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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. They tend to be ignored, despite "the rules." So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change. Sorry.

Friday, November 13, 2015

"The Oval is a Great Resource"


The suits arrived this morning. Lots of laughter amid the talk. The suits stopped at the Oval and one was overhead saying, as he gestured about: "The Oval is a great resource."

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

If they turned it back into a tree park it would be a great resource. So many people in this city want a bit of green and fresh air and that was always the most attractive part of living in the Sty. The apartments are not great, but the parklike grounds always made it the "oasis" in the city. If they returned it to its original state (to the extent possible) they would have people lining up to rent here and wouldn't have to prostitute the place to NYU. Now that the city is on a building higher and denser binge, a property with a lovely tree park would be very sought-after.

Anonymous said...

I think they have plans to build on that entire area. Take your pictures and videos now so that you keep whatever memories of this place you can. Remember, a resource is an asset. Although pretty, I really think this isn't a major attraction to most. Unreal.

Anonymous said...

Did someone say air rights?

Anonymous said...

I thought that part of the agreement with the City was that they would not build on the open spaces?

Anonymous said...

These people are pure EVIL and would stab you in the back while smiling at you. Pure and simple. It makes me sick to my stomach. It was never like this years ago. They are actually playing with peoples lives.

Anonymous said...

1:28 PM - let's hope they are not stupid enough to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

Anonymous said...

I invite you all to come over and look at the mess they've made at the small fountain in PCV.
First they laid in light stone which clashed with the light black asphalt around it. Then they dug out the short inner paths which could have been nice if they laid down more light stone into these squares. But instead they laid down fresh pitch-black asphalt. So now we have 3 tasteless tones: light stone, dark black asphalt and faded black asphalt. Am waiting for them to paint the fountain pink and chartreuse.

Anonymous said...

Didn't dan rezone the OVal for them already?

Anonymous said...

Dan has to go. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. Never, ever trust that man. He has to go. He is an enemy, not a friend, of tenants. REBNY owns him. REBNY owns his soul. What has he ever done to make us think otherwise?

Anonymous said...

Good catch STR. No doubt thewre is something bad brewing on how the city and Blackstone / Canada pension are going to use the Oval space. No doubt the petition/press on
Associated was a PR stunt by DanTA to manipulate the people here (a la DanTA bunker photo rendering) to depict Steinberg and Dan as heroes to offset whatever is upcoming against the Oval.

They will probably say a Cuomo quote like - everything is a compromise, Blackstone and Canada gave you a food store so let them do what they want to and in the Oval.

Yes folks, that is what is comes down to, working class people you can have food so shut up about everything else. They should be ashamed they ever had a food store that serves tens of thousands of people under threat in the first place.

That is embarrassing to the highest degree on our current electeds.

In America a food store serving an entire community under threat. Unbelievable. Where are the regulations that within a radius of TBD blocks and a population of TBD citizens there must be TBD number of affordable food stores, affordable healthcare / hospitals, and other mandatory basic human necessities. Not everyone here can afford to order in from pricey NY restaurants and services that will bring you NYC restaurant meals for dinner for our families or for those within a fixed income budget. They are pushing out the working class and replacing us and with those who eat out, deliver and have larger disposable incomes than a working class person.


That Associated petition and the quick timing of the repsonse to avert any braoder negative publicity was too staged to be believed and it is not a victory. It is a man made problem that should not happen on the watch of a decent politician using the office of elected appropriately and with integrity. It is a PR stunt diversion for whatever is upcoming.

This community is smarter than to fall for these PR stunts (bunker photo, unsafe conditions at the Oval Indoor Sports tent and now this food store). Outrageous!

Tommyboy said...

One of representatives from the new owners, spoke of fondly how he would pass thru from the Union Square area for his jog on the river run. His perspective was that of a pleasant feeling of nature, of course now the outer perimeter along the FDR & Avenue C more resembles a ghost town, with the garbage way-station stinking up the area as well as hijacking of the section. I would appreciate the return of respect of the bulk of the work staff to act like the tenants are not a nuisance but the very reason they are employed.

Anonymous said...

"The Oval is a Great Resource" ................................."For me to poop on!".




Anonymous said...

The petition was not staged by the TA or Garodnick. The petition was initiated by customers of Associated (who may or may not be TA members). Get a grip!

