Our landlord, BLACKSTONE, can't handle Stuy Town and Peter Cooper Village. There is a lack of enforcement of certain "rules," and no amount of notice to this alleviates the problems. We are continually being told half-truths and fabrications. And we have no viable Tenants organization, despite our TA asking for dues all the time. So far, the politicians have proven to be basically useless. A typical New York story.
Sunday, March 31, 2019
The Fix is In?
Beer and wine will be sold at the failing Five Stuy Cafe. At least that is my prediction. When and if it gets official, I will repost a link to my previous main page post on "Let the Beer Flow." Because that is where we have heading.
The current Management will pull a fast one by having a "Town Hall" meeting (of course, at the small Community Center) on April 3rd. Residents will hear the reasons for the application from Five Stuy Cafe. Already posted online is the FAQ, which state that Stuyvesant Property Services (basically Manager Rick Hayduk, with Blackstone behind him) are for Five Stuy Cafe to sell beer and wine.
Of course, Stuy Town has been known as a family community for decades, and even is trying to sell that notion to prospective residents. But people know the truth. Money and more money is vastly important to the landlord (Blackstone now), and Rick Hayduk was chosen, for a variety of reasons, to make the huge pill go down.
This is what I see at Five Star Cafe. It has never followed the rule of "For Resident and their Guests," though now they were assuredly do. Five Star Cafe been a commercial space open to all, which is against zoning regulations.... Five Star Cafe may even purposefully wait for this meeting, and then thank us for bringing up the subject, all the while internally smiling that they have given in to residents. This is a ploy. Nothing more.
There are over 21 thousands residents of Stuy Town. Officially. How many go to the cafe? If you look at the number, not many. But FAQ states that cafe is popular and used by residents. BS.
We are told that the staff at Five Stuy Cafe will be trained for this new beer and wine use. Yes, trained enough to spot fake age IDs.
Five Stuy Cafe needs the money. Most people like to sit, buy something and smooch. The college set like to take out their laptops and work. They will buy something, but is it enough to keep the cafe going?
There are other rules that the cafe will try to explain way. How about the 500 foot rule that disallows the selling of beer and wine so close to certain establishments? Are playgrounds with children part of this? How about the potential of increasing noise from the cafe?
And please don't rely on Public Safety. We know their success at enforcing the troublesome rules that get continually mentioned by Management.
Wednesday, April 3th, starting at 6:30 PM. A meeting with Five Stuy Cafe. Management might be there, too.
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1 – 200 of 273 Newer› Newest»The residents of both 5Stuyvesant Oval and 1 Stuyvesant Oval are totally OPPOSED to this sham hearing. The fix is already in.
I don't think this is about making money. You don't think that the D'Agostino's supermarket on E20th paid more rent than that sad little gym ever took in?
It's about the "amenities". It's about closing the sale. We've got a pub, right on site! Concierge services! State of the art gyms!
No mention of the 75 year old plumbing that spews brown water (just periodically!) and vintage heating systems that has half of your building freezing, and the other half sweating.
Oh, for sure "amenities," too! Always with those "amenities." And Blackstone says they are thinking out of the box!
I'd like the "amenity" of sufficient and consistent heat in the cold weather. One of my babes burned her little foot by brushing against the space heater that I had to keep on to prevent us from freezing. Hayduk should be ashamed of himself. His morals must be those of Schwartzman in order to work for this outfit and follow their edicts. I have no respect for him and I don't know how he can have any for himself.
As for the TA, they are just a scam. I wish I knew which agency to contact to investigate their scam. They ask people for money, but don't do anything for those people. It is a real scam.
Atomic Man, as Rick H./Peter W. would say, it's all about "Community".
Also no mention that a sizable % of the apartments here (especially the Sty) have at least three unrelated adults living in them. On any given weekend that means up to six unrelated adults. A lot are students, many are not, they are just post college Finance/Tech Bros and Instagram/PR Hoes. Many apartments are hybrid types. Same result, adults who did not know each other until they were hooked up with a roommate referral service. A dorm style apartment. Gone after one year, to be replaced by the same demo. Gotta get that 20% vacancy rent increase for the legal rent.
Woo!
This is Speyer's plan. Blackstone is successfully executing Speyer's failed business plan. The plan never changed.
Jerry Speyer's idiot son attempted to stage a grand media event serving alcohol from the same Oval location. Just like pretty much everything else Speyer did trying to destroy our PCVST community, he failed miserably. NYPD was called after violence broke out amongst the Wall Street/REBNY predators exclusively invited to celebrate the 1st night alcohol was served there (not sure if it had a name yet).
Why is Blackstone, the world's most notorious, predatory, Wall Street vulture succeeding where Speyer failed? Unlike Bloomberg openly helping Speyer, it is lying, corrupt Democratic politicians (Garodnick, de Blasio, et al) and our hijacked, incredibly conflicted, now-Vichy PCVST TA Board, all elected to defend us against the likes of Blackstone, who instead fully support Blackstone succeeding where Speyer failed. In fact, the lying, dishonest elected representatives betraying us guaranteed in writing Blackstone will successfully execute Speyer's failed business plan to rake in multiple billion dollar windfalls pushing our historic PCVST middle class community out of our homes. They fully support Speyer's endgame - PCVST middle class extinction (never forget the Garodnick/TA Board unaffordable Brookfield condo scam).
Speyer's problem was being a financially unstable predator. The backstabbing politicians, lobbyists and Vichy TA Board members are still trying to convince us that Blackstone, being a more financially stable predator, executing the same business plan, raking in the same multiple billion dollar windfalls Speyer tried and failed to rake in while simultaneously pushing us out of our homes is preposterously somehow a tremendous middle class victory.
Lacking honest representation PCVST residents lost everything.
Drunken college bros, hooting and hollering, barf all over the place.
I am certain the residents of 5 Stuyvesant Oval are eagerly awaiting the beer and wine license.
No doubt they will be as pleased as the renters near the ice skating rink who enjoy the incessant noise of hockey pucks banging against the walls.
Another "amenity" provided by Rick, Stumbling Susan and the impotent, corrupt Tenants Association.
What a joke!
Definitely not real amenities. A sham to call them that.
Definitely many many dorm and unrelated roomies apartments. Also city subsidies though they deny it. Bros on my floor have an apartment that stinks of pot half the time. Must have finished with the inspector. Disgusting smell.
They will push so-named local breweries and local wineries that are actually nothing more then scams themselves. There was a suspicious brewery scam recently in Monmouth County with that reality tv show Shark's Tank. At least one of the smarmy slimy reality tv judges has a wine business in Canada and another has or had a liquor distribution scam sold to a liquor conglomerate for a ridiculous price, that Skinnygirl liquor by another reality tv show character. There is something rotten about the liquor business push party scene by partyboy Schwarzman and wannabe President-deBlasio. deBlasio will push through anything the partyboy wants just like he pushed through the sale to the partyboy. Next thing you know the liquor operation will lead to drug operations making and selling here on campus. Oh wait, that already happened.
SELLING LIQUOR, WINE AND BEER ON CAMPUS IS A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT BLACKSTONE AND IVANHOE CAMBRIDGE STUYTOWN DO NOT WANT FAMILIES LIVING HERE AND DOES WANT THE YOUNGER-AGED DRINKERS LURKING ABOUT.
Here is a prediction for the ages.
The New Jersey - Long Island millionaires and billionaires Hamptons wine club. Can you see it now? Longtime football and rugby loving pals launching a Hamptons Wine.
A prelude of what is to come if these millionaires and billionaires keep getting their way with what is left of our no-longer quiet, peaceful middle class enclave and torn down Oval Park.
After all, the deal to sell StuyTown was made in the Hamptons, by the East Hamptonite - tenant association treasurer John Sheehy and we all now know the type of people Robert Kraft likes to let it all hang out with.
Predicted: Hamptons Wine Coming To StuyTown with "surprise" celebrity rock concert and maybe even a few gratuitous professional football players.
Photo ops with grinning property managers and tenant association board while they make student concert goers think they are cool when aging rocker belts out "Living On A Prayer" while knowing this community is on its last prayer and old men, tenant association board and property manager tossing football with young kids. Get ready Town & Village for your next pr puff piece.
Rugby games, Bon Jovi concerts, under the disguise of "local" "luxury" Hampton Water wine.
Robert Kraft, Bon Jovi, and Hamptons Wine
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8504732/robert-kraft-jon-bon-jovi-wine-event-los-angeles
John Sheehy's gloating on making the inhumane deal with the globally-known human rights violating corporation.
https://town-village.com/2018/03/19/ta-member-blackstone/
party on all weekend BRO. Rent here if you like this 52 weekends a year! Ask landlord to step in and they will literally and truly LOL in your face.
Avoid Long Island Bedell Cellars wine if the cafe sells it.
Off topic but very relevant to StuyTown news with the UN declaration about Blackstone - Steve Schwartzman business practices effect on the world and this community with regards to our safety and the security, sanctity of our homes.
Mayor Deblasio is all about the money that will pay for his road to the White House and not at all about the well being of New Yorkers that he is supposed to be leading, governing, protecting including the right to safe, peaceful enjoyment of home.
With Mayor Deblasio in office, how can anyone feel safe after reading Mayor Deblasio's words in the speech that are so offensive to basic human rights, over 60 people signed this open letter to the Mayor and some have ties to StuyTown.
This letter is an impressive, truly progressive, example of humanity.
Mayor Deblasio is a shameful disgrace.
Schwarzman surely does not have the same experience in his 24 room home at 740 Park that he inflicts on his tenants in StuyTown.
This open letter is very well said regarding the leadership needed in government for all the people. All, equally.
The injustice Mayor Deblasio did to all of us is immoral and to some of us goes unfathomably, unimaginable, above and beyond immoral. Mayor DeBlasio is wrong in what he says and does, as pointed out in this letter.
It is shocking in a city as progressive as New York City that citizens are not free to safely, peacefully enjoy the sanctity of a home let alone the security.
It is shocking that in a city as progressive as New York City, the largest middle class community was handed with hundreds of millions in tax breaks to the world's
The UN and now this incredible truth on human rights and the sanctity, safety, security of and in our homes.
Safety for all, no matter their race, religion, gender, and such. Everyone has a right, an equal right, a civil and human right,
"Our notion of safety is a city and a world in which all people feel and are safe. Yes, that means safety through solidarity with one another. That means safety by opposing all forms of injustice, which very much includes the injustice of occupation and the denial of a people’s right to live freely in their homes and their land."
