From the TA Facebook. Thomas:
"This evening, at about 10:15 pm, I was walking through the Oval from
14th Street to 20th Street. I observed three young men, obviously
drunk, harassing a young woman who was walking in front of them. One of
the men made a sexually aggressive comment to her, and she quickly
hurried away. I can only imagine how frightened she must have been.
"I confronted the men and told them that that behavior was not
appropriate. They became belligerent, defended their indefensible behavior, and started to verbally harass me.
"I then saw a public security officer patrolling and told him what I had
just witnessed. He basically dismissed me, and then actually passed by
the three men, and did absolutely nothing. Yup - nothing.
"I
am so disappointed that, in this era of increasingly-common sexual
assaults, including some here in Stuy Town, that the officer apparently
had no problem with what I had just reported. He was completely
uninterested in what I had told him, and didn't even stop to take any
report. He mumbled something and kept walking. Shameful."
There could be another view, but...
125 comments:
This does not surprise me. What does surprise me is that the writer even saw an officer walking through the development at that hour. When I walk through at night I never see them, you would think that they would be walking around the property during the late hours. From what I can see, the public safety force here is told to look the other way and not get involved.
As someone said on a different thread: Public Safety are just window dressing.
I know what I would do, but I probably would not last too long here.
Obviously, you have to be calm and get reports, if you can, from all the parties. Then, depending on the reports, you start the process of firing, which can take some time.
Enough of this bullshit, btw. But be calm about it. Yes.
Has anyone else noticed the increased smell of marijuana in the hallways?
I had to close the windows in my apartment to stop the smell from entering from the OUTSIDE. This place is out of control! OUT OF CONTROL!!!
There was a time when a couple of drunken frat boys would have been dealt with by PS. They probably can't throw them off the property because they no doubt live here! But the PS guy could have showed a bit more spine. Young women (and older women) should be able to walk through the property, probably on their way home) without being subjected to sexual harassment by drunken assholes. I believe there are laws pertaining to such behavior.
I was at my doctor's office last week for an annual check-up. He is a professor of surgery at NYU and used to live in PCV many years ago. He asked me if I still lived in Stuyvesant Town and when I said I did, he said he had heard that it was a really terrible place now because it had been pretty much converted into a dorm. I said it isn't terrible, but it's getting there! He made some comment to the effect that he had heard from many people that it is really a very badly run dorm with no supervision and that the owners didn't interfere so long as they got the rent! I said it's not THAT bad, but he just shook his head and said he'd heard otherwise. Now I don't think I will admit to living in ST any more! It's embarrassing!
As a member and an administrator of the Tenants FB Page, I responded to the poster to tell him to forget about contacting the property manager and go direct via email to McClellan, cc Hayduk. And to contact the T&V as well. You reap what you sow. As I posted at the Tenants FB page on that thread:
“It seems impossible for a human being to care this much about recreation, to care this much about celebrating something so tiny, so contrived, but that is why he is alive. He will come, he will see, he will conquer. He will vomit out the window of a taxi. He is the American Bro.”
“Being flagrantly offensive, irritating people, making noise, commanding an audience—this is what fuels him; this is his required voltage. He is on the phone with someone named Ryan or Tyler or Kyle; he is saying "c**t" or "n****r" or "slut" out loud, then half-apologizing to no one in particular. "I GOT NO FILTER, BRO."
http://www.vice.com/read/this-american-bro-an-ethological-study
I haven't told anyone we live in Stuypcv since the real gramercy residents told us it's a ghetto dorm and the only thing they take care of in terms of maintenance is flowers and trees!!!!! I am embarrassed to tell them now i am still here.
To 11.17 AM:
This is what PCVST (and the EV and the LES as well) has become. This is the demo they now market to. Thousands of them. The “flower” of NYU. If you live in PCV, it’s not as bad, but here in “Sty” Town, we are a dorm with zero supervision. BTW, if this behavior happened in a NYU dorm, they most likely would have been expelled. The NYU/Parson/New School classes began on 9/6/16. The first weekend following the start of classes is usually the worst. I am hoping against hope that this incident will be a tipping point.
http://www.nyu.edu/students/student-information-and-resources/housing-and-dining/on-campus-living/residence-hall-policies/judicial-information/judicial-handbook.html
Rick has to fire at some time. I'd also change the rules. Gasp!
