Here's a small sample of what I saw. (And, yes, photo 2 is of a doggie bag with dog shit inside that someone placed on the stairway at the 20 St. Loop.)
We all know, of course, that the walkways (with their many cracks, gouges, holes) are waiting to be fixed when the passage of time will allow an MCI can be charged for it, but it's disgraceful that the stewards of this property keep it in such condition and that no one is compelling this job to get done now, MCIs be damned.
As to the dog shit, it really is all over the place and increasing month by month.
This is not luxury living, but slum living for white folks who don't know better. Wake up, everyone, and see our projects for what they are and how badly they are maintained by CWCapital and CompassRock! So what, you have an Ice Rink! (That only a couple of hundred tenants at most use.) So what, you have a "cafe" at the Oval that serves overpriced lukewarm coffee and still can't make peanut butter & jelly sandwiches! So what, you feel safe because the people around you are not minorities! Demand more of the rent check you pay every month!
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STR, some of the projects are better looked after than this place. Also, minorities are not necessarily less safe than white folk. I'm a little surprised at the way you worded your post.
Management will never come out of their new bunker. They've made First Avenue pretty from the L train to the renting office, and it's not much further to the employees' entrance. Public Safety seems to have been made responsible for every conceivable problem other than fixing the plumbing. Bottom line is that there is no meaningful, effective, or competent management. We need to deliver the shit to where it belongs--the new management office. Yeah, let's scoop it and drop it there.
Well put.
Oh that's nothing. It gets much worse. Many days there are terd bombs all over Pcv and disgusting. - kind of matches the quality of the people living here now.
Worst this winter than others. Hate this!!!
>>I'm a little surprised at the way you worded your post.<<
Let me make things clearer, then. The dirty little secret of STPCV is that it is primarily a white community (now with an Asian student population) and that most of the white renters here are at ease living here because it is NOT a community with a sizable minority (ie, black or Hispanic) population. I'll go further, most white renters here who are oblivious to the project-nature of this complex would change their view if there were a sizable minority population. And I bet that a good number of "New Stabilizers" would leave if such a minority population turned up.
CWCapital, and the others before them, had PCV gates locked during the summer when minority kids would leave the Asser Levy pool, so that these kids wouldn't go through Peter Cooper and, presumably, Stuy Town.
Oh that is truly despicable locking the gates on those kids.
On another topic, all those posting the loud parties when you report to 311 be sure to give them the first and last name of your loud neighbor and not jut the apartment number. Include the names of the loud people in every report.
I think I understand what you mean, STR. This place is very much like the projects. My apartment is so cold you could hang meat and I have to use space heaters all the time. If a large minority population moved in, they would probably be blamed for the low QOL and white tenants would feel that it had gone down because of them!
I can confirm...I used to see the 23rd St gates locked in the afternoon during the summer and often wondered why.
5 31 - We're giving names now? No joke I had no idea. Id be doing this every weekend - 311 has to phoned in as far as I know.
"CWCapital, and the others before them, had PCV gates locked during the summer when minority kids would leave the Asser Levy pool, so that these kids wouldn't go through Peter Cooper and, presumably, Stuy Town." @ 5:19PM
I see nothing wrong with preventing trespassing and protecting your property as much as you can. I live near these gates. I am all for controlling access to the property. Our playgrounds can get very over-crowded, not to mention the added problem with security, cleanliness and general maintenance of the place when you have outsiders dropping in to picnic, sunbathe, play, etc. Bad enough with the current resident population.
By the way, it's not just "minority kids" that cut through PCV, since more than just "minority kids" go to the Asser Levy pool.
Other places are very vigilant all year round when safeguarding their property, Waterside Plaza next door for instance. On this issue, I am with management.
Posting on Yelp might get their attention.
Well this is what dog owners want STR. If you think that there is anything clean people can do about it I'm all ears.....
Those are seriously unsafe walkways! After Mr Sullivan left the property operations have become seriously unsafe. We need Mr Sullivan back. Who is the asshole who took his place and is causing these dangerous conditions, no heat, cracked walkways, brown water, windows don't work, seriously the operations of this place have become slumlordish and this property has deteriorated. We need Mr Sullivan back and this asshole who took his place should be fired and the operations investigated. Anyone know the name of the head of property management operations who replaced Sean?
>>I see nothing wrong with preventing trespassing and protecting your property as much as you can.<<
Yet, I was told officially, ST/PCV is "public access."
cont'd....
To repeat STR's call, where are the lawmakers protecting tenants?
They are very busy passing laws in record time for REBNY!
Part 2
We know REBNY wanted a law passed to screw people buying condos after people were wiped out by banks in the 2008 crash. In record time, REBNY passed the house in 2013 and gave thanks to Schumer / Maloney pushing through federal government in 2014. RE has record growth sales and profit years with lawmakers passing laws to further aid REBNY business interests and worse, take away protections from people who are still struggling from the 2008 crash.