An open letter to Mayor de Blasio From your Jewish constituents
https://mondoweiss.net/2019/04/letter-blasio-constituents/
Isn't John Kraft a pedophile sex trafficker? He's friends with Sheehy? It's a known fact that we are judged by the company we keep, and rightly so.
Who would put a space heater where a child could burn themselves? This is a fake post from somewhere trying to churn the outrage. Stick with the liquor license.
ASSTURD MANAGER SEND UP SOME HEAT FREEZING OUR BALLS OFF WHERE IS THE HEAT
I just posted this at the TA FB page at the cafe thread:
"From the current T&V article for this issue:
“As far as the proposed policy for proof of residency, Hayduk added, “This is residential amenity space and has always been for residents and their guests similar to the ice skating rink.”
This is bogus. Rick, you have been misinformed. There is zero signage in the Café stating that is for “residents and their guests only”. No one is ever asked to provide an ID to purchase anything there. Re the rink, there are signs but again, no one is ever asked to provide an ID to use the rink. At one point the text language at the official SPS webpage that promoted the Café had this language but it was then wiped out. I had to get Rick to put that language put back in for the Café and for the other events here as well. There have been some red herrings at this thread re this issue. It’s not “students”; it’s not what would be a normal restaurant situation on a city street, etc. Again, the interior of PCVST is zoned for noncommercial activity, R7-2. Only "residents and their guest” amenities allowed. The Café has been in violation of the NYC zoning law from day one. It is a commercial enterprise. Here is the link to the FAQ. Funny, when they had unbelievable loud bands at the Café on Thursday nights this summer it never was bought up as per the SPS FAQ, of having an architecture designed addition that would mitigate the noise. This was bought up because SPS wants alcohol served at the Café. This is all about boosting up a falling illegal commercial enterprise that , as per that post at the STR blog, is just a marketing ploy to show prospective tents of how many “amnesties’ are provided here. EOS."
https://town-village.com/2019/04/01/cafe-wine-beer-license/
According to a new item at T & V:
>>Asked about the plan, Hayduk told Town & Village that the early response from residents has been “extremely favorable,”>>
Did I say the fix was in?
Don't complain about the inspections. They are a gift from the City, they are now mandated annually, including looking through your closets. Do you think this was done for the benefit of tenants or REBNY? Be sure to thank your local politicians.
Posted without comment:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/new-york-city-the-last-conservative-place-left/
"Who would put a space heater where a child could burn themselves? This is a fake post from somewhere trying to churn the outrage. Stick with the liquor license."
It is not a fake post and it is hard to keep children "penned." We needed the space heater to be on because one of the kids has a severe bronchial infection and we had no heat from our satanic landlord. Please yourself what you think. You don't matter.
Regarding the liquor license, I have no interest in that discussion. Have never been in the StyCaff and never will ever go there! It could burn down for all I care with or without a liquor license.
"Regarding the liquor license, I have no interest in that discussion. Have never been in the StyCaff and never will ever go there! It could burn down for all I care with or without a liquor license. "
Sorry, this is so typical of the mindset of many tenants here today. Bet if an alcohol fueled café was just outside your window, your tune would change. No empathy at all.
You know, it's funny. Except for that massive failure of that dumb alcohol allowed (was this legal?-our TA did not care) Halloween party in playground 3 in PCV, all of these Carnival Cruise events are in ST, not PCV, where SPS senior management live. And I do know that PCV playground 3 is nowhere near where they live in PCV.
Now that the inspections are over in my building, the pot smokers are right back into it. One apartment on my floor reeks of it nearly every day.
About the child who was burned by a space heater:
My heart goes out to that little one, to her parents, to anyone who cares.
To the poster who wrote insulting and uncaring words: shame on you.
Life here has become pretty damned miserable, will get way worse in the months to come, is near literally unendurable for many of us.
There is no reason for anyone writing here to express more animosity.
P.S.: That goes for whomever decided to put up an incomprehensible rant and a pack of vitriol regarding some letter of people who hate themselves. You know who you are. Shame on you, too.
Kindness is in VERY VERY SHORT SUPPLY where we live and in the air of New York City. Please try putting out some caring instead of animosity. It is greatly needed.
Thank you.
Money is not the only reason blackstone installs every kind of idiotic, illegal, stupid, asinine, dangerous, unhealthful practice it can think up.
It's been said before: the resolve to rule other people, control them, hurt them is as old as the human race. Don't mistake the desires of the likes of blackstone: harming you is high up on their "List of Things To Do" today. Again - George Orwell's infamous doublespeak is in play here.
"Leave people happier than you found them." That is the sheer idiocy they compel their workers to wear on their backs. In addition to the insult and dictatorial power exercised over their poor employees, IT MEANS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY INFLICT ON THEIR RESIDENTS EVERY DAY.
"Don't complain about the inspections. They are a gift from the City, they are now mandated annually, including looking through your closets. Do you think this was done for the benefit of tenants or REBNY? Be sure to thank your local politicians."
They are recruiting college kids to do these "inspections." Try to have a friend or neighbor with you when these assholes arrive and MOST IMPORTANTLY, if there are more than two "inspectors," make sure they do NOT split up and go into rooms alone. Make them work together and keep your iPhone or iPad on recording them at all times. Don't be embarrassed or scared to follow them and watch their hands at all times. Never, ever let one out of your sight.
Hide all money, Jewelry and anything important expensive before they arrive. Maybe leave it with a neighbor or rent a safe deposit box.
These "inspections" are not being done for the sake of tenants. They are part of a different agenda altogether.
Trust no-one who works for Management.
Real Estate Power 50 https://www.cityandstateny.com/articles/special-list/power-list/real-estate-power-50-2019-6-50.html
You may be familiar with some of these:
6. Rob Speyer
President and CEO
Tishman Speyer
A former Real Estate Board of New York chairman, Rob Speyer heads up his family’s 16 million-square-foot commercial real estate empire in Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens. Tishman Speyer donated $25,000 to Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s re-election campaign last year – and although his firm will no longer welcome Amazon as a neighbor, it remains busy with Long Island City, Queens, tenants Macy’s, Bloomingdale’s and WeWork. Speyer also chairs the advisory board to the Mayor’s Fund to Advance New York City.
14. Stephen A. Schwarzman
Chairman, CEO and Co-founder
The Blackstone Group
Stephen Schwarzman, the founder of the world’s largest private equity firm and, by some estimates, the world’s largest landlord, reportedly took home an eye-popping $786 million from The Blackstone Group last year. Blackstone manages $472 billion in assets, including about $120 billion in real estate assets. Schwarzman delegates day-to-day management to top deputies like Jonathan Gray, who negotiated the widely praised $5.4 billion purchase of Stuyvesant Town-Peter Cooper Village with New York City in 2015.
I know nothing about these inspections? Did we get information about it? How do you know if they are coming to inspect? Inspect what????
9,20 here again.
Re post your heater post and this comment "Regarding the liquor license, I have no interest in that discussion. Have never been in the StyCaff and never will ever go there! It could burn down for all I care with or without a liquor license. "
Let me clarify, I do have empathy for your child being burnt by a heater issue, it is not fake. May I make a suggestion? Although not fool proof, the Vornado line of heaters are probably the most safe, they get good ratings at Consumer Reports as well.
Re: space heaters. We're freezing. My apartment has a space heater in every room. I also have kids and pets. The heaters are not hot to the touch so if you're using the old open ones you may want to upgrade. They also shut off if tipped. Plus, we keep them off the ground as an extra layer of protection. Every tenant deserves heat (duh) but if you can't create safe spaces for the little ones, turn off the heaters, use humidifiers which keep the air warmer, and put them in layers.
"You know, it's funny. Except for that massive failure of that dumb alcohol allowed (was this legal?-our TA did not care) Halloween party in playground 3 in PCV, all of these Carnival Cruise events are in ST, not PCV, where SPS senior management live. And I do know that PCV playground 3 is nowhere near where they live in PCV."
Also the "dog events" (i.e. dogrun) in PCV playground 3 as well, for 3 consecutive Saturday mornings in March alone. Yes, "senior management" is very likely enjoying the quiet use of wherever he's moved to now. While we hope for rain to cancel the outdoor "events".
OT, some people on the TA fb were expressing concern about the animals being left behind at Petland. Some nasty little ding dong told them to get a life, clean up pollution or exercise. Same nasty little ding dong is advertising her guest room for rental on her facebook page. So entitled. So stupid.
"6. Rob Speyer
President and CEO
Tishman Speyer
A former Real Estate Board of New York chairman, Rob Speyer heads up his family’s 16 million-square-foot commercial real estate empire in Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens. Tishman Speyer donated $25,000 to Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s re-election campaign last year – and although his firm will no longer welcome Amazon as a neighbor, it remains busy with Long Island City, Queens, tenants Macy’s, Bloomingdale’s and WeWork. Speyer also chairs the advisory board to the Mayor’s Fund to Advance New York City.
14. Stephen A. Schwarzman
Chairman, CEO and Co-founder
The Blackstone Group
Stephen Schwarzman, the founder of the world’s largest private equity firm and, by some estimates, the world’s largest landlord, reportedly took home an eye-popping $786 million from The Blackstone Group last year. Blackstone manages $472 billion in assets, including about $120 billion in real estate assets. Schwarzman delegates day-to-day management to top deputies like Jonathan Gray, who negotiated the widely praised $5.4 billion purchase of Stuyvesant Town-Peter Cooper Village with New York City in 2015."
They'll all be dead and in the ground sooner or later and will not be able to take their ill-gotten gains with them. Focus on living your own life, live in "the Now" and don't waste any thoughts or feelings on the above-referenced destroyers of life.
@April 1, 9:26 PM: Thank you for your kind thoughts about my child and my situation that I have had to use space heaters this winter, thanks to our slum lords (my words, not yours). We do what we think is right and feel terrible when it turns out not to be right. My babe is fine now and thank you so much for your caring.
I don't read all the long-winded rants on this blog, but some of the links are interesting, such as the one at 4:48 PM on April 1. We are ruled by these big shots who have little or no empathy for human beings and Robert Moses was such a man. I just watched a documentary on HBO which was hosted by Dr. Sanjay Gupta (a wonderful man, in my opinion) about how the helplessness and hopelessness of the middle class who are being destroyed by big corporations, etc., is fueling addiction, suicide, etc. The worse the hopelessness and despair gets, the lower the life-expectancy gets. People like Schwartzmann, Speyer, et al feed on other people's misery. (They are not mentioned in the documentary, those are my thoughts.) It's called "One Nation Under Stress" and I think it is worth watching if you have HBO.
