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Friday, November 22, 2013

Breaking News: No MCI Rent Bill Increases this December

Both the TA and CWCapital (PCVST Living) have released brief notifications stating that residents will not see the scheduled MCI increases in their December rent bills, increases which are postponed until January. Both parties say talks are ongoing between them, with CWCapital adding that the DHCR is also involved.

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ain't that sweet. We'll get slammed in January with the new [bogus] increases. Happy New Year from Andy Mac and his crew.

Anonymous said...

Thank you to our dear benevolent Overlords.

Anonymous said...

Does that mean my retro rent when eventually implemented is going cost more?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>If< it gets implemented.

Anonymous said...



Well WTF is the point of that? They're bogus and we all know it. What is the difference if they charge us now or in January.

DISGUSTING practices. And NO ONE DOING a damn thing about it.

Anonymous said...

This is the first time I can recall that CW has worked with the TA. Am I incorrect?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I don't know if "worked with" would be the correct expression, but I'm sure they have had talks before.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like they're just delaying the hour at which Titanic will hit the iceberg, but hit it it certainly will.

Anonymous said...

Not sure what 6:07 AM's comment is all about.

DHCR made MCI rulings that were bad for us tenants. The TA hired a law firm specializing in this stuff to represent us before DHCR and then in court if it comes to that. Our attorney got DHCR to rescind and reconsider the original Orders to pay the MCI rent increases. DHCR said that while its reconsidering, we'll have to start paying those increases. Our attorney met with their attorney and they negotiated a no MC rent increase in Dec for us.

How that translates into "NO ONE DOING a damn thing" leaves me scratching my head. Apparently nothing short of magical elves waving wands to make everything bad go away is acceptable to some people.

Anonymous said...

I suspect it's because their lousy, incompetent account department haven't got the figures ready yet. This isn't a gesture of good will, it's a cover up for their incompetency. The entire CW/CR reeks of incompetence, greed and total contempt for the tenants. I wish they would just GO AWAY!

Anonymous said...

"And NO ONE DOING a damn thing about it."

Where you at the TA PS 104 MCI meeting? Did you volunteer to distribute pledge forms? Did you sign the pledge form? Did you input your MCI docket numbers to the TA webpage? Yes?

Anonymous said...

They'll just have us all 'PAY MORE' in the end…..

Anonymous said...

To anyone who lives in Stuy Town, move out. I lived in Stuy Town for 20 years, moved out last fall and could not be happier. My landlord doesn't abuse me financially and my building isn't overrun with college kids. I no longer have the steady stream of leaf blowing, rock concerts and back hos keeping me company during the day. My only regret is I wish I left sooner. It's not going to get better. The trend is it's only getting worse and, like being in an abusive relationship, it chips away your well being. But you don't realize it until after you've settled into a new normalcy. I wish everyone the best but consider leaving this tragedy.

Anonymous said...

CW made a big mistake riling up the community...but that was good for us on 3 scores. First, CW saw firsthand what this place can be like when angered. Second, having the community reacting out loud gave the TA leverage...because when CW goes to sell this place to a developer, it's not good for bidding if developers see the community as a lot of trouble & headaches. The investor Byron Wien was quoted saying among other reasons, he wasn't interested in bidding for STPCV because of contentious tenants. Third, we can see the kind of leverage we have when we make noise together.

Anonymous said...

All these increases will just make the inevitable condo conversion look more affordable. As the optimist said while the Titanic was sinking, "At least we're in first class."

Anonymous said...



LOL. I love the posts from those who have left, moved out.

They post how great their new landlord is, how nice the apartment is, but never EVER say where.

If you want to advise or help us, tell us where exactly. We've been looking for a new home for months. SLIM PICKINGS and this THIS is the reason we are still here. ?

Anonymous said...

"To anyone who lives in Stuy Town, move out. I lived in Stuy Town for 20 years, moved out last fall and could not be happier. My landlord doesn't abuse me financially and my building isn't overrun with college kids. I no longer have the steady stream of leaf blowing, rock concerts and back hos keeping me company during the day. My only regret is I wish I left sooner. It's not going to get better. The trend is it's only getting worse and, like being in an abusive relationship, it chips away your well being. But you don't realize it until after you've settled into a new normalcy. I wish everyone the best but consider leaving this tragedy."

