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Saturday, November 26, 2016

Please, Sir, Can I Have Some More Whipping?

Dear Residents, please enjoy!

(I didn't know that Saturday would also be the day that the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene would shut Five Stuy Cafe for infractions. So this blog posting is very appropriate as it marks one of the first times that the city has decided to close a commercial property in Stuyvesant Town. In, like in "inside," and unless I'm mistaken there was no sign which told that the drinks and food were for "residents and their guests." Much like the adjacent Green Market. This sign is something mandated by the DoB and our good councilman Dan Garodnick. It was not shown anywhere as far as I know. No matter, the closure by the Dept. of Health and Mental Hygiene was not because of the lack of this sign. As soon as the city tells us, we will inform residents why the place was closed, which had to be closed for a number of violations. This blog posting will address this issue specifically.)

Morning, 11/28/16:

It's worse than I thought. A photo to explain, partially:


Update, 11/28/16..Why it was closed (not counting the above, which is against the law): 

Violations recorded in the following area (s), a Notice of Violation issued and establishment ordered closed by the Department of Health at the initial operational cycle inspection conducted on 11/26/2016.

"Critical" violations are displayed in red.

Violation points: 50

Sanitary Violations

1) Hot food item not held at or above 140º F.
2) Cold food item held above 41º F (smoked fish and reduced oxygen packaged foods above 38 ºF) except during necessary preparation.
3) Food from unapproved or unknown source or home canned. Reduced oxygen packaged (ROP) fish not frozen before processing; or ROP foods prepared on premises transported to another site.
4) Food Protection Certificate not held by supervisor of food operations.
5) Personal cleanliness inadequate. Outer garment soiled with possible contaminant. Effective hair restraint not worn in an area where food is prepared.
6) Food not protected from potential source of contamination during storage, preparation, transportation, display or service.

7) Non-food contact surface improperly constructed. Unacceptable material used. Non-food contact surface or equipment improperly maintained and/or not properly sealed, raised, spaced or movable to allow accessibility for cleaning on all sides, above and underneath the unit.
8) Proper sanitization not provided for utensil ware washing operation.

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Let's revisist Rick Hayduk's message to tenants:

Dear Residents of PCVST,

This afternoon at approximately 4:15pm the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene closed Five Stuy Café for infractions that were predominantly administrative in nature.

StuyTown Property Services is working closely with the third party operator of the café to resolve the infractions and subsequently schedule the necessary return visit by the inspector.

The infractions and a description of the infractions will be made public on the City’s website at www1.nyc.gov. Once posted, you’ll note most were administrative; there were also general food infractions that were immediately resolved.

The operators of Five Stuy are greatly disappointed, especially after receiving an “A” rating from their last inspection. They are committed to resolving the outstanding issues while implementing procedures such that the infractions are never revisited.

StuyTown Property Services shares their disappointment but remains confident in their ability to serve the residents of PCVST safe and delicious food, as they have since opening this past summer.

Should you have any questions or concerns, please direct them to the GM feedback line at 212.598.5288 or feedback@stuytown.com.

Rick Hayduk
CEO | General Manager

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"Safe and delicious"? "Predominantly administrative"? You be the judge.

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This is the "A" grade given to Five Stuy Cafe on 7/28/16, "current" violations in red. Notice that this one critical violation is back again at number 6 in the new rating, of which only two restaurants in this zip code have been closed, the other being "The Vacancy Project":

1) Food not protected from potential source of contamination during storage, preparation, transportation, display or service.
2) Plumbing not properly installed or maintained; anti-siphonage or backflow prevention device not provided where required; equipment or floor not properly drained; sewage disposal system in disrepair or not functioning properly.

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Take a look at the critical vs. general violations. There were six critical violations in Five Stuy Cafe. Also closing and re-opening.

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Update 11/30/16: Since it has been raining yesterday and lousy today, chances are I won't be able to present more photos of the Five Stuy Cafe. The torn notice from the city is still there, of course. 

I should say that Monday I took some more photos, some of which didn't come out as I wanted and one of which I didn't really want to show. It was a splayed out and very dead black squirrel not far from Oval Study. It was lying near the pedestrian walkway, but thankfully picked up before I got back. (Today, a Zamboni is going around and around the walkway smelling up the place, while it tries to gather all the fallen leaves.) Starting yesterday, from what I see, there are some people (one, two?) in the cafe trying to fix the place for the new inspection. The many spots outside where dogs piss are not part of the violations. I took photos of the darkened areas, though. How you can eat or drink, while a dog pisses nearby...well, it's up to you. Bon appetit!

Update 11/30/16:

Gone! The notice of closure of Five Stuy Cafe has been torn some more and wiped clean. It was there (the torn one) in the morning hours, but pre-lunch it has been completely erased/deep-sixed. There is an explanation which is not suspect. Let me repeat in case this is a "trap"--there is an explanation which is not suspect. But if you go to Five Stuy Cafe, you will find no sign.

I've taken photos, btw, but I must leave for a while.

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Rick's new message to our community below. Note there is nothing to indicate that another voice, an employee, wrote the previous message. Rick doesn't distance himself from that first message, so it stands as coming from him.


Dear Residents of PCVST,

As stated in my note this past Saturday, Five Stuy Café, located on the Oval, was regrettably required to cease operation by the City’s Department of Health and Mental Hygiene (DHMH) after a routine inspection. The operator of the Café has been working diligently to rectify the violations in cooperation with the DHMH and was re-inspected today.

As such, StuyTown Property Services (SPS) is pleased to inform residents that the DHMH has authorized the re-opening of the Café tomorrow, Thursday, December 1st, at 6am.

SPS can assure residents, consistent with the DHMH’s re-inspection, that there are no further concerns with food preparation or food transportation processes. In accordance with standard DHMH protocol, the Café will have a “Pending” grade until a follow-up inspection is performed. At the conclusion of that inspection, the DHMH will re-issue a letter grade. Five Stuy Café’s operator has taken responsibility for the deficiencies, quickly corrected them, and asks the valued residents of PCVST to return to the Café to experience what has made them so successful since opening this summer. As a further expression of the operator’s sincere desire to welcome you back, enjoy a free Dough doughnut with the purchase of any item tomorrow (Thursday, December 1st) from 7 – 10am and 6 – 8pm.

Should you have any further questions or concerns, please contact the GM feedback line at 212.598.5288 or feedback@stuytown.com or stop by to speak with the Café's operations manager.

Rick Hayduk
CEO | General Manager

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Right now the cafe has a "Grade Pending" rating. Once the new rating by the city will be given, it should appear in front of the window.

