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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. Things like the carpet rule or outsider dogs. These "rules" tend to be ignored, on purpose it seems. So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change, though the "selling" of this place is intense. Few of the "rules" will be enforced, as Management doesn't want to lose customers or potential customers. Where personal integrity is a hallmark of an excellent management style, this integrity is not seen in enforcing some of the rules.

Our Tenants Association is, basically, null and void. Oh, it is still around, but it lacks the will power to confront much of anything. The TA will ask for your dues, however. By now, the TA is a charade.

About those "club cars" we see going this way and that way, and outside of Stuy Town or Peter Cooper Village:

Sunday, July 5, 2009

Learn How to Boil Water for $500

That's right. For $500 (or $450 for Oval Essential members) you can learn how to boil water from Food Network's Danny Boome at Oval Lounge starting August 3. No joke, too. Here's what it says on Danny's website:

Food Network Chef Danny Boome arrives at the Oval Lounge this August to bring his new Essential Cookery School to the residents of Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village. From boiling water to using fresh herbs, this 5-week course (10 lessons) will arm you with the philosophy, techniques and confidence you need to succeed in your kitchen.

Date: The course begins Monday, August 3 and runs every Monday and Wednesday through September 3.
Time: 7:00 – 9:00pm
Cost: $450 for Oval Members; $500 for non-members.

Reserve your place now through the Oval Amenities Office or on

Let's start saving now for this golden opportunity. Thank you, Jerry and Rob Speyer!!!

[Hat tip to Lois Aida at Lux Living's Blog.]


Anonymous said...

Boil water ?? pffffft... If they're not going to teach me how to fry or saute water, I'm simply not interested.

Anonymous said...

Boil water???
How about walking on water?-with guest host The Lord Mayor(for life) Bloomberg

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Anonymous said...

looks like jerry and rob's IT people are doing a test to implant a virus on all our computers

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Anonymous said...

Is the water included in the cost of the lessons? If so, is it the brown Stuyvesant Town water or will they be using clean water (from any fawcett OUTSIDE of Stuyvesant Town) or will it be Deer Park or Poland Spring water purchased from Associated? Also, is the cost of the gas going through the gas stove included or will they be metering it? What about the cooking pots and pans? Are they provided or do we have to bring our own? I heard that for a token fee of $65 per person they would loan a pan to each person who signed up, but for rent stabilized tenants it would be considered a Major Capital Improvement and would add an extra $15 per room prorated to October 2006 when Tishman Speyer took over the property at a horrendously over the top price of $5.4 billion. We have to help them recoup, folks, so don't complain if the cost of lessons to boil an egg or make a cup of tea is approximately $9,450.00 per person per apartment.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure you're right, Anonymous. I think we should baptize Robbie in whatever water they use -- I hope Stuy Town brown! I'm sure lots of people will volunteer to help immerse him. They'll probably never let him back up though. Tsk tsk.