#1 Politicians and corporations are desperately scrambling for ways to increase the money flowing through real estate.
The liquor license is a part of the bigger "money-moving through real estate" corruption due to corrupt politicians in private-public partnerships and economic development corporations.
In the news since 2006 with Bloomberg famously saying bring in the Oligarchs are articles on StuyTown sale, Time Warner condo sales. This is common knowledge. Big crimes carried out by high ranking big corporations.
..just like the leasing practices moving money through Stuy Town leases by Silicon Valley money-laundering tech companies There are hundreds of articles on this since the 2006 sale of the biggest shell company deal in history, Metlife to BlackRock Tishman Speyer.
Liquor distribution / licensing is corrupt. Slapping a celebrity of the moment name on a wine label or using hip hop musicians to promote vodka is as credible as the other college campus frauds slapping names on brands as exposed in Operation Varsity Blues corporate sponsors promoting college campus life on social media (eg LVMH, Estee Lauder, HP, Sephora, Amazon Prime, Smile Direct Club, Unilever Tresemme, and so on.)
All StuyTown corporate landlords Metlife through TishmanSpeyer BlackRock and Blackstone Canadian pension Ivanhoe Cambridge and New York City hundreds of millions of dollars inexplicably poured into the pockets of Blackstone and Ivanhoe Cambridge in September 2015 profits are burdened to the $5.4 billion 300% inflated price.
The liquor will flow so the money flows as desperate corrupt politicians scramble.
New York City under the authorization of Mayor DEBLASIO and Comptroller Stringer moved hundreds of millions of dollars from New York City pockets of Blackstone and Canadian pension Ivanhoe Cambridge.
Now thanks to the UN it is publicly known Blackstone is a predatory human rights violator on a global scale with the largest scale real estate deal being the historic Stuyvesant Town Peter Cooper Village.
StuyTown leases and leasing practices are exposed for what they are - market rate units that are no longer purposed as homes but rather financial tools moving large sums of subsidized money from Silicon Valley tech companies through StuyTown apartment unit leases into Canadian pension Ivanhoe Cambridge and private company Blackstone.
Silicon Valley gets money from foreign countries.
How much does Community Board 6 want to say no to the license? They are for sale so let's ask Powers for how much. Maybe we can pool together enough to make them vote it down.
#2 Politicians and corporations are desperately scrambling for ways to increase the money flowing through real estate.
This looks like a money laundering op using prime waterfront real estate of 12,000 leases where a majority leaseholders are courtesy of the Canadian company Brookfield Tenant Association Partnership who do not live in their apartments.
They abuse right of passage to family to hold onto leases with permission from StuyTown Property Services managers, security.
Mayor DEBLASIO'S words cause consequences as divisive in StuyTown as is exposed in the open letter link above.
His deal with Canadian pension Ivanhoe Cambridge - Blackstone divided the StuyTown community. The Brookfield TA partnership leases at inflated market-rate units subsidized by Jetty transients or regret-filled condo convertors are now stuck paying for their selfish decisions.
The way to stop quality of life declining liquor licenses, subsidized units, etc is to stop "money laundering" leasing practices by removing and replacing:
1. "occupants" in Canadian Brookfield partnership leases with permanent residents
2. current SPS management including MetLife holdovers
3. current human rights violating owners and their partners
4. all illegal "amenities" including leased units to personal trainer businesses using the gym for nonresident clientele.
5. TA board investigations in accounting including the 2012 $60,000 "Real Estate & Construction" payment from lobbyist George Arzt through TA Chairman Emeritus-lobbyist Steve Sanders from Applied Sciences College Campus developers to Stuyvesant Town.
Until NY stops using basic human rights as financial tools-weapons for the rich to get richer, NYC's 2015 deal with the devil made by DEBLASIO will continue supporting corporate profits at the expense of constituents quality of life, safety and human rights using liquor licenses, loud concert, tourist operations from AIRBNB hotels to events, sulfuric acid operations, and much worse.
This perfectly describes the culture that the liquor license will bring to this residential community
“All my girls gotta be good looking”: The life of a nightclub promoter
2017
https://medium.com/new-york-close-ups/all-my-girls-gotta-be-good-looking-the-life-of-a-nightclub-promoter-b8c6cda7008
Then there is this from 2013 about club and event promoters.
http://adanai.com/club-promoters/
It is all downhill from here once the liquor license comes, especially for the way women will be treated.
This of course is thanks to the New York City's first Nightlife Mayor - "Office of Nightlife" Ariel Palitz
: Lauren Tamaki
Last fall, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio announced the formation of an Office of Nightlife as well as a hunt for the perfect person to lead the department, a role he called the “nightlife mayor.” In March 2018, he appointed Palitz, 47, who owned and operated the nightclub Sutra Lounge for ten years and who’s been promoting and party-planning since her youth on the Upper East Side. She’s lived in multiple apartments at the same intersection of the East Village for 20 years.
https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/how-i-get-it-done-ariel-palitz-nycs-first-nightlife-mayor.html
Nightlife promoters = free everything, alcohol, entrance, drugs,
>>They'll all be dead and in the ground sooner or later and will not be able to take their ill-gotten gains with them. Focus on living your own life, live in "the Now" and don't waste any thoughts or feelings on the above-referenced destroyers of live<<
But they can affect the here and now.
>>“All my girls gotta be good looking”: The life of a nightclub promoter<<
Five Stuy Cafe is not a nightclub. Yet.
>>This of course is thanks to the New York City's first Nightlife Mayor - "Office of Nightlife" Ariel Palitz<<
This is not an April Fools joke? Nightlife Mayor?
"Inspections" -
Some of us have received letters informing us that new New York City laws, promulgated in January of this year, mandate "landlord" inspections of every apartment to check for mold, pests, and more. THESE ARE TO BE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS.
These letters state that the inspector/s will look into all closets for mold and conditions which could lead to mold and "pests," "illegal partitions," HAHAHA! and more I'm too tired to find in the letter they presented to me. Oh, yes, another search I recall is the one in which "appliances" may be MOVED in said hunt for pests, mold, etc.
I could write a long, long commentary on this based upon my many years living here; the rot in the walls; the plumbing that is daily destroyed not by age but by the actions of the "landlord," and so forth. Maybe another time.
where is the post about the room rental on Facebook?
" Schwarzman delegates day-to-day management to top deputies like Jonathan Gray, who negotiated the widely praised $5.4 billion purchase of Stuyvesant Town-Peter Cooper Village with New York City in 2015."
They'll all be dead and in the ground sooner or later and will not be able to take their ill-gotten gains with them. Focus on living your own life, live in "the Now" and don't waste any thoughts or feelings on the above-referenced destroyers of life. "
Actually time spent on the above-referenced destroyers of life is time well spent if you have any sense of self-worth. Allowing people to walk all over you is unacceptable. Speyer and Schwarzman would never allow anyone to walk all over them because they have high self esteem as should everyone.
No one is entitled to destroy your life. No one has to take it lying down.
These men would not allow anyone to destroy their lives.
Your statement is an admission that they are worthy and we are worthless so let them trample all over us and destroy our lives.
We are not worthless. They are not worthy of the glorification heaped on them.
The UN just told the world these predators cannot destroy our lives by violating our basic human rights.
Blackstone is going down as the world is no longer heaping praise on the $5.4 billion dollar deals in 2006 by Tishman Speyer and 2015 by Blackstone. Tishman Speyer and Goodwin Procter are going down with them.
"But they can affect the here and now."
Exactly right STR. They are effecting the here and now.
Blackstone and Tishman Speyer are negatively effecting the here and now.
Here and now is the time to hit them in the only thing they care about, hit them in the wallet. Swing for the fences and hit them hard.
>>where is the post about the room rental on Facebook?<<
I saw it, too. But right now, I don't know where it is.
What I consider spam. Was here. Gone now.
I agree with the poster who said "How much?" How much does CB6 want to stop the booze from flowing in what is really an illegal commercial entity? C'mon Powers, How mcuh? What's the going rate to bribe a community board member? Or a city council member? HOW MUCH?
>>where is the post about the room rental on Facebook?<<
I saw it, too. But right now, I don't know where it is.
Here it is. It's still in this STR thread, posted at 1.00 PM. The room rental was posted at this creature's FB page. Illegal BTW. The thread re the pet store closing at the TA FB page is still there but that comment and a response ("you are such as ass") is gone, taken down by an admin.
I would to add if you went to the poster's FB page, there were a couple of workout selfies and other vapid crap. To paraphrase Darth Vader: “The entitlement is strong in this one.”
"OT, some people on the TA fb were expressing concern about the animals being left behind at Petland. Some nasty little ding dong told them to get a life, clean up pollution or exercise. Same nasty little ding dong is advertising her guest room for rental on her facebook page. So entitled. So stupid."
April 2, 2019 at 1:00 PM
There are two types of people in the world
1. those who do not let others walk all over them
2. those who let others walk all over them
Speyer, Schwarzman do not let others walk all over them
Why the hell should this community let them walk all over us?
This is obviously directed at the comment telling this community to stand down and live in "the now"
Right now Speyer and Schwarzman are walking all over us ruining our lives.
That is not ok.
This community is being underestimated and undermined in its every effort to stand up for what is right.
To those telling us to stand down, roll over, let everyone walk all over us and ruin our today and tomorrow as they have ruined our yesterday, go f yourself.
>>Here it is. It's still in this STR thread, posted at 1.00 PM.<<
What I deleted was an actual posting giving place and welcoming....
On the marketing strategy to add a StuyTown Campus Liquor License below is a well written article by an NYU student on the marketing strategy of Wall Street Goldman Sachs - Club Promoters. Recall, StuyTown is in the hands of wall street thanks in large part to Goldman Sachs. Whether Blackstone and Ivanhoe Cambridge turn StuyTown college campus dorm housing into even more of a hunting ground is the question for tonight.
How safe or dangerous we want our homes, our children, the young female students in neighboring apartments, our floors and buildings is the only question for the community board.
Although the Oval Café may not yet be a destination for the club goers, the promoters and the clubs, the Wall Street operating the club promoters and clubs as Goldman Sachs are an infestation in StuyTown and all of the young female students are their prey.
"Club promoters: everyone knows about them; many have had a personal encounter with them, but few shed light on the dark side of their business.
These people, primarily men, make thousands of dollars per night by bringing in good-looking young girls, most of whom are underage, to cater to their predominantly heterosexual male audience. Hooking up constitutes an integral part of nightlife for those who attend their clubs and venues, therefore club owners address their marketing accordingly.
