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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. Things like the carpet rule or outsider dogs. These "rules" tend to be ignored, on purpose it seems. So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change, though the "selling" of this place is intense. Few of the "rules" will be enforced, as Management doesn't want to lose customers or potential customers. Where personal integrity is a hallmark of an excellent management style, this integrity is not seen in enforcing some of the rules.

Our Tenants Association is, basically, null and void. Oh, it is still around, but it lacks the will power to confront much of anything. The TA will ask for your dues, however. By now, the TA is a charade.

About those "club cars" we see going this way and that way, and outside of Stuy Town or Peter Cooper Village:

Friday, October 17, 2014

Attempted Rape in Stuy Town

TA email:

At about 4:00 a.m. on Friday, October 17, a 20-year-old woman was assaulted by a would-be rapist who followed her into the elevator of her Stuyvesant Town building on the 600 block of East 14th Street. She fought him off, and he fled. The man's image was captured on security cameras in the Terrace and Main lobbies, the elevator, and then later in the street. He was seen climbing down a tree to get to street level.
The suspect is described by police as a male Hispanic wearing a dark hoodie, a dark T-shirt, blue jeans, and white sneakers.

The woman was badly injured and treated at Beth Israel Medical Center.

  1. Be aware of your surroundings at all times.
  2. Do not let anyone into the building that you don't recognize.
  3. Shut the security door behind you so that no one can sneak in behind you. Don't just proceed to the elevator.
  4. Don't get into the elevator with anyone you have any doubt about.
  5. If you are concerned, contact Public Safety via the lobby intercom.
  6. Do not worry about offending someone--your safety is the most important thing.

Although our neighborhood is generally safe, we have had incidents--most recently the StuyTown Groper--so it's important for everyone to stay alert, not just for themselves but for their neighbors and the security of the building.


UPDATE:  More info here.

The suspect:


Anonymous said...

We are getting raped by the landlord every fucking day.

Anonymous said...

Sadly,there have been other assaults in recent years (one where a man in my building was forced to strip naked so he could not pursue his assailants), but they have gone unreported (in spite of the bictim's and neighbors' attempts to publicize) because management did not want the bad publicity .

Anonymous said...

I live in a thriving Airbnb building and people with luggage and no key cards are always trying to follow me in. I always refuse to let them in, just as I always refuse to let other people with no key cards into the building. Unfortunately, there is always some lame-brained putz who, a few minutes later, will let them in as they exit or enter the building. It's pretty much a lost cause here, but at 4 am, a guy with a bag of groceries? I feel bad for the little girl and hope she will be ok (though I think it will take her a long time to heal emotionally) and I can understand her not wanting to get into an argument with somebody following her in at 4 am. Unfortunately, she made the mistake of getting into the elevator with him. She should have gone back out the building onto the street and either called Security or made a noise outside to draw attention to the suspicious character. I am in no way blaming the victim. Hindsight is always 20-20 and I doubt the young lady was expecting anything bad to happen in this "luxury" highly-touted dump.

Anonymous said...

This management company prioritizes profit over safety. Our kids are no longer as safe here as they were 5 years ago. This is not a family oriented community environment. Its a frat / dorm mentality. No doubt crime will increase with the transients, the overpopulation, the drunkedness, the closed off open views of once open space, rampant drugs and alcohol partying, and so on.

Anonymous said...

Good thing we paid big MCIs for all those security cameras.

Giovanni said...

There may be a serial rapist on the loose. A similar attack by a suspect with the same description took place just 2 weeks ago on 8th St. and Avenue B. The attacker was a young male Hispanic with a light mustache in a hoodie with white sneakers. The only difference was that the previous attacker had a light grey hoodie, while this one had on a black hoodie.

Someone posted flyers around the neighborhood warning others about this attacker. See EV Grieve for more info:

The neighborhood is not nearly as safe as people may think, especially in the late night hours when both of these attacks happened. Hope everyone stays safe and they catch this guy soon.

Anonymous said...

It is time for the TA and our elected officials to insist that the 13th precinct provide a report of all crimes in ST/PCV on a weekly basis. We should also question whether when Security responds if they report to the precinct.

One has to ask how many Security officers are on the overnight shift. Perhaps all the officers who protect the illegal farmers market could be reassigned.

