. Total incompetents is a compliment when it comes to these morons. As for "Public Safety," that department is a bad joke.
If the students who live here moved into a real dorm they would have to behave very differently to how they behave here because they would be kicked out on their asses in no time.
It would be nice if they would just run this place as a clean, safe, quiet residential property - the way it was before Tishman Speyer came and took a dump in it and the stench has just got worse. This is New York City and there is plenty of entertainment and eateries available and we don't need it right literally under our noses. The grounds and the peace and quiet and SAFETY were the qualities that made this such a livable and enviable place to rent an apartment. The apartments were never "state of the art," but that didn't matter because they were large (not chopped up into cubicles) and comfortable. True, we always had lousy heat and for many years there was no air conditioning, but we had trees, lawns and a beautiful bucolic atmosphere. Now it is anything BUT bucolic and beautiful. It's a shitty, tacky, half-assed .... whatever. Very reflective of the unprofessional dopes who run the place.
I agree with everything that 9:13 says, but the heat issue. We always had good heat until Tishman Speyer took over and then it got worse after Blackstone bought the property.
"I agree with everything that 9:13 says, but the heat issue. We always had good heat until Tishman Speyer took over and then it got worse after Blackstone bought the property."
It got worse when Blackstone lowered the level to just a notch above the City's least acceptable level. The qualify of life has gone down in every way since Blackstone took over. TS were avaricious bastards, but they were not as bad as Blackstone and their Management was better. All we have now are a bunch of Carnival Cruise has-beens who are only concerned with "amenities" and tacky gimmicks. They should have stayed on the cheap resorts and pubs circuit. The entire quality of life and cleanliness and upkeep of the property has gone down the proverbial toilet since the Beam Bozos took over. They just haven't got a clue as to how a RESIDENTIAL property should be run. From fucking up the directories to sticking astroturf dog shit spaces under our windows ... not a clue as to how to run the place as a decent, livable residential place. It's like they don't expect or even want anybody to stay beyond a few months or a year at the most. I don't think they even know who does live here and who is just swapping out apartments with friends. I don't think anybody cares whose photographs are on the keycard. Who looks? I don't think PS bothers much. They are too few in number and too undertrained to be of any real use when it comes to "Security" and "Safety."
We live in an unsupervised dorm for undergrads (mostly) and "management" doesn't give a rat's ass about anything but pulling in the gelt by coming up with more and more gimmicks, which most people don't want or care about. Quality of Life is not a consideration. The heating system is a bad joke. Everybody ends up getting space heaters during the cold months. I'm surprised there hasn't been a major fatal fire yet.
Btw, do we actually have a Property Manager? Since Hayduk left we've had two who stayed about five minutes and then they stuck us with this woman from The World of Pubs. A very nice lady, but not Property Manager material and we only have her and the dope from cruise ships.
A little heat would have been most welcome today. Although it was 50 degrees (a temperature the bean-counters at Blackstone consider balmy), it was very windy. These defective windows that we are paying for forever do not keep the drafts out. I use my inside window ledges to keep salad cool rather than put it in the refrigerator. I don't open the window because there is enough cold air seeping through.
MetLife foisted garbage onto us. The windows and the heat system are both inferior, shoddy crap.
I understand that the bloody fascist Martini woman has left the non-TA Facebook. Good Riddance. However, I know several people (including myself) who would like to be able to read that site, if not comment on it, but Ms.M was not content to just block those who she didn't see eye-to-eye with (almost always over trivial matters) she blocked them from even being able to see the page and keep up with what's going on as it gets posted. I read it by logging into my husband's fb account (he isn't a member of that particular fb page), but I can't comment or join in any discussion even though I might have something to add that would be of help or interest to the members.
What is it with these people who are total control freaks? It has to be some kind of mental illness. A sort of malignant control compulsion.
Even though it is 53 degrees outside, it would still be nice to get a puff of heat. They really parse the heat in this place. It used to be so cosy to come indoors from a cold, windy day. Nowadays, it is like being outside apart from the wind!
Could someone please explain to me why our immediate surroundings have become incomprehensible, and overflowing with disturbance and insanity?
(1) Tonight, I was badly upheaved during my nightly constitutional by two little female humans of the "I'll do anything I want and if it disturbs you, so much the better" variety.
They live in 4 Oval and have been causing trouble since September, and Security does nothing to notify their parents to KEEP THEM INSIDE AT NIGHT INSTEAD OF OUTSIDE IN THE DARK AND RELATIVE QUIET WHILE THEY PLAY LOUD SOCCER UNTIL AFTER 10 AT NIGHT.
There has been trouble with their so-called parents months ago and these girls are some of the worst of the worst rotten little specimens I've come across. Brazen, nasty, taunting anyone who tries to stop them, downright vicious in their words and behaviors.