This marketing strategy takes advantage of girls’ sexualities and puts them in the hands of hungry wolves. Night clubs are often the site of coercion, sexual assault and rape. Not only do club promoters perpetuate a predatory outlook on young women, but they also hinder their safety.
Many times these women are unaware of what they’re signing up for. The trick lies in concealing machinations behind the facade of an enviable offer: access to the best restaurants in the city, exclusive events and dream vacations –– all in exchange for partying at venues sponsored by the promoters.
The wealthiest men in the industry even provide their models with apartments hosting from five to 15 girls each. But instead of eradicating these practices, modeling agencies only contribute to promoters’ success.
Agencies make their employees live in low-quality, yet high-cost “model apartments” that resemble dormitory rooms. Often too young to secure an apartment on their own or lacking funds, the models take the promoters up on their offers.
A promoter takes his models “to more than one club per night, five to seven times per week,” former New York club promoter Roy Lugasi said in an interview with Metro US. They seem to disregard the detriment to models’ well beings that constant lack of sleep, intoxication and dehydration can bring about.
When confronted about oppression and abuse of the girls who work for promoters, another veteran promoter “Travis” claimed that they agree to the deal of their own “free will.”
What both men failed to acknowledge is that some models don’t perceive an alternative future and hence can not let go of the hook. Many become addicted to alcohol and other drugs associated with nightclubs and are unable to subsist without the dose.
The business expanded so much that Wall Street chose to partake.
The EMM Group which owns some of the biggest clubs in New York is funded by Goldman Sachs.
With their eyes set on the money bags, promoters are ready to go far.
In the past, unsuspecting college students also have fallen victim to promoters, who either hire avid collegiate club-goers to bring their attractive friends to their events and help them bypass security or scour clubs for potential targets.
Though this report is from 2006, it has been the prevailing student experience that this is still occurring. As no legal contract is involved to put them in charge of the girls’ safeties, promoters let alcohol, illicit substances and lustful men determine the outcome of their night.
https://nyunews.com/2018/03/26/3-27-ops-zagurskaya/
The BS was flowing freely tonight at the meeting about the proposed alcohol license. So much so, that free beer should have been offered....
I'm still sticking to my predication that the fix is in. Nothing changed my opinion.
The noise factor was mentioned and not just by one person. Noise here and there, including "the events" at the Oval. Fact is that these are "amenities" offered by our lord and master Blackstone and his representative here, and very few people attend. On a good day, maybe 100. And I have photos of far less. Will these "amenities" be gone. Fat chance!
Rick's primary duty is to Blackstone. Yeah, he would like (fill in blank), but I would like various things, too.
There were, of course, cheerleaders who bent down to kiss Rick's hand, claiming things about community and how quiet it is. (Where?) Another reason that beer should have been flowing--and free!
Oh, and Five Stuy Cafe claimed their prices were in keeping with the stores around them. Maybe if one goes to Gracefully, but I already checked some of their prices a few months back, and these prices were definitely higher. More BS on top of other BS.
Agreed. I have sent photos to Keith’s office of about 40 attending one concert. The noise to Oval apartments is not worth the number attending. As for the cafe prices, they are overpriced with mediocre food. This place is far from quiet especially if you live in the Oval or above or under a dorm.
5:43 PM, are you saying the property is going to be turned into a brothel of sorts?
Did anyone say "How Much" to keep the booze out?
The amenities are a marketing tool. Blackstone wants them so it can proclaim to the outside world — meaning potential, new renters — what a wonderful place this is to live. Anything Rick Hayduk says about the amenities is BS.
I'm not passing any more posts about Wall Street and abuse of women, etc. It's not a topic that is Stuy Town related, no matter how hard a connection tries to be made. I repeat again (because I think it is just one poster), if you want to start your own blog, it is free and you can post all you want.... Not here.
"I'm not passing any more posts about Wall Street and abuse of women, etc."
If not the STR Alex Jones, that poster was a close relative. The usual conspiracy junk with links that prove nothing. Trying to link the cafe (which has many issues) with sex trafficking was and is nuts.
I think it's the same person. My post was a response to long post (once again!) about Wall Street and Stuy Town. At that point, I said enough is enough. So that post was deleted before it saw the light of this blog.
Another BS from Five Stuy Cafe: That their customers sit at the cafe for maybe 30 minutes at most and then leave. How about all the open laptops I always see? AND a portion of the seating is just for this type of work. Some "residents" sit there for hours.... I see this all the time. How come the boss as Five Stuy Cafe doesn't see this? Or PS? Or Rick?
The residents of 5 Stuyvesant Oval and 1 Stuyvesant Oval are unanimously opposed to the beer and wine license at the 5 Turd eColi Café.
They DO NOT want the noise and disruption.
Alas, the fix is most probably in.
Where is the Tenants Association advocating for the residents of these buildings?
Nowhere.
Oh, the TA is in on the fix.
TA President Susan Steinberg is a disgrace and does nothing for the tenants.
She is a lap dog for Management.
If she has any honor, she would resign.
Ain't gonna happen.
Does everybody have heat on this raw, wet, windy 40 degree day? We don't. What's with these fucking bloodsucking bastards? Excuse my "french," but I am just so sick of paying through the nose for these conditions. And no, I don't want "an engineer" to intrude into my apartment. I just want some heat!
Note to Rick: Heat in cold weather is a bigger inducement to rent a place than you fucking beer and wine cafe and laughable "events."
Steinberg is also a member of that Community Board, but will recuse herself from the vote. Odd, as it is precisely someone who lives here that would have more of an opinion. My feeling is that Steinberg does want to "shake the boat," so she will go along with whatever Management decides. There is no fight in the TA anymore.
"Anything Rick Hayduk says about the amenities is BS."
Anything Rick Hayduk says about ANYTHING is BS.
Also: the BS about this 90 day test run. The 90 day requirement is to get a temporary license. It is NOT a time-period thought up by Management. But it seems as if Rick thought this up.
While the test run seems reasonable (after all, the license is just a test), the fact, not the BS, is that it is not. It will be very difficult to rescind this license if it gets approved. More BS will follow. "Oh, it is an isolated case. We will do better..." Etc, etc. I can write the excuses for Management. If there is trouble, the excuses will happen. Guarenteed.
Rick, Management, Blackstone want a license for a failing cafe. It will happen. Still my prediction.
Steinberg is just a puppet and freeloader. She does NOTHING for tenants, but want them to pay $50 per apartment. For what? I wouldn't mind if they actually did something for tenants, but the TA is simply an arm of management.
My response at the TA FB thread on the Cafe issue
"I was there. Besides TN's summary which is fairly accurate I would like to add that neither Rick nor the Manager of the Café (a Frank Trayer-excuse me if I got his last name spelled wrong) could not answer my question of why there is currently no signage in the Café stating that it was for “Residents and Guests” only. This has been going on for 3 years. Their reply was basically that my point was under advisement. I did have a solution. The Café, like the Oval bathroom, like the playgrounds, S/B accessible via the resident key card. That point was also greeted with typical spin that it would be taken under advisement. The Café is currently in violation of the NYC R7-2 zoning law designation without such restrictions. The survey request was only taken seriously after several people pointed out that the antidotal feedback that they received stating that people wanted wine and beer served there was from the Café customers only. Rick and Frank only grudgingly accepted the need for a more widely based survey. What kind of survey will actually be taken remains to be seen. Re the 90 days, I have since learned that this is not Management agreeing to an “experiment” but this is standard SLA policy after initially granting a license.
One more thing. If there will be an article at the T&V re the meeting, I hope this is included. A woman, who was pro Café liquor license, threw out the typical ethnic slur that only the Irish liked to get drunk or words to that effect. I pushed back strongly verbally on this comment as did other town hall participants. In hindsight, she should have been asked to leave by Rick.
Oh and BTW, the “Residents and Guests"only language at the official Stuy webpage for the Café has again been deleted. Again. Commercial enterprise say what?
https://www.stuytown.com/ameni.../convenience/five-stuy-cafe
Edit or delete this
>>"Buckle up. Exposing the scandal is just getting started." Part 1<<
I'm afraid buckling up won't do it. Right now, I am tired and when I read your posts my eyes glaze. I will look into this later.
Guess what? I read the two lengthy posts and deleted them. You are wasting your time here, STR Alex Jones. Seriously, start you own blog.
"Guess what? I read the two lengthy posts and deleted them. You are wasting your time here, STR Alex Jones. Seriously, start you own blog."
Thank you.
If I was a conspiracy freak, I would think the STR Alex Jones was sent by management to stir up misinformation. But I’m not. This person repeats the same tired crap, a mix of truth with mostly fiction, links that don’t back up his points, over and over again.
Thanks STR. Which side you are on is all we needed to know before beginning our pursuit of the overcharges. We are not using a blog because that gets no results but thanks also for the name-calling and bad advice.
12:27 pm.
AMEN!!! Came home at 5:30 pm to apartment with zero heat!!!
To hell with the f ing amenities!!!
I wonder how bad the walls are and shitty service is also at the blackstone now owned property Parker in queens? I heard they abuse their tenants there too.
"Thanks STR. Which side you are on is all we needed to know before beginning our pursuit of the overcharges. We are not using a blog because that gets no results but thanks also for the name-calling and bad advice."
Excuse me but WT* are you talking about? Not using a blog? Are you serious? Re overcharges, you better get all your rent history that you can from the DHCR and then lawyer up big time. Good luck.
Saturday morning! Ah yes when the beloved upstairs douchebag drops things. Bicycles, wrenches, hammers, heels you name it. Ask if there are rugs and management says yes Ask if they had inspection? No they have not. You'll love living here. You can give up sleeping all together and .... best part.... all for half your paycheck (or more).
A few days ago, a truck outside of peter cooper and the old now gone MD office, unloaded carpets, padding and more padding. Lots of carpet padding.
It's a commercial space. I guess it's fine for Blackstone to carpet that but not the residential. Wanna know why?
STOP THE MADNESS HAMMERING AT 7 AM WEEKEND PETER COOPER ARE YOU INSANE? WHAT KIND OF TENANTS DO YOU HAVE LIVING HERE?
It seems that the promo from Stuy Town about this having the largest park in Manhattan outside of Central Park is wrong, of course. Though not commonly thought of as "in Manhattan," Fort Tryon Park, which houses The Cloisters, is larger than what is here. Also, depending on the definition (do buildings comprise the space of a park?), Battery Park City has more park space than what's here, too. Actually, if I had to live any place with the same amount of rent, I would choose Battery Park City. It is really lovely and has a great view and boardwalk.
