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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. They tend to be ignored, despite "the rules." So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change. Sorry.

Wednesday, June 4, 2014

What Apartments Go For In ST/PCV

http://streeteasy.com/building/stuyvesant-town

CompassRock uses StreetEasy.com to push ST/PCV apartments. You'll see a listing at the link above.

BTW, do we have "live-in" supers?

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

Oh sure and all these were legally deregulated. If this TA had honorable intentions on behalf of residents, affordable housing, the property they would have challenged the rent roll, asked for a TPU audit of each and every one of these and the entire complex. There is no legal way all of these apartments went to these rent levels.

Hippo said...

It's mindboggling that people would pay these kinds of rent for this dump. This morning in front of the elevator was a freshly laid pile of dog shit...so aesthetically pleasing...and pungent too! And who can forget to mention the sparking, new, efficient laundry rooms...NOT..some sort of green slime was crawling out of the machine...MERS anyone? Guess I'll complain to the doorman...oh wait, there is no doorman. Maybe I'll walk over to the management office to complain...oh, wait, there is no management office. What a pity how this place has declined...so sad!

Anonymous said...

Well, at least the bedroom is 80% carpet complaint. And “Laundry in Building”. Yes, but the key question, what is the percentage of machines that actually work is not answered.

“From the many social events, seasonal greenmarket and ice rink, live music and movies, there is always something going on at Stuyvesant Town!”

This “Cruise Ship” marketing, it’s so non New York City, flyover state, hick crap. The vast majority of millennials, even they don’t give a shit about these so called “resident (snicker, snicker) amenities”. Will somebody please end this BS?

And, of course, it's never pointed out to the attention of perspective tenants that you will be living in a NYU/Parsons/New School/Etc. dormitory. Like, Like, Like, Like, OMG! Like Yah!

Anonymous said...

Outrageous! Someone should tell the prospective victims about the filthy, insanitary, almost-waterless washers. People have to wash their clothes in machines (when they are working, which is rare) that harbor all the snots, slimes and hairs and bacteria from the previous user and your laundry comes out looking dingier than it went in because it wasn't really washed, it was coated with the dreck from the previous user. Yech! When will the Department of Health come and condemn those machines?

Anonymous said...

Let's hope they post the truth - Yelp won't post - that the rent you sign for is not EVEN the true rent. Expect an increase as soon as possible - water charge, ac charge, metering, intercom charge.

Anonymous said...

I think if any of the politicians were going to take any actions that helped residents they would have done so in recent years past. All that is being done in this year should have been done last year, the year before, and not waiting for an election year or until its too late

Anonymous said...

Stopped by the construction on First Ave loop this A.M. and thanks to the residents who reported the unsafe excessive debris the workers have cleaned it up a bit. But disturbingly there were workers with PAL work vests who are not PAL. If they are supposed to have PAL on site then why are they faking it?

Anonymous said...

Need to get over the washer issues. We have serious financial, safety and future losing our home issues. Go to 1st ave laundromat if it's so gross to you. Not like your basement washer is cheaper.

Anonymous said...

HAHA No we don't have live-in Supers.
But there are these strange unofficial pseudo-supers living in some of the buildings that get discounts on rent and inform Fred Knapp on people moving etc.

Anonymous said...

Yelp won't post - that the rent you sign for is not EVEN the true rent. Expect an increase as soon as possible - water charge, ac charge, metering, intercom charge.

Why won't Yelp let you post this? Have you inquired?

Anonymous said...

Shocking how many are available!

Anonymous said...

To my friends on First Ave Loop

City of New York.

Noise from Construction.

You can report noise from street or building construction, including jackhammering and construction activity before or after hours.

Before or after hours is Monday to Friday before 7:00 AM or after 6:00 PM, or anytime on Saturday or Sunday without special authorization.

Noise from Construction | City of New York - NYC.gov

Anonymous said...

10:32.

I TOTALLY AGREE. Why doesn't the f___cking TA ask for an audit and challenge the rent roll. Wasting our time here.

Anonymous said...

Yelp puts up what they feel like posting. I have also tried (i'm not the poster) and it never showed up.

Are there other sites tenants can post on similar or greater reaching than yelp?

Anonymous said...

The "live-in super" doesn't live-in and has 4-5 buildings to take care of.

Anonymous said...

"Shocking how many are available!"

Why is this shocking? What normal person would pay market rate prices to live in a dilapidated, filthy housing project? Have you looked around this place recently?

Anonymous said...

9 40 - shocking or not, have you been in the REAL WORLD of Manhattan? Go and try and find a similar , or not, unit the size of yours and report back to us here the price and details. MANHATTAN has next to zero vacancy. Post back here your findings. Not in Queens, SI, or BK. below 31st street, east side. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

If you want to move into this neighborhood for one reason or another, those rents are nothing out of the ordinary in todays market. Landlords are renting out one bedroom apt's in 4 floor tenement walkups for $4,000.00 and 2 bedrooms for $5,000.00, and most of those apartments are smaller and the building more poorly maintained than Stuy Town, the landlord simply puts in a new cheap kitchen and bathroom, paints the place white, and wham oh!

