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Monday, May 7, 2012

Playground 10


55 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-01-11/news/100-most-powerless-new-yorkers/5/

The 100 Most Powerless New Yorkers

43. Tenants of Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village

For decades, Stuy Town was one of the few harbors of middle-class living in Manhattan. When Met Life's public-private partnership was finished with the city, the complex was sold in the biggest residential real estate transaction in the history of the United States. When Tishman Speyer wasn't able to evict all the rent-stabilized tenants they'd hoped to and quickly make a profit, they walked away from the property in 2010 to avoid bankruptcy. Ever since, the 25,000 tenants of the development have been in a bizarre limbo while dealing with a holding company and looking into going co-op in some fashion.

Anonymous said...

Amazing no communication about why this playground is not open yet. The silence on what is happening to the Oval Amenities programs is deafening as well.

Both this playground (as a playground and the ice skating rink) and Oval Amenities have been great for building community and interacting with our neighbors - it is a shame that someone from Rose, American Leisure or CW Capital can't simply provide some information.

Although speculation can be much more fun....

Anonymous said...

FUTURE SITE OF 7-11. With a drive thru for BIKES AND cars.


woooohoooooo

Anonymous said...

I asked one of the Oval Recreation staff about PG 10. He said that they are having it resurfaced. And that there is a problem with the contractor who is doing the resurfacing. I find it confusing that the PG must be closed while they wait for this to be resolved.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they'll build more doll house booths for public safety.

Fed Up Tenant (the original) said...

https://twitter.com/#!/PCVSTLiving/status/199156920488169472/photo/1

Here's Management via Twitter telling the ENTIRE WORLD
that the Greenmarket is back on the Oval. Open to residents and guests only? I think not. It's time for tenants to go to the Building Department and ask why and how it approved "accessory use" for the Greenmarket.

Anonymous said...

I also heard from an extremely reliable source that the playground was going to be resurfaced because the rink had compacted the rubber base. Apparently, they come in with a machine that essentially grinds up the base and re-lays it. I guess they take out the turf before they do this and then put it back. Honestly, I thought that they already did this in the weeks after the rink was removed, but apparently not. The explanation from the Rec sounds logical.

Anonymous said...

"I asked one of the Oval Recreation staff about PG 10. He said that they are having it resurfaced."

Look. These things take time. A lot of time. Just think how long it is taking for our quality of life to resurface!

I personally think it has drowned a watery death but, still, I keep on waiting...

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>I also heard from an extremely reliable source that the playground was going to be resurfaced because the rink had compacted the rubber base.<<

It seems certain that the ice rink negatively impacted Playground 10, which now hasn't been used as a free playground in OVER six months.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

BTW, a note that posts that overdo their passion or that make serious accusations without proof or make satirical observations that some could take to be serious (yes, that happens) are going to have a hard time getting through.

Anonymous said...

If this in fact true Andy Mac's Winter Wonderland destroyed Playground 10, is there anything to prevent him from destroying another? The ice skating rink cost big bucks. Does he have a blank check to do what ever he wants?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Perhaps, just perhaps, Stuy Town wasn't built to accommodate these entertainments. Just as the acoustics at the Oval bounce around the noise--sorry, "music"--of the summer concerts around the complex.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, nice try on the amenities. I guess the owners are trying to grab attention and spruce up for a sale?

but, wth happened to this scenario in regards to PCV? a mess of tall weeds and no attempt at gardening it. LOL Why do they ignore pcv? Makes no sense.

Anonymous said...

"Why do they ignore pcv? Makes no sense."

Because they are not aggressively marketing that part of the property to the pressure wall demographic. The huge turnover is in ST and they are like rats on a treadmill.

Anonymous said...

By former standards PCV is really a disgrace. The lawns haven't been cut once. There are weeds that are now actually knee high. All kinds of weeds are taking over the lawns. Bare spots all over the large areas. Other smaller areas completely bare. Just a mess.

Anonymous said...

I don't know which plants are attracting them but there are fire ants by this playground. There were groundskeepers spraying the area down tonight.

