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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. Things like the carpet rule or outsider dogs. These "rules" tend to be ignored, on purpose it seems. So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change, though the "selling" of this place is intense. Few of the "rules" will be enforced, as Management doesn't want to lose customers or potential customers. Where personal integrity is a hallmark of an excellent management style, this integrity is not seen in enforcing some of the rules.

Our Tenants Association is, basically, null and void. Oh, it is still around, but it lacks the will power to confront much of anything. The TA will ask for your dues, however. By now, the TA is a charade.

About those "club cars" we see going this way and that way, and outside of Stuy Town or Peter Cooper Village:

Thursday, July 12, 2012

CWCapital Says Goodbye to ZogSports Events

The uproar was considerable, after all.

From Town & Village's Facebook:

On Wednesday, Stuyvesant Town’s management told Town & Village that the company ZogSports, which had been holding events in playgrounds that at least in one instance shut out residents, would no longer be doing so....

In response to the complaints, Joe DePlasco, a spokesperson for CWCapital, said the company hadn’t been renting out the space but was permitted to hold events in a few different playgrounds for a few nights a week in exchange for sports equipment that would be donated to the property. Residents could participate in the programs by signing up through Zog, he added.

However, by late Wednesday, that arrangement, which predates CW’s control of ST/PCV, was no more.

“They reviewed park usage based on complaints and given concerns they will discontinue Zog usage of their facilities,” said DePlasco.


Anonymous said...

The CW spin, per usual, is bullshit. Where is there an on line firewall for non-residents to be banned from enrolling in ZogSport activities in STPCV? The answer, there was/is none. And then ban residents from the use of THEIR playgrounds? This was a violation of the RS law, pure and simple, a reduction of services. They got caught, this time. WTF knows what else is going on under the radar here or what is planned in the future. The initial pulling back of the rock to see the ZogSport bugs scurry out was done on the TA FB page by a brave tenant and amplified on this blog as well. We need Dan to issue a statement not to accept this spin but to reiterate the RS law reduction of services provision and no more friggin “residents and their guests" compromises with CW Capital.

Anonymous said...

I think we hit the tip of the iceberg with this one. Now is the time to scrutinize the ongoings in the oval, parks, and "amenities" even more.

Anonymous said...

What an embarrassment!

Anonymous said...

>>I think we hit the tip of the iceberg with this one. Now is the time to scrutinize the ongoings in the oval, parks, and "amenities" even more.<<

Another obvious one would be the Super Soccer Stars classes held on the large turf field. This is an outside, for-profit organization that uses a significant portion of the field several times a week. It costs quite a bit to take their classes, and I am sure they are kicking some of those fees back to someone. Not the residents.

Tommyboy said...

The people have spoken, getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar must hurt! No money changed hands? Yeah right! Where can we view this donated equipment?
You can,t make this stuff up, blatantly under their noses and defending it as the other regimes infraction.
How does this Car 54 Operation keep their jobs, is there a dumb suggestion box somewhere on the grounds, because if there about that Beer Garden.

Gracie said...

I walked though the oval this evening and it was a beautiful night. Still is. Mostly because people were enjoying the lawns, the benches and everyone looked as though they were having a good time. It was very serene. Something we could use more of these days. And there wasn't an inflatable TV or marching band in sight.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I've had many experiences like that, even of late. When will the powers that be realize that they do not need gimmicks or "something always going on" to lure people to Stuy Town and make them content?

Anonymous said...

So we're paying rent to cover the cost of these spaces, and CWCapital and Rose Associates are collecting from the likes of ZogSports in exchange for some athletic equipment. Is that equipment new or used, I wonder. However you look at it, our overlords are collecting twice for the same thing. Very charitable, Mr. Herzog. Maybe you need to revisit your 9/11-informed conscience (you'll understand the reference if you've visited the ZogSports site).

Blah said...