I, like you, have lived in this project for quite a long time. I agree with much of what you say. I too, will leave as soon as possible, extremely agreeable rent not withstanding. Unfortunately, for me, I have to stay for around 7 more years. However, I take solace in the fact that I will not be freeing up and apartment for these bandits until that time. I truly wish I never experienced how Stuyvesant Town was before the Met Life sale. It would have made dealing with the dump it's become much easier.

Anonymous said...

Sunday evening: CWock (my conflation) has posted a notice on the vestibule door, announcing the delay in MCI charges (same message as their email, including "with respect."). At first I thought it was another work permit--my building has five posted.

Anonymous said...

I am the person who left the comment about my move. I found my apartment on StreetEasy.com.

Anonymous said...

Agree with 7:22. Prior to the sale we were a community. Now we're just a piece of real estate. 7 turbulent years.

Anonymous said...



You found your apartment on street easy. You may have paid a broker and you may be living on Long Island.

No offense, we know there are other apartments. We've been looking for months. Are you in Queens? Where EXACTLY do you find decent apartments here?

Ken from Ken's Kitchen said...

Just a guess 6:09 AM, but the UES has much more for less rent-wise than most other Manhattan neighborhoods because kids don't want to live there these days.

Anonymous said...

So you're saying I can find a two-bedroom on the Upper East Side with utilities included for less than $2,000 a month? Please, no walk-ups either. I need an elevator. Thank you!

Anonymous said...



How would we find out the 'LEGAL rent' or prior rent on our rental here?

ours is a just renovated apartment that had been with one tenant (prior) for decades. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

So you're saying I can find a two-bedroom on the Upper East Side with utilities included for less than $2,000 a month? Please, no walk-ups either. I need an elevator. Thank you!

Is that what you're paying here? If so then no, you probably won't do better in Manhattan. Last I heard, market raters were paying significantly more to live in this housing project. If you are paying under 2 grand for a 2 bedroom then the move to make, I guess, is to pray for a conversion, buy in, and dump it as soon as you can and roll the proceeds into a habitable abode.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>How would we find out the 'LEGAL rent' or prior rent on our rental here?<<

There's info here:

http://www.housingnyc.com/html/resources/faq/rents.html#previous

Someone may have a more direct link.

Anonymous said...


Apartments around the 'area' and UES are not cheaper. Possibly more peaceful, but you do KNOW that we have a major housing shortage here. Seriously low inventory = the bottom line. :(

Anonymous said...

Notwithstanding these outrageous "MCI" charges and all the destruction and misery CW has inflicted on our community, they still have the unmitigated gall to stuff the rent bill envelopes with ads for their crappy commercial activities and their "incentive" for bringing in new tenants. I would never, ever, under any circumstances spend any of my money on their out-of-place commercial enterprises and there is no one whom I hate enough to try to get them to rent here. I warn people against ever renting here and feel I have done a good deed in doing so.

Anonymous said...

Just got the latest outrageous email from CW: The Season for Giving. You know what I'd like them to give me? A CLEAN, FUNCTIONING LAUNDRY ROOM. Per the email, they have time and money to participate in City Harvest and Toys for Tots, do a Christmas tree lighting and a menorah lighting, set up a "special new mailbox" for Santa in Oval Concierge (adults can participate too!), and arrange for Christmas tree sales in the Oval, BUT THEY CAN'T FINISH THE BASEMENTS.

Anonymous said...

Everybody should read the Salon article that appears in the news items column on this blog. It is about how Wall Street is into the business of being slumlords and many of the renters are the same people these Wall Street devils caused to lose their homes. There's a special place in Hell ....

Anonymous said...

You know what I'd like: A decent stable rent that doesn't get increased by 20% at their leisure.

Terrible how this management treats decent tenants.

Anonymous said...

What if EVERYONE refused to pay the MCIs?

Just wondering.


Anonymous said...



Dumb question I know.. but isn't everyone 'stabilized' now>

So even if a tenant is paying $5k a month for an apartment, what is the renewal rate? Isn't it 4 or 6% across the board?

TIA

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Everyone is in a rent-stabilized apartment. The landlord can raise the rent upon renewal at 4 or 6%, depending on the length of your lease.

Anonymous said...

Can someone please explain how everyone is now RS. Is it because of something related to the Roberts Case ???

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Yes, the Roberts case resulted in all apartments here becoming rent-stabilized.

Anonymous said...

does anyone know how much the increase will be for the dec rent? Will we be offered a chance to break our lease and leave like folks who had the option earlier this year. If given the option, I'd leave stuy town asap.

anna said...

does anyone know if i can break my (market rate apt.)lease because of MCI increase on rent bill