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AN OFFER: PAY ME ONE DOLLAR FOR EVERY INFRACTION THAT I SEE--A UNCOVERED MATTRESS ON THE LOOP, DOG DO-DO NOT PICKED UP, OUTSIDE DOGS BEING WALKED INTO ST OR PCV. ONE DOLLAR FOR ONE PHOTO. I KNOW MANAGEMENT READS THIS BLOG, SO ACCEPT MY OFFER. BLACKSTONE WILL BE SO MUCH BETTER.

As we see, nothing much is being done about the many complaints residents have: the discarded furniture on the loops, including the illegal discarding of uncovered mattress; the outside dogs that are infrequently checked for that blue ST lanyard, and their owners escorted out if they don't have one; the lack of R7-2 clarity from our local politicians who seem to be delaying and delaying; the club cars that go this way and that, and many times against regular traffic rules; the failure of our TA to even address those issues, etc. On top of that, residents near the building of the subway extension on 14 Street have had to endure noise and health issues at all hours of the day and night. This is not the way to live. Because of these facts, and a few more, a new representation has to happen. This is where Stuyvesant Town Tenants Advocacy comes in. There are no dues, and plans are underway to get the group doing something proactive about our complaints. The time for submitting our complaints to Management, Public Safety and Blackstone is over.

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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. Things like the carpet rule or outsider dogs. These "rules" tend to be ignored, on purpose it seems. So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change, though the "selling" of this place is intense. Few of the "rules" will be enforced, as Management doesn't want to lose customers or potential customers. Where personal integrity is a hallmark of an excellent management style, this integrity is not seen in enforcing some of the rules.

Our Tenants Association is, basically, null and void. Oh, it is still around, but it lacks the will power to confront much of anything. The TA will ask for your dues, however. By now, the TA is a charade.

About those "club cars" we see going this way and that way, and outside of Stuy Town or Peter Cooper Village:



Monday, June 25, 2018

Out of Control

I'm not saying this is the worst place to live. On the contrary, there have been improvements in our landlords, and the improvements have been appreciated and, I hope, noted, at least someplace. That said, when I walk through the property for a brief time, I have to state that things are "out of control." Oh, there is a measure of control and Management memes that will state that this is just normal living in the city. Don't believe these memes. As someone who has been living here for around 30 years, I can tell you that these Management memes are a lie, and just meant to pacify and explain to the "new tenants" (who are paying a lot of money for their Stuyvesant Town or Peter Cooper Village rooms) that things were always like this, so don't bitch, be happy.

When I step outside, I am aware of more and more "out of control" visual incidents around here. It could be outside dogs and their owners that are never escorted by Public Safety out of this property, it could be the amount of dog stains and smears on the pathway (and increasing in number), it could be the thrown-out uncovered mattresses or general garbage that is on the loops, it could be the outdoor "gym" that is rarely used by a lot of tenants, it could be the "golf" carts that are increasing in number and going this way and that (watch out!)--it could be a lot of things that tell me that this place is "out of control." And some tenants have it worse, depending on their building and neighbors.

I don't plan to "give up." But I will take photos, I will speak my mind. And I will try to change certain things even though it can be a very uphill struggle. I also have a life that is not focused all the time on what is happening here. I have other things to do. And there are tenants who are trying to change this place for the better, as I am. Nothing is easy, so the saying is. And indeed nothing is easy.

159 comments:

Anonymous said...

I've given up years ago. This place is unbearable!

Anonymous said...

It is out of control. Blame falls on Steve Schwarzman owner of Blackstone, his best friends Mike Bloomberg and Martin Sorrell (who was just ousted from his company by his board for misappropriation of company funds, personal misconduct and allegedly a brothel visit to a prostitute photographed by WPP employees.

StuyTown as it is today, crappy, loud, overpriced is the vision of Bloomberg, Sorrell and Schwarzman (and the TA Board who also has a dubious treasurer with a history of misappropriation of company billing). Martin Sorrell's company WPP Grey Group G2 explains the vision these three short, little best friends have for the property.

Our lives are being made miserable because these three best of friends concocted a vulgar plan to disparage the long term tenants and replace them with more "hip" tenants. Ridiculous as it sounds because there is nothing hip about Martin Sorrell, Mike Bloomberg or Steve Schwarzman or their herculean egos.

