Comment Policy

All comments to posts have to await approval. Approval does not happen immediately. NOTE: Comments reflect the opinions of the person writing them and should not be assumed to reflect the opinion of the blog.

Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. Things like the carpet rule or outsider dogs. These "rules" tend to be ignored, on purpose it seems. So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change, though the "selling" of this place is intense. Few of the "rules" will be enforced, as Management doesn't want to lose customers or potential customers. Where personal integrity is a hallmark of an excellent management style, this integrity is not seen in enforcing some of the rules.

Our Tenants Association is, basically, null and void. Oh, it is still around, but it lacks the will power to confront much of anything. The TA will ask for your dues, however. By now, the TA is a charade.

About those "club cars" we see going this way and that way, and outside of Stuy Town or Peter Cooper Village:

Tuesday, October 27, 2015

Stuy Town Chipotle Wants Liquor License

A Stuy Town Report reader informed us of the forthcoming request by Chipotle for a liquor license. Chipotle is going to be our neighbor soon. The rapid availability of alcohol to the student population here may be of concern to us, so I'm posting this info below. And thanks to the person who alerted me to this.

BTW, unless I'm reading the law wrong, the legal drinking age in New York starts at 21. And yet I see many students in Hane and Vamos who appear underage drinking alcohol. And now Petite Abeille is promoting a "college night," offering $3 beers and $5 beers with a shot of whiskey! $10 for a pitcher! (Let's not also forget that Oval Cafe was hoping to obtain a liquor license, too, before resident outrage shut that idea down, at least temporarily.) Is anyone carding the students taking advantage of the easy flow of alcohol in these establishments? (And carding with the knowledge and skill of spotting fake IDs.) Have the police checked? I don't want to spoil anyone's fun, but if student drinking IS a problem in this community, then these issues have to be addressed.

Meanwhile, here is the Chipotle info:

Chipotle is asking for a liquor license for its new location in Stuy Town. The Communty Board 6 meeting is this Thursday. Oct 29th at 7PM in Bellevue. Lots of college kids will be piling into Chipotle all night, much like the location on 23rd St which is a zoo at night. This will create noise and bring more litter, mice, rats and drunks into StuyTown since Chipotle serves both Margaritas and beer. If you want to oppose the liquor license contact the Community Board today or show up at the meeting this Thursday:

Business Affairs & Street Activities Committee
When: Thursday, October 29, 2015 - 7:00 pm
Where: Bellevue Hospital Center, 462 1st Ave, NY, NY, 10016
Old Medical Library - 8th Fl.


9i. New OP Liq. Lic, Chipotle Mexican Grill of Colorado, LLC dba Chipotle Mexican Grill,
286 1st Ave @E. 17th St. Reso.

If you can't attend the meeting, here is the CB6 contact information. Even a few people opposing a liquor license on valid grounds is enough for the board to oppose it. The final decision then goes to the State Liquor Authority, but they use the recommendations of the Community Board to guide their decisions.

Community Board Six Manhattan
866 United Nations Plaza, Suite 308
New York, NY 10017

Telephone: 212-319-3750

Fax: 212-319-3772



Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

Better that they drink in Chipotle then their apartments

Anonymous said...

They will keep us busy with these little issues when the bigger issues are the cause of our problems. Not wasting a minute of time on this battle. CB6 do as you wish, you do so anyway.

Anonymous said...

Most restaurants have a liquor license. They need it to survive.

It is unfair to refuse Chipotle in Stuyvesant Town a liquor license when they have to compete with Vamos Taco and Tequila in Peter Cooper Village

Anonymous said...

We need to address the core issue, which is the converting of the property into a student dorm. If the didn't live on this property I wouldn't care if they all drank themselves to death. We just don't need them here.

Anonymous said...

Almost all Chipotle locations serve beer and margaritas. I don't think this is a reason for anyone to get their panties in a twist.

Anonymous said...