And at that meeting about the license: it was wrong and low class for Rick to pat himself (and Blackstone) about how it has gotten better in Stuy Town since Blackstone and Rick took over. He even started the meeting with this statement. Some changes have been good, but some have been bad or ignored. That is the truth. What was said by Rick was BS.
Whether or not this place has gotten better or not is completely in the eyes of the beholder, and obviously Rick is full of himself to even make a comment like that.
Here’s what I will say about Rick, and all of these things he considers to be the things that make this place that much better under his giant ego (these are based on 30,000 tenants - and I use the term tenants loosely based on the transient demographic of this place):
Concerts/Movies in oval - 250 tenants (.8%)
Fitness playground users - 100 tenants (.3%)
Oval amenities -1000 tenants (3.3%)
Oval Fitness - 1000 tenants (3.3%)
These are far from being numbers that Rick should be bragging about!
Now let’s look at the problems:
No heat - 10,000 apartments (33.3%)
Loud neighbors - 5,000 apartments (16.6%)
Carpet violators - 5,000 apartments (16.6%)
This numbers are much more significant. Too bad we don’t have a TA.
Rick is totally full of BS and is either blinded by his own ego or is a ruthless liar.
Anyone noticed how quiet the TA fb has gone lately? Nobody dare complain anymore about the QOL because the stasi will contact them and the TA won't allow it anyway. No more heat complaints. No more noise complaints. A few traffic complaints and lots and lots of recommendations on where to eat, who has the best pizza, etc. Like a little tea party gathering at the church hall.
The fact that he said that things have gotten better under Blackstone is absurd. We have more students, more transients, city subsidized all because they cannot fill apartments. There were greater heat issues, the grounds are dirtier and residents of the oval are plagued by loud concerts and movies. The only improvement might be service. This place is known far and wide as a dorm dump.
That statement is so bogus. We also have more students and what he calls amenities are nuisances to people on the oval. These are not true amenities. We never had garbage and mattresses laying around or the strong smell of pot. Is he kidding!
Battery Park City beats this dorm dump twenty times over if one pays market rent.
Maybe before lauding his accomplishments, Rick needs to stop this pot smoking in the apartments. Right after the inspections the louses below me started in again. I am sick of calling. PS should make building rounds every night. You can smell it through the doors.
carpet violators is closing in on 3 out of 4 apartments do not have rugs. Stuy don't give a shit if they do or do not. In fact, they are happy you are misery and complaining and overjoyed if you move out because of it.
I don't mean to change the subject, but I have a question for all of the dog owners who read and post on this blog. Why do you think it's ok to walk over the fenced off areas of the property and walk your dog? Why do you think these areas are fenced off? Since all dog owners do this, the ones posting here do too, so I'm curious as to the self absorbed thinking here. I don't own a dog, but if I did I would have a lot more respect and consideration. I guess I was raised different.
Dogs and students are king here. They can do anything they please. The owners know that. Did you ever hear of doggie days and parties. This dump is the only place that would feature such crap. The dog owners also let their dogs sniff the produce at the market. At one point there was a roped off area where no dogs were allowed. Then they removed it. I mentioned it to a PS officer and he said they didn’t pay attention so why do it.
Do not say ALL dog owners do this, because that is just a plain lie. Do a decent number do it? Absolutely. As a dog owner, I do approach people who I see doing this (and not picking up their dogs shit), and most of them do not care. They think that grass is meant for their dogs, and they will continue to do it until PS starts handing out lease violations (something we know will never happen to people paying top dollar to live here).
Bottom line is that I am disgusted by the actions of those dog owners. I am also disgusted by people like you who lump all dog owners into one category.
Just went over to our fellow Stuy Town blogs. It can be disheartening to read the continual problems people have with noise and renovations. And this is not just temporary noise that will go away after a couple of minutes. Long term noise, renovations, etc., it seems never to stop. And the prices of necessary things are going up and up.
Meanwhile, previous to this, I went to the official Stuy Town pages and the selling of this place. Stuy Town seems wonderful if you just look at that. The reason I headed over was to see if the voting for the beer and wine was somewhere. It wasn't, despite Rick's assurance last week that it would only take two days for this to be placed online. I guess it is taking longer. But I expect any day now.
str, what fellow blog? please post name. Also, selling stuy?
Warm weather miseries have begun!
I live near the Oval. During the last several years, I have taken alternate routes in Stuyvesant Town and out on 14th Street to avoid the crowds anywhere near the denuded, abused Oval. The Oval itself? During the hot months, I usually walk ANYWHERE but near the Oval so as not to hear the shrieking and witness all of the obnoxious, stupid, dangerous behaviors occurring on the Oval itself. (Events? My life has truly been hellish for as many as 5 days running for MONTHS in the spring/summer/fall.)
I confess that I've a much higher sensitivity level to noise and pollution and invasion of all kinds: sound, sight, crowds, nauseating anti-social behavior. BUT, on Saturday, the first warm day of this year, even a hardened, tough person with whom I sat near the fountain was sickened, appalled, and both disgusted and surprised by what he saw and heard.
WE ARE OVERRUN NOW. WE ARE OVERCROWDED. WE ARE BESEIGED. IT IS MUCH, MUCH WORSE THAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. AND IT IS ONLY APRIL.
Examples: (1) The "skating rink" playground was infested with way too many people. It was not simply young children. It was also that species of "I'm cool, I'm entitled to do what I want; look at me and listen to me shrieking, laughing loud, playing games with my many friends." These were "adults" - either college students, or what we used to call yuppies, or, sadly, SOME OF THE WORST OF THE WORST HERE: young "parents."
(1A) Regarding "parents," and "families:" Fast forward to a scene of great drama and literal hysteria - a woman ran and then fell to the ground, sobbing, causing a tremendous scene to which other people ran. WHY???
No, she was not hurt. She was distraught. Her 3 year old son was gone. Disappeared. Security guards scattered to find the neglected child. EXPLANATION: A good conversation with one of the guards revealed the following: THERE ARE AT LEASE A HUNDRED CASES EACH SUMMER WHEN A CHILD IS IGNORED AND RUNS AWAY. Not occasionally, but VERY FREQUENTLY. (This particular child was found at his front door.) As I returned from the Oval, approaching my front door, a young couple stood nearby with a girl of about 5 or 6 in front of them. IGNORING HER, EACH JACKASS WAS INTENTLY PEERING INTO HER/HIS cellphone.
Another example: (2) Not one, but several "parents" were seating their little ones on the edge of the fountain. Two genius "parents," in separate incidents, were actually sliding their children DOWN TOWARD THE STONE BOTTOM OF THE FOUNTAIN. Oh, great fun, wonderful play. God forbid a guard or halfway sane stranger chastised them, pointing out it is incredibly dangerous and irresponsible to do this. Nope! Fun! Fun! Fun! Ooops!
(3) THERE WERE TONS OF 20'S OR 30'S with attitudes and behaviors. Too many were seated on the floor against the fountain. The person I was with had to demand some as*hole unsprawl his entire body off a crowded bench so others could sit down.
(4) There was a particularly offensive and obnoxious group of 4 young ones who, quite frankly, had the air of "rich kids" who'd installed an inflatable couch/boat kind of thing abutting the "fencing" at the Oval on the edge of the stone path smoking their asses off and staring defiantly and with disdain at you should you even LOOK at their highnesses. The guard I mentioned before informed me he was not allowed to stop them from smoking or order them to get rid of their portable furniture.
Much more, and all so distressing, disturbing so as not to simply upset me, but persuade me I was either in an alternate thoroughly alien and ugly universe, or sound asleep in the middle of a particularly scary nightmare.
THIS is my home?
"Maybe before lauding his accomplishments, Rick needs to stop this pot smoking in the apartments. Right after the inspections the louses below me started in again. I am sick of calling. PS should make building rounds every night. You can smell it through the doors."
Somebody on my floor smokes pot every day. When I step off the elevator or step outside my door I start sneezing. The smell is horrible. It is very similar to the smell of stale beer.
What is at least equally disheartening is the abject failure of the TA. Under the leadership of Al Doyle, the TA was quite active on many fronts.Those days are obviously over. I have no idea why the members of the TA Board bother to hold their positions since they obviously have little interest in the problems of the tenants of STPCV. Exhibits A, B, C ... is the silence of the TA when faced with a barrage of complaints about heat this past winter except to arrange for absurd tours of the heating department.
>>str, what fellow blog? please post name. Also, selling stuy?<<
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Stuyvesanttown/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/stpcvta/
To get to Management's Stuy Town blog (from Management) just type in Stuyvesant Town into your search engine where you will find further links.
BTW, all links are at our main page on the right.
This place sure gone crazy.
How many more chances do we give Rick to directly lie to us before we finally do something???
I knew something was fishy about his email about the painting of the bike lanes needing numerous days (usually done in a few hours overnight) and taking away all of the parking on 20th. Well the posted signs have made Rick a liar yet again. It appears that all of 20th Street is being used for production crews who are filming and probably placing their giant trailers up and down 20th.
So the lies pile on.
“People love the concerts and movies and ice rink.”
“People want 5Stuy to serve booze.”
“Things are much better here since Blackstone (and myself) took over.”
I’ve never been asked about any of this, nor has anyone I know. Quite convenient when you ask the people who you know are going to give you the response you are looking for, right Rick?
Anyone who pays dues to this bogus so called TA is giving their money to management. They do absolutely nothing to help tenants. As was seen on their page last winter, residents were responsible for their own heat. They focus only on political issues that are not local and get defensive and snarky when confronted
Hatful is a PR man and a good one at that. He says what his company want him to say. Sure there are lies, but that is what PR is all about. The worst one is that people attend those concerts in large numbers. I have taken photos proving the opposite.
Plus that tour of the heating plant was absurd.
Food Trucks are making a comeback. For the convenience of our residents, of course.
"Food Trucks are making a comeback. For the convenience of our residents, of course."
I noticed one on the 14th Street Loop.
From the Community Update that comes with your bill:
"Food Trucks as a bonus for hungry shoppers and vendors, enjoy some of NYC's best food trucks. Specifics will be announced in the near future."
This is puzzlement. "For hungry shoppers and vendors" ???
Also coming: "Live performances" at the Flea Market. And "Door to Door Home Services" which will only cost you for a 12 month commitment $75 per month.
Money, money, money....
"I am also disgusted by people like you who lump all dog owners into one category."
Clean people who live here are forced to negotiate your dog's puddles of piss and shit (shit stains), and you're disgusted with us? Yeah, that sounds about right.