Making Stuy Town hip

Marketing campaign targets youthful crowd for Stuyvesant Town, Peter Cooper Village

By Marc Ferris | March 31, 2008

https://therealdeal.com/issues_articles/making-it-hip/

Anonymous said...

THE ARTICLE
THE ARTICLE MARTIN SORRELL MIKE BLOOMBERG AND STEVE SCHWARZMAN SPINNING PERCEPTIONS TO BRING IN A NEW DEMOGRAPHIC WHILE PUSHING OUT AN UNDESIRED DEMOGRAPHIC

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Many other twentysomethings have also taken to Stuyvesant Town, in some cases to the chagrin of existing tenants.

“They build pressurized walls and stuff four people into two bedrooms,” said longtime resident Soni Fink. “They come out in the hall to talk on their cellphones because there’s no privacy in their apartments and their stereos are blaring all night. This place is not like it used to be.”

The complex consists of about 70 percent rent-stabilized units; the rest go for market rate, said Al Doyle, president of the tenants association, who has lived there his entire life.

“The number of rent-stabilized tenants is dwindling,” Doyle said. “We’ve had a lot of senior citizens who have left for retirement homes, or moved out for medical reasons, or they’ve expired.”

Published reports place the vacancy rate at 5 to 10 percent.

“At Stuyvesant Town, the first thing you think of isn’t necessarily hip or happening, but the demographics are changing,” said Daniel Garodnick, city council member and lifelong resident of Peter Cooper Village. “I see more grad students and young professionals around here every day, but there are also a lot of empty apartments.”

Anonymous said...

Please don't give up, STR. You are our one and only voice. We have no tenants association and our elected representatives do not care about us. We really do appreciate you. I know that I would pay a fee to read and comment on your blog if I had to. I wish there was a way we could show our appreciation and compensate you a little bit for all the time and effort you put into keeping this blog up and speaking the truth. You are the only one who speaks the truth about this place.

Please don't give up. We know you have a life and we understand when you take long breaks. But please don't go away. Management and the TA would love that, but we would be left without a voice. We really, really need to have a real tenants association, but I somehow can't see that happening because the one that is in place is totally in bed with Management and local politicians and would never relinquish their "power," even though they do absolutely NOTHING for the tenants. Their shitty Facebook page is a joke. It is very carefully controlled and, although some truthful comments and photographs get through, the posters are quickly assaulted by the Cheerleaders and the bitter and resentful who blame RS tenants paying lower rents for the deterioration of the QOL.

The real RS tenants are hated for just being alive and living here!

Anonymous said...

It is out of control for those who do not fit into Martin Sorrell's WPP Grey Group G2 vision for the property that Tishman Speyer's Jerry and Rob Speyer and BlackRock's Larry Fink contracted Martin Sorrell to spin in marketing campaigns.

BIGMO said...

No, it's not the worst place to live. Live in a public housing project in the South Bronx like I did in the 60's through the mid 70's and that will give you some perspective on shitty neighborhoods.

I don't spend much time at the Oval area or even walking near there and I've been living here for 40 years. I'm more concerned with the people who surround my apartment because they have a direct impact on my day-to-day living situation.

Once dogs were allowed here by Tishman-Speyer I knew this area would change for the worse. The move towards a college demo was the death knell for Stuytown. This area is way overpopulated with all the students not counting all the illegal people probably living here.

You can make yourself crazy by focusing on all the 'infractions.'

Stuytown will NEVER go back to the days we remember. People need to accept this fact.

I would never pay the rents being asked. My rent is less than half what new tenants are paying for the same size apartment. I think to myself what SUCKERS but then again Manhattan market rates are pricey as we all know.


Anonymous said...

Here you have close friends Mike Bloomberg, Martin Sorrell and Jerry Speyer (plus other very interesting photos)



http://www.patrickmcmullan.com/site/search.aspx?t=person&s=Sir+Martin+Sorrell


These men are why this place is out of control.
Get the picture?

Anonymous said...

People who live here know the truth, and it doesn’t matter what people on the TA Facebook page, Stuy Moms, or even here tell you. The proof is in the things we all see on a daily basis, and the photos STR supplies on an almost weekly basis (for people who like to claim ignorance).

The real way to hit them is on Yelp, and any external review sites where people who don’t live here go to look while looking for an apartment. That is why you see Peter W on Yelp and not the internal Facebook groups or this blog. They don’t care about people they already have in here, just potential clients.