Anonymous said...

John Marsh is on record on the TA fb saying that he wouldn't mind paying an MCI for an under-the=window air conditioner because he likes to open his windows on beautiful fall days. Well, John, we now know where you stand as far as MCIs are concerned. You obviously don't give a ff about the rest of us just so long as it's something you would like. No wonder the TA has been such a miserable failure on the MCI issues and in many other respects. Having you on the board was like having a fox in the chicken house.

Anonymous said...

For years the TA Board leaves blank their bios. Doesn't one of them work for De Blasio?

Anonymous said...

OH Puh-lease! The "man-boys" are out on the ice Sunday at 9:07 AM slap shotting the walls such that it sounds like bombs exploding in my 12th floor apartment. And if I'm being bombed out so is every other apartment around the Oval. So whoever thinks the Oval is a great resource... remember to move your family away from the Oval because you will have your home poisoned with this noise and all the other carnival noise like movie nights and concert nights. 10 guys like to play ice hockey so 100's of families in their homes are punished... that's Great Resource Management!

Anonymous said...

Only an entity as stupid and insensitive as CW would put an ice rink, concerts, movies in a space ringed by apartment buildings. Anywhere else they would be surrounded by open space (think Central Park) or commercial buildings (think Rockefeller Center) or be indoors. To force apartment dwellers to be assaulted by the noise of the ice rink and Oval shit is absolutely outrageous and the hallmark of a company run by total morons.

I hope that CW goes away soon and takes its vile and shoddy "management" company with it. Blackstone would show good faith and good stewardship by dismantling that hideous little rink and restoring the Oval to a place of peace and beauty.

Anonymous said...

Not to mention the moronic woman liking the post about MCI charges and her a/c on Facebook. Apparently the PC woman doesn't give a rats ass about those of us who can't afford another MCI. What a twit.

Anonymous said...

"Not to mention the moronic woman liking the post about MCI charges and her a/c on Facebook. Apparently the PC woman doesn't give a rats ass about those of us who can't afford another MCI. What a twit."

I think there were 4 Likes for Moron Marsh's post about welcoming an MCI for a reconfigured air conditioner. No wonder the TA has never been very successful in getting MCI's reduced or dismissed. With John Marsh as TA President, we had no chance! In reality, we haven't had a real TA for years.

Anonymous said...

F#CK THESE common suited up ASSH*LES and those ignorant tenants who willingly wish MCIs upon themselves. Go move somewhere else you trash and stop making it worse for those who are middle class long time tenants here.

Anonymous said...

Criminal.

Anonymous said...

November 15, 2015 at 9:15 AM

Aaahhh! Luxury Living! Those man-boys need to grow up and let go of their past childhoods!

Anonymous said...

Beware of roving packs of middle aged schlubby men in baggy suits. (shudder)

Anonymous said...

They just can't wait to dive in. It's going to be the SAME OLD %!#@*!. Nothing will change around here.

Anonymous said...

Of course the suits are laughing. All the tax free way to the bank!


“A Luxembourg structure is a way of stripping income from whatever country it comes from,’’ said Stephen E. Shay, a professor of international taxation at Harvard Law School and a former tax official in the U.S. Treasury Department. The Grand Duchy, he said, “combines enormous flexibility to set up tax reduction schemes, along with binding tax rulings that are unique. It’s like a magical fairyland.”

FedEx declined comment on the specifics of its Luxembourg tax arrangements. Other companies seeking tax deals from Luxembourg come from private equity, real estate, banking, manufacturing, pharmaceuticals and other industries, the leaked files show. They include Accenture, Abbott Laboratories, American International Group (AIG), Amazon, Blackstone, Deutsche Bank, the Coach handbag empire, H.J. Heinz, JP Morgan Chase, Burberry, Procter & Gamble, the Carlyle Group and the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority."

http://www.icij.org/project/luxembourg-leaks/leaked-documents-expose-global-companies-secret-tax-deals-luxembourg



Blackstone partner As of June 30, 2015, The Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec (CDPQ) managed net assets of $240,8 billion

$240BILLION

(SARCASM I see why they have a need to pillage our homes, the Canadian Pension Funds really need the money. Blackstone too.

