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Sunday, January 15, 2017

Photos Around the "New" Playground

Playground 7 is supposed to become a "gym" playground for whatever tenants live around there, and another selling point for Blackstone. Meanwhile, STR headed to the playground to see what's up.

Seems as if PS rarely goes to the east end of the playground, nor does it encourage "good behavior." No surprise.

Top photo: These guys with their dogs hang out in the playground area, as well as outside Stuy Town, but nearby. You've seen them. Stuy Town dogs? You decide! Middle two photos: Says it all, the dog area and a PCVST cart. Lovely. Last photo: "Oh, my poor doggie couldn't hold it in and I didn't have any bags! What's it to you, anyway?"

(Photos can be made larger it you click on them.)




189 comments:

Anonymous said...

Is that huge mud patch a "dog friendly" area? OMG! Has this place ever gone down the sewer. We used to have so much grass and trees and it was such a healthy, pleasant place to live. I know it's winter and the grass is in winter mode, but that mud patch looks like nothing will ever grow there again, except maybe toxic bacteria. ST has been destroyed.

Anonymous said...

Yes, this place is a true "Sty".

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Seen not too long ago: Two, yes two, dogs being walked around the inside of the Oval where the path is, not for dogs obviously. But that is not all. The dog walker went in front of the guard booth, inside of which there was a PS guard! Think he stopped the walker and told her about the "rules"?.... No way.

Also seen, bicycle after bicycle ignoring the rule of no riding around the Oval.

This place is a disaster if measured by all the "rules" that are broken with frequency.

I really think that by now the intent of Blackstone, or at least the lower management, is to not make waves with tenants unless absolutely necessary and part of "show." Otherwise, they do not give a fuck.

If this would be reported, there would have to be a report, and therefore the breaking of the rules becomes official. If it is NOT reported, then everything is perfect. Case not even needing closure.

My Dog Just Took a Sh*t and I Didn't Pick Up said...

What ever happened to the "Blue Tags" for the tenants' dogs that had to registered with Stuy Town?
Another House Rule ignored.
Tell us, Rick.
Hahahaha...what a phony?!

Anonymous said...

"This place is a disaster if measured by all the "rules" that are broken with frequency."
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It's a joke. There's more and more rules posted on more and more signs everywhere. It seems we're being assaulted by signs spaced 10 feet apart throughout the property. Why doesn't Blackstone just post one sign - "NO RULES"

Anonymous said...

And Blackstone also needs to change those big signs at the entrances to the loops that say "Oasis" to "Sty". This is certainly no oasis.

Anonymous said...

I'll report this information to Garodnick's office as well as the TA. No way they will stand for this affront to the quality of life in the sty. After all, isn't this why we're all paying dues?

Anonymous said...

"What ever happened to the "Blue Tags" for the tenants' dogs that had to registered with Stuy Town?
Another House Rule ignored.
Tell us, Rick."

Good question actually. I was wondering that myself.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Blue tags? The rules? Vigilance?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

According to a poster on the TA Facebook a change at our favorite cafe--Five Stuy. New cook, new owner and a not-that-well cooked chicken and mashed potatoes.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

BTW, having seen this place many times, my prediction is that Five Stuy Cafe is not making ends meet unless Management wants them around and is willing to do some favors. The customers can be there, but they mostly like to sit and work, spending valuable time on their computer (free Wifi). Yeah, they will buy the drink and maybe some dessert, but that is not going to keep a place running. The above doesn't surprise me, including talk of the high prices. Better weather will help, but if I'm not mistaken they are closing earlier than expected. It's suppose to be open till 9pm everyday.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Before the cafes, the place was created by Tishman-Speyer to house a get-together place with chairs and a pool table. Remember? Also remember the mini-golf putting green that was near the current guard house?

The suits are always thinking and planning new ways to create Great Amenities!

Anonymous said...

was there a few nights ago and also closed early on self and daughter. depends on the rent they pay, if low, won't matter.

Rick goes there. He he.

Anonymous said...

"Tishman-Speyer to house a get-together place with chairs and a pool table. "

The “Kubrick Café”. TS promoted it as a “lounge” for the usual millennial demographic. Again, the current café is a commercial enterprise in violation of the NYC zoning law.

http://www1.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/zoning/zoning-maps/map12c.pdf

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Rick is probably asking Management to go there. LOL.

We should also be vigilant that the place does not get an alcohol license, which the cafe would love because of the high prices and the sale to people who want to get drunk right here in Stuy Town. There was immediate push back when it seemed to happen with the previous cafe. The idea is not dead. Believe me. Don't be surprised....

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>Again, the current café is a commercial enterprise in violation of the NYC zoning law.<

I assume the cafe does not check and that it is not just for "residents and their guests."

Anonymous said...


Who are the people who own and or are investors in that Oval Cafe? Are some of the tenants or corporate leaseholders or city leaseholders? Or the Tenant Association Foundation?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Rick and Blackstone will spin it for all it's worth. "Wine in Stuyvesant Town. Yes, you can now relax with a drink at Five Stuy Cafe. Come one, come all!"

Hershey Squirts said...

FiveTurdCafe...a losing business model...STR is totally spot on with his 8:52AM, Jan. 17th remarks.
Lots of people just sit and nurse a cup of tepid coffee for hours while using the free WIFI.
The more adventurous partake in their fecal, rodent-laden artisanal pastries or the ptomaine inducing "sandwiches".
SORRY but I can't finish this diatribe.
I think I'm getting the runs...must have been that OVERPRICED TASTY TREAT I ordered...only nine bucks for two slices of soggy bread and rancid chicken.
Oh, oh!
"Hasten, Jason, get the basin. Never mind. Plop, plop. Get da' map."
Hey, Rick, Board of Health been around lately?
HA HA HA

Anonymous said...

"I assume the cafe does not check and that it is not just for "residents and their guests."

Unlike the ice rink, there are no signs inside stating for "residents and their guests" and they deliver, EOS. BTW, I have never been checked the 3 times I ordered there.

Anonymous said...

Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrttttteeeeeeey!!!!!!!!!!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>Who are the people who own and or are investors in that Oval Cafe? Are some of the tenants or corporate leaseholders or city leaseholders? Or the Tenant Association Foundation?<

I think it's just a business with no ties to Management or the TA. I did a preliminary check, btw. I just think that Management would want them to succeed. Which is why I say that liquor license is important. We shall see!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrttttteeeeeeey!!!!!!!!!!<

I hear, though I haven't verified, that there are "ladies of the night" working here. In de Blasio's world anything goes, so I know pissing (the human kind) should be allowed wherever. I'm still waiting for the private massage parlors to open up in PCVST. I could use a good massage.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Speaking of these issues, who is replacing Our Man Dan? I dunno right now. I should check with the TA.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>Hey, Rick, Board of Health been around lately?<

Last I checked, which was yesterday, the answer is "not yet."

Anonymous said...