Why do you think they have the ridiculous events? To promote to outsiders at the expense of people already in here.

Anonymous said...

This place is still a good buy if you are rent stabilized. Market rate, on the other hand, is highway robbery. They have nerve charging those high rents for this dump. If they lowered rents they would get a better demo. That would be a step in the right direction. Also clean up the grounds with proper garbage disposal and do away with that crap entertainment. I guess it will never happen . They have their plan.

Anonymous said...

Yes this place is unbearable because we are being run out by lowlifes who have big egos and a lot of money to buy politicians. Period.

Anonymous said...

One day soon thousands of NYc residents will say enough is enough. You can only be a sucker for so long and pay thousands a month for very minimal space.

Anonymous said...

The dog situation is horrendous. It looks like a dog park. Some of these people including students have two dogs. In an apartment that is absurd.

Anonymous said...

Without an effective TA it is nearly hopeless to change things around here. It appears that the politicians cannot or will not do much. How do you expect to change anything here? All of the bad Yelp reviews mean nothing to management,

Anonymous said...

9:35, I disagree with you about Yelp. I think they care a great deal about Yelp reviews, which is why Peter W responds to every single review that goes up on there. Yelp is their lifeline to new tenants, and the difference between minimal vacancies and a lot of vacancies.

If you have potential renters (students), and their parents live halfway around the country or world, where do you think they’ll look when doing research on their child’s potential living situation? Yep, it’s going to be Yelp.

Anonymous said...

Negative reviews on Yelp do not affect them. They can rent these apartments to students, Airbnb and city subsidized to make money . There is an endless pool of the above groups. My building looks to be about 50 percent NYU now.

Anonymous said...

The NYU students and tourists pour in despite the negative Yelp reviews. They seem to turn over the vacancies pretty quickly. They may respond in writing to Yelp reviews but they don’t improve anything. At these high rentals they know that they are getting few families . Thus they are creating more dorms, air bnb, etc, short term rentals. The reviews don’t seem to have hurt their student rentals. Apartments in my building are filled quickly.

Anonymous said...

The one and only thing the TA “fights” for every year was a losing battle - no rent freeze. I guess Peter Stuyvesant/Susan can go back into hiding until next June, unless there is a photo op, then susan will be there.

Hey susan, the noise!! The garbage!!

Anonymous said...

The TA and their democratic machine is done. This is bad news for the Stuyvesant Town Peter Cooper Village Tenant Association and the politician representatives of the present and past 10 - 20 years.

This is very good news for tenants. A politician just beat corruption. No more putting billionaire donors before community.


"A 28-year-old Democratic Socialist just ousted a powerful, 10-term congressman in New York"

"This is not an end, this is the beginning. This is the beginning because the message that we sent the world tonight is that it's not OK to put donors before your community," Ocasio-Cortez told roaring supporters on Tuesday night.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-new-york-14-primary/index.html



https://nypost.com/2018/06/27/how-ocasio-cortez-blindsided-heavily-favored-crowley/

“For 20 years our rents have been going up, health care has been getting more expensive and our incomes are staying the same,” she said in the only debate she had with Crowley, on NY1.

“Not all Democrats are the same and I am proud to be the only Democrat in this race that rejects all corporate money and champions and advances improved and expanded Medicare for all, a federal jobs guarantee, tuition-free public college and the abolition of [Immigration and Customs Enforcement].”


The GIF video in this article of Ocasio-Cortez victory and Crowley defeat is the best thing on earth in this moment.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/27/2018-primary-election-results-analysis-678811

Ocasio-Cortez shocked Crowley with an upset that will reverberate far beyond the five boroughs. MoveOn.org called the result “a shot across the bow of the Democratic establishment in Washington.” Democracy for America said it “sends a clear message to a Democratic Party that still needs to hear it.”


During the Crowley democratic machine years the nation's largest middle class community Stuyvesant Town was destroyed by wealthy corporate donors to establishment politicians.

Also during Crowley's heavy influence in housing courts not one landlord was held accountable for harassment of tenants for over 20 years. Crowley and former Attorney General Schneiderman tried to make Schneiderman look like a Tenant Advocate with a Queens Panel and photo op but tenants, constituents see through the tricks of the Crowley democratic machine.