Tommyboyadee said...

It is truly amazing how many sub-contractors run this place. Do they plan on bringing the rink back? If so then why bother de-compressing? Regarding the Green Market, after unloading their "greens" where did the trucks go? Or where they parked illegally on the loops. The grass is appearing behind the newly fenced area behind the rental office (back door), looks good & was fast. Trying not to be grumpy about things.

TURNDOWNTHEMUSIC said...

Lo and behold weeds (no grass here) getting cut today at PCV. 8 am.

Lmao

Anonymous said...

The problem here now is that EVERYTHING is about surface glitz and marketing. Management could really care less about keeping the buildings clean (they blame the probem on bad porters!), giving us washers and dryers that work well, repainting/refreshing the shabby hallways or replacing the ugly, awful carpeting here in Stuyvesant Town. And why they even bother to say they have rules is beyond me when they enforce almost none of them, at tenants expense. What you are seeing and experiencing here is the 1% controlling and destroying the 99%. Very sad to see this place go so far down hill from what it used to be.

Anonymous said...

"Management could really care less"

I think you mean management COULDN'T care less, and I certainly agree

Anonymous said...

of course they don't fix washers, dryers, floors and interior of the flats.

Why should they? It's not like the 'tour' will takes you there!

Anonymous said...

I think PG 10 would be a perfect location for a nice pool.... what do others think?

Anonymous said...

The tour guides tell people the washers will text you when the load is done. They don't mention the machines spin for 15 minutes during the last minute. They don't mention how clothes come out smelling moldy because the machine doors need to be left open. They don't mention the machines are cacked with detergent and bleach because they're rarely clean or how most of the machines sit broken for days because tenants don't understand THEY need to report them to Mac Gray.

Shall I go on???

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>I think PG 10 would be a perfect location for a nice pool.... what do others think?<<

It will happen, eventually. With diving boards from the Oval buildings nearby.

Anonymous said...

Are they considering a pool? That would be the absolute best, (no saracasm)

Anonymous said...

Jury finds 'Parking Punch' man guilty of misdemeanor assault

By LAURA ITALIANO

Last Updated: 1:13 PM, May 8, 2012

Posted: 12:19 PM, May 8, 2012
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A Manhattan jury has acquitted Oscar Fuller — the muscle-bound "Parking Punch" electrician -- of felony assault for punching a woman into a coma during an argument over an East 14th St. parking spot in February, 2011 —

But the same jury convicted Fuller of misdemeanor assault, for which he could serve up to one year in jail.

The surprise verdict comes despite the grave, life-threatening injuries suffered by Fuller's victim, petite Lana Rosas, 25, who was in a coma for nine days, and hospitalized for months following the literal, knockout punch.

Prosecutors said they will ask Fuller be jailed when he is sentenced June 13.
Steven Hirsch
Oscar Fuller.

Rosas is still struggling with brain injuries, unable to work or drive, and her life revolves around her therapy sessions, her mother, Angie Harrison, has told The Post.

"It's a slow process," Harrison said. "A slow, steady improvement."

This afternoon, as the verdict came in, Harrison listened grimly from her seat in the audience, then left without commenting to reporters.

The verdict ends what was actually a retrial of Fuller; a previous jury was hung by a single, pro-acquittal deadlocker last November.

Fuller had been described by witnesses as twisting his body back in winding up for his punch, which sent the not-quite-5-foot woman airborne before she fell back, striking the back of her head on the pavement.

Fuller then sped away in his minivan as the woman lay unconscious in the street, blood pouring from her mouth and nose.

"She just literally landed like a sack of potatoes," Alex Rivas, 24, testified last week.

Fuller has maintained that while he did strike the woman, he never could have foreseen that the punch would cause serious physical injury.

This time around, defense lawyer Thomas Kenniff used prosecution medical witnesses to stress to jurors that Rosas had suffered no facial injuries. It wasn't the punch that injured her, he'd argued. Instead, it was her unforeseen forceful fall onto the pavement that cracked the back of her skull.

