I eyed the crowds, and I'd say there were no more than 300 people present, at best. A lot were spread out, in picnic style. I thought the atmosphere was terrible, and left after I made my survey and took photos.
Surprise, surprise, but IDs were checked. Not by Public Safety, but by an outside security force. But, get this, one card holder could have 4 "guests," so all people had to do was ask someone going in with a STPCV ID to accept them as a guest.
Wondering How to Get In?
A lot of younger people had drinks in their hands, and I bet not apple or grape juice. No one checked. People who couldn't get in (or were trying to enjoy the Oval--good luck!) were sitting along the benches around the Oval. The Oval Cafe was packed.
Aside from the outside security force, NYPD was also present!
A costly event.
Meanwhile basements in Peter Cooper Village lacking in washers and dryers have received used ones in stark, ripped to the bone basements that look as if they are from a HOSTEL film or some Russian contamination unit. Careful when you go down there!
Stairs from Main leading to the basement. Dear Lord!!!
Wall near elevator
Close-up of wall. Unbelievable!
Another wall. Or is it the firing wall where prisoners were once lined up?
Your washer and dryer, Ladies and Gentlemen.
Your folding table. Could be easily employed as a Gulag interrogation table.
Do not even dare to enter!
And be glad you even have this, because as CWCapital/CompassRock has informed tenants that these "services" do not need to be provided. So aren't you glad about the priorities of where money is spent here?
(PCV photos thanks to a concerned resident.)
(PCV photos thanks to a concerned resident.)
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Thank, Dan DoNoGoodnik.
You're a real champion of what's right.
That was one of the more obnoxiously loud and ugly-sounding events they have ever had. I called 311, but it did no good. The noise persisted until 6 pm and seemed to just get louder. Even the dogs were howling from the din. This is an outrageous violation of the zoning laws and Garodnick, et al can go fuck themselves next time they want my vote.
I live in Stuy Town. While I've been reading about the poor conditions in some PCV buildings, I didn't realize they looked like that. It looks terrible. To think they have a huge concert but can't use the money to expedite the repair is a freaking travesty. This place is getting worse and worse every day.
We live in 19 Oval. That damn concert was louder than anything that has ever been done in the past. Things were vibrating on the wall. I cannot believe they are not in violation of noise ordinances in New York City.
WHO IN THETE RIGHT MIND WOUKD TAKE THEIR DIRTY CLOTHES DOWN TO ANDREW MACARTHURS UNDERGROUND TORTURE CHAMBER AKA THE " LAUNDRY ROOM". LOOKS LIKE WHERE YOU GO TO KILL AND DISMEMBER A BODY NO THSNK UOU ILL CONTINUE TO TSKE MY CLOTHES TO THE LAUNRAMAT SO ON TOP OF PITT BULL ATTACJS HAVING MY MAIL STOLEN I DON'T HABE TO WORRY ANOUT BEING CHOPPED INTO LITTLE PICES IN MY BADEMENT THISE SICK PEOLE IT'S ANOTHER FORM OF TORTURE MAKING US WALK THROUGH THE PLASTIC SHEET INTO SOME TUPE OF ALIEN AUTOPSY NO THANK YOU ID PREGER TO LIVE S LITTLE VIT LONGER. AND WTF WITH THE CONCERT TODAY MY WHOLE BUILDING VIBRATED SND A OAINTING FELL OFF THE WALL SO SOUL ASYLUM COULD PLAY THEIR GREATES HITS FROM 1934 ANDREW MACARTHUR THE TORTURER WORSE THAN GHADAFFI!!!!!
I don't know if CAPS is for real or a parody account, but I'm now reading just for him.
Signed,
Left PCV in March and so glad I did
I could hear the noise while standing on Peter Cooper Road.
Maybe the TA could organize a street fair and concert in front of MacArthur's residence in Brooklyn.
Things must be pretty bad with Security if they need to have NYPD and a private security force to check IDs. Someone should research who owns the private security opeation and see who they know in this crap operation.
And what about the asbestos work in those basements. Way back in time, shortly after the storm, the CW bozos said there were no asbestos issues.
You hear about these substandard rooms and laundry facilities but when you see them... Wow!
When can we get th AG or some regulator agency to look into how these clowns are wasting money on crap whilst leaving the buildings as slims?