"Tishman-Speyer to house a get-together place with chairs and a pool table."
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Don't remember a pool table, but Speyer did originally try to market the location as a private party catered "event" space with wine or BYOB in plastic cups. I do recall (from photos posted online somewhere) the 1st event was a Speyer sponsored party and a some suits got into a fistfight requiring police response. That was the end of alcohol use permitted there and private parties never did catch on.

Back then this place still held true to the longstanding, healthy, family values culture it was world-renowned for, not yet the "Let's get drunk, make noise and vomit" transient dorm atmosphere cultivated by Speyer-CW-Blackstone. Why party "nowhere" when we can walk across the street to the genuine NYC social scene in East Village, LES, Murray Hill, Gramercy, Kips Bay, etc. Now since today's PIGSTY (formerly PCVST) demographic openly smokes marijuana with impunity, which management tolerates and the TA does not object to, getting drunk at the café is probably cool and should be profitable.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

That catered event was for brokers. I remember it well. PS was really out, and not just to break up the fight. They were there to keep us away, I think.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Which shows just what PS can do if there is an effort to do something. Nowadays, despite an avalanche of rules, forget about it!

Anonymous said...

Oval Cafe will absolutely 100% get a liquor license. Wait for it.

Anonymous said...

LOL my 9 year old in his room and the person next door neighbor sneezed. My child says 'bless you', the person said thank you. Clear as a bell.

Tommyboy said...

Meanwhile apparently the smarter of species quite literally cuts corners with their street ready vehicles as the photos illustrate. Not a peep there, in fact the numerous ruts within this complex is oh well? So blame the dogs while the workers here treat the residents as a nuisance toward their daily chores.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>Oval Cafe will absolutely 100% get a liquor license. Wait for it.<

"A nice glass of wine while you overlook the peaceful Oval. This is living!"

Anonymous said...

why are the playgrounds closed if there is snow, rain ?

Anonymous said...

Lawsuits?

Tommyboy said...

Finally more talk of the impending beer garden, happy hour can't get here fast enough.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

You may want to try "Maple," a new food delivery service that someone is shilling for on the TA Facebook page.

Anonymous said...

"why are the playgrounds closed if there is snow, rain ?"

The playgrounds have always been closed for rain, snow, for P&C liability issues.

Anonymous said...

Maple is a Trump family (in-law) business and out landlord is a Trump consultant.

"The startup ( Maple) was incubated by Thrive Capital, the New York City venture firm founded by Josh Kushner, brother of Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner."


Leaked documents from startup Maple show the brutal economics of food delivery
On average, the restaurant-in-an-app lost money on each meal in 2015.

http://www.recode.net/2016/12/23/14055132/maple-delivery-app-leaked-financial-documents


From Forbes Magazine

http://www.forbes.com/sites/antoinegara/2016/12/02/trump-taps-steve-schwarzman-jamie-dimon-and-mary-barra-for-advice-on-job-creation-growth/#7968f7ce2174


Trump Taps Steve Schwarzman, Jamie Dimon And Mary Barra For Advice On Job Creation, Growth


Anonymous said...

liability what? That's interesting since the manager apparently doesn't feel the bikes zipping through ST Pcv and golf carts driven by employees on sidewalks here or the motor bikes in stuytown are a liability. ?

Gee, I'm confused now.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

http://www.recode.net/2016/12/23/14055132/maple-delivery-app-leaked-financial-documents


Interesting....

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>liability what? That's interesting since the manager apparently doesn't feel the bikes zipping through ST Pcv and golf carts driven by employees on sidewalks here or the motor bikes in stuytown are a liability. ?<

When you read that, you realize, once again, that the rules here are bull.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

So the TA is promoting an anti-Trump rally (that is what it is, sorry for being blunt) but at the same time it is promoting, in a manner of speaking, Trump and his organization.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

This is like our soon departed Dan, who damns unaffordable housing, while rubbing elbows with everyone, and smiling, at the REBNY yearly dinner.

Anonymous said...

Actions speak louder than words.

Anonymous said...

oh my heavens, i don't need our TA, repeat TA rallying against trump or any other. lmao

Anonymous said...

Didn't I see Dan sitting on Rob Speyer's lap at the last Liars Ball?

Anonymous said...

I'm so glad somebody revealed that Maple is a Trump-related org! Now I most definitely will NOT order from there and will spread the word!

As to the liability considerations of Management, I think that by posting those dos and don'ts signs they inure themselves from liability.

Anonymous said...

More shit moving into 2 Oval. At least the public safety guy told the bro that he couldn't ;eave the outside door propped open. Churn, churn, churn.

Anonymous said...

Maple is hardly a start-up in the true sense of the word seeing as it has serious financial bank. Plus it is more like a hotel "room service" meal you use an app for if you were staying in a hotel which as we all know there are no hotels in PCV or in STV so why have a "room service app"?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2016/07/18/new-york-vc-thrive-captial-raises-700-million-for-fifth-fund/#357d5a8e27d4

Anonymous said...

Think they're gonna need a sign to OK the speeding motorized bikes then.

Anonymous said...

TA dues have risen to $50 per year (a bargain at any price of course). Please modify your remittances accordingly. Thanks in advance.


--TA Supporter

Anonymous said...

The TA has become nothing more than a mouthpiece for the commercial operations trying to convince tenants to spend their hard earned money. This property is more commercial than zoning allows and the TA is not operating as a tenant association is supposed to according to the Met Council on Housing.

http://metcouncilonhousing.org/help_and_answers/tenants_associations

Anonymous said...

Will most definitely not join the TA next time my membership fee comes up and I will write the reason why, they are a useless tool of management.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I thought it was Stuy Town for a moment:

https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/nycha-design-guide-public-housing

The money shot comes toward the end:

>NextGen NYCHA includes a proposal to lease some “underused” land in public housing complexes to developers to build mixed-income properties. The move has critics, but the added income could help address some of the agency’s capital needs.

>“Public housing has for ages sat sort of to the side of the debate and the investment and the conversation of affordable housing,” says Goddard. “We really have two systems: the private affordable, and the public affordable. And the public affordable has never been treated with the same degree as investment and respect as the private affordable housing side. I think this is a turn to say we have a hugely important affordable housing asset here in New York City.”<

Stuy Town Reporter said...

WARNING: This complex is NOISE. It can happen any time, and there is nothing you can do about it. "But we need to upgrade...."

Anonymous said...

January 18, 2017 at 10:52 AM the likelihood that the Mayor and his deputies already included an arrangement like that in the deal with the owners makes it a safe bet that your instincts are right in a portion of this property being used for a desperate administration to decrease the number of homeless in a re-election year. PCV has students living with seniors already in that concocted scenario by the current administration.

Anonymous said...

Tenants who are unhappy with their experience here should post on Yelp and attach a link to this blog. Then they will really get the truth about this place out to the world and save people from falling into this pit.

Anonymous said...

