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At this point, Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. They tend to be ignored, despite "the rules." So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

Friday, April 26, 2013

PCVST's Newest Amenity

Can't say this is a surprise....


52 comments:

Anonymous said...

They have mortuary wagons prowling the grounds, looking for elderly RS tenants who have been mauled to death by dogs or run over by speeding golf cards or bicycles. They offer "incentives" to dog owners, bicyclists and golf card drivers.

HAL 9000 said...

Sign me up. As Alice Kramden famously said:

“I'm so excited, I don't know whether to live or die."

Anonymous said...

STR this is a wonderful amenity! Not only can you cremate dearly departed ones but you can also bring discarded furniture, mattresses, and bulk items for burning. Sure, I found a door knob in my husbands ashes but I got a jump start on my spring cleaning! Thank you Dan Garodnick! Thank you Campus Joke! Thank you TA!

Anonymous said...

We can also sunbathe on the top of containers - just like tar beach in the old days!!!! OMG- I love this. It beats the ice skating amenity.

Hippo said...

So funny! Perhaps not so far from the truth...I am friends with a now laid-off employee who worked in the management office during the Tishman-Speyer "non-primary residence" inquisition. He told me they had a party every Friday to celebrate whenever a rent-stabilized tenant moved out, or better yet, when an old-timer died. Usually the corpse wasn't cold yet before the workers were busy painting and spackling and preping the apartment for the new tenants. Ghoulish, huh? It's all about the "Benjamins" I guess.

Anonymous said...

The playground regulations have been revised at the official CompassRock PCVST web site.

http://www.pcvstliving.com/amenities/recreation.aspx

This is definitely more detailed than the regulations that were in place at the Rose Associates website so kudos to CompassRock for that. All well and good IF the regulations are enforced (see 80% carpet lease requirement-LOL). At playgrounds 9 & 11, ID’s are checked (only during a certain segment of the year) so the regs will be enforced at those playgrounds. Before IDs were checked, I saw plenty of bikes in playgrounds 9 & 11. “Guests”, I guess. ROFL. And there is this text to give me pause:

Playgrounds PCV2, ST 2, 4, 8 and 12: Ages 2-12 years
No Bicycles, Pets, Alcohol, Water Balloons, Freestanding Furniture or Equipment, Loitering, Skateboarding, Wheeled Toys, Active Sports, Smoking, and No Adults, except in the company of children.

Playgrounds PCV 1 and 3, ST 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11: Ages 13 years+
No Bicycles, Pets, Alcohol, Water Balloons, Freestanding Furniture or Equipment, and No Loitering.

I guess smoking IS allowed IN playgrounds PCV 1 and 3, ST 3, etc. WTF? If this is true, not a good policy, smoking should not be allowed in ANY playground. There are plenty of benches just outside the playgrounds for smokers. Does anyone at CWC/CompassRock proof read this shit?

Anonymous said...

Is that true, Hippo? If so, then those people really are a lot more evil than I ever suspected.

Hippo said...

To anonymous 1:01PM...indeed my original posting was 100% true...greed and avarice rule the day in case you haven't figured that one out yet...the only thing that counts is the bottom line...kindness, decency, humanity...what's that? Trust me...Tishman-Speyer, CW Capital, Compass Cock...oops, I mean Comppass Rock...how much they can squeeze out of this place is THE ONLY THING that matters.

Anonymous said...

Just when I thought I've seen everything. This afternoon two teenage girls were chatting up a public safety office on the First Avenue Loop by the basketball courts. He was on a stand up Segway. Then who goes zooming by me but the public safety officer with one of the teenage girls on the back. This was around 3:30 give or take.

Anonymous said...