WHY WOULD PARENTS ENCOURAGE GIRLS (ONE CANNOT BE OLDER THAN 11 OR 12) TO PLAY SOCCER AT NIGHT IN CLOSED AND LOCKED PLAYGROUNDS, ON THE DARK COLD OFF-LIMITS OVAL, and AT (DARK) LOCATIONS FAR FROM THEIR HOME???
Security informs me repeatedly that these noisy-at-night, defiant, trouble-making girls are allowed to do this. Security cannot "make" them go home, as children were "made" to go home in the not so distant past. They can even bounce balls.
(2) Tonight, the same night (Sunday), two older females, probably NYU undergraduates caused such a commotion of screaming, shrieking laughter, I was convinced it was at least 3 or 4 of them. They passed me as I was walking and then commenced to spin around, twirl their bodies and hands in the air, laugh hysterically.
(3) Moments later, and on the 14th Street Oval, near Avenue B, I was astounded to see what might have been one of them, or some other young human female jumping, skipping, whirling, gyrating in the dark, toward the corner. She looked truly deranged and it occurred to me she was on drugs and maybe I ought call the police.
(4) About 20 minutes later, back in my apartment, I heard (a) not only the ball bouncing by the first young girls in the cold dark, but (b) shrieking laughter again. One of my bedroom windows revealed what might have been the older, undergraduate girls on the side of Playground 12 dancing like lunatics, doing what appeared to be an extremely fast lindy as they laughed hysterically. It might have been a THIRD PAIR of GIRLS, OR DIFFERENT ONES.
Now, at 10:36 at night, as I write this, I just heard some other idiot skateboarding.
High blood pressure, anyone? What the hell is going on here? Why? And why cannot Security stop all of this?????
Either “Security “ are too bloody lazy and stupid or they are under orders that keeping the peace is not their job. They are less than mall cops. They’re only here as window dressing..
WE HAVE NO SECURITY.
@April 10 10:57 AM: You are absolutely right. We do NOT have a "Security Force" anymore. I think it was Hayduk who castrated them and made them "Mall Cops." This is not a safe or nice place to live at this point. It is a crappy dorm. The tenants who have been here since before it ceased to be the best place to live in NYC are dying off. If they don't die fast enough, I suspect that "Management" finds ways to expedite their demise by subjecting them to the worse possible "neighbors" as well as lack of heat (deadly to the elderly) and various and sundry other malignant ploys to make their lives miserable.
ANOTHER deadly fire caused by an E-Bike battery. This latest one was in Astoria.
I really fear for my life living here because I'm pretty sure there must be bikes and scooters being charged and left alone for the duration. "Management" has posted a notice on the laundry room door in my building, but it is obscured and practically unreadable. I doubt that it is by accident that it is hardly visible and readable.
Does anybody know of an insurance company that will sell renters insurance to a tenant of this place? I haven't been able to find one.
I have called PS on occasions when I was concerned about an elderly neighbor who had cognitive issues. They came right away and were very compassionate and professional. I have also called them when I was concerned about another elderly neighbor (who has since been moved to a nursing home) and they were wonderful and came right away.
On unrelated issue, I called them and asked them to look at the camera footage in my lobby when a package I was expecting didn't show up although the vendor said it was left in the lobby. Again, they were helpful, pleasant and very efficient. I never found the package because I believe it was probably delivered to the wrong building, but I was very impressed with PS.
When you call PS, they are professional. But they do not apply Stuy Town's own rules outside. I could make a million if I charged for all the lack of enforcement here. Dogs, speeding scooters, etc. I assume they are told by the "higher ups" not to enforce many of the outside rules here.
I fully agree with you on that. They are not allowed to enforce the very rules that are supposed to protect us.
I make it a point to talk to a number of the Public Safety officers regularly - both the ones I've known for years, and the new -and newer- ones. I do this when I register complaints (often) and ask for help. And just to talk to them for a number of other reasons. I do most of it in person.
I can state, unequivocally, they are very much aware that they've had their hands tied, and that they are now considered "Helpers." They are clear on what "helping" means, and many of them, if not most of them, are clear on what "Helper" means here these days. They do help people here in all sorts of emergency situations. But enforcement of rules and regulations which ensure livability??? No, no, no. Not allowed.
For the past several months, I've personally had significantly different interchanges with them than in the recent past. Young and old, experienced veterans, or rookies, they seem disgusted, one and all, with what goes on here.
For several years, I used to be met with the stone walls of stares and declarations that "the world changed, this is how it is, New York is this way, we can do nothing about it" regarding the many problems here.
Not these days. I've been met with seeming genuine sympathy and agreement about the behaviors of most of the human beings who are here these days. More than one has told me they basically dread the warmer weather and all it brings in terms of numbers of people outside and what they do.