"ILSA, originally passed in 1969 to protect customers from being fraudulently sold property due to misleading advertising,... However, following the real estate market crash in 2008, buyers were able to take advantage of a loophole in ILSA which allowed them to back out of pre-crash contracts."
http://www.rew-online.com/2015/01/14/hard-work-paying-off-with-real-estate-victories-in-government/
http://www.rebny.com/content/rebny/en/newsroom/press-releases/2014/REBNY_Celebrates_Senate_Vote_to_Approve_ILSA_Reform.html
A person, condo buyer, used a loophole as a SAFETY NET after banks/business interests wiped out the economy / people in 2008 and lawmakers immediately jumped into action to remove the safety net. No wonder people are still struggling but business is flourishing.
A loophole used as a safety net by a person is stopped by lawmakers whereas a loophole used by developers in assaults on PCVST is met with Dan's infamous words "it's legal"
"In March, 2014, Senators Charles Schumer, Heller and Gillibrand introduced S.2101, which is an identical companion bill to H.R. 2600. The Senate last night passed the measure by unanimous consent. H.R.2600 was introduced by Congressmembers Carolyn Maloney, Michael Grimm, Jerrold Nadler, and Patrick McHenry, last year, and was unanimously passed by the House on September 26, 2013 by a 410-0 vote under suspension of the rules. Thanks to Senator Chuck Schumer and his tireless dedication,..."
REBNY runs government and "NY is a real estate town" (spinola). They could have passed laws to protect tenants during foreclosure but didn't. Didn't protect people renting or buying. Lawmakers passed laws to protect BUSINESS interests of REBNY only.
Reread Dan's letter, he will stop at nothing for his business interest, "nobody is going to shut us out of this process."
Helluva threat purposefully written by a team of PR, lawyers, allies that make it clear priority is business interests in purchase process with zero consideration for people struggling through years of acts that have put the community and property in peril with thousands evicted from their homes.
We don't need a new TA yet. We can achieve a lot more individually and quislings double crossing us want a "new TA" battle eg Marsh's condescending letter to tenants calling for debate to those challenging the financial and quality of life assaults on us. That battle will only take away resources from the real battle, protecting our homes and community.
We are hardworking people with limited time and we are not stupid like they treat us. We could focus on getting best results for ourselves because no one else is prioritizing us tenants.
Fighting individual overcharges, reporting hazardous safety and quality of life conditions, will help us more and collectively will go further.
Again, I urge people to take a look at the area just north of the fountain in PCV. It's been turned into a giant dog run. Most of the grass is dead. It's been turned into a giant eyesore.
All this dog shit really poses a public health issue. Throughout the city it's one thing for people on any given block to have dogs and curb them. This way the shit is not on the sidewalks & grassy areas, and though disgusting, at least it's spread out. But here, the shit is on the walkways & grass and instead of being spread out, the dogs are concentrated within the confines of ST and PCV in the same places.
Maybe when enough toddlers start tripping and falling face down into some of this crap, there will be more public concern. Otherwise, dog owners couldn't give a shit. Only their dogs do.
As part of one the conditions of PCVST being built back in the 1940’s, PCVST is considered private property but with public access. That is why ANYONE can walk through the property and sit at a bench (however, they cannot use the playgrounds), notwithstanding the rather racial component of closing access to PCV at the 23rd street entry/exit points during the summer months when the Asser Levy pool is open. BTW, the road exit point on Avenue C in PCV is always open.
As far as Mr. Sean Sullivan, the so called “former Marine” (I could not find any evidence for this on line) is concerned, I was at the Community Center meeting where Mr. Sullivan was caught in several lies by his Chief of Public Safety, William McClellan. These lies were a denial that any felonies (property stolen) had been committed by the independent intercom contractors in PCV. McClellan then duly noted that no, that was not correct, there was at least two felonies reported. Also during the meeting, a senior couple, the husband was in a wheelchair, were berated by Sullivan while they tried to get answer of when one of the PCV elevators damaged by Sandy would be fixed. He treated every tenant at the meeting with condescending behavior and disgust. He came to talk about Shakespeare, thought his audience would be a bunch of docile seniors but he was quickly out his league. He was fired but not to worry, he received a very generous golden parachute and like the typical corporate scum in this country these days, he was soon able to land safely somewhere else. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
The T&V link of the meeting, reported by Maria Rocha-Buschel, is a softball version of what actually occurred at the meeting. It was brutal.
http://town-village.com/2013/05/10/resident-town-hall-gets-heated/
“David Sorise, senior vice president of CompassRock Real Estate, has since taken over day-to-day operations in the community.”
http://town-village.com/2013/06/20/stuy-town-general-manager-sean-sullivan-replaced/
Another CR empty suit. The level of evil in these upper management CR/CWC people is very high.
http://www.compassrock.com/management-team/
MR got duped royally.