The stupid, half-baked TA is giving Compass Crock credit for addressing the noise problems by their list of "dos and donts." BULLSHIT! These are just empty words from Compass Crock! They don't actually enforce any of these rules/suggestions! Same with the subletting situation. So they send out an email telling us we shouldn't ....., but they do fuck-all about it! Look on the fb pages of some of the Mom Zombies. They rent out their apartments to weekend subletters and blatantly say so on the fb pages. If Compass Crock really wanted to crack down on these people, they could and they would. They just pay lip service and do nothing while, at the same time, tout their bread and circus "entertainments" while people who live here full time and pay rent don't even have laundry rooms, elevators, working intercoms. This so-called "management" insults our intelligence at every turn. I believe that CW's aim and object is to drive out every stable, law-abiding tenant by making life as miserable as possible. And I still don't get it as to why they can arbitrarily raise rents outside of the RGB percentages. There is so much crookedness and subterfuge with this "management" that I think they must have paid off our so-called elected representatives to turn a blind eye and deaf ear. Garodnick seems to be USELESS and I very much suspect he is in on all the dirty dealings. Same goes for Maloney. BTW, Maloney, brainless broad that you are, don't have your robot calls interrupt my dinner again!

Anonymous said...

Did anyone else notice how everything was specified for residents and their guests right up front except the Greenmarket? Thank you for destroying the lawn GrowNYC! Why don't you regrow the grass they paved over to accommodate you since you love the damn earth so much. Allegedly.

Anonymous said...

I love the market and would sacrifice 40 feet of chemical fertilizer filled lawn. To me, it really is a wonderful amenity and a great way to wake up on Sunday. It adds so much life and color to the Oval.

Anonymous said...

GrowNYC's website now says that the ST Greenmarket is for guests and residents only, albeit in small type.

http://www.grownyc.org/greenmarket-site/manhattan/stuyvesant-town-greenmarket

Anonymous said...

@5:09pm
I saw that also and noticed that the security spent an awful amount of time with 2 very young girls!

Anonymous said...

Uh....anybody know where the management office moved/hid to?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>I love the market and would sacrifice 40 feet of chemical fertilizer filled lawn. To me, it really is a wonderful amenity and a great way to wake up on Sunday. It adds so much life and color to the Oval.<<

I have nothing against the idea of a market, but I wouldn't sacrifice the historic Oval lawn for it. Also, I wonder if you have ever thought about the people who are awakened or disturbed at the early hour when the market is being set up?

Anonymous said...

I am one of those dreaded long term rent stabilized tenants who has opted out of all upgrades and as a result I pay a low rent and I think this is great. I have always said the only way they are going to get me out of here is in a body bag. Now they don't have very far to take me. Downside for Compass rock is that I will pass apartment on to my now teenage kids. So the last laugh is on them.

Anonymous said...

"Also, I wonder if you have ever thought about the people who are awakened or disturbed at the early hour when the market is being set up?"

Lately I can't get a moment's peace in my own apartment. Since I work at home it's becoming an issue. Between the brick drilling, standpipe replacement, apartment renovations, leaf blowing, etc it's really become very loud to be home during the day.

Right now there are about 10 maintenance workers screaming the F word at each other while flinging glass recyclables (they all break, making a very grating noise) into the back of a box truck directly outside my window. Another daily luxury amenity from CW.

Anonymous said...

I'm not disturbed and I live on the Oval--near that end. I am by ambulances though. All the time. And grass is not historic, please. It's filled with chemicals and we weren't allowed on it anyway. This does not bother me at all. Not in the least, and I am a member of the Sierra Club and believe in public spaces. This is NOT a threat to our environment, indeed, the long-term and far reaching benefits to our watershed from supporting farming and awareness it brings to our community far exceeds any negative from a small patch of chemical filled commercial grass seed.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>And grass is not historic, please. It's filled with chemicals and we weren't allowed on it anyway.<<

Of course the Oval Lawn is historic. It's been here since the place was built, I believe, and has been here for decades. The greenmarket has taken a chunk out of the southern end. You like the dirt/gravel that's there for six days a week during this season, I prefer to have grass. As for not being allowed on it, well--we have been for years now.

Hippo said...

Anonymous said...
I am one of those dreaded long term rent stabilized tenants who has opted out of all upgrades and as a result I pay a low rent and I think this is great. I have always said the only way they are going to get me out of here is in a body bag. Now they don't have very far to take me. Downside for Compass rock is that I will pass apartment on to my now teenage kids. So the last laugh is on them.