I asked whether the Tripp and Cooper restaurant, in Brooklyn, is owned by the same LLC--Cooper Cafe--as is Five Stuy Cafe. Interestingly, all the available references of Five Stuy Cafe are in the name of Stuyvesant Town, so this is a more difficult nut to crack. It appears that Tripp and Cooper is owned by the same people, though the specialty at Tripp and Cooper is crepes. The food/drink signs are similar and it is near Brooklyn Tech, so it has a college clientele. I am not, however, assuming that it is the same. If it is the same, the grading history is of interest. A summary is here. While currently the grade is A, it wasn't that way in the past. It doesn't surprise one that some constant problems exist: their Food Protection Certificate is frequently unavailable and the current letter grade is not posted all the time. The current letter grade is not "critical," so the establishment can piss off this requirement and still get an A grade. Again, I am not certain that the two establishments are owned by the same people, but I have my suspicions. 

Also it should be noted that initially the "ungraded" grade of Five Stuy Cafe was B. This is never mentioned by anyone. All one hears about is A.

Incidentally this is the news item on this closure by TOWN & VILLAGE.  Note the doggie urine stains on the side low wall.

Well, tomorrow, December 1st, Five Stuy Cafe opens again. Good luck!

157 comments:

Anonymous said...

What are you talking about, STR?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Fill in the blank. We have lost a few important things, never to come back. We are accepting what is being offered us, thinking (at least the newtimers) that it's wonderful. It isn't.

Edmund Dunn said...

Or "Thank you sir, may I have another?"

Same MO.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFLPn30dvQ

Anonymous said...

wasn't the rate on the AC monthly lowered? anyone know what the new rate is per unit/? thank u.

Anonymous said...

we lost affordable housing for the MC and families here. Sad fucking times in NYc. embarrassed now to call us new yorkers.

Edmund Dunn said...

"wasn't the rate on the AC monthly lowered? anyone know what the new rate is per unit/? thank u."


The NYSHCR link and text thread were provided at the TA FB page:


http://www.nyshcr.org/Rent/OperationalBulletins/orao844_31.pdf
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"DHCR has published the new A/C charges that went into effect on October 1. Because electrical costs went down this year (as did other costs, hence the rent freeze), the A/C charge has gone down. It will now be $26.65 per month per air conditioner. The decision came too late to be included in the October rent bills, so we should see a credit on our November bills."

"Please check your October and November rent bills. The October bill should have been the same as the September one—the old rate. The November bill should have been LESS than @$26.65 because the A/C charge should have included a credit for the October overcharge. The December rent bill should show @$26.65. If this isn't the case for you, you should contact management."


Anonymous said...

Stuytown Cafe closed by Department of Health. Maybe they were selling the compost these idiots are collecting in our buildings.

Anonymous said...

Cafe closed by Health Department.

Too much dog shit and piss on sidewalk outside premises!!!!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Cafe closed by Health Department.<<

Seriously?

Anonymous said...

Yes, seriously! Why doesn't this stinking, stupid, so-called "management" just stick to running the place as a decent residential property and leave us the fuck alone when it comes to "amenities" such as a cafe, Christmas tree sales outlet, fucking nasty concerts and all the rest of the Carnival Cruise shit that they foist on us. We pay HIGH rent to live in LIVABLE APARTMENTS!!! This is NYC so we can get coffee, snacks, breakfast and many more things OFF the property (and not very far away) and don't need management's inferior, lame attempts to provide us with "amenities." Godammit, Assholes, you can't even organize the recycling rooms so they work and you are trying to branch out into other things. Stick to what you are supposed to do and work on doing it better than you have been doing. We will get our coffee off the fucking campus!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Yes. Seriously. How very appropriate my new posting! Spot on!

Part of the bull on the non-TA site:

>>Dear Residents of PCVST,

This afternoon at approximately 4:15pm the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene closed Five Stuy Café for infractions that were predominantly administrative in nature.<<

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I will know just how "predominantly administrative" these infractions were. I wonder if some of them were related to my difficulty with Five Star Cafe? The cafe was warned by me and others. Now we shall see! And thank you city for closing this dog piss and shit hole! A black eye for Blackstone. My faith has been slightly restored.

Anonymous said...

I was grossed out in the summer when I saw that the pastries did not have a cover and flies could easily get on them and, worse still, people could breath on them!

If they channeled their efforts into making this a quiet, clean and respectable residential complex and less of a dorm with stupid sideshows, we would all be better off.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Until tomorrow! But, boy oh boy, this closure is big news!

Anonymous said...

I agree 100% with the above posters that these so-called amenities are a bunch of crap. The reason why they have these "amenities" is to attempt to justify the high rentals here. In truth there are no real amenities like doormen and swimming pools, so they have to advertise this crap such as a café, concerts, and movies. The QOL here is disgusting, it is a real student/hotel dump. Every day I see more and more transients moving in and out. The so-called amenities are Blackstone's attempt to cover up their crimes.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

From personal experience: Barking dogs at the cafe. There was at least one dog ("aw, isn't he cute?") that barked continually and loudly at other dogs, either dogs at the cafe or being walked around the Oval. Dogs were allowed to prance on the tables, too. Now this must be a violation! And it is not just newcomers with these dogs. I would see elderly ladies sitting with their Fidos at the Oval cafe tables. Blackstone was careless, and because of the dollar sign let these residents do whatever they wanted with their four legged friends. (Again: "Aw, aren't they cute?")

The place, when I took a look in the late afternoon, was filthy. No excuse.

Because of the dollar sign, Blackstone let this complex disentegrate. Fuck the signs; we have more than enough, and the "good neighbor" policy is not working. I see infractions of "the rules" every time I go out. Let me repeat that: every time I go out. It could be clumps of dog shit, dogs that are more than 50 pounds, bikes being ridden around the Oval, speeding skateboards, smelly and wasteful zambonis, PS officers who look the other way on purpose, laundry carts that are being used outside of the laundry room, filthy recyclable areas, barking dogs in apartments, pounding hockey pucks, etc, it is all here and more. Blackstone wake up! This is an opportunity to start enforcing "the rules," instead of looking the other way and hoping residents get "it" or help enforcement. Unfortunely I know which way you will choose to go. The easist way, which will be to BS residents and continue on. There may be a week or two of tightening "the belt," but otherwise it is expected that everything will continue. Surprise me. That would be something!

Anonymous said...

STY town

Stuy Town Reporter said...

The new grade is not up yet. It should be tomorrow or the day after. The site shows the earlier grade, 9 (A), which was reduced from 19, as an attempt is made to have the restaurant fix the problems first. If this wasn't the case, and 19 was the score of the first "official" inspection, the grade would have been B.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

According to Rick, GM from Blackstone, the food at the cafe is "safe and delicious".... We will check once the closure is written about.

Anonymous said...

Now that the greenmarket is done for the season, does that mean that dog owners can let their dogs shit and piss in the area where they used to set up? They need more shitting and pissing area.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

The ungraded inspection of Stuy Five Cafe was on 6/30/16. 19 points were given and a time period in which the cafe could improve. The final grade was A, 9 points, of which the following was in red, a "critical violation:"

"Food not protected from potential source of contamination during storage, preparation, transportation, display or service."

Anonymous said...