It is also remarkable that it was the TA and not management that put out the alert on this.

Edmund Dunn said...

BTW, I copied and pasted to Word the TA email blast and posted it in my M and T lobbies by the elevators.

Anonymous said...

7:36 that is atrocious. Management putting publicity over human safety.

Just 5 years ago PCVST used to be a safe place for our kids to play and run around. Now it is too dangerous to let them go in the hallways let alone outside.

The commercial entities and transients are increasing foot traffic, attracting dangerous criminals.

Crime is up and the types of crimes are more dangerous.

Even the Mayor is getting in on the action by advertising Stuyvesant Town Oval as an NYC tourist attraction as someone earlier provided that link.


Anonymous said...

7:36 will the victim and neighbors tell their story now if we can get it publicized?

Anonymous said...

PCVST is LESS Safe, we have less Open Space, less Quality of Life, less Peace and Quiet one deserves in their home, less trees, less wildlife, less long term residents...

more mci charges, more ways landlord can gouge us with newly allowable exterior mci charges coming, more transients than a hotel, more foot traffic, more crime, more sketchy leasing tricks, more arbitrary pop up fees, more construction, more renovation gouging, more electrical costs, more operating costs, more cover ups, more corruption.

All this under Dan's TA.

An assessment of the property price needs to be redone before we buy.

Anonymous said...


The Comment section is as important to give the full picture. The Brookfield Moelis Weiss Garodnick TA deal has the wrong priorities.

The headline that Stuy Town's best hope lies with its tenants - means that the best hope for returning money to those who invested in the Tishman scheme of to get it from the tenants. To get them to overpay in a purchase, to get tenants to over pay on rents, and to get tenants evicted from apartments so the heavily rent regulated property would become heavily market rate.

The Brookfield bid is so called a "tenant led" bid and the Market Rate are so called "new stabilizers" to make it seem all this is being done in the name of the tenants. But there is no benefit to tenants, only downside.

Comment section

Robert P. wrote on 06/22/12 at 4:37 PM

What a mess this is for the tenants of the two communities. In my view, it is one more lesson in how investment bankers and real estate moguls can ruin life for many reccepients of such huge middle class developments - while lining their own pockets, with little or no downside.

J wrote on 06/22/12 at 9:16 PM

Can't see any community chest-thumping about this. The analysis implies the Brookfield will be good for the bondholders (pay them the most money). As far as the tenants are concerned, this is bad news. If it happens, it will cost them that much more money to buy their units.

Kyle wrote on 07/01/12 at 7:16 PM

The bigger problem with pricing is the Tenant Associations bizarre "two-tiered" pricing plan.They're going to offer apts. with few resale restrictions but at a price so high it offers little,if any equity.And they'll try to herd the rest into some post WWII style low priced but heavily restricted so-called "condos".Of course nobody will buy into such a scheme which is what the TA,local politicians and rent regulation lobbyists want.Brookfield will finance the purchase in a sweetheart deal that delivers the community,still majority rent regulated,to the aforementioned political cabal.Long time residents who've paid six figures in rent with dreams of participating in a typical conversion,with a low priced offering and lots of equity can kiss those dreams goodbye.The conversion is a political deal rather than a financial deal meant to benefit residents.So,expect the politicians to get what they want,no matter how much opportunity it denies thousands of residents.


Stuy Town Reporter said...

I think there's a very good chance this guy will be caught. Too much on camera for someone not to recognize him.

Anonymous said...

"Hellacious" indeed. For once Compass Rock advertisement is honest.

Anonymous said...

20 year olds coming home at 4 in the morning is bound to attract guys like this to PCVST whether or not she is a student. If she is a student this is NYU's fault for offering housing in a residential community no matter how compliant with State regs campus security is that they duped the PCVST community to pay for. The young women, neighbors in her building, all students and the whole community is at risk because of the city council approved housing scheme for their NYU buddies.

Anonymous said...

"I always refuse to let them in, just as I always refuse to let other people with no key cards into the building. Unfortunately, there is always some lame-brained putz who, a few minutes later, will let them in as they exit or enter the building. It's pretty much a lost cause here"

Agree 100%. I used to be the same way as you and have had several confrontations with individuals trying to gain entry. Then some lame brain leaving or coming lets them in after my confrontation. more. Couldn't give two shits about anything around here anymore.