April 29, 2013 at 12:21 PM


To 12:21PM poster:
Likewise I am a long-term rent-stabilized tenant and the only way they'll get me out of here is in a body bag...lol...and when I croak I will pass the apartment on to my daughter so CW Capital, Compass Cock and all the money grubbing ghouls can go F-themselves. They tried the "non-primary residence" bullsh*t on me but failed.They have assiduously endeavored to destroy what was once a middle-class jewel in the midst of Manhattan and turned it into Dorm City and a haven for transients...so sad.

Anonymous said...

To all the Green Market lovers, never mind the RN-7 residential zoning law issue for the location of the market at the Oval (Dan did a major cave on this-residents and their guests-LOL) that you never seem to address but since the Oval dog free zone location for the Green Market is violated with impunity daily by dog owners all the time, I hope you love dog shit and urine with your artisanal and organic produce.


Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>when I croak I will pass the apartment on to my daughter<<

Don't forget that for that to happen your daughter has to live in the apartment with you for two years, I believe. I think everyone living in a non-renovated apartment should seek this legal turnover. Keep Stuy Town and PCV affordable!

Anonymous said...

Off topic, my baby kangaroo got ringworm in the Oval after he fell in dog feces. Can anyone recommend a ringworm expert?

Anonymous said...

Speaking of zoning law, you see, under Bloomberg and his “successor”, Christine Quinn, there is no reason to abide by the law if you pimp for the Real Estate Industry.

http://gvshp.org/blog/2013/04/29/citys-own-data-contradicts-their-claims-on-trump-sohos-legality-pt-ii/

Tommyboyardee said...

Bring out the dead, bring out the dead.
Campus Rock Rules!

Anonymous said...

OT - anyone on here who has heard back from the overcharges after filling out all that paperwork?

seems like months.. again!

Anonymous said...

Looks like the containers parked around PCV are gone; went out for a walk tonight and did not see any. Also some of the PCV basement windows are no longer sealed but are now open. Progress?

Anonymous said...

Yes- the containers r gone !!!! Maybe we were heard. The pictures got them moving. Good work. .

Anonymous said...

Yes, the containers are gone, but no mention of where they were taken. Considering that they were sitting there for five months, the contents must be in worse shape than when they went in.

Some small signs of landscaping restoration.

I'll call it progress when I see my basement being restored. Looks like it really will be September before we get our laundry rooms back. Thanks for all the substantive updates, CompassRock.

Anonymous said...

Since I reside on the 1st Avenue side of ST I almost never venture into the oval area so I am not bothered by the concerts, green market, oval cafe, open bicycling etc. However that doesn't mean I agree with them. I think they have opened the door for more commercial ventures in the future and are the real ruin to this once fine neighborhood. (Thanks Dan Garodnick and the group formerly known as the TA!!!)
Although I don't care for those particular positions taken by the landlord or the vile practice of chopping up apartments to fit in as many paying customers as it takes to pay the newly available apartment's ridiculous rent, I must say there is some fine landscaping work taking place on my side of town.

Anonymous said...

They should start to landscape PCV. It is a mess. Like a slum. Oh yeah- they stuck a FEW flowers here n there. Big deal. All it is - is a bed of soil with dog droppings . I will say this-at least they are now enforcing playground rules. Big difference. Let's hope they continue to follow through on this n for all people !!!!!

Anonymous said...

Yes, 10.06 AM, I sympathize with you and the rest of my neighbors who lost the use of basements/laundryrooms. I realize that getting back the use of these areas should be top priority, but equally important is planning for future floods. I was in PCV #8 when the storm of 1992 swamped the area; we lost our car which was parked in a ST garage. What, if anything, is being planned for future flooding?

Anonymous said...

Can anyone recommend a handy man to help me remove a TV from my wall and e-recycle it? I also need someone to help me choose paint colors and hang a border in Joeys room. Thanks!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Wasn't the TA Facebook helpful?

Anonymous said...