CROWLEY IS OUT
SCHNEIDERMAN IS OUT

http://queenstribune.com/crowley-schneiderman-talk-tenants-rights-woodside/


Crowley was in line to replace Schumer as leader of the house. Americans have lost too much and suffered to much under the Schumer Crowley Maloney machine. New Yorkers do not need anymore years of it either.

GOOD RIDDANCE

WILL THE STUYVESANT TOWN TENANT ASSOCIATION GO AWAY QUIETLY OR WITH THE SAME SHOCKWAVE AS THEIR DEMOCRATIC MACHINE.

Anonymous said...

City’s Rent Board Approves Increases of 1.5% and 2.5%
EVERYONE HAPPY?

The Love Boat..NOT said...

4:00PM, Wednesday. The noise assault on the Oval has begun.
The "movie" has started.
Woo hoo...another "amenity"...NOT.
A royal F U to the Tenants Association and Susan "Bikini" Steinberg for doing NOTHING to preserve the peace and quiet we are legally entitled to.
Also, Rick Highduck, go back to Florida and run a resort, not a residential complex.
This isn't a cruise ship.

Anonymous said...

Crowley is as corrupt as they come.

Anonymous said...

It’s too bad Maloney got in for another term.

Anonymous said...

June 27, 2018 at 11:56 AM Seriously?

STR already did a brilliant post with the saying Please Sir May I Have Another

We should be happy and just shut up about any and all other concerns like that safety hazards of the airbnb hotel on the floor, the dorms upstairs, the construction legal and illegal, the event noise pollution, the yacht dock, aboricide, overcrowded laundry, mattresses thrown about, filthy recycling areas, stolen packages from the lobby and on our floor at our front door, and the kids that are allowed to play loudly in the hall bouncing balls against the wall. Quality of life here stinks.

Anonymous said...


Corrupt Crowley's corrupt pals Yarmuth, Pelosi, Wasserman, are in a frenzy

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/democrats-reaction-joe-crowley-leadership/index.html

Anonymous said...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/democrats-reaction-joe-crowley-leadership/index.html

This article sums up everything wrong with the old democratic machine especially Wasserman's quote. She acts as if the People have no say and the democratic machine gets to decide who stays in office representing the people who even gets in - in the first place. That may have been the way of the past. With the loss by Joe Crowley it is a era and a much better era than the failures of the 20 years Joe Crowley and a lot of the old democrats clubby pals.

The democratic machine is broken and corrupt. The party has an opportunity to fix itself but from this article until Pelosi, Yarmuth, and Wasserman are out of office that may not happen so fast (and for that fact Maloney and Schumer).

It is not surprising an article on Crowley's loss starts with Yarmuth. Yarmuth is so corrupt and his House Budget Committee is the cause of the Chinese real estate developers buying out NYC including the Chinese developer who funneled a lot of money through Maloney and Blackstone.

Anonymous said...

https://crowley.house.gov/press-release/chairman-crowley-attorney-general-schneiderman-hold-tenants-rights-roundtable-local

Crowley and Schneiderman promoted themselves big time when they did absolutely nothing for tenants, no protections of tenants and no protections of tenant's rights. Crowley was in office for 20 years. Schneiderman as long to as a Senator and then attorney general. Both held positions to do so much for tenants and they did nothing or worse than doing nothing for twenty years they helped developers get a lot richer and a lot of tenants lost their homes.

The People are fed up with them, all of them. Vote them out!

Anonymous said...

it's too bad we're chasing away the decent families and mc MR tenants. We are all to blame.

Anonymous said...

You want a peaceful quiet evening on the Oval then vote out Powers, Hoylman, Kavanagh, Epstein, and all of the machine establishment that made this place a loud mess.

Anonymous said...

QUIET ENJOYMENT NOW:
Are you interested in trying to find a media outlet (Town and Village, at worst, but there are many other newspapers up to and including NYT) to bring accounts of Blackstone's refusal to fine AirBnb and other short term rentals? Or enforce the clause in the lease regarding carpeting?
If anyone else is interested in this, can we somehow connect and get these corrupt assholes held accountable? They took subsidies from the city and are now letting Airbnb run rampant.
***I know there used to be an army of old timers who spent many hours each day looking for Airbnb. Is anyone still doing this? ***

I've contacted Keith Powers, he has not responded yet himself.But I get the sense that he's a piece of shit mealy mouthed typical politician who is not interested in enforcing regulations and seeing right done. He is only interested in himself, getting re elected, and kissing ass of people higher up than he is. Useless. How he won a majority of votes, I do not understand.
I honestly think Garodnick was prefereable to this guy, and I wonder if Garodnick has any continued influence.