"Will most definitely not join the TA next time my membership fee comes up and I will write the reason why, they are a useless tool of management."

While it is always refreshing to hear from people who feel that doing the right thing is important (i.e. not being part of the problem), but seriously? When your fee comes up? Do you mean to say that you have been part of the problem up to this point? The moral imperative was to stop supporting the malevolence of the TA years ago! Look, I suppose better late than never but dang, TA support should have been withdrawn a long, long time ago.

Anonymous said...

January 16, 2017 at 10:29 AM

And they are of ASIAN descent. I've seen them in the AM!
Management knows EXACTLY what's going on here, and they could care less, and
neither do I. I give up.

Anonymous said...

how do you attach anything to yelp?

noticed all the signs around and happy they post the hazards, think they should post the carpet rule all over, all over the fucking floors.

Anonymous said...

6 peter cooper - doing a pickup dog walk,helping a friend too.

More shit moving in there too. day by day. Real losers with no regard for anyone else.

Anonymous said...

With a straight face, the Mayor keeps saying the middle class is being "priced out" but that is not at all true. Middle Class New Yorkers are being "pushed out" and pushed out by the Mayor and his crew.

Anonymous said...

Post all this crappy shit on yelp as well as Facebook.

Anonymous said...

"Post all this crappy shit on yelp as well as Facebook."

and Google and Yahoo Reviews.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

New posting in the elevators about noise issues. We will see if this works.

Of course, nothing about bicycles around the Oval, dog shit, golf carts speeding, etc.

But a start.


Anonymous said...

There is no sense in posting about this sty on social media. Families and regular folks aren't moving in here anyway. It is too expensive. They can continue to fill these apartment with student, hotel, ministry, and transient garbage. The above listed do not care about Yelp or facebook reviews.

Anonymous said...

What are new postings in elevators, as we have nothing. What do they say? Our elevators are all covered with blanket things due to non stop construction so no one could read any posting. Perhaps our ding dong not an einstein property managers should post on the FLOORS OF EACH BUILDING.

der.

Anonymous said...

I don't think anything "works" except enforcing the law. LAW, not "house rules."

Notice the caution to not engage with the neighbors who are making your home hellish. Notice the direction to call "public safety." This has been urged, verbally, by management and public safety, for years. It is wrong-headed for so many reasons.

Why are they now posting all of this garbage?

Living conditions will worsen until the caring populace wakes up and acts.

Anonymous said...

Regarding 2 Oval: who just moved in here? This place is full of strangers . . . all of it. This morning I saw some clueless, dressed-as-if-it's summertime, in their usual unflattering and sluttish costumes, dopey 20ish female pushing boxes full of personal belongings into the building across the street.

As I type this, I just heard moronic males shouting outside. Last weekend the shrieking idiots were out throughout the night and wee hours of the morning. Years ago, I pleaded with our Security people to shut them all the hell up. I explained that, as someone posted here recently, lack of sleep is a serious health (and perhaps life/death issue). I used to be informed that I was "unhappy," had "problems," was "too sensitive" and on and on.

It is good, at least, to finally be affirmed.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>What are new postings in elevators, as we have nothing.<<

A member of the TA Facebook (Thomas) posted a photo of it. I believe I can only link to the site, and not the particular post:


https://www.facebook.com/groups/stpcvta/

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Notice the caution to not engage with the neighbors who are making your home hellish.<<

Yeah, the advice is not to anything but call PS. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

Call ps? Call ps? why would I? That is a tactic just to ignore us, waste time, and ignore the problem.

Anonymous said...

2 oval is the worst building. Lived there in 2013. Could not pay me to be there.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Call ps? Call ps? why would I? That is a tactic just to ignore us, waste time, and ignore the problem.<<

(PS coming after half an hour and three calls): "Sir, what seems to be the problem. I don't hear anything."

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I think calling PS is good advice if: "Sir, I've fallen and I can't get up!" "Sir, there is a man with a hatchet at my door!"

But otherwise, you are made to feel as if you are bothering them, big time.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

How about? Management to residents: "We are installing carpeting, per your lease, in all new apartments. We are also going door to door to make sure you are not in violation of your lease regarding carpeting." Case closed!!! Problem solved!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Of course, Management will have to "rework" the official PCVST website--which shows that it is in violation of the carpeting rule.

Tommyboy said...

Slow biking with a headlight is permitted? (Per signage)
Not all leases include 80% carpeting
Public Service takes their sweet a** time to respond to complaints in hopes it disappears upon arrival
Is the 5 Stuy cafe subsidized to be offered as a amenity or is it an actual business
Does anyone actually belong to the Oval Study?
The holiday decorations were nice!

Anonymous said...

Heard that all new tenants are getting sound machines with new lease. at least they're addressing this big problem here.

Anonymous said...

January 18, 2017 at 7:19 PM

They forgot to mention on those new elevator signs, " No Pot Smoking!"
Everything that is listing on that sign is exactly what is out of control in this dump! DUMP! Imagine a new market rate tenant looking to move in to this place and seeing these signs?

Anonymous said...

If you want the noise problem addresses it is better to call 311 to report a noise complaint than calling StuyTown Campus Public Safety who is failing you in effectiveness to handle noise complaints. If your campus security can't handle noise complaints how can they be expected to handle more dangerous situations? Safety is a real and serious issue for landlord's to make sure is addressed at all levels of big and small offenses.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I think, though I don't know for sure, that PS has priority list that has their security go to situations that are serious and then less then serious, of which noise complaints are one.

BIGMO said...

There are a few reasons why noise travels so easily from one apartment to another. Lack of carpeting is one of them but also lack of furniture and window drapes which both help to absorb sound. Many of these 'transient' tenants have minimal furniture and lack any kind of window coverings other than the standard roller shades.

It seems like management can enforce the carpeting rule quite easily with inspections like Metlife did for years. Imagine how many calls regarding noise complaints to PS would be reduced by having all the apartments carpeted like they should be. This is a big waste of time for PS and the tenants.

Those dedicated dorm apartments should already be carpeted by management. They can use the same crappy carpeting in the hallways for the apartments; it's better than nothing.

I think those tenants who have recurring noise complaints should get together and THREATEN MANAGEMENT WITH A LAWSUIT if they are unwilling to enforce their own lease regulation regarding the '80% carpeting rule.'

Also imagine the bad publicity if hit with such a lawsuit.

C'mon Blackstone do the right thing. Posting signs about proper tenant behavior is useless unless followed up with enforcement.

This isn't complicated unless you want it to be. Mandate carpeting and do carpet inspections!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Does anyone actually belong to the Oval Study?<<

Oval Study is used a lot by students who need to study without the distraction of their roommates. A few older tenants use it, too. What Oval Study does not need is the books that line the walls. Totally useless and probably gotten at some bulk sale, but mentioned all the time in Management's promotion.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Posted by Carol at the TA Facebook:

>>Today I watched as a young woman walked away from the substantial pile of dog excrement that her beautiful dog had just deposited on the walkway near the oval. I called to her to advise her that her pet had pooped...to no avail. I tried again, calling to her about the dog poop she had left behind where we all live...no response. That poor dog, beautiful dog, is owned or walked by a selfish, lazy, obnoxious person who cares not about anything but herself. Pitiful!! I just had to tell someone!<<

This post has gotten a lot of comments, all, btw, siding or agreeing with the original poster. Something Management and PS should take into consideration.