WOW IS RIGHT WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD EVER STEP FOOTNIN THESE TORTURE CHAMBERS WITHOUT FEAR OF BEINF MUDRERED IT'S LIKE THE SET OF A SNUFF FILM AND THY HVEBTHE NERVEVTOBSAY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THESE? ANDREW MACARTHURVAND SEAN SULLIVANN ARE UNBELIEVLE. THIS IS HOW THEY MANAGE A PROPERTY? THIS IS AN EXAMPLEMOF THE YEARS OF EXPERTISE THEY BRING TO THE TABLE THEY ARE A F---ING JOKE I HOPE THE BOND HOLDERS ARE WATCHING THIS AND THEY THINK OF THEIR WIVES OR THEIR DAUGHTERS PAYING MARKET RATE RENT SOMEWHERE AND HAVING TO USE THIS SUBSTANDARD LAUNDRY ROOM IN THE BOWELS OF A CRYPT!!! WELL DONE MACARTHUR THE CRYPT KEEPER!!!
A discreet asbestos notice was placed in the glass case in the lobby. It consists of a diagram of the basement with the asbestos removal area circled. No official notice posted, no notice that removal was completed. But, hey, the machines are free.
Did you see the new murals inside Oval Kids?
Theme: Angular aggressive shapes & colors,
poor kids...
So everyone spent weeks bemoaning this event and 300 people showed up ????
I think CWC just gave us all th equivalent of an internet "wedgie".
see, here is the thing about Manhattan. and we all know this....
No matter what we say, do , protest, there are no apartments nearly the size being offered by stuytown on teh entire island, for the price they offer AND NO MOVE IN FEE.
you do the math people.... ain't going to change. Ask the dogs.
The poor turnout was most likely due to the bad weather leading up to the concert. Soul Aslyum should be embarrassed to have played here, especially when Dave Pirner told the audience to stop by the leasing office. If this conert was really for residents, why would he be telling the to visit the leasing office? Hmmmm. How much did CWCaptial pay them for their appearance? The funds would have been better allocated towards laundry rooms.
>>Dave Pirner told the audience to stop by the leasing office<<
Did he really say that or is that a joke someone posted?
"A discreet asbestos notice was placed in the glass case in the lobby. It consists of a diagram of the basement with the asbestos removal area circled. No official notice posted, no notice that removal was completed. But, hey, the machines are free."
That notice has been in my building for a month. There is a red line around the entire basement indicating where they plan to perform abatement.
How can it be safe for residents at the same time?
http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/NY-New-York-Stuyvesant-Town-1674079.html
No, he REALLY said that! Scouts honor!
The temporary laundry rooms are clearly a reaction to the reduction in services complaint filed by the TA. In fact, one might see the outlines of management's response to that complaint in their opening sentences stating that machines were available in other buildings.
It seems to me that the reduction in services filing has them concerned.
Sean Sullivan said at the Town Hall all the elevators would be back up and running by now. Are they?
I read on the TA Facebook page these washers/driers were filthy. Tenants had to clean them before using them.
They show nothing but contempt for us. Evil f***s.
HAS ANYONR BEEN SEEN WALKING OUT OF ANDREW MACARTHURS LAUNDRY CRYPT AFTER WALKING IN ??? I'VE SEEN DOCENTSRIES ABOUT PEOPLE BEING HELD AGAINST THIER WILL WHILE TORTURE AND UNSPEAKABLE ACT HAVE BEEN PERFORMED ON THEM USUALLY IN CROATIA AND THIS IS WHAT TH ROOMS LOOK LIKE. INSULTING AND REPULSIVE AN ENTIRE BUILDING WITH 100 APARTMENTS IS EXPECTED TO SHARE THESE TWO MACHINES ARE YOU F------ KIDDING ME. WHO S HANDY WORK IS THIS MONSTER MACARTHUR OR VAMPIRE SULLIVAN WHERE HE'S BEEN RECENTLY HOME SCRUBBING HIS TEETH???
He did say it. I don't post jokes.
There are six machines in all in my building. The photo shows only two. Love the way they left the label on the table.
The problem with this event was the timing. Most of the people who would have gone (myself included) were at Governor's Ball this weekend. Had they made it next weekend there would have been better attendance.
The problem with with this event is that it was a loud noisy piece of crap smack dab in the center of a residential area.
http://escapestuytown.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/stuy-town-blames-sandy-for-landscaping/
Complete BULLSHIT to blame Sandy for the decimation of the plants and flowers around the Oval.