Anonymous said...

Also: sorry guys but I'm sitting in an apartment on the oval and that movie is just not that loud.
Those concerts a few years ago--now, those were loud. and with the echoing and the acoustics around the oval, it sounded like a legion of demons in your apartment.
But, I think they have lowered the volume.
Sorry, this is just not going to be a priority for me. I'm willing to sign a petition or say it's a problem, but if that's what a group is working on as their biggest problem, that's not a group I can join. It's also 7:11 PM as I write this and there's no noise whatsoever from that movie...all the noise is my FUCKING GODDAMN SHITHOLE NEIGHBORS, who incidentally have both a nanny and a stay at home mom who I'm sure is part of the Sainted Martyr Mother's of Stytown group.
The element they let in here. Neighborhood's going to hell ;)

Anonymous said...

Not a cruise ship or resort but a garbage dump. Dirty uncovered mattress left out all day yesterday. Yes I repeat all day.

Anonymous said...

It started raining!!

Bye bye movie night.

Anonymous said...

No not a cruise ship or resort. A cruise ship and resort are clean and attractive. This place is a dump

Anonymous said...

June 25, 2018 at 3:08 PM
"They have their plan."

It's the same plan - Speyer's Plan. The plan never changed. Black$tone is successfully executing Speyer's failed business plan to rake in multiple billion dollar windfalls pushing the historic PCVST middle class community out of their homes.

Our lying conniving NYC Councilman Dan Garodnick, his hijacked, incredibly conflicted PCVST TA Board and our corrupt NYC Mayor de Blasio were all elected to defend us against predatory Black$tone. Instead, they betrayed and disenfranchised us. They literally guaranteed in writing Black$tone will successfully rake in the same multiple billion dollar windfalls Speyer tried and failed to rake in.

Anonymous said...

ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS Given the fact that
the Complex has a population equal or greater to many of
Manhattan's leading suburbs, the addition of other on-site
entertainment options should be considered. Possibilities
include the conversion of one of the garages into an
entertainment complex, the development of performance
space that could be used for entertainment similar to Cirque
du Soleil and other theatrical groups, or the cultivation of
new high-end shopping facilities. These possibilities would
enable the Complex to become a destination location for
non-residents, enhancing both the image and the
commercial activity of PCV/ST.

This is from the MetLife broker CBRE CB Richard Ellis on the internet, public knowledge on The Real Deal.

This is the Entertainment that is planned to replace the quiet, peaceful homes we have a right to. CBRE promised something and sold something that vi0lates the rights of the tenants living in this community.

Anonymous said...

June 28, 2018 at 1:22 AM Right.

https://therealdeal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Stuy-Town-offering-book.pdf

A class action lawsuit against CBRE Metlife Tishman Speyer New York City et al for destroying the country's last bastion of middle class community

Doubtful that De Blasio could campaign on that message in his ambitions for President. That is his biggest resume credential and this community will remind the public of that every time he tries to campaign for anything included with the photo of him campaigning with the lobbyist who represented the developer of the StuyTown Entertainment Hotel Condo Complex Capalino & Co

Anonymous said...

June 27, 2018 at 7:03 PM Trump Soho lobbyist turned StuyTown city Council Powers just lost his biggest backer, Crowley.

Anonymous said...

Yes De Blasio, Garodnick, CBRE, Hoylman, Steinberg, Kavanagh promised that the property would be rid of rent stabilized tenants. Around 1993 MetLife started the process of selling a StuyTown rid-off rent stabilized tenants - as the lawmakers under Lower East Side destroyer Sheldon Silver (Sanders, Kavanagh included) et al passed laws to rid of rent stabilization.

That is the real deal from The Real Deal and CBRE MetlIfe Tishman Speyer et al own words

https://therealdeal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Stuy-Town-offering-book.pdf



EVOLVING DEMOGRAPHIC
The Rent Regulation Reform Acts of 1993 and 1997, which
included the adoption of more equitable rules guiding the
transition of stabilized apartments to market rate status,
encouraged current ownership to begin moving PCV/ST away
from its traditional rent stabilized composition. To date, 27%
of the units are deregulated, a trend that is changing the
overall demographics of the Complex. As this deregulation
continues, new ownership can fully leverage the unique
competitive advantages of the apartments, including their
spacious layouts, windowed kitchens and bathrooms,
absence of abutting buildings, and stunning River and
landscaped views.