Sorry, no bicycle riding on the property, for one. Yeah, you heard me right: no bicycle riding, period. Just like the good ole days. Also: Throw those skateboards out if you are an adult, and if you are a kid, how about no riding in the Oval?
How about no smelly zambonis, either. Gasp again!
Yeah, Rick, how about making this property safe and usable for regular pedestrians again?
Or is that too hard core?
And I even had my bacon yet!
If this does not confirm that we are now officially a dorm dump, I don't know what else will.
"Transportation Service to/from Stuyvesant Town Mon-Thurs During the Morning Period."
http://www.nyu.edu/life/travel-and-transportation/university-transportation/routes-and-schedules/route-c.html
I highly recommend purchasing and reading “Priced Out” (published in 2016), there are two chapters devoted what the authors call “The Studentification” of PCVST.
https://www.amazon.com/Priced-Out-Stuyvesant-Middle-Class-Neighborhoods/dp/1479818631/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473697317&sr=8-1&keywords=priced+out+book
As management will say they don't purposefully go after the student crowd, but can't stop them turning up at the leasing door.
I do have to say I like the Asian females coming in, though I don't know what they (generality) are like as neighbors.
"Has anyone else noticed the increased smell of marijuana in the hallways?
I had to close the windows in my apartment to stop the smell from entering from the OUTSIDE. This place is out of control! OUT OF CONTROL!!!"
Besides a NYU violation, it is also a PCVST lease violation:
http://www.nyu.edu/students/student-information-and-resources/housing-and-dining/on-campus-living/residence-hall-policies/judicial-information/judicial-handbook.html
By now, management has to like families as they, the families, provide stability to this complex. One would assume.
I think young women should carry mace or pepper spray when they walk through the property alone at night. It used to be that you only had to fear the predators off the property, now it's gone the other way. PS are really here just for show and to make the parents of the undergrads feel better about letting their kids live here. They are a pretty toothless and ballsless bunch and they probably don't get paid enough to be otherwise. The speeding bikes, zambonis, drunken frat assholes are what Sty Town is now. I doubt that Hayduk has the cojones or smarts to clean it up. He's like the mommy of a bratty nasty kid who says "Darling, that's not nice behavior. Please be nice." Meanwhile the kid is creating havoc and damage to everything within its reach.
Welcome to: P.(pot-heads) C.(call girls) V.(vomit) S.(stinks) T.(transients.)
"By now, management has to like families as they, the families, provide stability to this complex. One would assume."
STR, management doesn't like families because they don't churn the apartments. Management does not want stability. Management wants an ever-increasing flow of shekels, which means an ever-increasing turnover of tenants. Management is working very hard to convert this from being a family-friendly residential property to being an anything goes giant dorm.
"As management will say they don't purposefully go after the student crowd, but can't stop them turning up at the leasing door."
They can adjust this (see below). But they won't.From Chapter 7 of "Priced Out", the chapter name being "The Kids Are All Right?"
“The minimum guarantor income required in Stuyvesant Town is lower than the standard criteria for the average Manhattan apartment, another feature that draws in students and their parents. Stuyvesant Town only requires that the lessees make thirty times the monthly rent (as opposed to forty), and it only requires that guarantors earn fifty times the month rent (as opposed to eighty) “.
Again, I highly recommend this book for anyone who posts here.
Like families? you jest. they hate us.
By now these families should be providing some sort of stability being market rate. Market rate can go up only so much before it gets ridiculous. I think that the threshold has been met by many families. I am just guessing, however, and it is possible the "preferential" rent can go up even higher. I don't think so, but I could be wrong. This is another thing the TA should be doing: Seeing if market rate apartments are maxed out and how many such apartments are in the complex. And, yeah, I know we are all rent-stabilized, but let the politicians gloat about that.
We all know PS officers who don't do their job and these are the ones that should be fired, unless the orders come from higher up. If the orders come from higher up, then those higher people should be fired. Firing workers, no matter their status, is not a crime. This place has got to get serious.
Unless this place doesn't really want to get serious, which is a major problem and something we should be aware of. Then a lot of it is bull and for show.
I've been dejected on this issue now and again, but this is it with the new management. Either they are serious and begin acting as such, or they are just bs-ing except for the extraordinary event.