Anonymous said...

hate the dogs, hate the mess but in all fairness, it's a super large property, what do you want the fuckers to do. walk around and give citations all over. ? how many men for that? who will pay for that? the dogs are here to stay. break your leases, i am.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>C'mon Blackstone do the right thing. Posting signs about proper tenant behavior is useless unless followed up with enforcement.

This isn't complicated unless you want it to be. Mandate carpeting and do carpet inspections!<<

That seems to be a partial solution. Yes...

Anonymous said...

people do call 311, to no avail. only way to get results, sue your neighbor. and many do, with success.

Anonymous said...

YES YES YES BUY US ALL SOUND MACHINES!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

And, again, a good lawyer can decimate Management. All he or she will have to do is look at the official website for this property.

Anonymous said...

Yes . . . lawsuits . . class action, large law suits. Although, I believe that Blackstone, as do all large corporate entities, has lots of expensive human suits (read: "lawyers") to make it (us) go away.

The signs and the verbal advice about not talking to other people is for the most part bogus. Among other considerations: the Constitution's First Amendment.

Years back, another pernicious entity, one which often successfully destroys human lives, sent me a paper, "legal" document in which I was asked to formally sign away my Constitutional rights.

THIS is the human-created mess. We ALL need to rise up against this unnecessary misery.

Anonymous said...

I wish a brave consumer or health concerns reporter would do an expose on this dump, e.g., invite tenants to talk about their experiences with "PS" and noisy neighbors. As lack of sleep is most definitely a real threat to health and safety, it's a topic that would be in the public interest and would shame Blackstone at the same time. Imagine being an ER nurse and have to report to work after 2 hours sleep courtesy of the frat house upstairs? Or a truck driver, bus driver, ambulance driver, pilot? There's an endless list of occupations that require a decent night's sleep in order not to endanger the health and safety of the employee and the public at large!

I think Big Mo has the right idea: put in wall-to-wall carpeting in the dorm and transient apartments and make sure that when renting to real tenants (which they don't do much of these days), follow up with carpet inspections.

Anonymous said...

Seriously dont think anyone needs to buy curtains to fix this problem the landlord should be fixing. Many families are paying 4k to 5k to live here. if word gets out this place is sunk, shit going on here you cannot imagine.

Anonymous said...

I have to laugh at those stupid signs that Blackstone put in our elevators: Caring goes a long way." Maybe they should care more about what a dump the sty is becoming. Maybe they should care about the garbage that is moving in here and maybe they should care about rules being enforced.

Anonymous said...

It's in Blackston'es best interest to not handle or correct issues of stuytown peter cooper. It's in their interest to have unhappy customers that move out, often and always. Their words. Theirs.

Anonymous said...

Some apartment buildings require a carpet deposit when the tenents move in. Management gives the tenents X number of weeks to get carpeting. There is an inspection of the apartment & , if the people have carpeting, they get their deposit back. Problem solved!!! Easy!!!! Noise is a major problem here & management MUST address it. Not by posting signs!!! Stop with the signs & be proactive. We are suffering. Many new tenents are totally inconsiderate & self absorbed. It's not only students who are noisy. There are plenty of families who are also guilty. They don't care - even when PS & management are involved. Sad but true. Why were large families able to live here for decades & there were hardly, if any, complaints about noise ???? Because management enforced the rules!!!!! Think about that. Something is wrong with the way things are being run in regard to noise. I must add, PS has been responsive, polite, courteous & helpful. My neighbors & child, need to follow suite!!!!!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Lack of carpeting is one of them but also lack of furniture and window drapes which both help to absorb sound.<<

I agree, but gone are the days when a tenant has furniture and window drapes. The old timers can still have them, and some folks who move in, but generally that is not the "new" look people are going for.

Anonymous said...

"Heard that all new tenants are getting sound machines with new lease. at least they're addressing this big problem here."

If that is true, then they are acknowledging the reality that this is an unhealthily noisy place to live and not the "oasis" they deceitfully claim it to be. Their underhanded duplicity may very well be admissable in court.

Anonymous said...

"hate the dogs, hate the mess but in all fairness, it's a super large property, what do you want the fuckers to do. walk around and give citations all over. ? "

THE DOGS SHIT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE FUCKERS AND THEY DO NOTHING!! CAMPUS COPS ARE USELESS BECAUSE THEY HAVE HAD MANAGEMENT (IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT) CUT THEIR BALLS OFF!

Anonymous said...

I lived for several years in an apartment in the Fordham area of the Bronx. We had no carpets and neither did the upstairs neighbors. There was no problem with noise because the building, even though something of a tenement at the time, was built in the days when builders put in really strong, thick floors. Believe me (as Donald Trump would say) the neighbors were not quiet. Far from it,but there was no sound of footsteps overhead and our neighbors did not hear us. I don't think that Blackstone and all of the prior owners since MetLife have taken into account that these buildings in PCV and ST were pretty much thrown up post WWII and there was a shortage of building materials. The floors were not "floated" and there is just a thin layer of concrete and wood between floors. I am surprised that there has not been a collapse of a floor considering how they are constantly stripped and refinished as the apartments churn.

Management likes to advertise showing the sexy, shiny wooden floors and then, paradoxically, advises tenants that the house rules require carpeting. I think they should put in a "nudge nudge, wink wink" when they say that.

We are not dealing with honest (or even very intelligent) people when we are dealing with Blackstone.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>"Heard that all new tenants are getting sound machines with new lease. at least they're addressing this big problem here."<<

I think this is a joke. Say what???

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Taking a walk to the Union Square area yesterday by the side streets, I noticed a number of unpicked dog turds here and there. Either the dog population has increased or some dog owners just do not care.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

According to the "rules" posted in every elevator, we will be getting a noise-free environment because we are good neighbors. I'm game with that. So I will be listening for noise via lack of carpeting (already happening; I can hear the temporary click-click of high heels above me), no noisy tenants, slamming doors, etc. (has been good even before this effort, at least for me; your experience may vary), AND no noise during the quiet hours, which are weekdays 11pm to 7am and weekends 12am to 9am. What is interesting is the weekend 9am.... I assume this includes PCVST workers??? I will be monitoring!

Anonymous said...

partner & I lived downtown before this. Shoddily built also, plenty of noise from outside but barely much from neighboring walls so it seems a combo of things here. stop freaking stripping the floors dumbasses.

Anonymous said...

We are not dealing with honest (or even very intelligent) people when we are dealing with Blackstone.