They're banning feeding the birds and squirrels, but putting stinky food trucks on the property? They don't think that the majority of people who buy from the trucks won't drop food, wrappings and paper plates? We had food trucks a few years ago when TS or CW ran the dump. Eventually, they were removed because people complained so much about the fumes, noise and just plain ugliness of the things. I hope they are referring exclusively to the Flea Market event and not going to put these things in all summer.
I can't think what the "door-to-door" service is. They really wrack their brains (what little they have) to come up with money-grubbing ideas and I don't believe they are stupid as to believe these scams are popular with many tenants.
I passed the former Belgian place on the corner, and spanking new signs were being put up about being a member of "The Village" or something of the sort. Instantly my mind went to the new logo for PCV (which is very ugly, btw). So... it seems the sell will be about the Village, and being a part of PCV, which is gonna be different.
More on the new signs at the former Belgian place. Saw a photo that is posted on the non-official Stuy Town blog, and it seems Management is dividing up Stuy Town and Peter Cooper Village in trying to sell PCV. Things have been happening there (including a lot of work at the adjacent space). So, what does this mean? I think the sell will be that PCV is more upscale than Stuy Town, full of "independent thinkers." This independent thinkers is pure BS, and sadly typical of the minds which run this place.
Why is it when I think I've seen it all, Blackstone proves me wrong, again and again.
Meanwhile the TA says nothing. Perhaps, it too, will be divided up.
Whether it's admitted or not, the old adage is still true: divide and conquer. While Management has seen to it that the TA is toothless (with the TA's blessing!), this is another solid nail in the TA's coffin. The TA doesn't realize it, but they are really history.
I think they are going to make PCV upscale and rent to wealthier idiots, err, tenants while they let the Sty degrade into a stinking slum filled with students. Hope I'm wrong, but Blackstone is notorious all over the world for doing horrible things to the places it buys and driving the lower rent tenants out by making their lives a sheer misery. It's a very, very evil company.
A quote from Rick's blurb about the change of logos and separating the communities:
"Rest assured, we will continue to operate the two communities as today using combined resources (team members, back office operations, etc.). There are no current plans to restrict the use of any of the free amenities or services based on the community where residents live."
I read "There are no current plans ...." to mean "we are working on how we can make the Styslummers pay if they want to use anything that is current free to them. "
OK by me because I never, ever use any of their "amenities." They would have to pay me to go to one of their execrable "events," or step foot in the E-Coli Cafe.
""Food Trucks as a bonus for hungry shoppers and vendors, enjoy some of NYC's best food trucks. Specifics will be announced in the near future."
Food trucks are a de facto violation of the NYC zoning law (R7-2) here since they are commercial enterprises whereby they will to sell to anyone, not just the infamous joke of a restriction of “residents and their guests only”. Garodnick punted on this issue some time ago when he negotiated with the then current management (not sure if it was TS or CWC) to allow these trucks at the Oval “for special events”. As per the notice I received, these trucks are initially only for the Flea Market but this is the tip of the iceberg for a dramatic increase of the commercialization of this “Community”. And I am sorry to say, many long term tenants here don't seem to have an issue with any of these so called “improvements”. Bottom line the Rubes have won. See Hudson Yards.
In the Sixties, when bell-chiming Mr. Softee ice cream trucks drove (on occasion) into the loop roads, Security would quickly make them leave. Back then, tenants really DID have quiet enjoyment of their homes, most of the time. Ancient History, right?
"Rest assured, we will continue to operate the two communities as today using combined resources (team members, back office operations, etc.). There are no current plans to restrict the use of any of the free amenities or services based on the community where residents live."
Well, the "two communities" (he said it, I didn't) will still be run by Blackstone. But I can see, slowly, a PCV sub-manager and a Stuy Town one. As for "free" amenities.... Who knows, but a lot of family stuff (the rink, Oval Cafe, etc.) is in Stuy Town.
As for the selling, something is up and we see it with our eyes.
People still pay them dues. I don’t know why but they do.
The sty is already a dorm dump. That will be awful if the two communities are separated.
Bring on the food trucks. The area now has very limited places to eat out or enjoy a beer. Too far from trains.
I've been trying to have the old Times Square (which people miss--well, men miss) come back to an area of Stuy Town. We already have Security.
What a dump this place has become!
Pot smoke, dog shit in halls and elevators, no carpets, loud, boisterous bros, working girls...a real classy establishment...yeah, right.
Mmmmmmm. Food trucks.
Real classy. Luxury living.
Was it a resort that Rick used to run or a trailer park?
"Bring on the food trucks. The area now has very limited places to eat out or enjoy a beer. Too far from trains."
Where does one begin about this post?
Do you do realize that food trucks do not serve alcohol. That they run their engines and spew out all sorts of carcinogens while inside our “oasis". And you do realize that in the EV and Gramercy, there are hundreds of bars where one get a drink. Do yourself a favor and get f**k out of here and see the city. Go south of 14th Street and west of First Avenue. But why I am not surprised at your altitude?
“It's a world peopled by 20-something interns who can somehow afford to split rents of $3000+ a month, who come to New York from the Midwest, eschewing things like walkups because living in a gated, fully loaded environment "is just so much better in so many ways. It's like living in a hotel. Everything's always convenient, always safe, always clean. You don't have to worry about gross things. Like mice! And creepy things like that."
"Says another 20-something resident of luxury housing, "It sometimes feels like I'm not in New York when I'm in the building... It's trying to have things that a suburban housing complex would--everything at your fingertips, where you don't have to leave [the building] much if you don't want. "
http://vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com/2008/09/gated-new-york.html
I hope the food trucks are only going to be here for the Flea Market. If they are going to be a permanent fixture, then we can expect more rats, pollution and people from outside coming into the property.
But don't feed the squirrels because they are dangerous animals who encourage rats. What f**ing a**holes we are having to suffer since this poor apology for a management took over.
"I've been trying to have the old Times Square (which people miss--well, men miss) come back to an area of Stuy Town. We already have Security."
It's here already, STR. Surprised you didn't know that.
2 21 too bad for you. We are not all as miserable as you are. Where to begin.........
"2 21 too bad for you. We are not all as miserable as you are. Where to begin......"
You implied that food trucks can/will sell alcohol. That is incorrect. You were the one who bitched about "has very limited places to eat out or enjoy a beer". That is also incorrect. So you are the "miserable" one. As a real New Yorker, why don't you get out and cross the street? Your opinion is the minority one here on this blog.
6:34 PM:
Shame on you.
If you are an agent of blackheart, then your sentiments are understandable.
If you live here, it is hard to fathom your message.
This is a HOME. Look around you - apartment buildings where residents lives.
Not some macabre shopping mall, amusement park, stadium, theatre, bar, oversized vending machine, 24 hour NOISE machine, vomitorium, toilet bowl for dogs, ROADWAY for motorized and non-motorized vehicles, slaughterhouse for the dispatch of squirrels, logging site where trees are routinely murdered and chopped up.
This is not an area designated for imbibing booze, debauchery, drug use, filthy feet on benches, blankets of marijuana smoke, jackasses laying their bodies on the ground, installing blow-up furniture, nearly naked females displaying t&a for months on end, balloons caught in perpetuity in the remaining trees, inhabitation by 40 people of one small indoor space (apartment "parties", or as "management" terms it: "Entertaining" people).
This is not a construction/destruction site.
NOPE. QUIET, PEACEFUL HOME.
Except if you are (a) blackheart; and (b) brainwashed, selfish, and unconscious humans.
Am so sick of the pot smell in my building and floor. Not legal and nauseating. This dorm dump gets worse and worse.
Let it go , this is happening. Food, then wine, then more. We don't own this place, they do. Better make yourself unmiserable.
@11:56 AM: Well said! Very well said! I believe the majority of tenants concur with your sentiments. I was visiting a friend up in the Projects on East 115th Street (Johnson Houses) today and it was quieter and more peaceful than StyTown. People were out on benches talking and kids were playing in the playgrounds, but there was no carnival atmosphere and my friend's apartment was a lot quieter than mine here in the Sty. By quiet, I mean no noisy neighbors. She said it's like that most of the time.
No matter what Rick and company do, this place will increasing become a tacky city project like dorm dump. They can add all their sham amenities, the low life demo is increasing. No hope for this place
I think it was six or seven days ago (last Saturday or Sunday) when I was treated to the vile behaviors and overcrowding of a 72 degree day out by the Oval, detailed on the post dated April 8th.
Today, Saturday, the scheduled date of the "Spring Carnival" invasion of noise and crowds (cancelled due to rain - thank you, Mama Nature!), I took a ridiculously long detour out of my home in order to completely avoid even the SIGHT of the Oval, let alone the behaviors occurring there.
Did not help! 14th Street, First Avenue, and sidewalks from 16th Street and 18th Street leading into Stuyvesant Town were a nightmare, as were a couple of the playgrounds I looked into. All this poor, exhausted resident wanted to do was sit quietly on a bench in order to read and think and enjoy the weather.
Hahaha! Sucker: me!
The overcrowding: displays of "families" with carriages, their own visiting parents, in-laws and friends; children in herds (when and where the hell did we get so many children these last two years? This is not the 50's or 60's and the kids are much wilder and disrespectful than they were once upon a time.); students in twos, threes and much more; other configurations.
The Too Many Goddamned People I saw last week is continuing to multiply. It is a sure thing that by the time it is: (a) hot outside; and (b) "Event"-invaded - there are going to be many, many more people by a truly unbearable magnitude.
What the hell is going on here that it is now nearly, if not completely IMPOSSIBLE to find a quiet corner in which to relax?
Why are there SO MANY MORE HUMAN BEINGS outside now than even last year? WHO are they? WHY ARE THEY HERE?
Peace? Quiet? Inside your home? Outside your home? Only a memory.
This is a serious question and I hope someone "in the know" can answer it:
Does the stuff we put in the recycling bins actually get recycled? Every time I take my plastics and glass down to the recycling bins I see that they are stuffed with plastic bags (non-recyclable), dirty paper plates, food stuffs and all kinds of filthy detritus, including used tissues. Are the porters required to sort this shit and discard the plastic bags, sandwiches, greasy pizza boxes, etc., or does it just go into the regular trash? I really would like to know because if I am just spinning my wheels by rinsing and sorting my bottles and cans and paper, then I would rather not bother. I have more important things to do with my time, but if I thought the stuff was actually going to be sorted and end up being recycled, then I will put myself out and continue to rinse and sort my stuff.
Right now, I am at the point where I feel I might as well put everything down the garbage chute because it's a fool's game to try and the right thing.