People everywhere across NY are speaking out on the internet because we are being abused by these greedy landlords. STR we hope they are not threatening you with lawsuits because you speak truth and let us comment with truth.
http://nypost.com/2014/11/16/co-op-sues-to-shush-web-site/
It is public access for tax exemptions and private property for construction purposes. The city let's them call it public access so landlords can pay less taxes and the city let's landlords call it private property when landlords want to develop open space. This city administration will even rewrite zoning for landlords to put businesses on residential zones on private property that attracts the public and advertise those attractions on city websites to tourists.
Closing Peter Cooper gates is an egregious, repugnant, offensive terrible thing to do to those kids at Asser Levy.
STR IS RIGHT.
I am an on-property dog owner and I'm disgusted by the amount of dog poop in PCV and by the behavior of some (not all) owners. I have been yelled at by people who walk their dog off leash when we steer clear of them. Or when I don't take my dog into the no dog areas. Come on! Everybody does it! I now walk my dog off-property. City streets are cleaner. People are nicer. I really don't understand how management doesn't have a dog enforcement squad. With the amount of fines it could dole out it would pay for itself.
STR, you should post a warning: "Graphic Images" before you post photographs of either dog shit or Rob Speyer, especially Rob Speyer.
I have to remember not to look at your blog while I'm on my lunch break!
2 05 pm. hahaha. The manager doesn't want revenue from fines or to clean up. THEY WANT US TO LEAVE.
Never any bad press or news or speaking out against st or Pcv, CWC or CR. Odd isn't it?
Not enough people post on yelp. they come here to complain, yet won't go and post on yelp.
Rename this place PigStuy Town.
January 19, 2015 at 9:42 AM Please. Start a blog.
Our lawmakers are OWNED by REBNY. WE NEED A PURGE that would be a credit to a colonoscopy of all the incumbent lawmakers.
I'd rather see photos of dog shit than photos of Robbie Speyer's hideously evil face.
"I urge people to take a look at the area just north of the fountain in PCV. It's been turned into a giant dog run. Most of the grass is dead. It's been turned into a giant eyesore.
All this dog shit really poses a public health issue."
It's not just the open area that's a disaster. People have taken to climbing over the fence to let their little yappers frolic in the grass near the 23rd St. fence. My building faces that area and I called PS this week to complain. Nothing will satisfy these dog owners--give them a big space and they need more. To hell with anyone who doesn't want to listen to their barking dogs all afternoon. (Not to mention the barker across the hall from me, which can be heard in the apartment upstairs too.)
As for public health, a woman named Fran Lee was instrumental in getting the pooper scooper law passed. Her NY Times obituary said:
"At the behest of a New York doctor, Ms. Lee took up the cause of dog waste. In the early '70s she founded Children Before Dogs, a group whose aim was the elimination of all such waste from city streets. As she explained often in interviews, Toxocara canis, a tiny roundworm found in dog feces, poses health risks, especially to children. At its most severe, it can cause blindness.
"In staunch contrarian fashion, Ms. Lee initially fought the city's plan to enact a pooper- scooper law. By her lights, such laws were far too lenient. In the world of which she dreamed, no dog would be allowed to besmirch the city's streets for even a moment: instead, it would attend to its affairs at home, on newspaper, before padding outside. She envisioned, as she told The Times in 1972, a battalion of city "poodle maids," who would prowl New York issuing summonses to the masters of dog offenders."
And finally, there's nothing like celebrating MLK Day by informing PS in the booth on 22nd St. that a used condom is caught in the bushes along with other debris.
Hazmat suit, anyone? Could be the new neighborhood fashion statement.
If this dog shit problem is really as widespread as you document, I would recommend making a Sanitation complaint. They have an enforcement unit that will actually come to the property to observe. Here's an online link.
http://www1.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/service/1535/dog-or-animal-waste-complaint
The gate opposite Asser Levy has been a means of egress for vehicular traffic too. Many times, including once this month, I've come almost literally nose to nose with a car coming in from this gate…. since I walk looking at the ground these days, it comes as a shock to meet a car where it is not supposed to be. Drivers come down the service road and sneak into PCV from this gate; there is never a security person for me to flag down. By the time I can make a phone call, the car is gone.
Not too long ago, a car pulled up and a group of people starting unpacking picnic stuff as well as a grill, right onto the grass just off the PCV road (near the fountain). .. and almost within sight of the main security booth! A resident leaned out the window and informed the "visitors" that that sort of thing was not allowed in PCV.