Coming home from shopping today , I passed a large pile of shit on the first ave loop and thought what I always think when I see that: about how nice things used to be around here years ago. Anyway, I get home and get the "community newsletter" under my door and saw two things of note. The first is that they are moving the management to the concierge area and expect work to be completed during Spring of 2014. Does this sound like a company that is getting ready to sell the property? For the purposes of full disclosure I always have been very pro conversion and felt that it was going to happen but can anyone really be optimistic at this point? I could imagine how CW must have been laughing to themselves watching all these TA meetings treating the conversion as a done deal and watching us hash out all the possible managerial options we would have once we were owners. The problem that I have personally is that without ownership, I'll never leave this place because I won't give up my apartment. I will never give them the satisfaction. I'll keep paying my real RS rent. As an owner, I probably would sell eventually and escape.
Another thing in the newsletter I found interesting was their response to dog owners wanting better signage as far as where dogs are allowed (or not). Has anyone ever seen and dog owners concerned that their dog may be pissing or crapping in an area they weren't allowed to? What is more unbelievable is that CW actually appears to be amenable to the idea of a dog run. They just "haven't yet identified the right space". It just keeps getting better and better.
"Complete BULLSHIT to blame Sandy for the decimation of the plants and flowers around the Oval."
Sandy has been to CW/Compass Crock what 9/11 was to Giuliani - a godsend. It has given them an excuse for everything nefarious they do and carte blanche to rape and pillage the property even more. They can blame Sandy for everything that is caused by their own stupidity, laziness and blood-sucking.
Does anybody know who the bondholders are that CW is beholden to (at our expense)?
Apparently, the U.S. Government via Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac!
If I recall correctly, it's hard to be certain of all the bondholders because the debt was sliced and diced into mortgage-backed securities. You can probably find the answer in Bagli's book. Still waiting to see the NYT report on the rentjacking, BTW.
Bring back Al Doyle! He wouldn't stand for these thing!
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
"Apparently, the U.S. Government via Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac!"
You're kidding! You mean our government backed these blood-sucking bastards?
Q: Does anybody know who the bondholders are that CW is beholden to (at our expense)?
A: No, there are too many of them. See Mortgage-Backed Security (MBS) http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mbs.asp
Why do you ask? Are you gonna mount a protest? Good luck with that. ST-PCVers are good at complaining, but not much else.
Seriously, what makes you think Al Doyle would want to come back? At least the older PC-ST generations knew they had to throw in too to get stuff done. Everybody now apparently expects it to be delivered on a silver platter.
"Why do you ask? Are you gonna mount a protest? Good luck with that. ST-PCVers are good at complaining, but not much else."
And what are you good at, other than making snide remarks?
"Why do you ask? Are you gonna mount a protest? Good luck with that. ST-PCVers are good at complaining, but not much else.
June 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM"
But the fact is that everyone who received a mid-lease increase signed on the dotted line in acceptance. Granted, there might have been some sotto voice promises, but in contract law, you're bound by the 4 corners of the document. Sucks that CW is such a predatory landlord, but I think that a lot of FMR tenants in this position are simply realizing that they agreed to possibility of a rent increase.
ANON at 1028 AM
So true. So many expressed great displeasure with Roberts settlement but after one weekend virtually noone has shown up to protest at leasing office.
Q: And what are you good at, other than making snide remarks?
A: What, do you have a guilty conscience? Mine is perfectly clear.