A younger one the other day laid out eloquently what Blackstone/Beam thinks it wants and has established here. He used words such as "smiley, relaxed, laid back, resort (as in hotel, vacation") and similar words. He spoke about his knowledge of the "old days" when people did not put their feet up on chairs, when the trees and grass and "wildlife" were all left in peace, to their own devices, when there were no dogs and their noise and waste. He was not working here then, but he's been informed by those who have been here a long time that life was so much better here than the dirty, dangerous, noisy, offensive hellhole Blackstone has created.
By and large, they are more open to the articulated misery and frustration and anger of the real residents here than they were a few years back. They do not like or approve of the conditions here any more than we do.
And, unlike Oscar Wilde's dictum, "It is difficult to make a man understand something if his salary depends on NOT understanding it," I believe Public Safety DOES understand, but will not risk its livelihood, health insurance, etc. by doing what we need done here.
I know that what used to be called "Security" are no longer permitted to enforce any rules that affect the quality of life and the rules pertaining to public safety (which is the misnomer they are called these days), but the reason is that the people who are running this place are the dregs of the hospitality industry.
Blackstone bought up all the cheap and cheesy failing resorts it could get its claws on and distributed the people who were causing them to fail to "manage" the residential properties it had also devoured. That's why we have a cruise ship dj arranging "entertainment" we don't want or need and a dopey former pub manager in charge of "Resident Lifestyles." This isn't an ole folks home or a resort, it is a multi-building, multi-tenant RESIDENTIAL property and should be run as such.
I live near where they are planning to put an outdoor cafe with a liquor license that will be open till 11 pm. My neighbors (new and old) have got together on this and plan to complain to the NYPD and the City as many times and as vociferously as we can (and we can!) if we are disturbed by this ill-conceived atrocity!
They cannot rent the apartments here unless they are City-subsidized or students. Nobody in their right mind will pay the asking price to live in such a badly run dump. Its "fame" has spread. What was once a beautiful, peaceful place with a long waiting list to get an apartment here (and not just because the rents were lower than in many other places) has now become a place that people who have any brains avoid. Maybe they get some people from the flyover states and who are taken in by the slime in the renting office, but they don't stay long once they realize what they have let themselves in for.
I've been here for 30 years and remember when it was a lovely place to live. There are still some older people on my floor, but most of the apartments are "renovated" and market rate. They are revolving door units. Fortunately, we have no students on my floor and, instead, have young professionals, but they don't stay long. Why would they? Families can't move in because the rents for those units are way too high for people who have kids to support and with all the crime and the rampant danger from speeding bikes outside on the grounds, why would they want their kids to be endangered by living here.
Blackstone is like the Vladmir Putin regime of the real estate industry. Invade, destroy and torture. That is their "business" model!
""Unbelievable crap on the non-TA fb. It needs a moderator. Badly needs a moderator. Doesn't have to be Ms Fuhrer, but it needs a moderator!""
I remember whe Ms Fuhrer and her bitchy friends were thrown off the TA FB for a while. They used to unmercifully mock certain people who posted (mostly young mothers who posted). John Marsh was the moderator then and he would not tolerate people making fun of other posters. Ms. Fuhrer and her pals were a horrible bunch. She may have used a different FB name at that time, but I KNOW WHO SHE IS and she is pleasant enough in person, but behind a false name and computer keyboard she is quite a different personality!
There was an article on Yahoo the other day all about Blackstone and how predatory it is. It was on the Finance part of the site. I’ll see if I can find it again and post the link.
See attached:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/blackstone-raises-more-30-billion-113156238.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=fb&tsrc=fb
So now "Management" is removing locks from laundry room doors. What is the purpose of that? Why don't they remove the locks to the building doors too? That would be so much more accommodating to all the thieves who like to prowl our buildings. OMG! Can't wait to get out of here!
The latest assault on our safety from this bunch of resort clowns is that they have taken the locks off the doors to the laundry rooms. That was a place where I usually felt safe because nobody meandering around the carriage rooms and recycling space could get into the laundry unless somebody let them in. In my building, people from outside can get if somebody leaves open the door that the porters use or if they follow somebody into the recycling area.
These unprofessional hospitality scene hacks have absolutely no clue whatsoever as to how a residential property (especially one of this size) is supposed to be run. They are lazy, incompetent and totally oblivious to anything and everything that has to do with tenants' safety and security.
OK, from now on I will be sending my laundry out. Another REAL amenity has been compromised. Total MORONS run this place.
Talking about laundry, the card machine has been put for nearly two weeks at least in my building. I take most of my laundry out and do only one tub down there weekly. An inconvenience.
The laundry machines are bottom of the line and it's impossible to read the white-on-white instructions on the machines. This place just gets worse and worse all the time. The losers who call themselves "Management" only know how to organize crappy events. They have absolutely no idea as to how a residential property should be run. They are the worst of the worst landlord and are notorious for being so bad. Too bad a real residential property company didn't buy the dump.
Do we actually have a Property Manager?
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