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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. Things like the carpet rule or outsider dogs. These "rules" tend to be ignored, on purpose it seems. So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change, though the "selling" of this place is intense. Few of the "rules" will be enforced, as Management doesn't want to lose customers or potential customers. Where personal integrity is a hallmark of an excellent management style, this integrity is not seen in enforcing some of the rules.

Our Tenants Association is, basically, null and void. Oh, it is still around, but it lacks the will power to confront much of anything. The TA will ask for your dues, however. By now, the TA is a charade.

About those "club cars" we see going this way and that way, and outside of Stuy Town or Peter Cooper Village:

Friday, April 11, 2014

Preview of Forthcoming Post -- "We Live in the Projects"

Photos taken today, by the 20th St Loop, in preparation for a major post on PCVST and its kinship to "the projects." I didn't even have to search for what's below. I pass it by almost daily. Click on photos to make them bigger.

Below, on the right, you will see a wavy and damaged railing, with a pathetic attempt to fix it. On the left, the railing is completely missing, and there's poor cement work in the foreground--I guess another attempt at a "fix."

Below: The steps walkway on that side. The concrete at the corner is severely chipped, with missing chunks. Do note the dog crap on the bottom left corner, and, if you can spot it, two turds by the first post. There were more dog turds and smears on the way up.

If you saw something like this when walking through the projects on the Lower East Side, you'd think slum.

Such disrepair is seen day after day and becomes the new "new."  Soon we ignore it and don't realize how much has really changed.


Anonymous said...

The property bears absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to how it used to be before CWCap got their filthy hands on it. They have systematically destroyed the place by neglect and design. RIP PCVST.

Anonymous said...

What a disgrace! I do believe that "they "are trying to push us out. Hoping that we just get fed up & leave. Would not surprise me if the sale is something out of left field - like - half of ST is sold to NYU & the other half is divided between low income & market rate. Never know. I guess we will find out soon enough.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Part of what's happening, I think, is the crafting of a prospectus that will show that maintenance doesn't cost as much as it did before. Lowering operational costs was the rationale for getting rid of union painters, Rose Management, etc. That's why the Oval was pruned so much of its previous foliage and gardening. Now the Oval is a relatively low-cost maintenance operation, with the periodic placement of small areas of new flowers.

Anonymous said...

Piles of Shit
Puddles of Piss
Smears galore
Life at the Sty

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

Big turd right in from of Oval Concierge this afternoon. How delightful.

Anonymous said...

I have a dog vs security story I think you'll all enjoy.

Anonymous said...

I agree with 7:01 pm. I hope prospective buyers really pore over the books of these crooks and see the great big holes in the figures. If they don't, it will be their stupid fault for not doing their homework. Remember how Tishman Speyer believed all the bullshit that MetLife fed them? It would be laughable if only it hadn't affected so many innocent people's lives so badly.
Rob Speyer was totally taken in by MetLife's book-cookers and that shows what a totally stupid dolt he was, but we tenants were the ones who suffered. I hope the next buyer of this property has some intelligence and savvy and, unlike the Speyer Idiot, really forces CW/CR to be transparent.

Tommyboyardee said...

Please remember "there ain't no chimneys in the projects"

Anonymous said...

Many projects in NYC have cleaner outside grounds then PCV/ST. No joke

Take a walk over to Ave C and 12th street and you will NOT see this filth and disrepair at the low income housing campus.

Anonymous said...

There is a group of kids who slowly destroy the flagpole at the eastern end of the 20th Street loop with their skateboards every night. Aside from that obnoxious slapping, cracking and the subsequent OHHHHH screaming, the edges of the flagpole are becoming chipped and cracked.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Skateboarding should be banned on the property. Damn noisy and chips cement away.

Anonymous said...

I've seen those kids skateboarding down the large curved ramp. That's accident/collision just waiting to happen.