ANON at 1233 PM
You clearly don't know much about contract law
IVE GOT A DOTTIDD LINE FOR YOU! KISS MY DOTTED A--! EVICITNG 1,300 FAMILIES IN THE KDDLE OF THE SUMMER WITH 60 DYAS NOTICE FAMILIES WHO HAVE TO REGISTER THEIR KIDS IN SCHOOL APARTRMENT HUNT PACK ALL IN 60 DAYS THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF CRUEL AND INHUMANE ABUSE BY MONSTER MACARTHUR AND VAMPIRE SULLIVAN WHO DOES SUCH A THING I ASK WHO DOES SUCH A THING. I THINK THEY SPEND THEIR DAYS SITTING AROUND THINKING OF NEW AND UNUSUAL WAYS TO DRIVE PEOPLE OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY SO THEY CAN FILL IT UP WITH COLLEGE KIDS AND TANSIENTS AND PEOPLE WHO ARENT OLD ENOUGH TO CARE WHAT BAD MANEGEMNT IS LET ALONE KKNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WELL WE KNOW MONSTER MACARTHUR AND I WILL SHUUT IT UNTIL I AM BLUE IN THE FACE FROM THE ROOFS NOT TO RENT HERE BECAUSE OF THE ROTEEN DISGUSTING THINGS YOU TO TO THE FINE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THE FINE PEOPLE WHO KEEP THIS COMMUNITY STABLE WHO WERE HAPPY UNTIL YOU BLOOD SUCKING CREATURS CAME BY AND DECIDED TO TRAT US LIKE A GIANT ATM MACHINE WELL HERE IS MY PIN MONSSTER MACARHUR MY ONE FINGER PIN. I SALUTE YOU
Although FMR tenants signed leases saying the rent could go up in the middle of the lease, giving them 2 weeks to decide what to do about their apartment is just plain cruel (among other things), even if legal. It also does not show professional stewardship of the property, but of course we all know this already.
I KNOW YOUR WOBDEONG WHAT HORRIBLE THING HSPPENED TO ME TODAY I HO TO MY MAIL BIX NOT ONLY ISYNC MAIL TOSSED THE FLOOR BUT DONEONE RIPPED THE MAILBOX DOOR RIGHT OFF THE NIHDGE. YES THAT'S RIGHT I HAVE A CUBBY HOLE INSTEAD IF A NAIL BIX WHAT THE HELL ID GOING ON IN THISPJAGE I CANTCTAKE IT MUCH LONGER ITS AN EVER ENDIBG PSYCKLE OF AVUSE THIS PKACE THE PLAVE MIRE NOTOTIOUD FOR TORTURE WOULD BE GITMO AND I SHOULDN'T GIVE MONSTER MACARTHUR ANY MORE IDEAS ITHERWISE ILL BE UPSIDE DIWN EITH A BAG OVER MY HEAD ANDXWATER POURING OVER ME. I MEAN TORTURE NOT USING HIS NEW LAUNDRY CRYPT THO VOTH EVPERIEJVES ARE SIMILAR
Weren't those mid-lease tenants given an extra 30 days to decide ? I thought it was bumped to July 1. Look, I agree it's a shitty way for the landlord to act, but unless the anon@3:55 PM is filing a motion before a judge to stop it, those tenants have some decisions to make.
It certainly doesn't look like the elected pols are going to do squat about it, does it ?
"Q: And what are you good at, other than making snide remarks?
A: What, do you have a guilty conscience? Mine is perfectly clear."
No, I don't have a guilty conscience. No reason to. I was just asking a question out of curiosity. I was not a party to the Roberts lawsuit. I am a longtime tenant who just wonders who the idiots were who invested in Tishman Speyer/Blackrocks' ill-fated venture.
CAPS, if you really want people to read your rants, then please write in English and punctuate and spell check. You are getting to be a bit ridiculous at this point.
FTR, and happy to say, we don't know anyone here who got the increase/ mid else.
Are there people on the board here who have? You'renot MOVING out are you?
Also would like to add, June 11, 2013 at 4:51 PM, that a number of people have it in writing (from agents in the leasing office) that mgmt would *never* exercise the mid-lease rent hike clause. Not to mention the scores of other concerned lease-holders who were told that to their faces.
They dumped a huge pile of fertilizer directly beneath my window and now my entire apartment smells like hot, steaming feces.
>>CAPS, if you really want people to read your rants, then please write in English and punctuate and spell check. You are getting to be a bit ridiculous at this point<<
I'm assuming that's CAPS' artistic "voice".... I've no problem with it. Do others?
I stopped reading CAPS "artistic voice" after the 2nd rant. I just skip them. Too hard on the eyes to read and to hard on my brain to translate all the misspellings. I get it, but I'd vote to give it a rest. It's not going to impress CW or Andrew McArthur.
It's almost becoming satirical in a way. It detracts from the more rational comments. CAPS needs to take a breather.
"Also would like to add, June 11, 2013 at 4:51 PM, that a number of people have it in writing (from agents in the leasing office) that mgmt would *never* exercise the mid-lease rent hike clause. Not to mention the scores of other concerned lease-holders who were told that to their faces.
June 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM"
So, a letter from the landlord modifying the terms of the lease (a promise to NEVER exercise a clause) and then having the landlord exercise said clause would be a breach of contract.