Has anyone checked for mold in their apartments at stuy or P cv? I believe it is very bad, toxic levels.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Now that the greenmarket is done for the season, does that mean that dog owners can let their dogs shit and piss in the area where they used to set up? They need more shitting and pissing area.<<

Can let? What I've seen is dogs doing "their thing" regardless of the greenmarket. Some owners do not care. So greenmarket or not, the dog will do what he or she has to do. Aw, isn't he/she cute!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

And how many times have I seen dogs being walked on the "green market" gravel? What's it to you?

Anonymous said...

I'm not crying. They seemed unconcerned when I gave them some good tips.

Anonymous said...

Am not sorry to see that café closed. As other posters have stated, I can go outside for food. I bought a donut there once. Quite expensive and tasted awful Dunkin Donuts is better. Also bought a sandwich which was so-s0. We do not need a café in here, another place to attract food and vermin.

Anonymous said...

Just read a negative review on Yelp that was written by a NYU student. Every other word is "like." I guess they write the same way they speak. Didn't sound like a very intelligent person and was definitely a parentally-funded one. As someone said somewhere else on this blog, NYU and Sty will take in anything with a checkbook and a pulse.

Atomic Man said...

infractions that were predominantly administrative in nature

Hmmmm... maybe the forgot to "administer" some bleach and water to the puddles of dog piss in the "patio."

Seriously, as a Real Rent Stabilized tenant, I have never, and will never, give a dime of my business to any of the so-called "amenities". I even avoid shopping or dining at any of PCVST's commercial tenants. Why give them your hard earned dollars only to see some of it flipped back to the landlord, who wants nothing more than your quickest vacancy?

Anonymous said...

@Atomic Man .. Associated is the only store that I will patronize that is a tenant of our stinky landlord. Associated is, imo, an asset to the community, especially the seniors and disabled who live in Stuyvesant Town. It's probably too far a schlep for tenants who live in PCV. I know it is not the easiest of stores to shop in because it is so small and cluttered, but the prices are great and the people who work there are very, very nice. I would never, ever, even if I was starving and no place else was open, spend a dime in Five Turd Cafe. Just the sight of all the dog shit around the place would make me gag on my food.

Edmund Dunn said...

Ditto to 10.18 PM.

I Got Da Runs Ralph said...

There is an infestation of roaches and vermin in the Five Turd Café. Water was heated at the below required level and mouse droppings were noted. That is why it was closed. Any comments by Rick Hydick that issues were predominantly "administrative" is total BS. Bon apetit suckers!

Anonymous said...

Rules are definitely meant to be broken in this dump!

Anonymous said...

Dan who?

Anonymous said...

I believe the first four violations are at condition level IV, the last two are condition level 1. This is a clear indication of a serious issue and thus why they were closed. Gotta love the b/s spin from Rick!

Anonymous said...

Someone must have gotten sick from the food for the city to give Blackstone any kind of grief on anything Blackstone Ivanhoe Cambridge do to tenants. Only a looming lawsuit from injury or sickness could get the city to enforce anything in PCVST. Once the "third party" remedies the city violations then the city can say they are not liable for a lawsuit and Blackstone Ivanhoe Cambridge will minimize their risk. This stinks of a cover your ass risk management maneuver by the city and by their Ivanhoe Cambridge Blackstone pals.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Gotta love the b/s spin from Rick!<<

Whatever they publicly state, they are pissed at this closure.

Anonymous said...

Looks like they tried to remove or deface the notice so that it couldn't be read. This is a really lawless and conscienceless management. I hope the appropriate City agency gets on the stick and does something about the overstuffed "flex" dorms.

I guess they couldn't bribe the inspectors from the Health Department the way they bribe the DoB and other City agencies.

Anonymous said...

Your WELCOME, STR! Way to make yourself look good instead of giving credit to others.

Anonymous said...

Gross! Glad I have never and will never eat there. I agree with those who boycott all PCVST stores with the exception of Associated.

Anonymous said...

WHOMEVER IS BOTHERED by noise, we should not pay rent for this nuisance. I say those who are affected by constant heels, no rugs, kid running amock, loud head banger music, do not pay rent.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Your WELCOME, STR! Way to make yourself look good instead of giving credit to others.<<

And you are? Incidentally, it is "you are" WELCOME. Instead of "Your"...

And you are crazy or very misinformed.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't surprise me that Rick Hayduk put up a false statement concerning the closing of the café This blackstone PR machine is a joke. Signs, notices, and more signs. All PR crap.

Anonymous said...

That is so gross that they were not cleaning the forks and spoons!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for always giving the community the truth STR.

Anonymous said...

ignore the trolls str, it's blackstone trolls.

Anonymous said...

i'm going to photo the ripped off violation and send it to them. it is illegal to do this.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps investigating the original A rating inspector and inspection is in order.

Anonymous said...

I'll have an ecoli sandwich. Yummy nummmmnz.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>i'm going to photo the ripped off violation and send it to them. it is illegal to do this.<<

It certainly is!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>ignore the trolls str, it's blackstone trolls.<<

I'm willing, no, wanting to face off anyone as far as this community goes. Remember I see things and have a camera!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Perhaps investigating the original A rating inspector and inspection is in order.<<

Actually, it is very easy to get an "A" rating when you open up, as you are given a chance to redeem your store after the initial review, which is not official. Five Stuy Cafe received an initial "B", but they were able to up it to an "A" once they improved. There was one "critical" note, which returned again this time! So the cafe wasn't listening. I will talk about this some more in a further posting.

Anonymous said...

YES YES OMG OMG OMG GET CARPETS. AFTER LISTNING AGAIN TO THE UPSTAIRS NEIGHBORS DRAG THINGS BACK AND FORTH WHILE ALSO NOT TAKING SHOES OFF I AM GOING TO LOSE IT REALLY LOSE IT.

FUCK FUCKING BLACKSTONE. TKE CARE OF THIS NOW!

Anonymous said...

So what does it mean to call any of these violations 'administrative'. This is just euphemistic bullshit. Sure, restaurants are closed by the DHMH because of poor administration...messy file cabinets, poor communication procedures, not enough secretaries.

Accept lies and being treated like idiots and they'll treat you like you're all idiots.

Anonymous said...

Why didn't Heyduk name the third party operator? Is that a secret?

Anonymous said...

According to online ordering this is not a cafe. This is a full blown restaurant. When did the zoning change to "commercial" to allow a restaurant in the Oval?

Anonymous said...

This is obviously a false story. There is no way a property manager the stature of Rick hayduck would allow this food establishment to be run in anything less than a stellar capacity. He knows that it would reflect badly upon him and his ability to run this property in a competent fashion. This is how I know this report is without merit.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

There is an "issue" regarding the grading and its wording. My way is fairly easy: 1) Put into Google: Restaurant Grades - NYC.gov 2) Then just put in the info: Name: FiveStuy Cafe, zip code: 10009. The website lists the first two as one word, btw, but it shouldn't matter. The last page will be the closed restaurants in this zip code. There may be an easier way, but that is the way I do it. If you just click on the link that Rick Hayduk's email sent you, it will take more time and be a bit confusing. As to Rick's message: He has had the same amount of time to read the report as everyone else. So.the info that he is unaware, well...by now, he shouldn't be. He can always amend his letter to tenants.