"We were really able to emphasize through the District Attorney's own witnesses that this punch really couldn't have been as hard as they said, because she didn't have any superficial facial injuries," he said.

"The injuries occurred when she fell back and struck her head."

To convict of felony assault, jurors would have had to find that he intended to cause serious physical injury when he wound up and struck the woman. The standard for a misdemeanor assault conviction is lower -- jurors only have to find that he intended to cause any physical injury.

In finding him guilty of misdemeanor assault today, jurors rejected a self-defense claim by Fuller.

Witnesses had agreed that Rosas was belligerent and yelling at Fuller in the moments before the punch.

Fuller had claimed that she also struck him, an account not substantiated on video.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/jurors_reach_verdict_in_parking_1P8cjsvCzmRbTWfA9NKNzK#ixzz1uJ1wmzla

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Are they considering a pool? That would be the absolute best, (no saracasm)<<

I suggested a pool a while ago, but it was with sarcasm. Yet I wouldn't put it beyond the powers that be to eventually install one. After all, this astro-turf playground, used by a lot of residents and their children for free, is just wasted space that can be commercialized. For residents and their guests, of course.

Anonymous said...

I think a pool would be a great addition to the complex and i'm sure residents and their children would benefit from it as much, if not more than an empty rectangle with astroturf. However, as STR points out, we KNOW this won't be for free and there will be plenty of swimmers, divers, waders from all over the place coming to use a facility meant for " residents and guests".

We need to convert to take control of our activities, amenities etc... take control of our communnity and spend money on things that WE want!

Anonymous said...

The Oval looks like a botanical garden now. I'm ok with it. I think it looks pretty good. However, that graveled area in front of playground 12 has to go. Completely agree that this is no place to have a green market. Is that area to be improved? Is it just for the green market? In any case, the decision to put the green market there is absurd. Not only in bad taste. It's just plain stupid. The sidewalk along a loop could have worked. The green market in the East Village runs along a sidewalk. Why not here?

Mulch, trees and shrubs seem to be the answer in Stuy Town. Less constant maintenance like grass. Works nicely in small spaces. But PCV has larger open spaces. If CW is spiffing up for the bankers, it better do something about PCV. Bankers won't like what they see there.

Anonymous said...

Yes, the greenmarket does not belong in the Oval and it would be better to situate ir on the exterior public sidewalks, the perimeter service roads or even Asser Levy or Stuyvesant Cove by Solar 1. But alas, that is not in the CW/Rose marketing program and, make no mistake about it, all of these Oval atrocities are about matketing the property to the young and restless. Take a look at the grownyc website - all of the other green markets are in parks or on puclic sidewalks.

Anonymous said...

The landscaping condition of PCV is a disgrace!

Anonymous said...

"Are they considering a pool? That would be the absolute best, (no saracasm)"

Yes. That's what we really need. An East Village bacteria frappe.

Anonymous said...

"... residents and their children would benefit from it as much, if not more than an empty rectangle with astroturf."

Did you ever observe Playground 10 when it was open? If you did, I don't know how you can say it was/is an empty rectangle with astroturf. Astroturf, yes. Empty, no. That playground was always alive and vibrant with kids playing, every day, 7 days a week. We do not need a swimming pool in the space. A swimming pool would cost "management" even more in insurance and maintenance than even their stupid ice rink did. Do you know how much time, money and work goes into maintaining a pool in order for it to be safe and hygienic? No, I didn't think so.
I am sick of people trying to turn ST into Disneyworld and I'm sick of "management" scraping the pot in order to extract every dime out of the once-beautiful grounds in order to attract new tenants, while at the same time the buildings are filthy, the laundry rooms suck and the general quality of life with noisy transients and their bedbugs makes life miserable for those of who are paying rent to live here. "Management" needs to get its priorities in order.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>That playground was always alive and vibrant with kids playing, every day, 7 days a week.<<

Agreed. Playground 10 has been one of the most frequented of playgrounds. And, excepting the ice rink, free.