Anonymous said...

Garodnick did nothing to assist us. He disappeared the last year of his term. They are also accepting city subsidies for regular rentals. I have people next door to me who are not paying 3500 for their apartment.

Anonymous said...

Voted against Hoylman and Kavanagh last election for that reason. They got in anyway.

Anonymous said...

Music on the oval is canceled!! Now people can eat dinner in peace.

Anonymous said...

Did they report that as part of the deal they made in that the City would give them tax breaks, air rights and big taxpayer subsidies on market rate rentals? The City gave away this property, the people who live here and a boatload of money after the developers Brookfield could not immediately build the luxury hotel they announced in 2013.

Anonymous said...

Always delighted when it rains on Wednesday or Thursday evening and that crap is canceled out

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Voted against Hoylman and Kavanagh last election for that reason. They got in anyway.

June 28, 2018 at 10:55 AM

Because Crowley ran the machine putting who he wanted where he wanted them. Crowley gave Powers his job. Crowley is out. Powers falls short of delivering then he is voted out next. Crowley gamed the system and the courts like no other before for his family and friends.

Anonymous said...

Hallelujah!!!!

Anonymous said...

Managemen rents brand new units to section 8 here but cannot offer the decent market raters a good rent. Watch for your next renewal good families of stuy shit town & pcv.

Barry Shapiro said...

I'd like to know...in what areas do people here want change and think that change is possible (stressing where change is possible)?

1. Vacancy decontrol?
2. Vacancy increase allowances?
3. MCIs?
4. Small Business Survival?
5. Dogs?
6. Bikes?
7. Noise?
8. Anything else of concern?

Anonymous said...

Construction work at playground 1 started at 6:30 this morning. Un fucking believable. Rick doesn't give a shit about anything.

Anonymous said...

BIGMO said...

"No, it's not the worst place to live. Live in a public housing project in the South Bronx like I did in the 60's through the mid 70's and that will give you some perspective on shitty neighborhoods.

I don't spend much time at the Oval area or even walking near there and I've been living here for 40 years. I'm more concerned with the people who surround my apartment because they have a direct impact on my day-to-day living situation.

Once dogs were allowed here by Tishman-Speyer I knew this area would change for the worse. The move towards a college demo was the death knell for Stuytown. This area is way overpopulated with all the students not counting all the illegal people probably living here.

You can make yourself crazy by focusing on all the 'infractions.'

Stuytown will NEVER go back to the days we remember. People need to accept this fact.

I would never pay the rents being asked. My rent is less than half what new tenants are paying for the same size apartment. I think to myself what SUCKERS but then again Manhattan market rates are pricey as we all know."

Well said, I agree 100%. I'm in the same boat as you. It doesn't seem that people WILL accept this fact though. I know several market raters who try to negotiate new leases to no avail. This doesn't sound like a company that had difficulty renting apartments. We're all essentially irrelevant to Blackstone (real R/S tenants) and actually, the more we're displeased living here the better from their perspective.

Finally, a big thank you to disappearing Dan and the tenants association for throwing us all to the wolves. What a despicable lot.

Anonymous said...

https://nypost.com/2018/06/29/de-blasio-cheers-ocasio-cortez-even-though-he-endorsed-her-opponent/

De Blasio is a puppet of the democratic machine that is owned by REBNY and corporate dollars and who gave this property to corporate developers along with the corporate Tenant Assocaition Brookfield Oartnership corporate condo conversion. De Blasio is now pretending to be a progressive again with his hypocritical endorsement now that democratic machine King was taken down by a real progressive voice of the people. You just cannot trust anything out of the flip flop mouth of De Blasio.

Anonymous said...

Today on the 14th St loop and on the sidewalk there was mounds of garbage. Some of it was covering a fire hydrant. This included uncovered dirty mattresses. It was finally collected but was out for about four hours. If Hayduk thinks that this is acceptable on a “luxury “ property , he is mistaken. It is disgusting and contemptuous.

STAND UP AND FIGHT said...

STAND UP AND FIGHT:

One or two of you have written about organizing, which is something I consider of importance.