The problem with social media is that things can be portrayed in a way that is not always accurate. It was my daughter who was allegedly "spoken to in a unacceptable manner." What the onlookers did not know is that my daughter is friends with these boys--they are all life long residents--born and raised in ST. They were returning from watching Sunday football. Was their behavior inappropriate; yes but there was NEVER a moment where anyone was in danger. I was horrified to see this posting on the TA facebook page today, as was my daughter. The Security Officer knows all of them since they were kids. Although I truly appreciate the fact that the gentleman was looking out for the safety of my daughter, stories need to be verified before posting--especially pictures. Two sides to every story, folks!
"And, yeah, I know we are all rent-stabilized, but let the politicians gloat about that."
ALL renovated apartments here loose their NYS RS protections effective 6/2020. If you think it sucks now, wait till then.
http://www.nyshcr.org/Rent/FactSheets/
http://www.nyshcr.org/Rent/FactSheets/orafac1.pd
http://www.nyshcr.org/Rent/FactSheets/orafac3.pdf
http://www.nyshcr.org/Rent/FactSheets/orafac4.pdf
Although Compass Rock was a horrible landlord, at least they didn't hide behind a benevolent pro-tenant façade as Blackstone does. I can't stand their fake PR anymore. Who are they kidding? They are encouraging this place to be a crappy dorm/hotel dump no matter what they say. I can't stand seeing the suitcases, u-hauls, and frat kids anymore. They are equally as bad as Compass Rock.
Blackstone is the evil empire behind everything and they're just waiting until 2020 to lower the boom on preferential rents. So the key to that strategy is more and more students.
Rick Hayduk is here to put long timers to sleep. Why? Because long timers are the ones most likely to make noise. So Rick is a nice guy. Nice way about him. Tries to make dog owners happy. Most of the dog owners are long timers. And to keep others happy he gets service requests done quickly. Makes everyone happy. Or at least diminishes the volume of the complaining. Has rules but doesn't really enforce them so no one is fined and that keeps most people happy. Definitely keeps students happy. He also gets Garodnick and the TA on his side. It's a good deal for both, all having to do with appearances.
Sooner or later cracks will develop. People are beginning to see that the low income housing and its lottery will be of no value to them. Over time, when the place is close to 1/2 students, more cracks will develop. And by God, when 2020 hits and J-51 benefits run out and aren't renewed, there will be much more than a wake-up call here. AT least for those paying preferential rents. And maybe to others, too, if there is any way possible.
This place is becoming a hell hole!!!! Along with all the problems we discuss, we have the packages in the lobby. Lovely sight as we enter our lobby . Boxes piled up. Fire hazard. Unsightly. Tripping hazard. Well, there is a solution. Take a room on the lower level ( where the laundry room is located in PCV buildings / Terrace level in ST) & Use it for delivery people to drop off packages. Not a complicated issue. Send a letter to residents & to the various delivery services. In PCV we have a huge room on the lower level devoted to contractors doing the renovations. So, I am sure we can find room for the boxes. Problem solved. Not too hard.
@4:43 PM. Don't believe you for one minute! Management Troll!
According to the original poster on fb, the girl was clearly upset. I don't believe that bs about it being whomever's daughter! Probably someone in PS posted that crap. Whatever the truth is, those males were clearly drunk and obnoxious and offensive. Could be home-grown filth, but I tend to think they were students who are dorming here.
Right now there is no rebuttal to the story on the TA or tenant-non TA Facebook. It takes time for there to be, so I'll give it time. The truth will out, as in calmness there is an opportunity for it to come out. We shall see.
If the girl was the poster's daughter, then I'm not surprised they remain anonymous because it shows how much respect she engenders in her male "friends."
Hey, 4:43. You're a troll and a liar. Otherwise, you'd show yourself on the TA site or the non-TA Stuy Town site. Looks like there are 3 sides to every story. Trolls like you.
I do not understand what the parent of the harassed girl is thinking.
Harassment is wrong, frightening, immoral, hateful, woman-hating.
"I know you so I can insult, degrade and verbally abuse you."
Even if this story is true, they are disturbing the peace and acting inappropriately. The public safety officer should have responded. Most of the time you don't even see any walking around at night. What good are they gathered at their station in 2 Oval?