Private property, public access, etc.etc… maybe they should come back some day soon, who knows, maybe it's ok after all!
Some dog owners are good neighbors and pick up after their dogs. Some are not good neighbors and leave the mess behind. Just like some neighbors are considerate of others when it comes to noise and some are not. Our neighbors on one side are considerate and on the other side are rude and noisy.
With people you can't lump them all together but you can lump the dogs together it is never their fault. We are a good dog owner, pick up after him, have rugs covering the floor, and someone to look after him when we work so he isn't alone, scared and barking all day.
Being part of the dog owner community, I have noticed those same people who leave the mess behind or make a lot of noise are inconsiderate in general, in all aspects. Just blanketly selfish people to their neighbors and to those friends and family living within their apartments who don't pick up after themselves or care much beyond themselves.
Please try not to lump us all together. Some dog owners are considerate, some students are quiet, the rest are giving everyone else a bad name.
THIS PLACE SUCKS!!
Dogs DO NOT belong here. PERIOD!!
Some, maybe even most owners do pick up. Unfortunately, even if they do, they have no way of knowing if the feces are going to leave a smear behind. That's why dogs shouldn't be crapping on the pathways at all. That's why dogs are supposed to be curbed. A curb is not in the middle of where people have to walk. If your dog crapped in your apartment, would you leave the residue behind? If the answer is yes, no more needs to be said.
"With people you can't lump them all together but you can lump the dogs together it is never their fault. We are a good dog owner, pick up after him, have rugs covering the floor, and someone to look after him when we work so he isn't alone, scared and barking all day."
Do you carry around a jug of water and a rag when you walk your dog to clean up the shit smear as well? I didn't think so. Also, how exactly do you pick up your dog's piss? How does that work?
The Real Stuyvesant Town Shit Storm
What lessons can we learn?
1. Derivative transactions cost taxpayers a fortune. But bankers are plunging back into that business, so we get another chance to bail them out.
2. It’s okay for Tishman-Speyer and BlackRock to walk away from their mortgages. It’s not okay for homeowners to walk away from their mortgages, even in states where there are no deficiency judgments.
3. It’s okay for government-sponsored entities to buy junk CMBSs so Wachovia and Tishman-Speyer and BlackRock Realty can make money. Helping homeowners creates moral hazard.
I’m sure Ben Bernanke and the other true-believing free marketers will explain why this all makes sense.
http://firedoglake.com/2010/01/27/in-stuyvesant-town-fannie-mae-freddie-mac-staring-at-another-lehman-brothers-loser/
No one indicted. No one went to jail. No one protecting us. No one stopping them from doing it again.
First i will state this, shame on you dog owners who don't pick up!
Now I state I often see 2 groundskeepers very early in the morning (8am), 1 dragging a large green refuse can, making noise as they walking along, another with a pick-up apparatus. Between the 2 they chase down errant garbage only! CW also has a mobile watering tank so they water the most unnecessary planters on 15th street & 1st avenue.
Now I understand your rage regarding dog poop and photo documentation borders on the surreal. Again I recall Officer Opie from Alice's Restaurant, whereas we have more people reporting the crime, documenting it, complaining about and more. I'm pretty sure if we put our heads together we can solve this world epidemic. Issue fines, shame the offenders, etc. . Just do something!
Don't most buildings clean their grounds and isn't that the law? Clean grounds, walkways, sidewalks, 6 inches into the street are the responsibility of the property owner, yes?
"No one indicted. No one went to jail. No one protecting us. No one stopping them from doing it again."
Blackstone is buying up the homes that people lost when the housing bubble burst. They are buying them en masse and renting them, probably to the same people who lost them. Talk about "double-dipping!"
We know that the these people (Blackstone, TS, et al) have absolutely no morals whatsoever. The fact that they are allowed to get away with their crimes is a stain on our country and our lousy government.
More like "Puke All Over The Place Town and Peter Pooper Village" to me.
Paying market rate, HERE? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Does anyone know if the porters get transferred or moved around? Our current is horrible, mean and cannot be trusted.
"Paying market rate, HERE? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!"
It does boggle the mind doesn't it? It really is one hell of a rental market when people are paying $3300-$3700 for a one bedroom in the sty (peter cooper apts are even more). It's such a dumpy, dirty place with no enforcement of QOL rules. How does it feel market raters, to hear the farts, phone rings, coughing, etc. coming from the apartment next to you as if it were in YOUR apartment? I'm paying less than half market rate and shit man I feel like I'm getting ripped off. Yeah, Yeah, don't worry I AM leaving as soon as feasible.
"'m paying less than half market rate and shit man I feel like I'm getting ripped off."
I can relate to that! We don't even have heat!
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