Where are the volleyball courts on 20th and 1st that are described in the Zog flier? I live at 20th and 1st and would love to play volleyball here. (I must be blind, since I've lived here three years and never seen a volleyball court at 20th and 1st.)

Anonymous said...

So CW says that no rent was paid for the space. But what is accepting equipment in return fr use of the space. Looks like rent, smells like rent, etc. It also shows you that Rose and CW, or perhaps their vendor American lesiure, has no budget for sports equipment. Lots of money for oval bread and circuses and other useless markeying gimmicks but no monet for sports equipment.

Get rid of these guys.

Anonymous said...

Just checked the ZogSports site, and ST playgrounds are still listed. Wonder if the Zogsters have been informed of the latest developments.

Anonymous said...

It's amazing how Rose and CW has no idea what's taking place on the property.

Anonymous said...

Time to send Zog emails! Btw wtf is a Zog?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I don't think we need to send Zog any emails now.

Anonymous said...

The weekend is here! Time to relax and enjoy the Oval.



Lady Maya slide a brochure under my door. Let's see what it says.

There's Always Something Going On In Stuy Town

Join us on the Oval Saturday, July 14th for these scheduled events.

Pony Rides
Cotton Candy House
Bee Keeping Course
Paper Doll Workshop
Petting Zoo
Science Workshop
Publish A Book Seminar
Glass Blowing Bonanza
Pie Eating Contest
Water Slide
Kiddie Garage Band
Grow Your Own Coffee Beans Class
Cooking with Gail
Italian Ice Festival
Kimchi Toss
Yoga, Pilates and Tai Chi
Wallpaper Seminar
Three Ring Circus
Candy Apples
Macaroni Art
Macrame in Minutes
String Art
Dunk Tank with Rosie
BBQ Cook Off
Learn to Make Ice Cream
Grow your Own Dill Seminar
Dancing Unicorns
Dodge Ball
Hot Dog Eating Contest
Ice Skating Rink
Ski Ball
Bong Booth
The History of Lightbulbs
Best Fudge Contest
Budgeting Class
Trumpet Tryouts
Cake Off
One Dollar Oysters
Wine Tasting
Learn to Ride Bike
Learn to Kayak
Exotic Animal Fair
Cat Parade
AA Meetings
Choir Practice
Princess Ballet
Make Up Tips
Galloping Goats
Monster Truck Rally
Fire Eaters
50 Shades of Gray Discussion Panel
Sky Diving
Junior Robin Hood Archery
Bake Sale

...And More

Wow! And I was afraid I would have to settle for an ice coffee and a book!

Anonymous said...

ROFL! And to think that was only page 1 of 4 of Lady Maya's activities for Saturday.

Anonymous said...

"Wow! And I was afraid I would have to settle for an ice coffee and a book!"

You forgot to mention the coffee enema clinic. Oh, wait, that only comes at renewal time...

Anonymous said...

Again with the goats!

Tommyboy said...

Snarky responses should be limited to a few lines! 3 years to yet find the volleyball courts ain't that bad. I still have trouble with all the building addresses.
Danny G has been busy spearheading the anti motorized bikes on sidewalk, unfortunately we have private paths, that are repeatedly violated by full size vehicles, earth movers, golf carts, scooters, one-wheeled thing-a-migjigs, etc.
So thanks for nada.......NOTHING!
Even his statement regarding Zogster's was lame

Anonymous said...

"Btw wtf is a Zog?"

Zog refers to Rob Herzog, founder of ZogSports. The name is in line with current usage, such as 'rents instead of parents. HerSports wouldn't have sounded the same.

Anonymous said...

It's all about getting ready for the big sale.

Anonymous said...

Re: Lady Maya's event list. ROFLMAO

Anonymous said...

Reply to what to list of today's Oval events: what, no mud wrestling?

Anonymous said...

Day 6 and counting: ST playgrounds still listed on Zog site.

Anonymous said...

Playground 3 still listed on Zog site.