Chipotle is one of the biggest fast food companies on earth, with over a $20 billion valuation. I'm sure they can easily compete with Vamos without the liquor license. Check out the 23rd St location, with the overflowing garbage cans and crowds of kids at night. These places are very high volume, and the amount of traffic and garbage they generate is astoundng. Look at the McDonald's on 14th St, theres always some drama going on over there. I just sent the Community Board an e-mail, hope others who care about quality of life do too.

Anonymous said...

Not sure if most people cought this one but Town & Village just had an article about noise complaints from the new pizza place Visana, where Adriatic used to be on 1st Ave between 18-19th St.. They have a liquor license and operate a "lounge" at night, and the residents are already comlaining about the late night noise, Once a place gets a liquor license you're basically out of luck. From Town & Village:

Visana, the new pizza place and cocktail bar/lounge that moved into 321 First Avenue after Adriatic closed, recently opened, and has already incited the ire of some residents who live in buildings adjacent to the new business. Timoney said that he noticed some of the 311 complaints in the last month have been related to noise from the restaurant, which operates as a cocktail lounge in the back at night.

“It’s a sleepy, quiet block and suddenly we have a club,” a neighbor at 317 First Avenue piped in at the meeting.

Although residents referred to the spot as a club, Visana does not have a cabaret license, which would officially permit dancing at the venue.

Timoney said that he and Detective Ray Dorrian have spoken with owner David Jaffee, who seemed willing to cooperate.

“I told him to be a good neighbor because now he’s on my radar,” Timoney said.

The commanding officer noted that he and Dorrian checked up on the business in the early morning hours on a recent weekend to make sure the noise level wasn’t too high and Timoney said that the business was in compliance, but he said that since the complaints about the volume of the music has continued, the precinct will continue to work with the owner to prevent disturbing neighbors, including hanging signs reminding patrons to be mindful of their conversation volume when outside the lounge.

Anonymous said...

Are there any Chipotles that currently sell alcohol? I thought that's like McDonalds asking for one? This does not make any sense as to how they could apply for one. I might be wrong.

Anonymous said...

I guess we really need alcohol to have a good time.

Anonymous said...

It is a little different than McDonalds because they specifically target young children with their ads, beginning at age two kids of enabling parents can recognize the clown, they used to be able to recognize the golden arches too. That kind of stops McD's from getting a liquor license.

Chipotle advertises to adults, so yeah, they can get a liquor license.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Chipotle will pay for installing "puking stations" where the chess table used to be.

If they get a liquor license.

Anonymous said...

When 1 franchise starts it,the rest will usually follow. Its all about the "benjamins." I read that Starbucks is trying to do the same. And that started out as a coffee shop. Don't be surprised.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Maybe Chipotle will pay for installing "puking stations" where the chess table used to be.<<

Don't give management any ideas!!! LOL.

Anonymous said...

Petite Abeille and VAmos are prime examples. This is NYU and we all know it. Time to go folks. stop.beating.dead horse.

Anonymous said...

It was nice while it lasted. They ruined this place.

Anonymous said...

The big picture is how CW Capital and now Blackstone ignore quality of life issues when it comes to our retail. They are pushing out the Associated supermarket but bringing in a Chipotle, and allowing Vamos and Petit Abielle to become major bro bars. They are turning this into Murray Hill and catering to students now. But on Saturday they sit there lie and and promise to address the student dorm issues. None of these people can be believed and fewer trusted.

Anonymous said...

They can't get rid of associated, that's ridiculous. There is no place to shop for food then. I mean,none for a 1/2 mil.e

Anonymous said...

after Associated goes, bodega on 14th and B gonna do big business!

Anonymous said...

Management is not responsible for you getting your food. They can do whatever they want with this space. And, it will be gone! They will do whatever they want with it.

Anonymous said...

8 59 - said the trolls from Compass and BR

Anonymous said...

4:09 PM

8:59 is not a troll. Just a gut feeling. Not sure what you meant.

Anonymous said...

8: 59 obvious troll who works for Compass Crock