As I said in a previous message, Blackstone is pissed at this closure and, from what I gather, pissed at Five Stuy Cafe. Whether they are also pissed at the various sites (including this one) is another matter. They should be pissed at themselves too, for not being on top of the situation, even before the closure. My prediction, however, is that Blackstone will not change.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

BTW, I am starting to get messages that try to anger me and influence my commentary and the commentary of my readers. I just laugh and deep six these "messages."

Anonymous said...

yeah, sometimes it's good to know the ISP address - like the one that arrives from the Blackstone office I am so sure.

Diarrhea Dan said...

It has come to my attention that a Stuyvesant Town employee, under direct orders from management, defaced and destroyed the Order to Close notice posted on the door of the FiveStuyCafe. This is ILLEGAL and an outrage.
Your comment, Mr. Rick Hydick?
True or untrue?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I hope it would not be true. My comment.

If true, we (or rather the city) will need names, etc. Also missing is a notice that is dark purple and seen on Instagram. It was there initially.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I don't know if this will work. The "dark purple" or blue notice was on the non-official Facebook page, too:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1837110883191072&set=gm.1055846194543571&type=3&theater

Anonymous said...

Here's an article about closing procedure:
http://www.ehagroup.com/food-safety/new-york-abc-restaurant-grading/

If followed, it means the 'cafe' failed with a score of 28 or more 3 times. So where was Rick after the first two times?

I dare say that if 'closings' required Board approval, the cafe would still be open. Blackstone holds a lot of sway here.

Apparently, inspectors have a great deal of independence and (if they chose to) probably could raise quite a stink with the media if the Board tried to influence.

Anonymous said...

Is Town & Village waiting for the green light before they break the news and the green light to publish the story is waiting for the usual players to get their ducks in a row to PR spin a hazard into a heroic problem solved. Can't wait to see the spin they put on this health violation.

Thank you STR for breaking the news

Anonymous said...

off topic and unbelievable
Who would be so stupidly greedy to build a luxury tower on a landfill?

Leaning San Francisco Tower Seen Sinking From Space

By jocelyn gecker, associated press

SAN FRANCISCO — Nov 28, 2016, 7:55 PM ET
WATCH VIDEO
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/san-franciscos-sinking-tower-space-43831433

Anonymous said...

Does the DOH know that the certificate was scratched over and removed? oooooooooooooooooooo that' juicy

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>If followed, it means the 'cafe' failed with a score of 28 or more 3 times. So where was Rick after the first two times?<<

Not the way I read it for the first time opening, which is different.

Anonymous said...

T&V doesn't print anything not vetted by Management.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I think they will have something on the closure. What they will have is another question however!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

They will print the spin from management, if management is going to spin.

afbp said...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/nyregion/new-york-today-dogs-outdoor-restaurants-dining.html

Anonymous said...

Via afbp's link: apparently Mary Bassett, commissioner of the DHMH, is a dog lover. Good to know thew biases of those charged to serve the public.

Anonymous said...

As expected, a T&V "puff" piece.

https://town-village.com/2016/11/30/5-stuy-cafe-closed-after-health-inspection/

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Well, they didn't do any investigative reporting. No surprise.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Also, if this is Rick's word, then it (the word) sucks.

Anonymous said...

They serve "artisanal" donuts.

Give me A BREAK!!!!!



Anonymous said...

t & v does not investigate, period.

Anonymous said...

Let's hope it is all cleaned up. That was a lot of bad stuff listed. This property and community deserves better than that level of business violations. It is good though, that the Town & Village picked up on the possible home cook item because that is a really dangerous situation. Plus whoever owns the restaurant is hiding behind an LLC and that is not a good sign. It is a good thing the City is on top of this.

Anonymous said...

Artisanal donuts? I think they are made in someone's home kitchen. A kitchen that is never inspected and probably has dirty baby diapers on the counter where the batter is made.

I Gotta Go Real Bad said...

I spoke to a number of folks who patronized the Five Turd café.
They particularly recommended the coffee, pastries and the signature sandwiches.
They raved about the bonus received after a few hours: back in Brooklyn we called it the Hershey Squirts.
Hahahahaha...any fool who indulges in their overpriced, undercooked crap deserves what they get.
"Waiter, another order of Kaopectate please."
Hahahahaha!
Kind of makes you wish for the return of Tishman-Speyer...NOT.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Plus whoever owns the restaurant is hiding behind an LLC and that is not a good sign.<<

Does this LLC also own Tripp and Cooper Cafe in Brooklyn?

Anonymous said...

got bigger fish to fry though , what about the overcharges?????????????????????

Anonymous said...

Great comment on T&V site. Too true!

Anonymous said...

I wish i could send you an audio of the noise from above right now. They have no carpets and are pushing things constantly back and forth, to and fro. then bang and bang and bang.

i have no idea what they are doing and 1. i call security and in an hour or more when they arrive, it has stopped or 2. security confirms it.

the office did a so called inspection and said they have carpets. mother fucking liars, they do not. this is the landlord we have. mother fuckers.

Anonymous said...


This dump is an illegal COMMERCIAL restaurant operation. It is NOT a resident amenity. All are welcome, residents and non-residents, no Stuy Town IDs are required or asked for, no signs (see ice rink) are posted accordingly. They even deliver to ANYONE. This café is located in the NYC zoned classified R7-2 (residential use only) designation of the interior of Stuy Town.

http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/zoning/zoning-maps/map12c.pdf

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I will have a response later. Rick's newest message is predictable. They (management) will try to make residents forget the closure and Blackstone's administration will not change here, but ram on with their idiocies. So an opportunity was lost.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Rick works for Blackstone. He doesn't work for us, the residents, nor in particular the residents who care and are long-term here. He works for Blackstone and is beholden to the company. He may be a "nice guy" and the elder ladies may like him, but he is Blackstone's man. We cannot forget that.

Anonymous said...

November 30, 2016 at 6:22 PM Blackstone The first 25 seconds tell it like it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HQtVOb5zMo

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Problem is how is Blackstone going to "fix it"? Unless they lie. Which is possible, of course. If they can "fix it," they are welcome, but I don't think they can do it, if we see what the results are almost a year on.

BIGMO said...

Don't the leases stipulate that all 'walking areas' of an apartment are supposed to be covered by rugs or carpets?

It seems to me that the landlord (Blackstone) has to apply this standard uniformly to all apartments. I would think they could open themselves up to a class-action lawsuit by tenants who feel the landlord is not complying with it's own lease regulations.

