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Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Required Parking Spaces for ST/PCV Buildings?

I don't have time right now to research this fully, but I believe zoning requires that a certain amount of parking spaces be available to tenants. I was curious about this regarding the new management office being built and the lack of parking spaces in that area now--and certainly for the future.

http://www.tenant.net/Other_Laws/zoning/zonch07.html

44 comments:

Anonymous said...

3 more taken away in front of playground 9 in the service road loop. What the hell is being built in it's place?

Anonymous said...

Screwed over again. Sad but true.

Anonymous said...

I doubt that anything is required beyond what the garages already accommodate. Remember that years ago, there was parking along both curbs of the loops, and along the curb next to playground 10 & 12. Good luck fighting this one.

BTW, my initial comment on the negative impact of putting the management office in this location was the increase of vehicular traffic in and out. It made little impact when it was on Avenue C, but now you're going to have all kinds of vehicles speeding on the sidewalks and loops traveling to the office, right in the middle of an area densely used by kids and adults.

I hate to say this, but the odds are against this being a safe area.

Anonymous said...

Ask the TA they have known about all of this first Ave Loop building over a year ago and agreed with CW to keep it all secret from the residents. This TA has to go away, they are ruining the quality of life for all on the first ave loop and they don't care.

Anonymous said...

MetLife was smart enough to know the Security Office and the Management Office needed to be next to a Garage for safety reasons and for functional reasons. But not these guys.

They put the security office in the Oval center of the pedestrian population and the management office at the point farthest from any of the garages because aesthetically Fortress and Brookfield/TA liked the way it looked there. Of curse that was back when Compass Rock pretended to care about what Brookfield/TA thought.

Anonymous said...

June 18, 2014 at 1:56 PM

It wasn't a secret. I live in one of the buildings directly affected. All of us in the affected buildings were invited by email and by flyers under doors to a meeting the TA arranged for CampusRock to tell us about their plans for a new mgmt office. I went with my wife. About 15 tenants in all bothered to show.

Anonymous said...

Exactly right 1:47.
We and our kids are less safe with this disastrous plan. The TA and the City knew by building offices in Oval and First Ave Loop, away from garages, Safety is a great concern of residents will severely decrease. It is on record. I will try to find out where residents lodged their complaints. They should have never allowed this construction. If anyone is ever injured from the vehicle traffic it cannot be considered an accident because the City and the current TA knew the risks being created by their construction plans.

Anonymous said...

4:45 really, they told you about the parking spaces in your meeting? No they didn't. They kept that secret.

Anonymous said...

"MetLife was smart enough to know the Security Office and the Management Office needed to be next to a Garage for safety reasons and for functional reasons."

They put the offices there because those locations were the least desirable and they knew they wouldn't be able to rent them out. That's why the rental office at one time was all the way east on 14th Street.

MetLife was shortsighted in its planning for parking. Garage space soon became inadequate. PCV doesn't have any garages at all. Parking on Peter Cooper Road is for 30 minutes only.

Anonymous said...

Let's see. You can make up your own parking rules and arrangements on private property but yet it is still a public area where the city can still issue parking tickets and tow your car. It sound like you CAN have your cake and eat it too. NICE!!!!
It is IMPOSSIBLE to get a parking spot on the playground 9 loop.
Along with the fact Beth Israel workers hold spots for each other.
Private property, huh? Again, what a joke!

Anonymous said...

June 18, 2014 at 6:18 PM

There were a lot of questions asked, but I don't recall anyone asking CampusRock about parking. At the second meeting either.

Anonymous said...

Of course not. God forbid anyone being proactive. But who could have seen THIS coming, the elimination of these three parking spots. There is absolutely no place to park around here because NO ONE moves their car, and if they do, they are secretly holding it for someone else.

Anonymous said...

How can we ask about something they don;t bring up. They never said they would be changing the parking on the loop so we never got a chance to ask about it. I certainly would have if I knew this would effect our parking. We still don't know the effect as all we now is what residents see. There is no one telling us what is going on!