People in elected offices are supposed to protect citizens from predators as this and not make deals with them to bleed us slowly to death. These people in elected offices are abusing their Office and ruining the lives of citizens by feeding us to predators.

In how many ways can this Albany government fail the citizens! No doubt after they steal our homes, the politicians will pretend to care and set up "programs" to rebuild the communities they kicked us out of.

Anonymous said...

It aint going to be the same #&% for some of us. Start breaking leases. Rents are lower all across the city.

Anonymous said...

Wall Street and REBNY

Canadian Bank TD Bank is anchor to Garodnick's SL Green Vanderbilt Towers Corrider

Wells Fargo is taking massive space at Meredith Kane's Massive real estate deal Hudson Yards

https://commercialobserver.com/2015/11/wells-fargo-buying-office-condo-at-30-hudson-yards/


The hedge funds and banks made out superbly from the housing crisis that wiped out the entire middle class and now they are gloating. Small businesses are losing leases wiping out their businesses, tenants are losing homes, devastating families. But the suits are making out very very well because those making the real estate deals make sure the rich are getting richer, getting our homes, our land, our businesses.

Albany is PATHETIC and CORRUPT to the CORE.

Anonymous said...

Hudson Yards is the template for the Stuyvesant Town Peter Cooper Village Development Plan and is Tenant Association lawyer Meredith Kane's most proud achievement. If you can get through this article, past the line about how dumb 300 PCVST tenants are, you will get to the end where she says:

“It’s an example of the government cooperation with the private sector that was really well thought through and has just worked really well,” she said

That is what they tried to do here and are still trying to do, a perfect example of government cooperation with the private sector. The problem with this is twofold:

1. In NY the cooperation between government and the private sector is a well oiled machine and 2. there is a glaring omission from the equation, the PEOPLE. If you can get the People out of the way, out of the equation, then you can build the perfect community, corporate headquarters, mega-banks, and towers for the wealthiest to park their money.

Despite the Tenant Association and Dan's best efforts to stop tenants from speaking up, a few tenants are fighting back and averted or delayed this disastrous development from bringing us down to Blackstone's 1500 number of remaining RS and opening the door for immediate total development.



“I think for me, the Hudson Yards deal will be the deal that I look at and feel that I have seen it from its very beginning stages to now, where it’s just becoming the most enormous, important development in the city,” she said.

Ms. Kane has been the MTA’s primary outside counsel on the Hudson Yards project and has worked on the deal since 2000. She stressed that the amount of press attention and praise Hudson Yards, the largest private real estate development in U.S. history, has received is well deserved.

“It really is the creation of not just a new neighborhood, but a creation of an entire new business district in Manhattan,” she said. “It has had an impact on shaping all of the development in the surrounding area in a way that has gone faster than anyone expected.”

Jeff Rosen, the MTA’s director of real estate, worked closely with Ms. Kane on the project and said that “the legal documentation underlying the West Side Yards is almost as complex in its architecture as the buildings that can now be seen rising above our rail yard, and Meredith has been its primary architect.” He added, “her service to the MTA has been invaluable.”

Part of what makes Hudson Yards remarkable, Ms. Kane said, is the transformation of underutilized, underdeveloped land in Manhattan through the use of public incentives, public infrastructure funding and private development initiatives all put into place.

“It’s an example of the government cooperation with the private sector that was really well thought through and has just worked really well,” she said."

https://commercialobserver.com/2015/01/coveted-counsel-real-estate-lawyer-meredith-kane-talks-about-her-deals-reshaping-the-city/

Anonymous said...

"Only an entity as stupid and insensitive as CW would put an ice rink, concerts, movies in a space ringed by apartment buildings. Anywhere else they would be surrounded by open space (think Central Park) or commercial buildings (think Rockefeller Center) or be indoors. To force apartment dwellers to be assaulted by the noise of the ice rink and Oval shit is absolutely outrageous and the hallmark of a company run by total morons.

I hope that CW goes away soon and takes its vile and shoddy "management" company with it. Blackstone would show good faith and good stewardship by dismantling that hideous little rink and restoring the Oval to a place of peace and beauty."

Well said. In my completed survey plus a follow up email to Blackstone, I basically said the same thing.

Anonymous said...

Oval Walmart coming soon. Thanks Dan and TA!!