STR,

Blood relatives only have to live with you for one year for the apartment to pass legally. Certainly true for children--not sure about more distant relatives.

Any stranger off the street can inherit the place if they live with you for two years.

We should all consider bringing in a homeless person if we plan to vacate in a couple of years!

Anonymous said...

It's not just those living in PCV buildings with no laundry rooms that are being inconvenienced. Our building has a functioning(!) laundry room which is now apparently available to all in PCV. While doing the laundry the past 3 weeks, I've come to know 4 people from other buildings, and they all told me that they have been given keycard access to the other buildings with a laundry room. We have 5 old, dirty, unpredictable washers and 6 dryers, and they are at the disposal of anyone who chooses to pop in, apparently.

Anonymous said...

WHAT ABOUT THE CLASS action lawsuit and all the overcharges?

ANYONE hear news? it's been yearsssssss now.

Anonymous said...

"Yes, 10.06 AM, I sympathize with you and the rest of my neighbors who lost the use of basements/laundryrooms. I realize that getting back the use of these areas should be top priority, but equally important is planning for future floods. I was in PCV #8 when the storm of 1992 swamped the area; we lost our car which was parked in a ST garage. What, if anything, is being planned for future flooding?"

A real management company could do both at the same time, but you can ask Sean Sullivan in person. According to p. 4 of this week's T&V:

A town hall meeting for residents will be held at the ST Community Center on Tuesday, May 7 at 5:30 p.m. ST/PCV General Manager Sean Sullivan will be on hand to answer questions.

The community center is at 449 E 14th St., on the First Avenue loop, near 16th Street.

Anonymous said...

Enough about Joey! I'm tired of reading the posts on Oval Families where you beg for free services and products. I'm starting to think Joey isn't real!

Anonymous said...

"It's not just those living in PCV buildings with no laundry rooms that are being inconvenienced. Our building has a functioning(!) laundry room which is now apparently available to all in PCV. While doing the laundry the past 3 weeks, I've come to know 4 people from other buildings, and they all told me that they have been given keycard access to the other buildings with a laundry room. We have 5 old, dirty, unpredictable washers and 6 dryers, and they are at the disposal of anyone who chooses to pop in, apparently."

I live in one of the buildings that lost its laundry room, and I do sympathize with people living in buildings that we were given access to (four, I think). It took months for Management to make any arrangements for us at all. I used 2PCR once and decided to go outside to do my laundry. But imagine you're an elderly or incapacitated person who can't get the laundry to one of the functioning buildings and whose household help doesn't want the extra burden of going to another building. Imagine you're the parent of small children, and you can't easily haul all your laundry to the other buildings or to First Avenue. Yes, there are places that will pick it up, do it for you, and deliver it, but maybe that doesn't suit you.

So I'm sorry that the rest of us (something like 15 buildings' worth) are inconveniencing you. It's a sucky situation and Management hasn't responded adequately.

Anonymous said...

Has the TA said anything about the conversion? A comment -or 2 -would help. I heard from a worker that the laundry rooms are not going to be fixed until DECEMBER!!!of course. Since we have no information forth coming - we must rely on the porters ! Saw the email re: concerts - sounds so inviting . These people are a poor excuse for management . They should try to focus on important issues.

Anonymous said...

The PCV laundry room situation IS an inconvenience for everyone else in the complex. It is a diminution in service for all, and also a security issue for some (doors are left wide open, more strangers afoot). Residents who do have a functioning laundry room are being displaced by an influx of new users from the other buildings without a laundry room; many of my neighbors use the laundromats on the avenue because they don't want to deal with the situation "downstairs". Besides the extra people increasing wait time, the machines are breaking down more than ever, and the laundry room is filthier more than ever. Yes, definitely something for the upcoming tenants' meeting.

Anonymous said...