Anonymous said...

I am trying to find financial records for the STPCVTA. Generally, NPOs file a form 990 and those forms can be found here:

http://www.eri-nonprofit-salaries.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=NPO.Search

I can't find anything for them and there is no information on their website regarding their financial reporting. Does anyone know where this information can be found?

Anonymous said...

"I don't know which plants are attracting them but there are fire ants by this playground."

My daughter was bit twice. I notified a security officer and he looked at my husband and I like we were crazy.

Tommyboyardee said...

Why a pool, we have sprinklers! I have also spotted tenants and their registered guests wading in the fountain. Suggestions are getting out of hand. Unless you are suggesting a beer garden.

Anonymous said...

Yeah!!

a beer garden with a 24/7 oom-pah band!!!!

Anonymous said...

12:32--I kind of like that idea!

TURNDOWN THE MUSIC said...

Ita. If we're going to whore out the oval, take space away from the kids and the seniors, it might as well be a beer garden. Much better than a bank, cvs or 7 11.

Tommyboyardee said...

Beer Garden it is, I hope the powers that be are listening. BTW are you listening TA! The people have spoken!

Anonymous said...

Maybe they're planning to put in a cute little strip mall.

Anonymous said...

I miss the old Stuypcv so much. What a shame. It was so nice when I first saw it. I was IN SHOCK. could not believe this existed in NYC.

Such a shame.

Anonymous said...

If we are going for the beer garden, we will need to build a vomitorium next to it as well. I know, the vomitorium as a place for Romans to throw after too much food and drink is a myth but hey, once you market to the Frat Boys, why not go all the way.

Anonymous said...

Our recycling area has been so nice and clean all day today (I've been in and out of the laundry room most of the day, unfortunately). I just saw a young woman go in there and put a big oozing, smelly black bag full of garbage right into the recycling bin. Not even the garbage bin beside it, but the actual plastics/metals garbage bin. Are these people really that stupid or is this malice?

Anonymous said...

Ah, the frat boys. Yes, they'll be daily guests at the beer hall. How nice. Drink, drink, puke, have your bf carry you to your quad, i mean, oval address.

Just think of the possibilities.............

Anonymous said...

Do you know what plantain is? No...the weed variety.
Broad leaf weed that grows in clusters. Go over to PCV & you'll see it's being cultivated. When the green market opens, CW & Rose will probably harvest it and try to make some extra cash.

Anonymous said...

I think the oval needs a Walmart. It would be the only one in the city. People would come here from all 5 boroughs. CW and Rose would bring in more people than any concert and keep them coming back.The TA could hand out flyers at the door and market Brookfield to them, maybe collect some donations to pay their expenses. The pro commercialization people could buy their fresh produce there as Walmart purchases locally. Its a win-win-win!

Tommyboyardee said...

I feel my Beer Garden suggestion is being mocked, it is a "garden" and thereby GREEN! Please remember you don't own beer........you rent it!

Anonymous said...

Walmart. yes. pump up the rentroll. What do we charge them to be here?

40k a month or so? we could convert the parking garage into a Walmart only parking garage. Charge $14 an hour , discounted for 2 hours. Deliveries for the Walmart could back up through the playground with the clock on it (tear it down). I'm getting very excited.

Anonymous said...

they ripped out all the astro turf.


I wish management would inform everyone as to the status of playground 10.

They're obviously too busy setting up mini golf weekend planned for playground 9.

For residents and their guests ONLY!

Anonymous said...

Dammit. I loved the astroturf. What a bunch of morons.

Anonymous said...

They are bringing all the astro turf to cover the weeds and bare spots in PCV.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Not to worry! PCV is scheduled for a spruce up!

Anonymous said...

PCV is way overdue. Kathy Deutsch is busy planting and replanting cabbages and flowers (pansies are the latest) under the trees in the little island on First Avenue near the security booth, but everyplace else is completely neglected. She just doesn't get that you have to maintain what you have to keep the place looking good.