January 19, 2017 at 10:46 PM

City Politicians too. The speech by City Hall at the protest last night was nothing more than peddling lies. It the Mayor believed his words he would not have done to Stuyvesant Town Peter Cooper Village what he and his staff did to this decimated community and the west village with St Vincents,and LICH and Rivington. The Mayors speech was all about him promoting himself just showing the democrats have not learned anything from the loss last November.

Bowling Ball Bertha said...

FLASH!! BLACKSTONE ANNOUNCES BOWLING CENTER AS NEW AMENITY!!!
And it is located in the apartment above me.
What is this about??
At all hours of the night, I hear a crashing noise from the apartment above me.
It sounds like a bowling bowl is being dropped on the floor?!
WTF is going on?
I called PS, they hear nothing and leave. As soon as they go BOOM!
Forget talking to the clods upstairs or calling PS for the 9th time.
I'm seriously considering going upstairs with a baseball bat and gently...or not so gently..."tap" on their door.
What vile, inconsiderate assholes.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

So.... there are small, but noticeable, dog turds near "The Ice"; the tree pruners are in action; two new apartment "upgrades" that can I plainly hear; no PS around: What else is new? Face it, this place, though it has its charms, can be a disaster.

And you know what? There is nothing you can do about it.

Anonymous said...

The "rules" are pure BS. No where is this more evident than 310 First Avenue. Smokers gather right in the doorway virtually all day long. It is so bad that one tenant had organized a law suit but then moved out (to battery park city) right in the middle dashing any hope that anything will ever be done about it. It is so bad one has to walk around to the other entrance to get in. The plantings are all dead in that area. I would say I can't understand how those on the main floor can stand it except they are some of the worst culprits. Rick Heyduk and his staff are all talk and no action.

Anonymous said...

"nd you know what? There is nothing you can do about it."

Then end your blog.

Anonymous said...

"And you know what? There is nothing you can do about it."

True. It is a slum/dorm and it is only going to get worse. Blackstone has an national and international reputation for buying housing in bulk and squeezing the last drop of blood out of the tenants while, at the same time, converting the property into miserable slums.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Then end your blog.<<

Unless I'm dead, seriously incapacitated, or have won lotto and have decided to move to a better place--ain't going to happen.

T&V help me make my decision. More later.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

On the way to eat lunch at Gracefully (without my parents' credit card; their lunch is doable), I came across more dog turds and a dog turd that has been around for at least two days and not reported or picked up by the staff. This is Blackstone now. Dog turds.

Also a lot of bicycles riding around the Oval. Despite the signs. Another feather in Blackstone's cap.

When is the tenants TA going to call Blackstone and its rep (Rick) on this? And no more BS, please.

Anonymous said...

NOOOOO DO NOT END BLOG. WHO SAID THAT? Bet we know!

Anonymous said...

To the bowling ball poster - take your iPhone, get a go pro - blast really loud annoying music on the ceiling at all hours when those losers are sleeping. they'll get the hint. the Ceiling to floor is so thin, they'll be able to feel and hear it! LMFAO

Anonymous said...

Thank you Bam and Thank you Chuckie:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/obama-co-op-affordable-housing-deal-nyc-article-1.2948969

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Okay. Finally a PS guard was in the guardhouse. Give him about 10 minutes, maybe more. One bicycle goes around the other way, one bicycle decides to walk it by the guardhouse. A delivery person on a bike goes by and the PS guard ignores or doesn't see this. The delivery guy is lost, so he returns on his bike. Meanwhile the PS guard's duty seems to be over, so he exits the guardhouse and walks almost into the delivery guy on the bicycle. The PS guard says something, but guess what? The delivery guy notices him, of course, but ignores what he says and continues on his way, leaving the PS guard just scratching his head.

I've seen something like this numerous times.

Anonymous said...

"When is the tenants TA going to call Blackstone and its rep (Rick) on this? And no more BS, please."

This will happen when a Satmar Rebbe eats a bacon sandwich at the Pope's wedding. In other words, don't hold ya breath!

Anonymous said...

I cannot wait to move outta this place. Yes, "outta" this place, you people call "home."

Anonymous said...

"Unless I'm dead, seriously incapacitated, or have won lotto and have decided to move to a better place--ain't going to happen.

T&V help me make my decision. More later."

When I say this I mean it: THANK GOD!!

Anonymous said...

"The "rules" are pure BS. No where is this more evident than 310 First Avenue."

I live in PCV and can attest that this is true. I walk across playground 1 in ST multiple times every day and it seems that every time I go by that building there is this ominous looking guy lurking in the doorway smoking. I could never live in that building. I would never let my children out of my sight.

Anonymous said...

ask management to install speed bumps @ the very least for speeding bikes.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why people would complain about dog shit. Doesn't this place allow dogs? Newsflash: Dogs shit. Dogs piss.

Anonymous said...

January 20, 2017 at 1:34 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/obama-co-op-affordable-housing-deal-nyc-article-1.2948969

Thanks for what? When they had the opportunity to keep this successful community together a la Penn South the politicians chose to tear StuyTown apart for their developer pals.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>I don't understand why people would complain about dog shit. Doesn't this place allow dogs? Newsflash: Dogs shit. Dogs piss.<<

This place allowing dogs is one of its worst mistakes. For the almighty dollar and nothing else.

As to the rest: Clean up after your dog. I think most of the protests are about 1) not cleaning up after your dog, and 2) having a dog that is over the weight limit or banned as a breed.

Thank you, Blackstone.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

BTW, by now (or tomorrow) if you live in the building I do, you should be getting a letter informing you of a request by your dear landlord for a MCI increase. It's small change, but it builds up. For "Hot Water Heaters"!

Anonymous said...

"This place allowing dogs is one of its worst mistakes."

I will accept your premise that it was a "mistake" for the purpose of this discussion. However, what does that have to do with said "mistake" being made (i.e. Stytown allows dogs)?. Since dogs are allowed in the sty, and since dogs shit and piss, why are people so surprised to see shit and piss? Was the expectation that everyone would pick up after their dog? Was the expectation that dogs never have diarrhea and would never leave shit stains? Was the expectation that dog owners would, somehow, pick up their dog's piss? If so, then perhaps the problem is really with the residents of the sty who maintain these assumptions.

Anonymous said...

Why are we being charged an MCI for Hot Water Heaters? How is this a Major Capital Improvement? Hot Water Heaters are a requirement and it's not like we are upgrading from cold water flats! Fucking bullshitters!

Anonymous said...

"Then end your blog."

Wouldn't you love that, TA Prowler!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Since dogs are allowed in the sty, and since dogs shit and piss, why are people so surprised to see shit and piss?<<

I don't quite get your point. Yes, dogs piss and shit, just like we do, but all people are asking is to pick up after your dog if it's shitting, and not have dogs that are banned, because of weight or breed. What is wrong with that???

Anonymous said...