It would astound me to find out that they would have been that stupid to put such a thing in writing, but if they did, then that person has grounds to sue.
As far as the verbal promises, who has the time and money to fight that battle out in court ? CW will simply say no promises were made, and that everyone claiming that they were are simply jumping on the bandwagon to avoid paying the increase. Not going to happen in the time allotted. Might be grounds for another class action if you want to find a law firm who's looking for another $25++ million dollar payday and will be willing to part with your $150 dollar share of the winnings.
@8:50AM, per your comment:
"Also would like to add, June 11, 2013 at 4:51 PM, that a number of people have it in writing (from agents in the leasing office) that mgmt would *never* exercise the mid-lease rent hike clause. Not to mention the scores of other concerned lease-holders who were told that to their faces."
I'd love to know who the NUMBER of people are. DO you KNOW that for a fact or are you simply repeating rumors that you heard (from reliable sources)? I ask because Dan Garodnick AND the TA are desperate to locate even one or two more of THOSE people who did receive such promises in writing. It's extremely important to the entire issue as well as the execution of the mid-lease increases and their ultimate resolutions.
If you KNOW ANY of these people, please direct them immediately to the TA or Dan's office. If you're merely repeating gossip, albeit well-intentioned, please (and I mean this in the nicest way) shut the fuck up! Thank you.
What porblem? CAPS voicr is gull of passioj and he's winderguk! Who has time fpr Spellcjeck anyway, we're alltoo busy protesying in frony of the Leasinure Office!
No prob at all with CAPS' artistic "voice." Rant on!
If I see all caps I just skip it and read the next post.
"They dumped a huge pile of fertilizer directly beneath my window and now my entire apartment smells like hot, steaming feces."
What, you don't like dogs? you really got problems dog hater!
MY PREDICTIVE TEXT DOESNT ALOATS WORK ON MY PHONE SO YOUL HAVE TO EDAL WITH IT OR NOT READ MY COMMENTNS I WONT LOSE ANY SLEEP BECAUSE I HARDLY GETT ANY SLEEP AROUND HERE BECAUSE I AM SURROUNDED BY DROM ATMENTS AND LEAF BLWEROS AND GRIZZLY MEN WHO SMOKE OOUTSIDE MY WINDOWS AT 7 AM WHILE THEY BUTCHER THE FLLOWRRS AND THEN I HAVE CHILD SCREAMATHON IN THE PLAYGORUND I THINK I AM GOING TO CHECK MYSELF INTO BELLEVENNUE TO GET SOME PIECE AND QUIET!
Just back from 4 hour tour with a local realtor. After seeing lots of ratty walkups, I am starting to think chaining myself to the steam pipe in my stuytown apt may not be such a bad idea. Please send food
I have no problem with CAPS because I simply don't read his/her posts. Waste of time and space. If CAPS is serious in his or her rants they would be presented in a more literate form. Disable the fucking predictive text already!
Add this to the list of PCVST "head scratchers."
Rose is marketing the retail space in the complex. WTF? I thought they got fired so we could have the current bunch of geniuses!
I saw the sign posted in what used to be the Chase bank on 23rd & 1st. It has been empty for over a year now.
Here's the link: http://pcvstretail.com/
Artistic or not;, I can't read it. All caps is awful and difficult to read and so is the horrible grammar.
Not trying to be snarky, but if you want people to read or listen to what you have to say, STOP the bad spelling plus the caps.
Just saying. I stopped reading long ago.
Hmm, I thought CAPS was/is pretty amusing. Just as Lo Rhent was.
"Hmm, I thought CAPS was/is pretty amusing. Just as Lo Rhent was."
I have to agree with STR on this one. I think CAPS has the potential for genius. Perhaps one day he would consider starting and anti CW website, kind of like the old Lux Living? Please??????????????????
CAPS makes me smile. So little else does these days.
CAPS and Lo Rhent are not amusing. They are ignorant and unnecessary - Lo Rhent is also racist and offensive.
"Rose is marketing the retail space in the complex. WTF?"
CompassCrock hasn't yet set up an ad hoc company to rent retail space, so Rose is handling this. It's been reported elsewhere that part of the space is going to be a Starbucks (visuals on Rose retail site), but no sign of work yet. So get a nice hot coffee, jump on a Citi bike, and try not to spill it in your lap. Lawsuit!