>>Hey, 4:43. You're a troll and a liar. Otherwise, you'd show yourself on the TA site or the non-TA Stuy Town site. Looks like there are 3 sides to every story. Trolls like you.<<
As I said, maybe yes. The TA Facebook and the other one can take a day or so to pass a new person, so....
As I said, we shall see. This story ain't "running away." The truth will out.
Edit of post 7pm comment. My mistake on one word, so redone:
>>What the onlookers did not know is that my daughter is friends with these boys--they are all life long residents--born and raised in ST.<<
I don't care if they are related to the manager himself, so let's move on.
Were they drunk? Was the daughter accepting of the behavior? If so, a different story, but I do not take back what I said about certain PS not doing their job, as I've seen this many times. Have you?
Folks, really...you gotta wake up. The so-called father of the girl comes to the STR site of all places to fix the record. Not the TA site?
Please. 4:43 is nothing but a liar and a troll.
No working cameras in the vicinity of the incident? The cameras we are paying an MCIs for. No, of course not. Just like those phoney cameras didn't record the vicious attack of a little dog by another Why are we paying for this phony shit?
I don't care if that was "your daughter" or not (and I don't believe you, but if you and "your daughter" think there's nothing wrong with that behavior, please verify your story with your actual name)--
regardless, this:
"One of the men made a sexually aggressive comment to her...
I confronted the men and told them that that behavior was not appropriate. They became belligerent, defended their indefensible behavior, and started to verbally harass me"
--is still a problem [and this is the kind of person you associate with? who cares if Security knows them, this is still unacceptable behavior. It's also totally unlikely Security does know them, as how many of these Security guards have been working here for 20 or so years? and are on a first name basis with tenants? Ridiculous]
whether or not the particulars of your story are true, you still have 3 drunk college age guys harassing someone.
public intoxication, open containers, marijuana, verbal harassment--this is what I've personally witnessed from students here.
The marijuana in the hallways does get into the apartments, I've also come home to find my whole room and hallway SATURATED with pot smoke from outside. It gets in the curtains, blankets, everything. I could hotbox my whole apartment if I wanted, but I don't bc I'm not a pot head like certain other tenants seem to be.
You know, since Rick H. took over, I have not seen any changes. Oh wait, I HAVE!
MORE STUDENTS, MORE TRANSIENTS, AND THE INCREASE OF MARIJUANA SMELL. Good job Rick,
keep up the good work. We are all so very proud of you. Glad you live on the property to see what's really going on around here. You will be hearing from me shortly, and I encourage everyone else to do the same!
Wow - My father would protect me to the end, not defend people who sexually harass me.
Though I don't believe this person is the girls father, if so, that is a sad excuse for a parent.
What is the name of the PS officer who walks by and does nothing? That is first class BS. Give his name or info to Rick the one in charge and report him. Or post it here.
Call the NYPD and you might see some results. Trust me.
This "story" is not going away...I hope. Forget this blog, but look at the TA Facebook and the non-TA STPCV blog. I would think Rick has to respond, at least to the TA Facebook, which is fine by me.
Of course, "we are doing something" is an inconclusive response.
Posting in our hallways in stuy to visit the site STUYTOWN blogger so all can see what's going on. This ok with str?
Mr. Rick be quite busy watching the flowers planted and trees trimmed. On any given day you will see him and his focus is that. if it wasn't so sad, you would LYAO.
Wake up Rick. A lot of people are not happy here. You appear to be just like the rest of them.
>>Posting in our hallways in stuy to visit the site STUYTOWN blogger so all can see what's going on. This ok with str?<<
Sure, but it will be taken down eventually.
Mr Rick should be careful where he goes to admire the beautiful trees and flowers (and they are indeed beautifull) because he could get knocked down by a speeding bike, moped or a kidult on a skate board. Many of us are too scared to walk through the property because of those hazards.
Anonymous said at 12:18 AM --is still a problem [and this is the kind of person you associate with? who cares if Security knows them, this is still unacceptable behavior. It's also totally unlikely Security does know them, as how many of these Security guards have been working here for 20 or so years? and are on a first name basis with tenants? Ridiculous]
whether or not the particulars of your story are true, you still have 3 drunk college age guys harassing someone"
AGAIN, THEY ARE NOT COLLEGE STUDENTS!!! WORKING ADULTS!! ENGAGING IN A PRIVATE CONVERSATION ON THEIR WAY HOME!! THERE WAS NO HARRASSMENT; THEY ARE FRIENDS; BORN AND RAISED TOGETHER IN ST!! THERE WAS NO MALICIOUS INTENT!!