Anonymous said...

Exactly- Please PLEASE WE BEG YOU.. post real rentals that are same price per sf and fees added. We'd be happy to move if there were. And you're assuming those landlords are better? lmao

Anonymous said...

What a joke. Let me repeat, WHAT A JOKE..

Anonymous said...

9 40 - shocking or not, have you been in the REAL WORLD of Manhattan? Go and try and find a similar , or not, unit the size of yours and report back to us here the price and details. MANHATTAN has next to zero vacancy. Post back here your findings. Not in Queens, SI, or BK. below 31st street, east side. Thanks.

I'm not the original poster but here's a quick start:

All of Battery Park City, The Regatta, The Cove Club, Liberty Luxe, Liberty View, Liberty green, etc.

Courtney House on 14th. Uptown is High Gate etc.

Heck even Lincoln Plaza has apts. for less than PCVST, you just aren't looking hard enough.

Anonymous said...

There's one in a walkup on first avenue, above some store - not very nice, very small, smaller than a ST one br and it's 3435. You should take it. NO laundry, walk up,facing first avenue. You know the buildings.

Anonymous said...

HET STUY TOWN YOU VAM RENT MY AOARTMENT THE COST IS A FORTUNE AND A LIFESTIME OF AGRIVATION!!! RIGHT NOW THEY ARE REPLANTING THE PLAJTS THEY REPLANTED LADT MONTH AFTER THEY REPLANTED THE PLANTS THEY REPLANTED, THE ONES THEY OREVIOUFLY RAN OVER WITH THE ,AWMOWER AND DROPPED A PILE OF FECAL MULCH ON. AND JUST IN TIME FOR THE 86 SORORITY QUEENS TO COME HIME TO THE CUBICLE TENEMENT UPSTAIRS FROM ME AND HAVE A HIGH HEEL PARTY ITS LIKE A TUPPERWEARE PARTY IF THE MEMBERS OF STOMP THROUGH IT. I HATE STUY TOWN.

Anonymous said...

Watch a dopey, insensitive, condescending thing to say.

Tenants are entitled to WORKING washers and dryers ON PREMISES. It's part of what is supposed to be included in everyone's rent. I am not going to drag my 5 loads of laundry to 1st Ave. or anywhere else every time I need to do them. Got it? I'm going to try to get Management to do something about these crap machines, whether it's shaming them here, on Facebook, Yelp or somewhere else; filing with DHCR for a diminution of services, etc.

And, despite our "serious financial, safety and future losing our home issues", which everyone is painfully aware of, life still goes on. And part of that life includes tenants being able to do their laundry in their laundry room.

Speaking for myself, I have done everything I can with regard to the peril that my home is in. Sent emails, called people in charge, protested, etc. I don't know what more I can do at this point. And, I will continue to do all these things in the future, if necessary. In the meantime, I need clean clothes and I ought to be able to do my laundry in my laundry room since I pay for that privilege!

Anonymous said...

Its shocking how many are available to me because these were occupied by our neighbors before they were wrongfully aggressively overcharged deregulated and evicted. Neighbors who we saw had previous tenants who lived there for decades with little turnover. The vacancy rents are going unchecked when the new tenants move in. The increases are out of whack. The turnover is out of whack. If you review the numbers, in year 2000 and compare that to 2005 then 2007 then 2010 then current - it is shocking the number of vacancies and apartments out of rent stabilized limit of $2500. There is no legal way this occurred. Its shocking I agree.

Anonymous said...

"Exactly- Please PLEASE WE BEG YOU.. post real rentals that are same price per sf and fees added. We'd be happy to move if there were. And you're assuming those landlords are better? "

You do know that it is ok to leave manhattan if what you say is true. I realize you may want easy access to all that is here, but I promise you there are ihops, starbucks, subways, dunkin' donuts, and 7-11's everywhere. If one is a R/S tenant in name only why live like an animal in this sty when you can live like a human being somewhere else?

Anonymous said...

At 8:11PM, The point is, that if someone for what ever reason, which is none of anyone else's business, decides that they would like to or needs to move into this neighborhood, or change apartments here, then the price listed on those Stuy Town apartments is in keeping with the rest of the neighborhood, everyone knows that you can get more for your money outside of Manhattan, that has always been the case, the point is those prices are not even that bad, when compared to what other apartments in this area are renting for. Most of those apartments outside of Stuy Town that are listed in a similar price range, are in tenement buildings, with no elevators, smaller apartments, no laundry rooms and most of them not as well maintained as Stuy Town. That does not make it right, It is just unfortunately the reality of moving into this area now.

Anonymous said...

You are full of BS. Lincoln Plaza (on west side) does not have apartments for less and they are smaller.

Anonymous said...



I wonder if we'll worry about non working dryers when we're all set up and charged separately for metering. Going to be a nice chunk of change... monthly for us all.

Not worry about dryers now. But please, continue the rant on it.