"Hmm, I thought CAPS was/is pretty amusing. Just as Lo Rhent was."
Totally disagree, STR. Lo was pithy and witty and an easy read. CAPS is just an hysterical ranter whose style I find unreadable. It's like a 6-year old got on a keyboard that got stuck in caps lock.
I don't care if CAPS rants and raves here. I just ignore his/her posts. It's STR's blog and up to him to decide who can and cannot post.
Over on the TA fb page, there's someone who is always trying to control the content and direction of the discussions. Because there aren't a swarm of people joining in with the protesting outside the leasing office, this person preaches and scolds. Well, as far as I'm concerned it's up to the people with the mid-lease rent hikes to do whatever they are going to do and most of them are probably scrambling to find new homes, schools, etc. Most of us work and just don't have the time to plant ourselves outside the leasing office. We shouldn't have to be scolded and insulted because we can't be there. At least we can come to the STR blog without being preached at! Keep it up CAPS, if that's what helps you and if STR doesn't mind. We all need a place to vent without being lectured about it.
>>Over on the TA fb page, there's someone who is always trying to control the content and direction of the discussions.<<
I very much commend that person for her activity in front of the leasing office, but, yeah, there's a control issue evident. And I strongly suspect this person has posted here trying to control the comments and commentators here likewise.
Over on the TA fb page, there's someone who is always trying to control the content and direction of the discussions.<<
I very much commend that person for her activity in front of the leasing office, but, yeah, there's a control issue evident. And I strongly suspect this person has posted here trying to control the comments and commentators here likewise.
The person you are referring to has chased hundreds from the TA, yet Marsh and Steinberg are too oblivious to get it.
"I very much commend that person for her activity in front of the leasing office, but, yeah, there's a control issue evident. And I strongly suspect this person has posted here trying to control the comments and commentators here likewise."
STR, I also commend that person for her activity at the leasing office, but nobody makes do it and if other people don't want to go that route it is their choice. You can't bully people into doing what you think is the right thing to do. And nobody loves an angry martyr!
I AM the person who has been accused of "controlling" the discussion and scolding. Sorry to bust your bubble, STR, but this is YOUR blog and this page a COMMENT BOARD so the rules & format are yours. I'd never presume to tell someone what to write or post & have seldom even posted here. When I HAVE it's almost always been a point of clarification OR simply an opinion. I believe I'm still entitled to one of those, regardless of what others may state.
Besides, control was never the point, I am more than aware that the rent-jacked among us have little time to protest downstairs. My last post merely instructed whoever wanted to do so (freelance) just how to do it. It ended with a statement of my disappointment, not s scold. There IS a difference. Can't imagine that statement would EVER have been interpreted as a scold unless it made some feel guilty? Then, I guess, if the shoe fits...
For the record, I made the comment at June 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM and it was not directed at people "scrambling to find new homes, schools, etc." I am a he not a she and I don't comment on Tenants Assoc or any Facebook sites. I don't have a Facebook account and never will. It's your blog, you're the guy with the magical powers to control what "comments and commentators here" say, not me dude. I had my say and that's it.
I LOVE CAPS! Hope he/she continues to post whenever they can. Takes my anger to a less dark place.
Never thought of that person as scolding. She just sounds fed up. For all of the complaining on all the STPCV boards it does seem like the same few people are the only ones to do anything about it. Maybe she makes a good point. Mostly I think she offers pretty good advice. Just like with CAPS, if you don't like it, don't read it
>>CAPS and Lo Rhent are not amusing. They are ignorant and unnecessary - Lo Rhent is also racist and offensive.<<
I completely disagree.
I think pretty soon it's going to be time for some Jackie Mason schtick!
I think CAPS is nothing but a troll trying to get some "ink" on this site.
His/her comments are hysterical and irrelevant.
"For the record, I made the comment at June 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM and it was not directed at people "scrambling to find new homes, schools, etc." I am a he not a she and I don't comment on Tenants Assoc or any Facebook sites. I don't have a Facebook account and never will. It's your blog, you're the guy with the magical powers to control what "comments and commentators here" say, not me dude. I had my say and that's it."
Wasn't referring to your post, so calm down.
"The person you are referring to has chased hundreds from the TA, yet Marsh and Steinberg are too oblivious to get it."
Don't think this is the 'fro person you have in mind.