I will contact a few attorneys regarding this issue. If any attorneys are reading this blog perhaps you can comment as well.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Blackstone has, they say, a long-term commitment to this place. Unless part of the plain is to gradually tear it down and build super deluxe high-rises, I don't see how they can fix it. BTW, don't think that residents would over-squawk at the demolition of this place. While the old-timers may do squawk, the old-timers are getting less and less, and super deluxe high-rises, if done appropriately, can be made appealing. We, of course, would get no rest, but since this property has been sold for over 5 billion, when have we gotten real rest?

Edmund Dunn said...

BIGMO:

It's in the lease AND at their official web page:



https://www.stuytown.com/nyc-apartments-info/living-basics#Section4



Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Don't the leases stipulate that all 'walking areas' of an apartment are supposed to be covered by rugs or carpets?<<

Seems that way. In my research on the cafe, I came across an Instagram page for StuyTown, and saw numerous photos of rooms NOT carpeted at all. Ha, and the people were proud of their home! I will post in the future.

Anonymous said...

Diarrhea Deluxe open again for business! Thanks, but No Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Something is fishy with this holiday inspection and 24 hour turnaround. What other restaurant gets that kind of service from City inspectors?

Anonymous said...

I have never seen any place re-evaluated so quickly. Tell me there weren't major strings pulled here. Please tell me.

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone want to eat there closed or not? There is a constant outpouring of piss and shit in the general vicinity 24/7. Please don't tell me it's just like the rest of the city. You do not have piss/shit concentration outside the sty as you do inside the sty.

Anonymous said...

I would not eat at that "cafe" if they were giving food and drink away for free. Nasty, dirty, shitty place that is reflective of everything about Blackstone. They will probably use the contents of the new compost bins for ingredients in their "artisanal" donuts. Everything about this place stinks of bribery and corruption. Anybody up for an E-Coli sandwich with a side-dish of salmonella? The Rick Special that will speed you to the ER.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Now, now. I'm sure their "artisanal" donuts are quite good. To remember: the cafe has not received a new grade, but just is "pending," which means the inspector has not yet come around to make sure everything is on the up and up. Which it should be, considering!

Of course, I would get rid of the four-legged friends and their taking over the outside of the cafe, to include urinating on the wall nearby and walking/resting on the outside tables, but that's me. I'm strange that way.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

BTW, I will check, if not done already, whether this place has the appropriate, and mandated, sign "for residents and their guests." I know it is a bs sign, but all "non-commercial" businesses should have such a sign.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

LOL. Nice morning, and I already see little pissers (ie, dogs) at Five Stuy Cafe. On top of the low wall and tables. What's it to you?... Not many people, but it should change, knowing the way some people are.

Hershey Squirts Redux said...

StuyTurdCafe UPDATE:
6:30AM - went in, bought a coffee, and one of their "delicious, homemade artisanal" pastries.
7:30AM - rumblings in my stomach.
8:00AM - growling gets more pronounced, cramps.
9:00AM - RETURN OF THE HERSHEY SQUIRTS
"Hasten, Jason. Get the basin.
To late!
Oh, oh. Plop, plop.
Get da' mop."
10:00AM - trotting over to CVS to buy some Kaopectate.

Diarrhea Dan said...

Overheard at the StuyTownCafe earlier this morning:
Patron: "I'll have a coffee and a diarrhea...um, I mean, a donut please".
Server: "Coming right up, Sir! Milk, sugar or e-coli in your coffee?
Patron: "Uh, I don't know. I'll just have the Rick Hydick special. Hey, how come he's doubled over and turning green?"
Server: "I dunno. Anyway I gotta clean up. The Board of Health can drop by any minute. Gotta hide the garbage by the fridge. Maybe if we get lucky we'll pass".

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Come on, guys! LOL. The artisanal donuts, with real dough, can't be bad! I almost want to taste them myself. If Fido would stop pissing on me!

Anonymous said...

They should NOT allow dogs on the tables, even outside. That in and of itself is a health violation. Maybe we need to take photographs when we see a dog on a cafe table and send it to the Health Dept.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

As noted, a NYC restaurant can have dogs if it wants to, but there are "rules." Having your Fido on the table outside or have him pissing nearby...

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Aside from a Fido walking the wall, Five Stuy Cafe looks kinda dead. Lunch crowd soon, I guess.

Anonymous said...

I think this egg has been fried. Expect the cafe to get an A. I hope there will be a similar sustained bright spotlight and community pressure on the powers that be to implement the new composting program properly, however that looks.

Anonymous said...

11:59 AM: Forget about the composting program. That is a non-starter because Management can't even implement the recycling program. The recycling areas will soon be almost as unhealthy as the StuyTurd Cafe. If a spotlight is to be shone, I would like it to be on the hoards of people living in the fire-hazard flex apartments with the revolving doors. Ya know, those apartments that are chopped up to three or four bedrooms from legally being one or two bedrooms. When it comes to MCIs, Management doesn't count the extra bedrooms and pretend that they don't exist. When it comes to advertising this dump, then they are "real" rooms.

Anonymous said...

The stupidity of this DHMH is unparalleled. If a dog in an al fresco area decides it's time to shit or piss, it will do it right there or the owner will bolt up, move the dog and you still may have the pleasure of watching the dog piss and shit while you're eating. Thank you so much Mary Bassett and the DHMH.

Anonymous said...

Anyone want to vomit?

https://town-village.com/2016/12/01/letters-to-the-editor-dec-1-2/#more-14056

Why I’m grateful this holiday season ... I am grateful that we have finally achieved some real stability in Blackstone as our still-newish owner ... I am grateful for a strong and wary tenants association, which is practical and pragmatic in its efforts to protect our rights and our quality of life. (And let’s not forget that it was the TA whose years-long work with top legal and financial advisers led to the Blackstone takeover.) Grateful, too, for its outstanding leaders and volunteers who deserve much but get too little recognition ... I am grateful we have our own outstanding hometown City Council member, Dan G. who, for more than ten years has tirelessly defended our community and whose accomplishments are too numerous to list in this letter...

John Marsh, PCV

-----

The only "stability" our disgraced TA led by John Marsh achieved was identifying Blackstone as the Wall Street/REBNY predator successfully realizing Speyer's vision raking in multiple billion dollar windfalls pushing our historic middle class community out of PCVST.

NYC Mayor de Blasio and NYC Councilman Garodnick, both elected to defend us against Wall Street/REBNY predators, could not needlessly deliver the entire PCVST complex and our PCVST homes right back into the claws of Wall Street/REBNY predators without our disgraced TA led by John Marsh betraying all their 25,000 neighbors/constituents.

PCVST residents holding exclusive access to $2.7 Billion Fannie Mae purchase funding plus the sale of 10.7 Million square feet PCVST development rights worth Billions more cleared a path for PCVST residents to own the entire PCVST complex and our homes IN PERPETUITY without a phony partner.