Something I've tried to do ever since Mac Gray took over the laundry facilities: I leave a broom, dustpan, and/or a mop behind the trash barrel in our laundry room. Since Mac Gray NEVER cleans these rooms, at least I can assure that if/when my clothes fall on the floor (raise the machines on short risers & they'll be the same height as the wire bins; less spillage), they don't land in a pile of discarded lint balls. They are occasionally thrown out by housekeeping (& often rescued & replaced by tenants) and the Swiffers are always stolen by other tenants. Still, when someone moves out, it's common to see these downstairs & they make a BIG difference in managing the grossness factor.

Anonymous said...

In this week's Town & Village newspaper, page 5, dryer in PCV bldg #2 laundry room catches fire last Friday. Laundry room was still dark by following Tuesday. PCV has a total of 30 washers, give or take. PCV bldg #2 has 14 washers; I believe the rest of the washers are to be found in only 3 other buildings. I often see people running with laundry from one building to another, trying to find a free machine. Pathetic.

Anonymous said...

All this complaining about the laundry facilities is such a waste of time. ST/PCV never had laundry rooms in the buildings, there were central laundries located in the 4 quadrants in ST, and a facility in PCV. Many people with large families had a washing machine in the kitchen, and they hung clothes to dry in the bathroom. The washers were initially allowed, then banned but grandfathered in for those who already had them.

Anyway, I digress.... we gave up on using the laundry rooms many years ago because the quality was so lousy. We sent our laundry out to one of the local places (I used Prestige on 18th St), and they picked up and delivered including Dry Cleaning. By the time you factor in the cost of soap etc, the net price was maybe $10 more per week than what ST charged, and we didn't have to waste time with running up and down and dealing with the filth in the laundry room.

In the last few years there have been a couple of laundromats that have opened in the area, including one across the street from PCV, but I don't know if they are full service.

Anonymous said...

"All this complaining about the laundry facilities is such a waste of time. "

Why is it a waste of time? Isn't this supposed to be an amenity that we're paying for? Isn't it one of the features the place advertises? There are those who do not want to pay a fortune to have a family's laundry done by someone else, and there are those who prefer their own way of doing the laundry. What, in your opinion, is worthy of complaint?

Anonymous said...

To 11:25 AM, I for one, am well aware of the laundry businesses around the neighborhood. I am also well acquainted with the prices of most things related. I am even well aware of the laundry history and practices of bygone days in STPCV. What does that have to do with the fact that one more important feature of this place, a QOL issue, an amenity, a convenience, etc., etc, has gone by the wayside?

Anonymous said...

If I thought that the landlord gave a rats ass about maintaining the laundry facilities, then I'd be advocating for using them. Like I said, we've been sending our laundry out for years because we simply gave up on the issue of improving those facilities.

I'm much more concerned about real QOL issues like noise and dogs. The laundry issue is solvable, simply by using outside facilities. Understand ? You have control over that, but not the other issues. It would be great if the laundry rooms worked, but it's a de minimis issue according to DHCR, and not worth fighting about.

Anonymous said...

What is worth fighting for can be very subjective; what you deem QOL issues may not be such a bother to someone else. The landlord doesn't give a rat's ass (to quote 3:45 PM), so now what? The noise complaints? how do you fix those since there is no noise insulation in these buildings? We have carpeting/padding over 80% of the apartment and we still got the people below us complaining (and they have no carpeting and make more noise than we do)! Dogs? You really think there is the manpower to follow all the dogs around in this place around the clock, and issue summonses? I've been told by neighbors "the place is what it is, take it or leave it". People are willing to settle for less and less and less...

Anonymous said...

One more comment on the laundry rooms. You will NEVER be able to keep these rooms clean without an attendant. There are too many pet owners living here now, and the machines will be filthy in no time because people paying market rate rents feel entitled to have others clean up after them. The days of everyone cooperating on behalf of the better good, have gone my friends.

Anonymous said...

@5:51, NOT TRUE!! My building has a few brooms, a dustpan, and a mop, rescued from some of our frequent move-outs. EVERYONE uses them! NO ONE wants their clothes to fall into a pile of dirt and lint balls. Doesn't make the machines any less mucus-y or hair & funk-filled but it DOES help. No attendant required.

BTW, what do pet owners have to do with the cleanliness of the laundry rooms? Odd statement, that one...