Why is the little league taking over playground 1 in ST? Will residents be seeing a rent credit for all the early morning noise? Is anyone planning a lawsuit against BS and the PSLL? I'm in.
Think of the children!
I'll say this about the sty, when there's a pile of shit in front of the management office, it gets cleaned up relatively quickly (with no shit stain left behind). Wish I could say that about the rest of the project.
9 AM this morning my newly moved-in downstairs neighbors were drilling and hammering in their bedroom. So much for hoping to sleep a little late on a Sunday morning.
A lady on the TA Facebook page is living through hell in her PCV apartment. Water running down the walls and a stink. She also has respiratory problems, which are exacerbated by the stink of stale water (no doubt mold, too). She said she's emailed Rick twice at least, but is dealing with Debbie Sabatino, a "senior" manager. Sabatino is a horror. Always has been. She's a left-over from CWC and goes by the CWC credo of always treating tenants like shit.
Of course, the TA makes no comment and God Forbid they would try to help her. Anybody who pays $50 to that phoney baloney outfit is crazy. I'd flush $50 down the toilet rather than give it to them. Or give it to one of panhandlers who are around the property in great numbers these days.
9:25
I agreed with your sentiment until you mentioned a lawsuit and PSLL in the same sentence. They are the last positive staples of the community, and are merely renters of that space. Blackstone approved this, PSLL didn’t just walk in.
If it wasn’t PSLL, it would be Super Soccer Stars. We should be pissed that they (Blackstone) are taking away space for groups that are paying.
@12:44 PM: I don't think that Management cares how noisy people are and how much they destroy the lives of others. Even when PS responds to noise complaints and speaks to the assholes who are making the noise some of the assholes continue or get worse. Management just simply does not care. I think Rick Hayduk has to be the very worst manager we have ever had. He will use the excuse that it is hard to evict someone, but they have evicted overly troublesome tenants. I know that for an absolute fact because I know the people who were being disturbed constantly by the morons. It may involve getting the police involved by calling them when PS can't persuade the morons to quiet down, and it may mean calling the police over and over, but it will result in an eviction eventually. Tenants who are disturbed by a troublesome (really troublesome) neighbor have to join forces and make that eviction happen. Seen it done and know it can be done.
F the children. There is no reason to wake an entire playground worth of paying customers to hold a ballgame for a commercial entity that at least half the people do not live in the community. Play the game at noon, if you must. Complete bullshit. There is not a single person at SPS or Beam living that is any good at their jobs especially Rick the Dick and the dope in charge of PS.
"9 AM this morning my newly moved-in downstairs neighbors were drilling and hammering in their bedroom. So much for hoping to sleep a little late on a Sunday morning."
They could have waited until 11 AM. But no, not these entitled ones who have no idea of how to live in a real apartment multi floor building. For instance, unless there is an emergency, we don’t even vacuum past 8 PM. It’s called courtesy and having some neighbor consideration. Full disclosure, there always has been bad neighbors here. But nothing like the post Met Life transient DB environment that currently is standard now. And when they leave after one or two years max, the same type move in.
Last night students gathered talking in loud voices and smoking right next to the building. Also some kind of disturbance , not sure if it was a student or trespasser. Took security s long time to end the guy’s rankings.
"Sabatino is a horror. Always has been. She's a left-over from CWC and goes by the CWC credo of always treating tenants like shit. "
So true. She's D. Habersham (remember her?) 2.0.
EVERY Friday and Saturday we are woken up by hoards of drunken fucktards weaving their way home from the bars. They are loud and, at times, aggressive. I've heard much angry bellowing and heard girls screaming their heads off. There was a time when people would look out their windows and call Security or the Cops if they thought a female was in trouble. Now, we just pull the covers over our heads and try to go back to sleep because it is just to be assumed that it is some drunken woo hoo girl having a melt down and who cares?
I agree the demo here is low life. Inconsiderate and reluctant to follow noise and pot smoking rules. One group moves out and the next bunch moves in. I have had at least five groups of bros in the past four years. Most were problematic.
5:16: I believe you were referring to an incident that started a little after 10 at night and lasted until almost 11:00.
Does anyone have any information?
It took place in the 14th Street Loop, between 2 and 4 Stuyvesant Oval. Five Stuyvesant Town Security Guards were present; eventually four NYC Police showed up and at the end, an FDNY ambulance.
A man kept yelling that he wanted to go home, had done nothing, was going to see his mother, wanted to know why they stopped him. This went on for a very long time.
He might have been yelling several times that he was afraid because he had been tasered at some earlier time. Whatever was happening, whatever he'd done or not done, he was clearly not only angry, but scared and distraught.
It's more than likely that neither Stuyvesant Town Security nor the 13th Precinct will provide any information.
Three people stood there watching the entire time.
4:24
Again, I don’t disagree with you about the noise, but the kids are not at fault. The incompetent management gave PSLL that space at that hour (for a price of course), so they showed up and played.
The playground technically opens at 9:00am, so there could also be roller hockey games going on at that hour, which would be adult tenants.
It’s a no-win situation at this point, and all fingers should be pointed at Rick. Let’s take a look at the intrusions Ricky boy gives us all in this “peaceful oasis:”
1) Events in the oval EVERY NIGHT from about 5-8pm. Many events that are way to loud and far from peaceful.
2) Ice hockey games at 9am on weekends.
3) Little league at 9am on weekends.
4) Super Soccer Stars paying management to rent out the spaces they use, which in turn the tenants must then pay to use that service. So much for being able to freely use the playgrounds.
5) Loud as all hell doggy days every Saturday.
The loud intrusions are something many of us have been dealing with for years, and now that the people in playground 1 are facing the same problems, there are more rightfully pissed off people. What isn’t right is people saying F the kids. Those 5-6 year olds didn’t negotiate the use of playground 1, Rick did. It all goes back to one person - RICK.
4:38 sounds like you refer to students but IOE it has been parents 40+ creating havoc and noise. This is also at 8 am or earlier. No regard for others just plain rude losers even over age 40.
There are young professionals on my floor (definitely not students) who smoke pot every night. The stink is horrible. I have allergies and the smell makes me sneeze violently. I only have to step off the elevator or open my apartment door and I start sneezing when they are smoking. When they are at work there is no stench and my allergies don't flare up. They are pleasant people, but loud and she is screechy and shrill. Needless to say,they have absolutely no carpets. I am friendly with the woman who lives downstairs from them and she says when they are home she hears everything (as in everything!) they do. At least she doesn't have the pot stench as well!
This kind of situation would probably occur under any manager who Blackstone could scrape up, but in a well-run apartment building, there would be some curbs on such behavior (stench and noise). I am rent stabilized (real deal), but I would never, ever pay $3.5k or $4k (maybe more in some cases!) to live here. If I could afford that kind of rent I would be in a nice, well-run apartment building or buy a place of my own. If you earn enough to pay such a high rent, you can do much better than this dump and probably make enough to qualify for a mortgage.
I am not at all surprised that they can only fill the vacated apartments with students and city subsidized because it is absolutely ridiculous to waste good money on living here. It is a great deal for the (real) rent stabilized tenants who have been here for a long time, but it's only for suckers and students otherwise.
Mainly parents who refuse to have kids who are polite or play outside. Such is life here & will be moving shortly. Good luck peeps.
Re the Carnival Cruise/Pay to Play noise events here. Most are in the Sty except for that one sad Halloween party and those dog day events at PCV Playground 3. And Playground 3 in PCV is nowhere near the PCV apartments where senior management lives. Coincidence? I think not.
8:07 distraught? More likely a entitled millennials response to getting caught found something wrong: whiney, offensive and loudly voicing fears of law enforcement actions that haven't ocurred, ie "don't tase me bro".
"4:38 sounds like you refer to students but IOE it has been parents 40+ creating havoc and noise. This is also at 8 am or earlier. No regard for others just plain rude losers even over age 40."
I understand that young families can be a major noise issue here as well especially when they don’t do the 80% carpet lease requirement. And they are also transient as well, being priced out after a lease renewal that hits them with the almost the full legal rent.
And the posters at this blog and the PCVST FB pages can’t keep just referring to “students” for all young people. Makes us look old and out of touch. There are a lot of them here but there is also a lot of “young professionals”, the post college demo (tech/finance/PR etc.) that for all intents and purposes, is almost as bad as the student demo. Entitled, zero or well under the 80% carpet compliance, parental funded (lease guaranteed by their parents because of zero or limited credit history), and transient. You can have up to six unrelated adults in a three bedroom “flex” apartment on any given weekend.
Some of the porters sort it and some just throw in out with the regular waste! Some people in our building are animals in regards to their personal refuse. They don’t attempt to properly recycle. They don’t break down their copious amazon boxes. If they, albeit rarely, find the proper bin, they don’t clean out the container. The majority of our recycle product is unable to be recycled due to lazy self entitled pigs. These are the same batch of clowns that champion congestion pricing and bike lane but can’t sort out plastic and paper.
Fools game for sure.....
1:24 , you are exactly right. You have to be crazy to pay market rate in this dump.
@10:06 PM, April 13: Regarding recycling, I have often wondered the same thing. I hope it gets recycled, but as there is so much garbage mixed in with the recycling I have a feeling that some of it may end up in the landfill. I do know for a fact that many recycling places won't accept bottles with caps on. This is why the "pickers" who open up the bags on the curb will remove the caps and toss them into the gutter. Instead of ending up in a landfill, these hard plastic caps end up in our rivers and the sea and, eventually, into the gut of some poor fish or turtle.
The recycling laws are enforced (or not enforced) in such a haphazard way in NYC that I really think the laws are more a gesture by our "progressive" Mayor and City Council than something that they take seriously. Rather like the Management enforces the rules pertaining to dogs, noise and carpets! Looks serious on paper, but is as just that - paper.
I can't believe the a**holes on the TA facebook. They are complaining about the sound of the robins singing in the very early hours of the morning. Robins always do that at this time of the year. I can understand them complaining about the noise from the construction work, the screaming yahoos coming home drunk and the very many other grating noise we are subjected to, but to complain about a little bird! That's the "drawback" of having trees, folks. Don't worry, Management is going for the asphalt and artificial greenery look and you will soon only have to listed to jackhammers, drunks and honking traffic. Oh, and throw in the occasional explosion from the Con Ed plant. And the garbage trucks clanging in the early hours.
This place (what's left of it) is wasted on some of these idiots.
I'd rather be "disturbed" by a robin singing on a tree outside than the sounds of my upstairs neighbors fighting, rutting and clomping around in their heels at 3 a.m.