Our disgraced TA led by John Marsh needlessly handed over our exclusive access to $2.7 Billion Fannie Mae purchase funding to major Wall Street/REBNY predator Blackstone in exchange for NOTHING benefitting any of their actual living, breathing PCVST neighbors/constituents, many of whom notwithstanding rent/income are financially distressed affording to remain in their PCVST homes. To justify their betrayal, our disgraced TA led by John Marsh conjured up a vague, futuristic, income capped, time limited, extremely lucky, lottery winning PCVST resident constituency lacking RS protection. It does not currently exist and may never exist. No vague, futuristic, lottery winning PCVST resident has ever paid one cent TA membership dues. It's a phantom constituency they betrayed us for.

De Blasio and our disgraced TA handed over to Blackstone our $2.7 Billion Fannie Mae purchase funding. Blackstone owns the entire PCVST complex. Blackstone owns our 11,230 formerly middle class PCVST homes. Blackstone has already assembled for sale a 700,000 square foot PCVST development rights package worth up to $650 Million. Blackstone owns 10 million square feet additional PCVST development rights worth $$$$ Billions more. (For sale raking in $$$$ Billions in the near future? Or, for constructing 10 Chrysler Building-sized towers on 80 acres after demolishing our PCVST homes?)

Major Wall Street/REBNY predator Blackstone takes EVERYTHING. PCVST middle class residents receive NOTHING. De Blasio and Garodnick are happy with that outcome. Politicians were paid to engineer that outcome and pretend the PCVST middle class extinction they engineered is somehow a historic middle class victory. They will forever pretend the best possible outcome from Speyer failing to rake in multiple billion dollar windfalls pushing our historic middle class community out of PCVST is Blackstone successfully raking in multiple billion dollar windfalls pushing our historic middle class community out of PCVST.

Is our disgraced TA led by John Marsh really happy with that outcome? PCVST middle class extinction is the desired outcome you keep congratulating yourselves and your "advisors" about?

Anonymous said...

"He may be a "nice guy" and the elder ladies may like him, but he is Blackstone's man. We cannot forget that."

STR, you are always maligning us "elder ladies!" I fall into that demographic and so do many of my friends who live here and elsewhere, and I can tell you flat out that we are not that fucking stupid! We don't think Rick is a "nice guy" just like we didn't think Sean Sullivan was a "nice guy," and we most certainly don't think that Daniel Garodnick is a "nice guy." We can't stand these guys because we, drawing from our wisdom and ability to see through bullshit (skills acquired from a lives well lived and having been many a trial and tribulation) see right through them and know that they are full of self-serving shit! Gottit? I hope so!

By the way, do you assume "elder men" to be smart enough to not think these turds are "nice guys" or is it just we ladies who you think a dumb old broads?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>STR, you are always maligning us "elder ladies!"<

You do know I wasn't talking about you and your friends! (He said, sweating.)

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>Anyone want to vomit?<

In many ways this is a classic!

This guy, Marsh, is really off his rocker, but entertaining.

Anonymous said...

"This guy, Marsh, is really off his rocker, but entertaining."

One can't help vacillating between amusement and fury. Seriously.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

As long as Marsh is under discussion: How is that tenant action outside of the PCVST leasing office on 1st Avenue working out for you? Or the yellow placards of resident support that tenants were supposed to put up at their windows? Marsh? Oh, hello. Marsh?

Anonymous said...

Has anyone living here recently or not noticed more sick kids, illness? Moved here 2015 and my kids were never this sick, nor was I. Could this be the mold problem! Getting check up on our flat - this cannot be normal.

StuyTown Wit..Dim, Half AND Nit said...

Little known fact: John Marsh was hungrily devouring the tasty, artisanal fare at FiveTurdCafe when the Department of Health inspectors came by to padlock the dump.
He protested, "What are you doing? This is the finest food I've ever tasted. Blackstone and Danny Boy G told me so. They highly recommended this place". "But, Sir," answered the inspector, "there are maggots crawling all over your Danish." "How can that be?", the incredulous Marsh replied. "They told me it was just cinnamon seasoning."
Whereupon, new TA Pres Susan Steinturd came in to the Café and said, "Forget about the rancid food. Let us concern ourselves with truly vital issues. What can we do about the scantily clad babes lounging on the Oval in tiny bikinis? The corruption, the immorality, the scandal!" "But it is December, Miss Steinturd." "I don't care", she huffed. "Morality and quality of life must be maintained. By the way have you paid your TA dues yet?" HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL AND KEEP CHUCKLING!

Anonymous said...

"Our disgraced TA led by John Marsh needlessly handed over our exclusive access to $2.7 Billion Fannie Mae purchase funding to major Wall Street/REBNY predator Blackstone in exchange for NOTHING benefitting any of their actual living, breathing PCVST neighbors/constituents, many of whom notwithstanding rent/income are financially distressed affording to remain in their PCVST homes. To justify their betrayal, our disgraced TA led by John Marsh conjured up a vague, futuristic, income capped, time limited, extremely lucky, lottery winning PCVST resident constituency lacking RS protection. It does not currently exist and may never exist. No vague, futuristic, lottery winning PCVST resident has ever paid one cent TA membership dues. It's a phantom constituency they betrayed us for."

Lest we forget how the STPCVTA betrayed the tenants of this project. This poster is quite right. Although, was Marsh at the helm when we were actually sold down the river by DG and the TA to Blackstone and Big Bird de Blasio?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Marsh was the helm for a long time, but may not have been once the property was handed over to Blackstone. He still remained, and remains, a valuable member of the TA.

Read this and don't forget most of the commentary! No love fest for Marsh.

https://town-village.com/2015/07/06/marsh-steps-down-from-st-pcv-ta/

Stuy Town Reporter said...

A thought: Is management's focus on the top lock of one's apartment dictated more by the Fire Department than anything else? It seems that management doesn't give much of a fuck about the other things that go on here, but top locks have taken a precedence.

Anonymous said...

Please say a prayer for me, STR. I am thinking evil, evil thoughts about what to do to ameliorate and/or retaliate against my upstairs neighbors. They party, they stomp, they bang, they drag their furniture around at all hours. They think running a vacuum at 9:30 on a Monday night is normal. They are completely inconsiderate, young, dumb and rude. They are women. I hate them with a passion. Thanks for reading this. I'm okay now.

Anonymous said...

I don't think John Marsh is a bad person in any way. He worked hard for the tenants when he was leading the TA and there is only so much a person can do, especially when the property is in the hands of robber barons who are in cahoots with sleazy politicians. The fact that he is still volunteering for TenantPac and an organization that seeks to keep seniors in their homes shows that he is a man of good intentions who cares about people. Let's think of the good things he has done, rather than what good he didn't manage to achieve. I certainly don't believe he did us any harm.

Anonymous said...

A few days before the closure I observed one of the workers (not the kids who work there) in the meat area handling meat without gloves. I was going to say something but didn't A couple of days later there he was again with only one glove on. I mentioned to the kid serving my coffee that he should say something to this guy about wearing gloves. He looked over but of course he wasn't going to go to a?? boss and tell him to put on gloves.

then the café was closed and this is one of the reasons, but when I asked one of the supervisors she told me the reason (singular) was that he wasn't wearing gloves.