Anonymous said...

June 18, 2014 at 6:18 PM

The opportunity to ask about it was there. I don't have a car so it didn't occur to me to ask about losing three parking spaces because I had other concerns and frankly couldn't give two shits about that. Apparently nobody else at the two meetings did either did either. Or maybe I'm not recalling because, like I said, I had other concerns.

The issue of increased electric cart traffic issue may have come up, but I don't recall.

That said, all this shit was approved by the city, it got audited and approved again. There were no secrets and why anyone living in ST or PCV would think that CWCap would bother to share a tip top secret three missing parking spaces scandal with the TA is beyond Tinfoil Hatville. To what end would CWCap bother sharing? They didn't need the TA's cooperation or our approval. All they needed was city approval and they got it.

Anonymous said...

Exactly. There is no one telling us what is going on! Even AFTER it happens. And you know what, I could give two %$#*!%$'s about ANYTHING that goes on around here from now on. I GIVE UP! This place continues to go down the toilet!

Tommyboyardee said...

Let's start with obvious, the safest place within Stuyvesant Town is the Oval, such a obvious showcase of state of the art technology is solely directed at prospective buyers or new renters.
I believe PS can give alternate street summons on the days of street sweeping. Illegally parked cars are a different story. Back in the days of "forever spots" the parking around here wasn't that bad. For most vehicle owner, just make the rules fair and for all, we all know workers have their cars parked along the loops illegally parked with no fear of ticketing or of towing.
Parking in NYC is a sport, a decision to own a car or not, it's not easy, but it's possible.

Anonymous said...

Pretty things up on the outside, and then resell. That's the name of the game.

Anonymous said...

"They didn't need the TA's cooperation or our approval."

They didn't need the TA's approval but they sure did get it. That makes it an even worse betrayal of tenants.

Anonymous said...

Anony 12.47 AM. Thank you for putting some sanity into this tread. I went to the TA PS 40 Management Office meeting, where there was a trilogy of evil of 3 CR/CWC reps and a rep from the DOB (who, BTW, was checking his smart phone a lot). Bottom line, the new Management Office is a horror show but it was a done deal, audited and approved by the DOB. Off topic, it looks like that there is one ray of sunshine coming from the dark world of CWC/CR. There will be no Oval deafening “concerts” this summer, just the usual lame sport (World Cup) and movie cruise ship/hick events that are sparsely attended by the clueless.

Anonymous said...

June 20, 2014 at 10:49 AM

Are you familiar with the serenity prayer? If not, maybe you should be:

"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference."

Nobody on the tenants side, including the TA, has embraced or "approved" the new management office. It's been accepted, reluctantly. There's a big difference.

As June 20, 2014 at 6:17 PM points out, this was a done deal. The TA already has limited time and resources. With all that's going on around here, your idea that they should have been been picking this particular losing battle with our overlords is not a good one.

Anonymous said...

I agree with 10:49. This has safety issues, quality of life issues, financial issues. The office construction should not have been "accepted." This limited time and resources argument doesn't fly. There has not been any of the many battles that needed attending to by the TA since 2010.
10:49 is right and let's leave religion out of this 9:10 AM. This was not a done deal. It was a deal done behind closed doors in 2012 early 2013.

Anonymous said...

"This limited time and resources argument doesn't fly. There has not been any of the many battles that needed attending to by the TA since 2010."

And you were at the PS 40 meeting? Of course not. I guess all of your challenges to the DOB made a big difference, didn’t they? None of you have any viable alternatives to the current shit show going on here. Why don't you start your own tenants organization with its own mission statement. I’ll give it a whirl. Oh wait, never mind, that’s a LOT of hard work. I am all for turning the pressure on ALL of our elected officials to voice our management office problems (first fire code violations, now public parking being eliminated at the First Avenue Loop) for this issue but to throw out mud and hope it sticks is crap.

Tommyboyardee said...