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:30 AM said: "An assessment of the property price needs to be redone before we buy."

It is highly likely that Fortress will take over here and I seriously doubt that they will sell apartments to tenants. I think that, ultimately, they are after the LAND. Eventually, they will start to take down the existing buildings and replace them with tall towers.

In any event, Stuyvesant Town was recently reappraised for a higher price:

Anonymous said...

Everyone should go to the community meeting at the 13th precinct on 22nd street - its less than an hour long - and it is for people to ask anything they want to know of the security, the police, the safety, any issue.

Anonymous said...

Always report crimes and suspicious activity to the police 911 FIRST before you call campus security. 911 and NYPD alert campus security but campus security doesn't always alert NYPD. Campus security priorities are PR of the property stakeholders first and safety of the residents second. Not all security guards are on board with these priorities - some security guards actually care about resident safety but the administration sets the priorities putting PR and Profit before Safety. Putting tracking of tenants for eviction over tracking of non-resident foot traffic. Blame the administrators of Campus security and not all the guards. Some guards are really good people.

Anonymous said...

>>there have been other assaults in recent years . . . but they have gone unreported (in spite of the bictim's and neighbors' attempts to publicize) because management did not want the bad publicity<<

7:36 PM, could you elaborate? Did the victims report the assaults to the police? To the newspapers? What did management do to thwart the victims' and neighbors' attempts to publicize these assualts? How many assualts have there been that have been unreported, and when did they happen?

Anonymous said...

"7:36 will the victim and neighbors tell their story now if we can get it publicized?"

It happened a few years ago when MetLife was priming the property for a sale. I think that Rose Associates was managing then. The people involved have moved out. We put flyers in the elevators and lobby, but they were ripped down as fast as we put them up and T&V refused to print the story for some unknown reason.

Remember that it was under the stewardship of Adam Rose (second time around) that crimes committed in STPCV were reported as taking place in Gramercy.

Anonymous said...

Is DeBlasio really telling tourists to come over here? What a total asshole! No wonder the Airbnb business is so brisk.

I swear, this guy is as stupid as he is tall. Definitely a one-term mayor. If Bloomberg and Quinn hadn't been so loathsome, he wouldn't have stood a chance. He is just plain stupid.

OT, but why are we, the taxpayers, paying for his wife to have an office and staff? I don't remember voting for her. At least Quinn didn't stick us with her wife!

Anonymous said...

Yes the Mayor lists Stuy Town Oval as a tourist destination

And he lists Stuy Town as a City Park destination for Christmas Tree Mulching

If we are a City owned Park then why can't our open spaces be protected with the same protections as the City Parks? (reference the West Village lawsuit for more info on this)

And why can't we have the same city deal as Penn South so our residents are protected and can keep their homes?

Anonymous said...

Time to get the truth out

and not the REBNY Town & Village spin of deceit

Anonymous said...

"OT, but why are we, the taxpayers, paying for his [de Blasio's] wife to have an office and staff? I don't remember voting for her. At least Quinn didn't stick us with her wife!

Hello, are you not aware that Donna Hanover had responsibilities and no doubt a staff as first lady until Giuliani kicked her out? Do you not know that the president's wife has offices and a staff in the White House? We didn't vote for them either.

Anonymous said...

We are in peter cooper. Every day for the past ten years I've watched someone hold the door open for strangers with NO key or key card. No one gives a darn no matter how many times you tell them not to do so. IF MANAGEMENT GAVE A RATS ASS THEY'D PUT HUGE SIGNS ON EACH AND EVERY DOOR TELLING AHOLE TENANTS NOT TO DO THIS. They want us to get raped & robbed.

Anonymous said...

Terrace door hooked open and unattended today while someone unloaded a U-Haul van with transient crap. So much for our stellar Campus Security that we pay through the nose for. Thanks TA for letting them get away with the MCIs for shit. Just took a handshake with Dan, right?

Anonymous said...

DeBlassio is just the latest version of a Tammany Hall hack.

Anonymous said...

Both terrace doors hooked open and unattended, always in my building. Come one, come all. Nobody cares about anything around here anymore, and neither do I. Hopeless!

Tommyboyardee said...

Probably lost in the fanfare, the suspect was described as a aggressive towards women, who just got a job delivering food for a local restaurant.