I think the ubiquity of the scold is the biggest problem with her. Make your point once, maybe twice - that's great. Make your point on every other post, every day for weeks, well, it's tiresome. Add the woman who discusses vomiting over the mid-lease increases every third post, when she's not decrying rent stabilization laws she clearly doesn't understand, and the board gets a little monotonous. I find useful information on the board, which is why I keep checking it, but at some point the conversation isn't so much a conversation anymore.
Not that I'd ever suggest stopping, but ever notice how none of this...the TA's actions, TA facebook page, this blog, all the other blogs...nothing has had any effect whatsoever on CW. Zero. Just once...I'd like to see us do something that makes CW come out of its money cave and say or do something in response to something we've fought for and demanded.
Oh Mister STR, many thank for the shout out! Lo always in the house! ;)
Life so hectic today, hardly have time to post special wisdom on your site. Very busy now selling moving box to Roberts victims. When they gone, I start new busyness venture. I sell flashlight to tenant rube so they can find they way home--so many street lite out around here they all walking into grass looking for door!
PCVST land of opportunity! Everybody clean up around here--except janitor.
The RGB met yesterday to discuss rent increases. Was there a representation by the TA? I plan to go to the final one next week. I had to work yesterday.
Now I've noticed the vomiter keeps highjacking all the fb threads. As little as she understands about Rent stabilization laws, she understands less about commenting. If it isn't all about her she highjacks it. That makes the fb page get old pretty fast. Now it looks like she's come over here. Lucky you.
She might ignore CAPS's rants but I love them. Behind all the screaming is a lot of truth. Keep screaming CAPS!
I's like to add that I watched 4children swinging like Tarzan on the hanging branches of 1 tree on the south-east side of the Oval. Public Safety did nothing, even after I told them of the harm the children were doing. The children even argued with me saying that the trees were not alive and could not feel anything. Their parents stood by engrossed in their own conversations.
Anonymous said...
I think the ubiquity of the scold is the biggest problem with her. Make your point once, maybe twice - that's great. Make your point on every other post, every day for weeks, well, it's tiresome. Add the woman who discusses vomiting over the mid-lease increases every third post, when she's not decrying rent stabilization laws she clearly doesn't understand, and the board gets a little monotonous. I find useful information on the board, which is why I keep checking it, but at some point the conversation isn't so much a conversation anymore.
June 13, 2013 at 5:55 PM
I agree with you. I've been reading the TA Facebook page, and it doesn't seem that the moderators are failing to correct a lot of misinformation. The poster I believe you're referring to has been vomiting a lot of bad mojo towards other tenants that they seem to be blaming for their misfortune.
Anonymous said...
Not that I'd ever suggest stopping, but ever notice how none of this...the TA's actions, TA facebook page, this blog, all the other blogs...nothing has had any effect whatsoever on CW. Zero. Just once...I'd like to see us do something that makes CW come out of its money cave and say or do something in response to something we've fought for and demanded.
June 13, 2013 at 10:21 PM
The apathy stems from several things. In the case of the negatively affected FMR tenants, I'd venture to say that the majority are licking their wounds and simply moving on, figuring that they'd be fighting a losing battle in the short term over leases that they agreed to, no matter if they were given false assurances. There's probably not enough time and money to deal with it, plus, think about how many of these lease holders are "dorm" apartments, where the prospect of a $500 or $1000 a month rent increase really means about $100 or $200 a month each when you split it between 4 people. Bet that's what CW is thinking, and really doesn't care if they're effectively evicting families who can't pay, because they'll just carve up the apartments and rent them to college kids.
As far as long time tenants, I'm surprised that there hasn't been more outrage by those affected by the pace of Sandy repairs, but I think most are just happy to be left the hell alone by management, and are grateful that the RS system continues to spare them from such ridiculous rental prices. Those that have lived in ST/PCV for decades can still remember the "all powerful Mother Met", and are often reluctant to show their unhappiness in public. Tenants were pretty much always at the mercy and the benevolence of the landlord. Through the years there was really only one politician (NYS Assemblyman Steve Sanders) who was able to accomplish much with Met. He was a thorn in their side, and partnered with the TA to give it some "bite" in the community. There was obviously more power to be had sitting in the State Chambers than in the City Council, who's leadership (Quinn) is simply a Bloomberg lap dog, held to the same real estate interests. Never forget how Bloomberg pissed on us during the original sale proceedings. I have little doubt that Quinn would do the same.