The excavation dig for the new state of the art management means? Faster automated responses? Neglected filed complaints? Please remember CW employes you are working out of a basement, surrounded by toxic soil, pumped in & recycled air much like a overseas flight. I wish you only the best.........NOT!

Anonymous said...

Hello 4:14
10:46 here.
I didn't challenge DOB but wish I did even though I doubted challenges to DOB would over ride money payoffs.

Anonymous said...

And another thing 4:14 if "challenges to the DOB made a big difference" bothered you so much then they made a difference! I will start to do that now! Anyone know the best way to file our complaints?

Anonymous said...

11:25 am - Same here. We've all given up as we know we can't fight the Harvard lawyers and the billion dollars corporations.
What a pitiful lot we are now.

Anonymous said...

TOP 1% ALWAYS wins. This place will NEVER be the same!

Anonymous said...

June 21, 2014 at 10:46 AM

What deal? You have no idea what you're talking about. It's construction on PRIVATE PROPERTY that the city APPROVED. End of fucking story. There wasn't anything ANYBODY, from the TA to Dan G to Barack Obama, could do about it, because there wasn't a legal leg to oppose on.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

But the city didn't have to approve it.

Anonymous said...

Can we suggest that all spots within Stuy/PCV can only be used by tenants/require a parking pass?

Anonymous said...

But the city didn't have to approve it.

...and Garodnick and the TA didn't have to give their blessings to which they did, END of fucking story.

Anonymous said...

12:52 Hahahaha

The city DOESNT HAVE TO DO A LOT Of things, yet they do. All the time. And it does not benefit us who pay for this city dearly.

Anonymous said...

STR

What do you mean the city didn't have to approve it? Are you losing it too? The city would have had to have a legal basis to turn their management office plans down. On what legal basis would that have been? Because if it had been turned down arbitrarily there would have been a legal shitstorm.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

We're there any objections to the new management office? I dunno. If there were, the city would have to decide whether those were valid and could have turned down the plans. The city would also have to make sure that zoning regulations and all work permits were valid. I don't know how much research was put into this by the city. So, yes, the city doesn't just have to rubber stamp everything presented before it. In theory.

Anonymous said...

STR

I don't think you know what you're talking about. Our city councilman demanded an audit of the plans that the city approved, and that included zoning issues and work permits, and they were found to be in compliance.

The fucking thing is in my back yard and will be sticking up four feet out of the ground and I hate everything about it. But sometimes you have to accept things you don't like and move on. It's time to move on on this one. There are plenty of other things to focus on.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait for Oval Swimming Pool. Now THAT'S going to be an amenity. You don't think that's going to happen? Don't be surprised. Then you can use it in the Winter as your ice skating rink. Happy trails.............

Anonymous said...

1:12 are you saying the city councilman is taking responsibility for anything and everything that is not in compliance, on plan, legal, etc? Dan reviewed it all and is taking responsibility declaring all in order and if there is anything out of order Dan is responsible?

Anonymous said...

Actually they were not in compliance. They started work without proper scaffolding permits. And that is just the beginning of what is wrong with this site.

Anonymous said...

1:21 you can't be serious. PCV is a short walk to ST we dont need garages in PCV. We have more trees, better walkways, bigger apartments and you want a garage? Stop whining. PCV does not need garages. ST is right across the street. Just like your gym.

Anonymous said...

The City should not have approved the new management building. Period.

Anonymous said...

June 24, 2014 at 4:32 PM

Do you know what an audit is? City agencies signed off on it dude. If something were out of compliance, that would be a major matter for the mayor.

Anonymous said...

June 24, 2014 at 5:13 PM-Don't try that at home. Your kids will laugh at you.

Anonymous said...

A light on my floor has been out for almost THREE WEEKS. Ya think the porter has noticed this AND ya think anyone on my floor would call it in? Another example of "nobody cares" attitude amongst EVERYONE around here, including myself.

Anonymous said...

Careful about the Lights out in Hallway complaint.

We would complain, but apparently lights in hallways results in an MCI fee.