Hey, folks: "Curb your dog" means that the dog poops and pees in the gutter. When did everyone forget this?

Barry Shapiro said...

That people need to pick up after their dogs is a given. The fact that this is the law seems to mean very little here. The only thing that seems to mean anything is that management itself supports this law. (We live in a world here where the only laws that count are those that management supports...and many times that doesn't mean much because enforcement is so weak or nonexistent.)

My position has been and still is that the law 161.03 needs to be followed. The fact that the DOT is too wimpy to support its own rules is just political and shameful.

Originally I had suggested to Hayduk that the fencing be pulled back everywhere...six inches or slightly more. The dogs gravitate to the sides anyway and this would keep most of feces and piss off the sidewalks. (And of course, people need to pick up after the dogs.)

Hayduk thought this was a good idea but implemented it in such a limited way that it had little effect. In addition I told him about the lack of guard attention at the 22nd St entrance to PCV...that the guard was always facing the wrong way and outsiders were coming in with impunity. After writing to him 2x about this, being assured this would be addressed and seeing it not addressed, I came to the conclusion that mgt intended to do little or nothing other than cater to all dog owners.

I then went to the DOT to clarify code 161.03 in order to get their help to leverage a compromise and get the fencing pulled back. And/or create small enclaves near entrances where dogs could do their business.

The DOT clearly, strong affirmed that 161.03 did indeed apply to private property and then immediately wimped out from enforcing it. So that at this moment, it appears a compromise is not on the horizon.

There is so much land here, so many possibilities to get the dogs off the sidewalks, outside of mgt having to invest some effort in adjusting, there seems no reason why something can't be worked out so that the dogs do their stuff off the sidewalks in areas that are entirely easy and convenient for the dog owners.

I mentioned to the DOT's lawyer that he would be going up against Blackstone. Apparently, Blackstone had its effect.

Anonymous said...

Hey, STR, remember that some "humans" shit and piss on the grounds and, sometimes, in the stairwells. Not vagrants who are trespassing, but bros who live here in StyStenchDorm.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>I mentioned to the DOT's lawyer that he would be going up against Blackstone. Apparently, Blackstone had its effect.<<

Thanks for trying. My contention is that Blackstone considers most things "theirs." If you notice, the police and traffic enforcement agents from the city are not stepping into this property. Everything seems done by PS, if and when Management decides something. "We bought this and now we own it."

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Of course, if we had a real TA.... And when is that notice about have a happy new year and pay us your dues going to disappear? Next year?

Anonymous said...

I am so glad the pet policy does not apply to my Mom's cat anymore. She and her pet have been quietly getting old together for at least the last 20 years. They are blessed and so am I.

Barry Shapiro said...

I've spoken to people DSNY, DOT and NYPD about dogs and bikes. All have told me that they don't have the authority to send their people onto private property...although no one seems to know why.

I'll do some digging but I suspect the reason is the 4th amendment of the constitution which requires reasonable cause or a warrant for the gov't to go onto private property.

An argument could be made for a general warrant or even reasonable (though not immediate) cause...but who's really going to bother unless someone within city gov't is ready to make a stink over it.

I do think eventually something will have to be done about the bikes, DOT stats show that in the past 5 years there have been 4 pedestrian fatalities resulting from biker crashes, 2 in Manhattan, 1 in Brooklyn, 1 in Queens. And many non-fatal accidents. According to my analysis, our district (council district 4) has more such crashes than any other in Manhattan with the possible exception of the district that contains Central Park.

According to Ben Kallos (5th district), he and Garodnick have just sponsored a program to apprise deliverymen of the law (although who follows the law in STPCV?).
Seems to me that Kallos is more carrying the ball on this one.


I do think that something will have to be done about the bikes.

Anonymous said...

January 20, 2017 at 9:22 PM Thank you for going to the DOT for the tenant's and our dogs best interests. You have a good idea that serves us all well. It is too bad the DOT Commissioner is:

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20170116/POLITICS/170119913

A guide to the Schumerverse
Former staffers for the nation's new top Democrat radiate throughout NYC's business and political world
Rosa Goldensohn By Rosa Goldensohn



Top 3 "contributor" to Senator (D - NY)

https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00001093

Top 5 Contributors, 2011 - 2016, Campaign Cmte
Contributor Total Indivs PACs

Paul, Weiss et al $155,850 $155,850 $0

NorPAC $123,768 $120,368 $3,400

Blackstone Group $120,000 $108,500 $11,500

Lockheed Martin $103,950 $93,950 $10,000

Lazard Ltd $100,250 $100,250 $0


https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2012&cid=N00001093

Anonymous said...

285 avenue c - looking to move out of our horrific noisy smoke pot and cigar filled peter cooper into 285, doe anyone know or can say if this is a good decent, quiet building? thank you.

Anonymous said...

is there any reason one would not purchase carpets? are the residents so poor that they possibly cannot afford them? we should discuss. perhaps they're section 8 or living paycheck to paycheck and have no money.

Barry Shapiro said...

Correction. I was in touch with DHMH over the dog issues, the DOT and NYPD over bike issues. It was Mary Bassett & the DHMH that ducked its own rules. (Writing too late at night.)

Anonymous said...

Wayne Barrett, the muckraking Village Voice columnist who carved out a four-decade career tilting at developers, landlords and politicians, among them Donald J. Trump and Rudolph W. Giuliani, died on Thursday in Manhattan. He was 71.

His wife, Fran Barrett, said the cause was complications of interstitial lung disease. Mr. Barrett himself had called his condition ironic, noting that he had never been a drinker or a smoker.

...he exposed the misdeeds that ensnared appointees and supporters of Mayor Edward I. Koch — a trail of serial corruption that he recapitulated in 1988 in “City for Sale: Ed Koch and the Betrayal of New York,” a much-praised book written with his mentor and fellow Voice mainstay Jack Newfield.

A 1992 book, “Trump: The Deals and the Downfall,” was, as Mr. Barrett acknowledged, a flop at first. Thanks to his subject’s improbable political ascent 25 years later, it was successfully republished and expanded in 2016 as “Trump: The Greatest Show on Earth: The Deals, the Downfall, the Reinvention.”

*

Mr. Barrett was once asked to explain to students at his son’s elementary school just what raking muck actually meant in terms of a day-to-day job. To appear in character, he put on a trench coat, pulled up the collar, withdrew a pad from his pocket and defined that special breed of investigative journalist this way: “We are detectives for the people.”


He added, “There is also no other job where you get paid to tell the truth.”

Anonymous said...

He spent his life fighting against New York corruption.

Rest in Peace Good Man.

"In Brooklyn, Mr. Barrett started a neighborhood newspaper that railed against irresponsible landlords and rampant drug dealing, which he maintained was being ignored by the police.

“Wayne was the conscience of New York,” Mr. Cuomo said in a statement on Thursday. “Wayne was never afraid to speak truth to power, and those who listened were the better for it.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/business/media/wayne-barrett-dead-village-voice-columnist.html?referer=

Anonymous said...