We are not a Tale of Two Cities. We are a tale of One City. We are not in it.
http://freewilliamsburg.com/douglas-elliman-rep-70-of-brooklyn-home-sales-going-to-hedge-funds-investors-and-international-buyers/
This is nothing... A couple of days after the NYU furniture trucks arrived to put the dorm rooms together for the upcoming semester, I heard a commotion outside my window. I looked out to see three college aged males being loud and laughing. No big deal so I walked away. While checking on my children I noticed one of the males left and there were 2 now. One held a cake box while the other was turned towards a window on the stoop they were hanging out on. Again no issue except I noticed one of the males had his hands down his pants and seemed to be fondling himself. Ok, I think, to each their own but then I see him pull his pants down to his ankles and he is fully engaged in masturbating right on the stoop just inches from someone's window. At this point i called Public Safety. They brought up that particular building and saw what was happening on their cameras according to the PS officer. However, 15 minutes went by, the males left (the second was acting as a lookout) and PS NEVER bothered to show up. The worst part is the re-decoration of the cake which I am sure someone later ate. Just the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. The real takeaway however is that PS saw this and did nothing. Another neighbor told me he called also when I heard him discussing this in the laundry room. As the mother of several girls it concerns me that PS is so lax in protecting us.
>>AGAIN, THEY ARE NOT COLLEGE STUDENTS!!! WORKING ADULTS!! ENGAGING IN A PRIVATE CONVERSATION ON THEIR WAY HOME!! THERE WAS NO HARRASSMENT; THEY ARE FRIENDS; BORN AND RAISED TOGETHER IN ST!! THERE WAS NO MALICIOUS INTENT!!<<
Again: I don't care who they are.
Also: report this to management, not here. Also sign on to the TA Facebook and the STPCV tenants Facebook (link on the front page here) and report this also.
As I said, the truth will out.
>>PS NEVER bothered to show up<<
Not a surprise. I expect the other blogs to have this info, too.
can't believe anyone still thinks rick intends to enforce anything. he doesn't. and he won't unless he's forced to.
">>PS NEVER bothered to show up<<
Not a surprise. I expect the other blogs to have this info, too."
I've never written on those blogs and the other "older" gentleman who mentioned it in the laundry room, although he was very concerned that he never called the NYPD, would never visit those blogs or this one for that matter, so I don't think it would be on those. I wasn't sure I should put it on here for fear of retaliation but I think people should be made aware. Perhaps I should have called the NYPD...
2:55 PM You should have taken a photo of the jerk jerking off. In fact, I think that what he was doing is something the police should have called for, not PS. They are totally useless. If they caught this on camera, then they should have notified the police. Public lewdness is still a crime and this pervert probably does much worse.
STR,
I don't get 12.49 PM's post. The first paragraph, which is posted for the first time on this thread, agrees with most of the backlash against 4.43 PM's post. The second paragraph, all in upper case, supports the 4.43 PM post.
I do not see the upper case post by itself on this thread anywhere. Is the upper case paragraph at 12.49's post supposed to be ironic?
Confused.
2 55 oH MY . What the ? WHERE, WHO. I would have taken photos and gone viral.
I am the person who wrote the original post on both Facebook pages. The "explanation" offered by 4:43 and 12:49 is absolute BS. Believe me, these three men did NOT know the young woman. No way, no how. They were never with the woman, but entered the property by themselves. They were walking about ten feet BEHIND the woman, and were not with her. After the offensive comment was made, the woman quickly hurried away, in a different direction from where the men went. There was no other interaction or conversation between the men and the woman, and, in fact, the woman never even turned around. When I confronted the men, I specifically asked if they knew the woman, and they answered "No." After public security failed to do anything, the men continued to verbally harass me. I stopped to again tell them their behavior was inappropriate. When I took out my cell phone to take pictures, one of the men removed his football jersey, said he had nothing to do with any of this, and ran away. I did manage to take a picture of the guy who made the comment, and of his friend. The friend kept on saying it was "free speech," and I told him it was criminal harassment. He then said that the police couldn't do anything because there was no complainant, no victim. NEVER ONCE DID HE SAY THAT HE, OR ANY OF HIS FRIENDS, KNEW THE WOMAN. Again, 4:43 and 12:49's "reimagine-ing" of the incident is pure BS.
