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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. Things like the carpet rule or outsider dogs. These "rules" tend to be ignored, on purpose it seems. So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change, though the "selling" of this place is intense. Few of the "rules" will be enforced, as Management doesn't want to lose customers or potential customers. Where personal integrity is a hallmark of an excellent management style, this integrity is not seen in enforcing some of the rules.

Our Tenants Association is, basically, null and void. Oh, it is still around, but it lacks the will power to confront much of anything. The TA will ask for your dues, however. By now, the TA is a charade.

About those "club cars" we see going this way and that way, and outside of Stuy Town or Peter Cooper Village:

Sunday, October 11, 2009

The Failure of Stuy Town Security

By now you probably have heard that a Stuyvesant Town female resident was attacked and robbed near the M level of 8 Stuyvesant Oval, Sunday, September 27th. It was only through the vocal responses of neighbors and the woman's own grit to fight her attacker that the incident didn't escalate into something far more tragic. According to Town & Village, the woman was robbed of somewhere between $200-300 and suffered two black eyes and broken capillaries in her eyes.

The attack took place deep into this area, near 8 Oval:

Looks charming in the daylight hours, but at night it can be a foreboding forest for a solitary walker, particularly a woman or a senior citizen.

Stuyvesant Town Security did arrive, once they were alerted, but they never "caught their man" and, despite all the cameras around the complex, were not able to see and stop the attack in progress.

All this was foreseen many, many months ago. When Tishman Speyer's massive tree planting campaign started, residents questioned the practicality of having so many trees all around Stuy Town, when the trees would be an obvious natural cover for potential robbers and rapists. In their arrogance, Tishman Speyer didn't listen and even made the potentially dangerous situation even more perilous by reducing Stuy Town's security staff and relying on newly installed cameras, instead of "boots on the ground," to deal with safety issues.

There have been various other incidents inside Stuyvesant Town--muggings and a rape--and in each instance that I know of, Stuy Town Security has not been able to stop the crime nor apprehend the criminal. That's the serious stuff. If we mention the trivial "quality of life" issues, Security has also been a dismal failure. The dog rules are not being enforced and, despite the extra (and pathetic) effort of putting up green barricades, bicyclists still ride their bikes wherever they choose.

I don't blame Security for not being up to the task of stopping crime and enforcing Stuy Town's rules. I blame Tishman Speyer, which has eviscerated Security and relied on technology that has been proven not to work. I've said this over and over: You need an actual security presence on the ground, walking, to even hope to deter crime and enforce the rules. Driving around the loops or the Oval every hour in vehicles is not going to do it; huddling in front of monitors at the Management Office isn't going to work, either. You have to have foot patrols and have those patrols walk throughout the entire complex, the back ways in particular where rules are continually being broken and crime is awaiting to sprout.

My guess is that Security is just as fed up with Tishman Speyer as are residents. My guess is that, furthermore, they feel Tishman Speyer will not stand up for them if they enforce some of the "petty" rules of this place. (I'm sure all of Security is aware of what happened to one of their own when a confrontation took place between a misbehaving dog owner and a security officer who was just trying to enforce the rules; the security officer was fired.)

Tishman Speyer's destruction of Security is just one step in the process of destroying Stuyvesant Town/Peter Cooper Village. And tragic consequences are beginning to arise out of this.


Anonymous said...

The person who was attacked should sue TS for negligence. It seems like she has a good case and then details of these cutbacks will emerge

Anonymous said...

They cut down or mutilated all the beautiful shade trees and then densely planted these hoards of stick trees that do nothing but block light and entice muggers and rapists. Way to go, Tishman Speyer. If brains where made of dynamite you guys wouldn't be able to blow your fucking hats off.

Anonymous said...

I guess we are back to the days when we had to carry mace.

Anonymous said...

I believe that Tishman Speyer is going to put Stuyvesant Town into bankruptcy very soon and therefore they care nothing about the tenants and our safety and well-being - not that they ever did, but now they have less incentive than ever! I wonder if this lack of security and the haphazard planting of trees that obscure vision, along with the terrible lighting, would constitute a diminution of services and be actionable? I wish the Tenants Association would address this issue. Stuyvesant Town used to be one of the safest places to live in the City of New York. Now it is one of the least safe. All because of the greed and stupidity of an inept landlord. These bozos should never have tried to dabble in residential real estate. They were never up to the challenge.

Anonymous said...

From the very first day that I saw those trees going up, it crossed my mind that it would be only a matter of time before we start hearing about these types of crimes. One day I even saw a man emerging from behind the forest of trees on 18th and first in broad daylight. No one would have known he was there. I guess he was using it as a urinal, or worse!

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they would do this in rock center or any of their other buildings. In rock center they have security tripping over each other. When I walk by, I'll see a few security guards congregating and talking. Bring some of those guards down here if they're not doing anything in rock center.

Anonymous said...

Check out the WSJ today. Oy!

Anonymous said...

The sooner these bloodsucking predators, Tishman Speyer, are tossed to the curb the better. Rob Speyer should be crowned King of the Losers.

Anonymous said...


If you see a dog off of leash, or a failure to curb, you can report it anonymously to the DSNY enforcement unit via the web at:

If security refuses to support the rules, we must demand that the city enforce the law ! Everyone who is concerned with this issue needs to file complaints.

Pam said...

I too would like to see our hard-working tenants association address the overplanting of trees and the resulting reduction of safety in the complex. Although I was always careful when coming home late at night, I was never afraid here. Now, even before the attack, the density of the trees has been creeping me out. I am afraid here at night now, and this very much saddens me.

Anonymous said...

The person who attacked should absolutely sue TS. As the plantings began, TS -- and Speyer himself -- was made aware of the danger posed by the dense foliage. So the management was on notice and can't hide behind the "unforeseeable" excuse.

Anonymous said...

When my wife and I heard on Sunday that there was an attempted sexual assault in a Stuyvesant Town building we were disgusted by both the crime as well as the apparent lack of proactive surveillance on the part of Public Safety. The impression it gives us is that Stuyvesant Town Public Safety is mainly interested in the appearance of a high-tech coordinated security force that has electronic eyes everywhere but is actually a team of incompetent civilians dressed in uniforms of authority. Adding to the lack of attention to their web of cameras throughout the complex there is a blatant underutilization of the guard booths located at the access points along 14th street on avenues A, B and C. I have never seen any of these guard booths manned with a guard at any time of the day or night! Never! Maybe the answer is to turn over the responsibility of public safety surveillance to the residents since we are the main ones who have a clue as to how to go about doing it.