WHAT TGE HELL IS GOING ON HERE I GO TO CHECK MY MAIL TODAY IN KY CUBBY THEA'S WHAT I CALL IT SINCE SONEONE RIPPED THE DOOR OFF MY MAIL BIX AND NOT ONLY IS MY MAIL ON THE FLOOR BUT A DOG DEEFECATED ON THE LOB FLOOR AND TGETE IS S--- EVERYHWHETE SOME ONE WALKED IN IT WITH A SYROLLER AND THETES BROWM FOOT PRINTS AND WHEEL TRAVKS LEADING RIGHT INTO THE WKEVATOR. WHO DOES THAT IS AND WHERE IS MAINTENABE TO CJEAN THIS UP IM SURE TGE MONSTER MACARTHUR DIESNT HAVE FECES IN HIS LOBBY HIS LOBBY IS ORISTINE I BEDLT HE HAS A DOIR IN HIS MAILBIX I CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE OF THIS HELL HOLE I WILL HE AT THE KEASING IFFICE THUS WERKRBD TELLING THE KIDS SIGNING UP FOR DORMS NOT TO DO IT HECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE TO WALK THROUGH FECES AND BECATTACJEDD BY PIT BULLS RIOAMING THE HALLS LIKE I AM
"The RGB met yesterday to discuss rent increases. Was there a representation by the TA?"
Do you mean did the TA give testimony? Or did someone attend? Anyone can give testimony or attend. Don't leave it to the TA.
"I plan to go to the final one next week. I had to work yesterday."
Excellent. Are you planning to speak? Even if you don't, it helps to have as many angry tenants there as possible. You can tell who they are--they're the ones NOT in the expensive suits.
For anyone who doesn't know, the final hearing takes place at a convenient nearby location--the Great Hall at Cooper Union. Come make a lot of noise in a space where Abraham Lincoln gave a speech. The festivities start at 6 p.m. on Thursday, June 20.
The mayor appoints 5 of the 9 RGB members, and since we've had republican mayors for the last 20 years, the RGB has always come in with fat increases for the landlords.
Maybe I haven't been paying enough attention, but I've yet to hear any of the current crop of democrat mayoral candidates commit to appointing RGB members that are a bit more tenant- friendly than the real estate execs that have sat in for 2 decades now. Or, pushing for the repeal of Urstadt, for that matter.
They all talk the "save the vanishing middle class" talk, but I wanna hear you promise you'll actually DO something about it.
Public testimony was taken at the June 13 RGB meeting. The June 20 meeting is the final vote, there will be no testimonies.
Advocates for tenants and for landlords urge people on their prospective sides to be present to hear the board deliberate (smirky face here) and to show them that this is important to them. You might also want to attend just to send a special farewell to Bloomberg's appointments to the board.
That said, the public testimony meetings of the last 12 years were a sideshow featuring an endless parade of tenants and a few mom and pop landlords from Queens spilling their guts for the board. The real action took place in whatever restaurant that Mayor Bloomberg had lunch with whatever titan of the NYC real estate industry on any particular day.
12 years of Pataki followed by 12 more of Bloomberg have been brutal to tenants. Hopefully we've wised up, but we'll see.
Unless you are a masochist or just love to yell, there is simply no point in going to Rent Guidelines hearings. The result is a foregone conclusion
"Unless you are a masochist or just love to yell, there is simply no point in going to Rent Guidelines hearings. The result is a foregone conclusion"
That's for sure. I want to know which mayoral candidates are committed to championing the strengthening of rent stabilization. Quinn talks out her ass because she is the lapdog of Putinberg.
Have to correct some of what's been just said: All nine members of the RGB are appointed by the mayor. From the RGB website:
"The RGB consists of nine members, all of whom are appointed by the Mayor. Two members are appointed to represent tenant interests. One of these serves a two-year term, and the other a three-year term. Two members are appointed to represent owner interests. Like the tenant members, one serves a two-year term, and the other a three-year term. Five members (including the chairperson) are appointed to represent the general public. One of these serves a two-year term, another a three-year term and two serve four-year terms. The chairperson serves at the pleasure of the Mayor."
People can speak at the final meeting. Showing up and letting the RGB know what you think--in front of the TV cameras--demonstrates that you're willing to fight.
Anyone who wants to know what the next mayor might do should ask at the TA's mayoral forum.
Is the TA sending a representation
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