Let me guess, the people complaining about the robins are the same ones that say to move out of NYC if you don’t like the noise of concerts, movies, etc.?
Those pesky robins really need to go back to Iowa!
As an avid bird-lover, I just had to go and look at the TA Facebook (which I am banned from posting on) and see what they were saying. It seems the chatter is quite light-hearted and jocular. Nobody said anything about [seriously] harming the bird. It seems like they must all live in the same area unless there is more than one Robin doing its thing at 3 AM. I find yappy dogs more annoying than high-pitched birds, but at 3 AM anything is too much. Fortunately, my neighbors (one of whom has a parrot) are very quiet. There was a yappy little dog, but moved out recently. Sometimes people walk their dogs in the very early hours and a barkfest will erupt, but I haven't heard that Robin they are on about. I hope he stays over by those people on the Facebook!
No offensiveness to parents, I am one, but we've had more troubles with parents here than NYu students as far as disturbance. This is over the span of 12 years.
My experience has been different from that of 8:30. All of my problems have been with the fraternity apartment downstairs and the one on my floor. Pot smoking, parties, shouting, door slamming. Students cause a
lot of the problems here as well as young u related roomies.
Student dorm like apartments do not belong in a residential community. Especially when they constitute 60 percent of some buildings. What a travesty that management had to turn to this method of turning a profit here.
Where are you Susan Steinberg and the phony Tenants Association?
GONE, NOTHING, DISAPPEARED.
But still shilling for the $50 "membership" dues?
Hahahaha!
You must be kidding.
Truly without shame.
Student dorm like apartments do not belong in a residential community. Especially when they constitute 60 percent of some buildings. What a travesty that management had to turn to this method of turning a profit here.
April 16, 2019 at 10:14 PM
Then Fight Back.
http://carsonwatch.org/2017/08/17/corporate-landlords-consolidate-renters-fight-back/
I don't know who is responsible for delivering us into the hands of this vile corporation, but I suspect that if it hadn't been Blackstone it would have been some other equally vile corporate landlord. Who else could afford to buy a property this size except a mammoth like Blackstone?
I wish we had gone co-op years ago.
Please DO go to the URL listed at 8:47 AM:
http://carsonwatch.org/2017/08/17/corporate-landlords-consolidate-renters-fight-back/
AND THE LISTED ARTICLES WITHIN THIS PIECE.
I have been trying, since nearly one year ago, to persuade US to FIGHT BACK.
Bless you, 8:47 AM Anonymous, for posting this and writing: "Then Fight Back."
OTHER PEOPLE DO FIGHT BACK. And, please remember, the United Nations has specifically singled out Blackstone as practicing inhumane actions.
Again, as before: the address to write to collectively consider our concerns as residents here:
quietenjoymentnow@gmail.com
My heart sank when I learned that Blackstone was buying this property because I know exactly what a totally inhumane, greedy and vile corporation it is. My sister used to work for one of the law firms that represents Blackstone and she saw up close and personal what a greedy, avaricious, godless bunch of walking filth runs the show. Nobody with a conscience or shred of decency should feel comfortable working for Blackstone. They are the totally without morals. Look at Schwartzman. A hideous excuse for a human being. Not a decent bone in his body.
10:14 business is business. The business is making money and filling apartments. Come one, come all. Like they said, when we buy our own place, we can decide. Yes , they said that to my partner.
What's with all the helicopters today? It seems that all of the time one is above Stuy Town.
Is this the new reality? Aside from other negative stuff, we now have to accept helicopter noise over Stuy Town?!
Likely new Blade service from 34 street Heliport to JFK for a “ mere” $195 per person . Available M-F 7am -7 pm
UM, YOU DONT KNOW WHO SOLD US OUT? MET LIFE MY DEAR ALL MET MET MET.
Survey was emailed yesterday.
I'm sure my NO vote will be disregarded, as I also responded that never go to the "cafe", and I'm a 10+ yr resident.
HAR HAR BLACKSTONE WANTS TO RAISE MINIMUM WAGE. DER HOW ABOUT LOWER OVERPRICED RENTAL GARBAGE SHIT YOU RENT TO TENANTS
>>Survey was emailed yesterday.<<
I didn't get it, but I will check today.
>>BLACKSTONE WANTS TO RAISE MINIMUM WAGE<<
For?
I also voted "No" and I'm pretty sure my vote will be ignored because I had to admit I never use the cafe. Have heard too many horror stories about it and it looks unhygienic the way they display the food. Maybe I'll give it a try when the weather gets warmer, but definitely not if it is going to be crowded with boozers.
Some tenants--mainly seniors in true rent-stabilized apartments--lack Internet access to participate in surveys, even though 'results' from them are faked in any event. Blackstone doesn't care; they want these folks dead and gone, ASAP.
Cafe survey link:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FiveStuy
Anybody get the email about the "power plant" they are constructing on the property? WTF? Does this mean that we will get heat in the cold months? So sick of this idiot "Manager" and his crackbrained ideas. Leave us in peace for God's sake!
SEND IN THE CLOWNS
Construction on the fake power plant on AVE C. C loop closed during day. “Contractor was requested to minimize noise...”.
Maybe incessant jackhammering will make the bros and careless people more palatable. Less offensive some how.
Luxury living in hell....happy holidays
It is kind of a nice place to socialize on a nice summer evening. The food is expensive and just so-so. I also voted no on the booze. Although it has been said by many posters that students will not frequent the cafe, I can visualize them picking up beer and wine and hanging out on the paths and in the oval. I also do not believe that security will be enforced effectively.
Can somebody please post the information about the "survey."
Also, about the minimum wage.
Thank you.
On the TA Facebook page. A longtime resident:
>>The last 18 months of our tenancy (and we are lifelong rent stabilized tenants) have been miserable for us due to an upstairs neighbor with not only a lack of common courtesy but a real knack for knowing how to truly get to us. Her actions are intentional and malicious and downright disgusting. We have a son with epilepsy who has been consistently and constantly affected by the levels of noise and vibrations that have come from the apartment above. We’ve had management involved, we’ve had public safety involved and as far as we are concerned, our founded reports were filled out and filed away to never be seen again. We have made the decision (and not even remotely lightly) to give up our unrenovated rent stabilized apartment and move out of here. We feel defeated, we feel sad and most importantly we feel forced out of our home. We are removing our children from their friends, from their school, from everything they’ve ever known because the quality of life for us has been miserable.<<
So far, no link on the two blogs about the Beer and Wine Survey. I had to search for it, and here is the link:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FiveStuy
I also read that lady's post on the TA fb (I'm referring to 5:06 PM poster). I feel very, very sorry for her and her family. I can't help but wonder if, because she is a lifelong tenant in an unrenovated apartment, Management is deliberately not cracking down on the morons upstairs from her. They would like her family out so that they renovate it and rent it for three or five times what her family is paying. Having a child who suffers with epilepsy is very hard. I know it doesn't take a lot to cause a kid like that to have a seizure, but it sounds like the people upstairs are being deliberately malicious. Maybe she should get in touch with one of the TV channels, e.g., Seven on Your Side, or NY1 has an investigative reporter. I think most of them so, but I don't watch tv much these days.
Considering that Rick Hayduk has a daughter with a disability, you'd think he'd be a bit more sympathetic toward this family. Met Life certainly would have handled the situation with more sympathy. Blackstone and its representatives and employees are not known for their empathy and human decency.
If you answered that you have lived here 10+ years, your responses go straight in the trash!! They do not care what RS and long-term MR think about things in this place,
I repeated the link before I read a resident's link. No matter.
I, too, have lived here longer than 10 years. Let's hope when the survey is published, it is not just a percentage but actual numbers. Rick promised he could get this out in a couple of days since the resident meeting, but that wasn't true, was it? Par for the course....
Nothing Rick says is ever true! He's a professional Bullshit Artist.
"I also read that lady's post on the TA fb (I'm referring to 5:06 PM poster). I feel very, very sorry for her and her family."
Whether it’s a renovated apartment or a non-renovated apartment. Blackstone could not give a shit about resolving noise issues since their coveted student/post college transient roommate demo is always in wait, the better to churn and get their 20% NYS RS lease rent increase. See that 3/2/19 Yelp review and you will see what I mean:
“Like everyone else has said, the paper thin walls and floors/ceilings. My wife and I moved in here before our daughter was born, and our horrible upstairs neighbor started with the loud bass, parties, cackling laughter, pacing back and forth in high heels, moving furniture around. All hours. My wife went up there (9 months pregnant) to ask her to keep it down after public safety was useless in getting the neighbor to stop. Our college student neighbor basically told her to F off, and nothing happened. We've had close to two months (I mean literally 60 nights where we called) public safety between 2 and 5 am on this girl. Also over 100 emails to management about it. 2 years later and their big gracious gesture to help us was to allow us the courtesy to move into a more expensive apartment and start a new lease with no transfer fee! What a deal! My wife is in tears, our baby who is now over a year old has been woken up countless times, and I am furious. Our lease is finally up in July and we are moving. It's a shame because Stuy Town could be such a great family community, but instead they nickel and dime you for everything and pay nothing but lip service to the fact that they take lease violations seriously. Our neighbor has multiple noise violations, complaints, legal letters, and nothing has happened. Do not move in here. You will regret it.
NYS RS Rent reform this year in June is Critical!
https://www.yelp.com/biz/stuy-town-new-york
If you were to talk to that ladies neighbors, she is actually the issue in that building. She is struggling with not only her families health but her own. The people along side of her are frightened and worried for her. Please let her be.
If you've a neighbor who frequently, OR always, OR consistently, OR even occasionally, creates noise and vibration and disturbance AND
No one in "Management" stops it,
1. Have you REPEATEDLY CALLED THE POLICE?
2. Have you had at least ONE particularly pointed conversation with the perpetrator in which you, shall we say, PERSUADE them that it is to their advantage to stop making life a living hell?
I hurt for anyone who is subjected to such a situation.
That said, YOU ARE NOT HELPLESS. The New York City Police Department can step in.
If they won't, THEN YOU CAN STEP IN. TRULY, YOU CAN.
Laughable really that the managers here dont give a shit about the noise problem. They seem to enjoy it.
"Laughable really that the managers here dont give a shit about the noise problem. They seem to enjoy it."
It is a form of constructive eviction, which is something that Blackstone is known for. This is a vile organization and they absolutely no human compassion at any level. It is the Sociopath of Landlords.
@9:15PM: Are you talking about the lady with the son who has seizures?
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