RIP Wayne Barrett. There has never been a time when we have needed you and brave writers like you as much as we need you now. We can only hope that you inspired younger writers to emulate your honest, bravery and skills. You will be very much missed.

Anonymous said...

8:32, there are no decent buildings anymore. They are all infested with students, transients, and ministries. I think that they are putting in groups in coordination with the city. Someone else, maybe the city is paying the rent. They have thought of a lot of creative ways to fill these dumps and there is nothing we can do about it.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how much the City pays Blackstone to house ministries and homeless folk? I hope they take all the necessary precautions regarding bedbugs, parolees who might be violent, substance abusers and pedophiles. Leave it to DeBlasio and he would think it was his saintly duty to put those people in among us and not let us know. Everybody deserves and is entitled to a roof over their head and a pillow to lay their head on, but there has to be some kind of vetting in order to protect the community and, maybe, vulnerable people. Still a lot of elderly people living here, as well as a lot of families with very young kids. We need to know what kind of folk are being billeted here.

So hard to believe that there used to be a years long waiting list to get in here and MetLife thoroughly checked out every new tenant. We had no crime, even though we were on the edge of the biggest drug-blighted neighborhood on the planet and we slept well at nights without having to listen to clicking high heels, sofas and ikea beds being readied for the night and there were no braying bros and woo hoo girls lurching drunkenly and puking their way home. We should all get a rent decrease for putting up with that shit.

Anonymous said...

Inquiring on 430 eas 20th - dirty, loud , who lives there,

I Can't Take It Anymore said...

Saturday evening in Stuy Town:
Clackety clack of heels, shrieks from the apartments above, furniture being moved at all hours, loud thumping music...love those speakers...NOT, vomit outside the front door, pot smoke wafting through the air, dog turd and urine in the stairwell, bags of garbage left OUTSIDE the carriage room door, and last but not least...two minutes of orgasmic moaning at 3:10AM. Hey, guy, can't you last longer than that?......Hahahaha

Anonymous said...

The "ministry" or whatever next door to me is populated by elderly ladies, not a safety issue. On the other hand, they have already had an infestation of something. The ST cleaning service was in there taking out big green trash bags last week. No name on the door, they get no packages, and the name downstairs has nothing to do with them. Different people coming in and out. I would imagine that the city pays Blackstone full market rate rent. Otherwise they would not accept the arrangement. I agree that everyone needs a home, but sanitation issues brought in by such groups is concerning.

Anonymous said...

for the love of God, why don't we post the buildings numbers on these safety, security issues? people should know that there are bedbugs in their building, or worse.

what are you afraid of, you do not need to put the apartment number.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>RIP Wayne Barrett.<<

Same here. RIP Mr. Barrett.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Of course, outside, I noticed "several" dog droppings not picked up or poorly picked up. This doggie doo-doo is now so frequent that if you see none in your travels about this complex, something is wrong! Speeding bicycles around the Oval, too. No PS officer is sight.

Anonymous said...

Is it a fact that some homeless are being housed in STPCV? (I'm not asking in support or opposition to this. I just want to know if it's a fact.)

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Another new controversy at the TA Facebook: Cell phone towers. Apparently Management is putting them on top of buildings (one so far in Peter Cooper). May be cancer causing or at least contribute to the plethora of possible cancer causing devices. Does Management care? Oh, they will give you the spin that it's nothing to be worried about.

I am old-school, so I only recently acquired a basic cell phone, which I rarely use, leaving it home most of the time. I look with smiling amazement at the usually young girls who MUST have their cell phones.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>for the love of God, why don't we post the buildings numbers on these safety, security issues?<<

I see no problem with posting building numbers.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Is it a fact that some homeless are being housed in STPCV? (I'm not asking in support or opposition to this. I just want to know if it's a fact.)<<

Some of our tenants do look homeless, but are not. LOL.

Realistically, I still need to see the facts on this one.

Anonymous said...

Facts on these groups living here make no difference. I presented a bunch of observations to management and the rep said point blank "IT is not a ministry." All she was concerned about was if they presented a noise issue, which there is not. They never followed up when I mentioned bedbugs after I observed a big cleaning going on. Posting building numbers also makes no difference. Blackstone will continue to deny these creative ways they are filling apartments. With a useless TA, there is nothing to be done.

Anonymous said...

January 22, 2017 at 9:50 AM Cell phone towers on residence homes for what? To control and track where the call pings? To track who is calling? To get and track citizens private information? What government official approved this installation on top of residential private homes?

Anonymous said...

tenants have no balls here, they should fight this shit, literally. what about the overcharges? the coward tenants won't even post the building #, yet they complain

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>tenants have no balls here, they should fight this shit,<<

I asked for something very simple: Management wants tenants to do composting. Why not first demand that one of the issues, like bike riding around the Oval (which is a no-no from Management itself), be dealt with? No response from the TA.

Anonymous said...

When you have a useless TA that is tied up and cozy with management, there is little that you can do to fight the landlords who have lawyers up to their ears and know just how to cover their tracks. The TA should be checking this lottery system and many other issues. When I contacted the TA about an issue they immediately referred me to security and management.

Anonymous said...

We do not have a TA. The TA is a money-raising shell. There is no action, no accountability and no reason whatsoever to even think of joining this fake organization. It's an extension of management and a prop for the politicians who want our votes.

Anonymous said...

composting was more important to management than safety.

Anonymous said...

You post a building dude to warn others. That others are not subjected to this vile behavior from neighboring tenants. Duh. How about ya help someone else before they move in?

Tommyboy said...

Curb your dog is a sign not a law. Standing in the street walking your dog is about as stupid as you can get. Ignorance is bliss

Barry Shapiro said...


This is what was unanimously passed (but not enforced) by the Board of Health.

"RESOLVED, that subdivision (a) of section 161.03 of Article 161 of the New York City Health Code, set forth in Title 24 of the Rules of the City of New York, be amended, to be printed together with explanatory notes to read as follows:

§161.03 Control of dogs and other animals to prevent nuisance.
(a) A person who owns, possesses or controls a dog, cat or other animal shall not permit the animal to commit a nuisance on a sidewalk of any public place, on a floor, wall, stairway, sidewalk, lawn, garden or roof of any public or private premises used in common by the public, or on a fence, wall [or], stairway or entranceway of a building abutting on a public place.

Notes: Subdivision (a) was amended by resolution adopted XXX to clarify the applicability of this section to sidewalks, lawns, gardens or other areas of private premises that are open to the public."

I hear Hayduk's concerns particularly about the elderly but see no good reason why the fences can't be pulled back in more areas and small, convenient enclaves created where the dogs could go.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

There has to be a way for Blackstone to get around this. It is a matter of definition? Nuisance?

Anonymous said...

310 First Avenue smokers out in full force today right under the awning blocking the entrance AGAIN! Security guard walked right by.