The posters at 4:43 and 12:49 were probably either the young "men" themselves or one of their parents. I'm glad you took their photographs Mr. Hickey, but you were endangering yourself because they could have assaulted you and taken your phone. Of course, I don't know what you look like or how big you are or how old you are. Scum like that have no boundaries. And you know that that particular PS guy would have run away!
If these guys can be identified maybe the "powers that be" at their colleges should do something about them. They deserve to be kicked out of school, as do the the two with the masturbating on the cake incident. They certainly should not be allowed to continue to live in Stuyvesant Town. We don't need sex offenders and exhibitionists living here where there are children.
Hayduk, if you read this, get of your ass and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. We are not paying rent here to live with this kind of human dreck. And don't give me the spiel about "youthful hi jinks" because that is bullshit. I know many college kids and I know that this is not acceptable behavior.
September 13, 2016 at 2:55 PM: you say this happened a couple of days after the NYU Move-in trucks came by and that you think those guys were moved into NYU dorm units? PS should still have the footage of that lewd and vile act (if they've destroyed it, that is obstruction of justice). You should contact NYU and tell them what happened and if you see those guys again, try to find out which apartment they live in and file an official complaint. PS saw the footage and, as I said, they should still have it. Personally, I think you should have dialed 911. That is disgusting and perverted behavior and these people are certainly not normal. They shouldn't live in a place that houses families with children. In fact, they shouldn't be housed anywhere where decent people live! They must have the same disease as Anthony Weiner.
It's not really funny, but we have an infiltrator, at least one, who is recognizable by his posts. (Or her posts, but I assume the latter.) I get the game, that's why I state let's be calm and see the other STPCV blogs. Management should have you name(s), and if they don't, they soon will. Bad mistake to try to "influence" or "obfuscate" by posting here, where a lot of people are anonymous.
>>You should contact NYU and tell them what happened and if you see those guys again, try to find out which apartment they live in and file an official complaint. PS saw the footage and, as I said, they should still have it. Personally, I think you should have dialed 911.<<
Please note that this new incident does not have any confirmation on the other blogs. We await, just like the "parent" posting.
Meanwhile we do have confirmation with a photo of a drone!
Dear Rick: We have spent millions on the cameras. you have all this on camera.
7:39... Of course, *your* name(s)...
I think this cake story did not happen, but I tell you what, I wouldn't be surprised if it did with the kind of people that are living around here now.
Pure trash!!
Again, I will take my own advice and wait a while. But "we are looking into it," while okay temporarily, is not a good strategy in the long term.
As I have said before, it doesn't take the student tenants to make this place a problem; non-students can also make the situation bad. I've seen it, I've experienced it. Students or non-students, there are people in this complex that make it miserable for everyone. And you don't have to have a lot of these people. What you do have to have is rules that are followed by action. Without action, the rules are meaningless.
I don't expect Rick or management to take any action in response to these incidents. They really do not care as long as they are bringing in the money. I agree with the posters who say that the demographic around here is becoming real trashy. Management has no idea about who lives here anymore and could care less.
I don't understand what the holdup is as far as drones go. If the property is private with public access, then Rick can state in one hour "no drones on the property," and that is it.
Rick who?
I believe the cake story. The woman may not be on facebook or may be nervous about posting the story on facebook because of retaliation. Just because someone posts here anonymously doesn't mean they are not telling the truth.
Now it's drones we're talking about? OY-VEY!
From the TA FB page:
"Latest in ST-PCV. A drone being operated in front of 390 First Avenue at 5pm. Security says that the operator has a permit from management. Seriously?"
The post includes a photo of the drone operator, the drone on the ground and a yellow vested PS officer observing. The shot is of their backs, no facial shot.
How long does it take for Rick (the new general manager) to put the kibosh on drones? "No drones in STPCV." That's it.