And this guy is still working there!. What does it take to lose your job? If he didn't bother to put on gloves I doubt if he'd bother to wash his hands after using the bathroom. Stay far, far away from the prepared foods, especially the meat area.

Anonymous said...

Re: 11/30 - upstairs neighbors without carpets.

How about downstairs neighbors who smoke pot that comes up into my apartment and constantly slam doors within the apartment. Maddening. Have spoken to this girl a couple of times about both issues but the potheads seem to have sawdust in between their ears cannot understand the problem. Awakened last night around 2Am by this noisy pothead, called Security but don't know the outcome. As a last resort, you have to go to the 13th Pct. and report drugs in an apartment.
BTW: One reason Security doesn't want to get involved in the pot smokers is that Management could probably be held liable if the complaining tenant winds up in the hospital with respiratory issues and sues. Without verification the complaining tenant has nothing to stand on.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>I don't think John Marsh is a bad person in any way.<<

Incompetent is not bad.

Anonymous said...

>> A thought: Is management's focus on the top lock of one's apartment dictated more by the Fire Department than anything else? It seems that management doesn't give much of a fuck about the other things that go on here, but top locks have taken a precedence.

New management's stance against top locks is illegal. See this: http://codes.findlaw.com/ny/multiple-dwelling-law/mdw-sect-51-c.html

Stuy Town Reporter said...

It seems that as long as a duplicate top lock key is handed to management upon request, the use of the top lock is legal. But this is a legal opinion that is not the city's. The latest letter from management (Richard Hayduk CEO/General Manager) is confusing, as it arrives well after many duplicate keys have been surrendered. Then we have this: "Top Locks are not permitted..." Are they "permitted" or not? Not by the lease, if they are installed after the April 2016 date, but is management in the right?

Then, we have numerous violations by management itself, if we read the "Resident Help" on Stuy Town own website. As an example:

"Pathways and walkways are designed for safe passage of pedestrians. Bicycle riding, rollerblading, skate boarding, Segway transport, hover-boards, roller-skating, in-line skating or any such similar activity is permitted on pathways and walkways only if this activity doesn’t endanger or threaten pedestrians. Those engaged in said activity must traverse the pathways and walkways at low speeds. Bicycle riding is prohibited in all areas designated by signs posted by Landlord."

Is this rule adhered to???

Or this:

"e. Laundry carts are provided in the laundry rooms. These carts are to be used only in the laundry rooms and Tenant is prohibited from removing the laundry carts from the laundry rooms."

Management has indicated that they will simply replace the carts that are missing, no penalty involved.

Or this:

"A summary of guidelines is below although the Pet Rider contains all rules and regulations for dog ownership at PCVST.
a. All dogs shall be registered with the Landlord.
b. All dogs shall be leashed at all times unless permitted by Landlord (such as during an event allowing pets to run free in a contained environment).
c. The registration tag must be visibly hung from the lanyard as attached to the leash handle.
d. Tenants are strongly encouraged to have their dogs defecate only in designated dog areas and are required to pick-up, and clean any residual left by their dogs.
e. Tenants are not to allow their dogs to urinate or defecate on or in any Building.
f. Tenants are to honor the “No Dog” fenced areas; consult stuytown.com or property signage for designated dog areas, which are subject to change.
g. Tenants with pets who incessantly make noise are subject to the disciplinary terms found under Section 2 (Quiet Enjoyment).
h. Aggressive breeds and dogs with a combined weight of over 50 pounds per apartment will not be allowed to register. All registered pets are subject to New York statutes and rules regarding multi-family dwelling dog ownership."

The persistence of management to ignore some of these rules can be infuriating.

I am glad management wants to discipline tenants, but management is selecting, rather than enforcing. They know this, too.

Anonymous said...

Management cherry picks which "house rules" it will enforce and, of course, always opts for the easiest and least important rules to apply enforcement. Of course they are not going to crack down on the noisy student demographic, the dog shit offenders, the speeding bicycles and any other rules that the enforcement thereof will upset the demo they want. The older folk in the real RS, unrenovated apartments had better be on their guard not to put a doormat outside their door, to make sure the Stasi has a copy of their top lock key and had better be on their guard at all times because Management wants these tenants to give them a reason, any reason, to kick them out. Seniors, long time real rent stabilized tenants just watch your step or you will have Hitler on your doorstep. Students and ten-to-a-room millenials, relax, break out another keg and turn up the music and stamp your stilletos on the thin, veneered bare floors and give the old fart downstairs from you another sleepless night. I'm surprised Management doesn't reward you for every bodybag containing a senior you help to expedite out of here.

Booger Boy from Company B said...

I saw one of the servers at the FiveTurdCafe pick his nose and then handle the food without gloves on.
When I called him out on his disgustingly unsanitary behavior he got all huffy with me and said, "It's 'snot' any of your business".
More appropriate and truer words were never spoken.

Anonymous said...

Regardless of what management says, all tenants in STPCV (and virtually all other apartment buildings in the state of New York) are legally allowed to install top locks on their doors. This right is provided to us by the New York State Multiple Dwelling Law, for the security of our homes, and the landlord is not legally allowed to take it away from us.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Sec. 51-c. Rights of tenants to install and maintain locks in certain entrance doors.

Every tenant of a multiple dwelling, except a tenant of a multiple dwelling under the supervision and control of a municipal housing authority, occupied by him, except as a hotel or motel, or college or school dormitory, shall have the right to install and maintain or cause to be installed and maintained in the entrance door of his particular housing unit in such multiple dwelling, a lock, separate and apart from any lock installed and maintained by the owner of such multiple dwelling, not more than three inches in circumference, as an ordinary incident to his tenancy, provided that a duplicate key to such lock shall be supplied to the landlord or his agent upon his request; and every provision of any lease hereafter made or entered into which reserves or provides for the payment by such tenant of any additional rent, bonus, fee or other charge or any other thing of value for the right or privilege of installing and/or maintaining any such lock, shall be deemed to be void as against public policy and wholly unenforceable.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Management again:

"Top locks are not permitted..."

???

Anonymous said...

"... except a tenant of a multiple dwelling under the supervision and control of a municipal housing authority, occupied by him, except as a hotel or motel, or college or school dormitory ..."

These transients (temporary NYC shelter, short term corporate housing, extended stay hotel guests, students and post grads packed into chopped up dorms, etc.) comprise a substantial percentage of Blackstone's most profitable leaseholders. Since they may be legally prohibited from installing individual security locks, Blackstone is probably posting "rules" and incorporating restrictive language into leases hoping our decreasing percentage of legitimate "residents" living in "residential" dwellings utilized as a primary "residence" are ignorant about their legal right to install individual safety locks as a routine personal security measure and hence, fail to exercise their right to protect themselves, their families and their property inside their homes.

The massive amount of transients churning through apartments since Speyer are directly and indirectly causing crime to spike in what was once the safest community in NYC to settle down, plant roots, raise a family and enjoy a comfortable retirement. Now If anything, following a standard residential security precaution practiced by our neighbors in Alphabet City we should all be considering installation of multiple safety locks on our individual apartment doors.