Anonymous said...

Ask Rick about the overcharges! HA

Barry Shapiro said...

STR...Legally or logically get around 161.03? I don't think so. But DHMH counsel Tom Merrill spoke to Rick Hayduk. I can only imagine that Hayduk said a lot of dog owners here are elderly (which is true). Curbing might be hard and dangerous for them, and mgt makes every effort to clean up and disinfect any reported dog messes. And as a matter of personal judgment, Merrill must have said...okay then...slide.

I saw how Merrill and the Board operate. I don't believe they have any understanding whatsoever about what the sheer concentration of people looks like here or appreciate how many very young kids use these sidewalks for everything including play.

Again, I'm sure a good practical compromise could be designed and implemented that gets the stuff off the sidewalks for the most part and is convenient for dog owners. If there are 1300 licensed dogs here, about 13% of the units. Well, what about the other 87%? I think most people would say that dog ownership here is okay if mgt allows it. Ownership is consistent with state and city law. However, I don't believe most people here would say that the sidewalks are the very places where the dogs should be doing their business.

So naturally people would then say, if not the sidewalks, then where? And in years gone by (certainly during the Koch years), the answer was the street...just off off the curb...and clean up, too. However, here there is so much land here to use for other possibilities, I don't see why something mutually satisfactory can't be worked out.

Anonymous said...

As a lawyer, I can tell you why this is not enforced, and if it was, why the city would lose every case. It's the word nuisance. You can't get any more vague than that, and until that word gets changed, enforcement will not happen.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>mgt makes every effort to clean up and disinfect any reported dog messes.<<

Hmm, they should walk the same places I do. There is still dog residue (by now it is hard, though the rain may do something) before one turns to Gracefully, and there is a big pile of shit further in. Management should not wait for residents to complain. It has enough workers who see the stuff far quicker than the residents. Again let me repeat: MANAGEMENT SHOULD NOT WAIT FOR RESIDENTS TO COMPLAIN. Take pride in what is YOUR property.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Oh, and the Management office is very near to where this dog shit is. Nearly every day I see dog shit around there.

Anonymous said...

8 stuy oval. Don't even bother. Just dont.

Anonymous said...

If I had a dog I would have him/her go right outside the management or sales office and I would never pick it up. If I knew Hayduck's address you could add that to it. In fact, I may get a dog simply to do just that, leave love letters to the owners.

Anonymous said...

I love animals but I am sick and tired of looking out my window only to view directly below said window and spread out all over the dirt and grass, multiple piles of fresh and dried dog excrement. If it doesn't rain for a while you can smell the dog piss since these dogs love to piss against the poor tree in this area and my building wall. These people love to bring their dogs to this fenced off corner on a daily basis on a regular schedule so they can do their business. No shame. Who are these disgusting people. I would love to go to their front door and do my business there everyday and see how they feel. And there is a security camera right there so it's all on film. Obviously, management and security don't give a rats ass in enforcing the rules they create. Hyprocrites.

Anonymous said...

One of the apartments on my floor had bedbugs and it took management 3 months to eradicate them fully. They were responsible and nice enough to inform me and others on the floor because that's what a good neighbor does. However, we found out management told them not to tell anybody in the building. WOW. Just WOW. Just so you know how management operates...

Anonymous said...

One of my neighbors had bedbugs and, again, Management was very close-lipped about it. They did help him to eradicate them, but it took about six months and the poor old guy had to shell out money he didn't have for their crew to come in and pack up his stuff in boxes. He had just had surgery and wasn't able to do that kind of heavy work.

If I or one of my neighbors get bedbugs, I will post it in the hallways, lobby and everywhere else (I wouldn't be ashamed) and I would make sure everybody in my building knew. There is also an online registry (City run) where you can post an address with bedbugs.

Being infested with bedbugs is nothing to be ashamed of, but is something to be feared.

I see people moving out and dumping their pillows and cushions in the recycling room and they are NOT in bags.

This place has gone to hell. Absolute hell.

Anonymous said...

hi 1:53, why don't you post the building here then - help a brother out.

Anonymous said...

I can't help but also agree about the bedbug issue. They were bringing Fido around to all of the apartments on my floor (and I'm guessing above and below), and they had a very hush hush approach to the whole thing. It wasn't until one of the tenants affected by this slipped something under a bunch of doors trying to get to the bottom of what was going on. The letter was very nice and didn't offend anyone, she was just looking for information that management was not willing to give.

I also agree that this is nothing for people to be ashamed of. I too would post that I have them if I were to get them. I would prefer people knowing and being preventative instead of waiting until their apartment is potentially infested.

Anonymous said...

Which building? bedbug registry

Anonymous said...


Last year there was a bedbug infestation in an apartment in my building. The tenant herself told me this, and said that management was handling it. Yet, this incident never made it into the NYC bedbug registry. To this day, when I look up my building in the registry, it shows zero incidents. So, yes, I do believe that management is not reporting these bedbug infestations.

Anonymous said...

I am the poster from 4:26 on 1/26. My building is 7 Peter Cooper Road, which was one of the management bedbug hush-hush operations.

Anonymous said...

11:17 PM: You have to report it to the NYC bedbug registry. Of course Management isn't going to do that! It is up to us to do it! The TA used to have a bedbug registry, but they don't anymore. Probably Management told them to take it down and we know they work for Management, so they are going to do what they are told.

Anonymous said...

Post the building for us to know where bedbugs are please!!!!

Anonymous said...

11:17 on Jan 26 - I don't think Management has a legal obligation to report them, though I'm not sure about that. If they do have a legal obligation to report these bedbug infestations on the Bed Bug Registry, then they are clearly violating the law. But that wouldn't be a first!

Anonymous said...

http://www1.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/service/1174/bed-bugs

Even if Management neglects to report these bedbug occurrences, you can go to the Bedbug Registry and post them yourself.

I know for a fact that there were occurrences at both 435 and 445 E 14, but it was a while ago and I believe they were cleaned up successfully. I know people who live in both those buildings and they saw the sniffer dogs going around and saw tenants putting all their clothes and linens in the dryers at high heat. I hope the dryers are hot enough to kill the critters. I don't think I'd ever use a laundry room again if I knew bedbug victims had used it, but sometimes ignorance is bliss because it's for sure that outside laundries have customers with bedbugs. So far, I haven't heard of any bedbugs in my building, but that doesn't mean there haven't been any. When Management doesn't report these things on the Registry, how can we know unless we know people who know?
What happened to the registry that used to be on the TA website? There used to be a very good one there. It just disappeared.

Anonymous said...

440 east 23rd and bugs

Anonymous said...

My mom lives in 7. i'm glad you posted that str, at least we can be aware before the bug sitatuion worsens. some of the elderly do not realize there is an infestation until far too late. best to eradicate it early on.

Anonymous said...

I posted about 7PCR. As far as I know, everything was taken care of and the bugs are gone, so nothing to worry about.