Today at the PCV basketball playground a group of approximately 25 middleschool kids entered PC & sat on the benches. They were loud, playing ball on the grass & just being obnoxious. They almost knocked over an elderly woman w/ a walker. Then they almost knocked a toddler over.A few kids entered the playground to play ball. I alerted PS & they arrived in less than 5 minutes. They spoke to the kids & they slowly left the complex. My question is this- Why doesn't PS assign an officer to the his area at dismissal tine??? This has been going on for years. Everyday the kids from the local schools come here to play ball & hang out. This is obviously a safety problem & can be easily resolved. PS is aware of it. So, what gives???? Let's get on the ball. This is an easy & quick fix.
The cake story is true. Wednesday August 24 @ approximately 10:35 PM, east 20th street building on the main floor. Never said it was college students, I said college aged males. I dropped facebook years ago and left the TA many years before that. Not concerned if anyone believes it or not, management knows it happened.
"I agree with the posters who say that the demographic around here is becoming real trashy."
God, yes. so true
to Anonymous @5:50
Please call NYPD for this sort of thing!!! Public exhibitionism and lewd behavior are illegal. Not the aegis of security. Even if NYPD don't show up in time, at least it will go on the record. That is really horrifying.
@5:50 PM: I believe you. I also believe you when you say that PS didn't show up. Maybe the masturbator had finished his business and gone inside the building, but they could have made an effort. If I saw something like that I would videotape it and put it on the internet with no fudging of the face and other anatomical parts!
I would assume that the drone was being used for some type of publicity or advertising photography, or a management approved project of some type (possibly a documentary or student film ?). I don't think the person was flying the drone for sport.
This has become such a nasty, dirty place ever since Tishman Speyer took over and they left their indelible mark of filth, vermin and low class tenants. I don't think it will get better. Unless this management really takes the place seriously and isn't using it as just a money-churning part of the Blackstone portfolio (which is far from stellar, if you Google Blackstone), then we might as well just give up and resign ourselves to living in a doomed project.
people of pc and stuy. take photos of all of this that you see happening on property. take audio.
>>I would assume that the drone was being used for some type of publicity or advertising photography, or a management approved project of some type (possibly a documentary or student film ?). I don't think the person was flying the drone for sport.<<
Good point and possibly true. We need some confirmation, though.
So now we have sighting of rats (the non-human kind) in Stuy Town. I tell you, this place is getting better and better! ... "But it's New York City..."
I think it's definitively time for Rick and one of his famous-by-now emails.
If rules are meant to be broken, this place is one great example. I don't like living here anymore. It's really depressing, but I can't afford to live anywhere
else.
Take photos and audio of speeding bikers, also of speeding golf carts, also of dogs off leash .
What do you expect when eating is permitted on the oval and elsewhere in the complex. In addition, renting to these students and tourists definitely increases the possibility of disgusting vermin. I feel badly for our porter who tries to keep the recycling room reasonably clean. I have seen tenants throwing household food garbage in the receptacles.
MAN ARRESTED FOR PACKAGE THEFT IN STUYVESANT TOWN BUILDING
Police arrested 22-year-old Da Tang for petit larceny inside 271 Avenue C last Tuesday at 1:50 p.m. Witnesses told police that Tang took a package from a mailbox in the building and left with it. Police said that a further investigation revealed that the package didn’t belong to Tang and that he doesn’t know the package’s owner. Tang allegedly claimed that he took the package because its owner doesn’t live at the location. Tang was also charged with possession of stolen property.
FROM TOWN AND VILLAGE
It's really sad that this place has become a really horrible place to live in.
" feel badly for our porter who tries to keep the recycling room reasonably clean. I have seen tenants throwing household food garbage in the receptacles."
I no longer recycle anything. I don't see the point considering the way things are here. I just put everything down the garbage chute because it's all going to the landfill anyway. The recycling program in PCVST is a failure.
I constantly have plumbing issues and for the record i am 1000% bald. last visit - real tiring since the tub is always clogged - i asked the repairman to show me how much hair he was pulling out of snaking it. Globs and globs came out and for the record, they'd been there to do the same 7 weeks ago. my neighbor adjoinging is a one bedroom with 3 girls, or 4, to 5 living in it. One bathroom. this has to stop.
And you know what, management knows exactly what is going on here.
This does not sound like it is a promotional use of a drone. More like using drones to look into tenant apartments and photograph, video tenant apartments in StuyTown and sounds like a matter for the City Councilman and the Tenant Association to fight for protections of Rights of Privacy.