This special place did not have to end like this. De Blasio, Garodnick and the TA Board needlessly killed Stuyvesant Town.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

The way I read it, residents of PCVST have a right to install top locks but give a duplicate key if it is requested, which it has been. No threats, please, or pounding at the door. For Blackstone management this is something that has to go back to the lawyer or lawyers, and changed or worded better.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

And I'm not even going to address, right now, composting!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

A classic over at the unofficial residents FACEBOOK, with a photo by Phil Nee:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10211185704899736&set=gm.1065523743575816&type=3&theater

I can't decide which one is better. Marsh's message on T&V or this photo?

Meshuganeh Mildred said...

Hubby, Jason, and Mildred, wifey, are headed over to the Five Turd Cafe for a Sunday morning snack.
"Mmmm, these pastries look delicious!"
"Wonder what those brown droppings on them are?"
"Must be the icing, dear!"
"Could be, hon, but how come they are moving?"
"Stop kvetching and eat up".
"OK, dear."

Fast forward one hour later: rumblings in the stomach, severe cramps...oh, oh.
"HASTEN, JASON, GET THE BASIN. TOO LATE. PLOP, PLOP. GET DA" MOP."

Anonymous said...

would like to post a building feedback. I"ll go first ---245 Avenue C and it's quite good re residents and peace. I won't comment on cleanliness or location, as it's not easy over here, but any decent families or respectful tenants want a good one, 245.

Responsible Dog Owner said...

Pile of dog shit in the laundry room at 277 Avenue C this morning.
UNBELIEVABLE!
Well, every cloud has its silver lining.
At least I don't have to walk over to the Five Oval Café for my morning croissant this morning.

Anonymous said...

12/3/16 re: upstairs neighbors:

Can you talk to them? If not, as one of my friends did, get out your phone and record the noise at all hours. At least you'll have something to give to management, legal, security.

this is the new normal. It's NOT going to change. Either take steps to alleviate your problem or think about moving, because you're going to have problems with whoever is above you if they don't follow the rules here and don't really care.

It's quality of life before a cheaper ret.

Anonymous said...

STUYTOWN AND PC KNOW THERE IS A NOISE PROBLEM WITHIN THE STRUCTURE OF THE BUILDINGS. T HEY KNOW AND WONT FIX IT, THEY DON'T CARE.

I JUST HEARD OUR NEIGHBORS HAVING SEX. THEY'RE GAY AND IT GOT REAL LOUD, I WOULD NOT MIND AND NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BUT THEIR ROOM IS SHARE WALL WITH MY 4 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER. I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW CLEAR AND LOUD IT WAS FOR HOURS.

Anonymous said...

430 East 20th - full of hipsters and loud music 24/7.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Any idea that management would attack the problems here with sincerity since the closure of Five Stuy Cafe is gone. Seen: Two, yes two, bicycles being ridden around the inside of the Oval path; numerous other violations, including no presence of our PS security outside. I predicted this "no change" would happen, and it has. These guys just don't care.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

And you want to compost???

Anonymous said...

2:55 - They will move out well before I do. I've lived here long enough (30+ years) to know it's only a temporary arrangement when people of a certain age room together. If past experience is any indication, they will be gone by spring. At least the previous 4 different sets of tenants were nice and made an effort when I asked them to be considerate. Not these creeps; they are entitled!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I have an idea: Why doesn't the TA get off its collective butt and DEMAND that management enforce the no-bike riding rule around the Oval? No composting, a strike if you will, until enforcement is seen. Is this too much to ask of the TA???

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Over at the non-official FACEBOOK for residents, I just learned that Neptune, the restaurant nearby on 1st Avenue, is closing. They (the folks who have the money and the connections) are killing us. Slowly, surely, the city is dying. But the high prices will be there. I see the young people taking out mom and dad's credit card to buy produce at Gracefully. BTW, wasn't Garodnick not willing to support small business?

Anonymous said...

I have no intention of recycling or composting until Management starts to actually manage and does something about the terrible conditions here. The recycling rooms are verminous, the grounds are unsafe because of bicycle and vehicular traffic and the indoors from the partying hipster/student/transient demo is at a level that causes illness from lack of sleep and frayed nerves. This place has become a filthy, dangerous, nasty hellhole and if that's the hallmark of Blackstone, then they should get out of the property business immediately and try their hand at something they are competent to do and do well.

Anonymous said...

4:10 PM I had a couple of pervs next door to me and I hated the sounds of their rutting,
I put a note under their door asking them to hold it down and they did.

Anonymous said...

why doesn't management rent carpets within the fucking shit apartments? they can charge tenants for them. Rinse repeat each new tenant. Why to, because our management wants no peace for tenants. tenants at peace would renew and they make more money when you, we do not renew.

Anonymous said...

The worst affected buildings should have their feet held to the fire. If you want to have parties 5 nights a week and disturb decent rent paying tenants, fuck you.

Anonymous said...

"The worst affected buildings should have their feet held to the fire. If you want to have parties 5 nights a week and disturb decent rent paying tenants, fuck you."

Damn right! So sick of these fucking jerks ruining the lives of everybody who needs their sleep and the quiet enjoyment of their apartments. We all pay rent, but Blackstone acts like it is only the party animals who do. Maybe some of them pay a lot of rent to live in their crowded spaces, but they do a lot of damage and strain the infrastructure much more than their normal tenant neighbors, who also pay rent!

Anonymous said...

Blackstone has been in charge here for about a year and the demographic has worsened. The TA needs to press them on their promises that this would be a family community. Of course they will not do that, as they are useless. I don't see any hope in turning this community around. As older residents pass away or move, there will be an ever increasing number of dorm, transient, and organization apartments. Real garbage is moving in here. I've got it next door in the form of some kind of ministry. I hate to sound pessimistic, but with a useless tenants association, there is not much we can do but move.

Anonymous said...

8:20 pm I think this is a deliberate strategy by Blackstone to make people move. They put in the neighbors from hell to live next door to them to harass them into moving out. I am going nowhere because I am not in a position to do so. Would that I could. But if they put shit next door to me, I will fight them tooth and nail. I have friends in the newspaper reporting business and I will call on them, if necessary, to document any harassment these bastards may send in my direction.

Anonymous said...

Another stupid "good neighbor notice" sent by e-mail and Blackstone calls this a multifamily community. It is actually a multistudent, multitransient dump. These good neighbor e-mails are an insult.

Anonymous said...

Another stupid "good neighbor notice" sent by e-mail and Blackstone calls this a multifamily community. It is actually a multistudent, multitransient dump. These good neighbor e-mails are an insult. ....

DAMN RIGHT! I WISH THEY WOULD TAKE THEIR STUPID EMAILS AND HOUSE RULES (THAT ARE NEVER ENFORCED) AND STICK UP THEIR ARSES!