Anyone have a copy of the permit? Who applied for the use, who approved the use, and what does the permit say the use is for? What is the City process for approval of flying around residential zoned windows?
Has anyone called the Councilman's office of the Tenant Association to get a copy of this permit? Fastest way to clear this up is to post the permit on a blog like the Tenant Association blog or a link to the permit on the Councilman's Twitter blog. Where are the councilman and tenant association on the use of drones in this densely packed residential zone?
"Has anyone called the Councilman's office of the Tenant Association to get a copy of this permit? Fastest way to clear this up is to post the permit on a blog like the Tenant Association blog or a link to the permit on the Councilman's Twitter blog. Where are the councilman and tenant association on the use of drones in this densely packed residential zone?"
Expecting any action from the TA or Garodnick is futile. They are so far up management's ass, they would have to be surgically extracted.
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Sorry almost choked to death laughing at that one. The TA or Garodnick doing something for tenants...wow, that is rich...you should go on tour as you are clearly funnier than most of today's comics.
here is a better joke. expecting honest fair answers and help from DHCR. Corrupt!!!!
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I see that drone coming ANYWHERE near my apartment, and I swear I'll shoot that thing down.
If I see that drone, I'll photograph it and call the FAA and the press.
Any update on the initial story here? I'm guessing not since we never heard what McClellan said about the incident.
And to think we were all optimistic that it might get somewhere this time since the coverage was all over Facebook and here. Shows where management and the safety of the tenants (especially females) stands.
I am waiting for something out of the PS or management office about this. As with other things, I wait.
PS has become nothing more than your local college campus cops. No power to do anything (except for a few select campuses), turn their backs to sexual harassment (look at UNC story from last week), etc.
A prey population has been brought in, either deliberately or inadvertently.
Hordes of young women. Most seem oblivious of their surroundings. Lots of skin on parade. Too often drunk or drugged or both.
Predators will descend. We've seen incidents over the last 2 years.
No surprise.
Of course there is no followup by Rick and Blackstone---And the loops continue to be devoid of safety officers after dark. What use are they congregating together during the day chatting with the ladies.
Thank the management, the newest and the latest not greatest at all for all this. They are far worse than Rose, Tishman and you will all agree soon.
The entire post, thread and photos have disappeared from the TA fb page!
Mr., Hickey, did you take down your post on the TA Facebook or were you censored?
I have confirmation that it's not the TA. This leaves Mr. Hickey or someone else, high up. Right now I'm assuming the former but AFTER he has "talked" with management or the chief of PS, who represents management, which can be persuasive. I will post about this once it is more clear.
Apparently it is NOT Mr. Hickey.
If it's not Mr Hickey and not the TA, who has access to delete posts from both accounts? This is not something that the head of PS would have the power to do. Hell, even Blackstone wouldn't have the power to get FB to remove something.
It's gotta be Mr Hickey, which males me have even more questions!!
Must be Management or PS who took it down (or ordered it taken down). I hope they are not harassing Mr. Hickey.
It's not Hickey. Facebook can be difficult at times. The mystery still exists, but I think we shall find the answer.
You get what you pay for. If a PSO were to enter a skirmish would s/he even get Workman's Comp?
You want calm PSOs and you don't want any Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman killings
Looks like S-Town needs to adopt its own "Broken Windows" / "Stop and Frisk" policies and practices.
First, look into getting the right PSO contractor in there then get rid of the entire current PSO group especially the cronies.
In the meantime call 911 not your ineffectual PSOs.
I did not remove the posts. I was surprised when I saw that both were removed at about the same time. Nor did the page administrators remove them. The only thing I can think of is that someone reported them as violating Facebook's community standards. Maybe I am not allowed to post pictures accusing people of misbehavior?
That's what I figured after learning a few more things.
Anyway, thank you for trying!
I can understand if it possibly got deleted because of the accusations including their photos, but I really hope this doesn't turn into another case of things being swept under the rug by management and PS.
Management should realize that in this day in age, everything comes out eventually. Look at Penn State, look at Baylor, look at UNC, look at NYU (oh sorry, I mean PCVST).
Of course this got swept under the rug by management. Got some screen shots though and they may go viral........
who removed those photos? I will print them out and post them in every lobby if management keeps removing them.
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