Again: contact me and we will plan what we will do.

quietenjoyment@gmail.com

- The noise is coming in from the idiocy/assault at the "Café." Enjoy your evening!

STAND UP AND FIGHT

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I don't know if you received my email. Will check.

But I did go out to get something and passed by the Oval. Yes, the "music" from the cafe is loud and one cannot sit around the Oval without hearing it. R7 here we come.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>This doesn't sound like a company that had difficulty renting apartments. We're all essentially irrelevant to Blackstone (real R/S tenants) and actually, the more we're displeased living here the better from their perspective.

Finally, a big thank you to disappearing Dan and the tenants association for throwing us all to the wolves. What a despicable lot.<<

I agree.

Anonymous said...

I agree that management that management is renting city subsidized apartments. There is one next door to me.

Anonymous said...

Noise of events, garbage strewn about, dogs and dorms

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>I'd like to know...in what areas do people here want change and think that change is possible (stressing where change is possible)?

1. Vacancy decontrol?
2. Vacancy increase allowances?
3. MCIs?
4. Small Business Survival?
5. Dogs?
6. Bikes?
7. Noise?
8. Anything else of concern<<

Some of the things are in hands, supposedly, of the politicians in Albany. Right now, I am more concerned with what is happening around me, which is in Blackstone's hands. The stuff in Albany...people can and do vote, and the politicians should listen to them, but we have talkers instead of fighters. So, on some of these issues, just vote. As for Blackstone, all the issues at the lower part of your list are a concern. But Blackstone does not care as long as they have cheerleaders, which includes these days our TA.

Anonymous said...

The cheerleaders are crowing about the solar panels. Whoopdy do. Better they should clean this dump up.

All I want is peace and quiet said...

Music? ya' gotta be kidding?
HORRIBLE noise coming from the 5 Turd eColi PigStuy Café this evening.
Aren't we lucky to have this "amenity"?
What happened to peace and quiet?
Susan, where are ya?

Anonymous said...

I can hear that cafe music in my apartment. This is ridiculous. We have to put up with Hayduk’s crappy non amenities.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>The cheerleaders are crowing about the solar panels.<<

Instead of instantly jumping on the "green" bandwagon, think of the possible consequences. This reminds me of the tobacco fuss where cigarette manufacturers would tell you that no harm would come from smoking cigarettes, and they would have scientists back them up. Well, maybe no harm to some, but to others, something different. Same thing is happening now. The people behind going solar are pushing this feature as exciting and forward thinking. Meanwhile, there IS contradictory evidence. After about 20 years, we will know better. Some of us may not live that long, and some may, just may, become ill from this new and exciting feature. And what about cellphones? We are finding out that they are not just harmless "necessities."

Anonymous said...

Aren't there ANY lawyers in ST who understand the rule of law regarding tenants well being?

Can't something be done to stop this horrendous noise blight on our community?

THERE HAS TO BE SOME LEGAL ACTION TAKEN AGAINST THIS MANAGEMENT COMPANY ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!

Please.


By the way, Rick----you're an incompetent, inconsiderate management toady shill.


Anonymous said...

https://healthyliving.azcentral.com/solar-energy-health-effects-on-humans-12295523.html

Electromagnetic Radiation From Solar Panels
Modern solar systems use components that radiate high levels of radio frequency electromagnetic radiation, which poses health risks to those with electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS). The primary health hazard involved with solar energy generation is that people with EHS get sick from electromagnetic radiation in even very small amounts. Such a health problem may be triggered by small frequencies from cell phones, computers and other electronic appliances. The production of solar energy can further aggravate the situation. Since some of the symptoms of this health risk are common and non-specific, such as headaches and restlessness, a person inside a solar-powered home or building may not even realize what's going on.

Silicon Dust from Solar Panels
A solar panel’s basic component contains pure silicon. Silicon dust is a harmful substance when inhaled, especially over long periods of time. Exposure to this dust can result in a lung disease called silicosis, which causes scar tissue to form in the lungs. This scar tissue reduces the lungs’ capacity to process oxygen. Solar cells are also made of non-recyclable materials. Therefore, the absence of an environment-friendly way to dispose of non-functioning solar cells could pose a threat to the environment as well.

Exposure to Electrical and Chemical Components of Solar Heat Systems
A solar hot water system takes the heat of the sun to warm up bath water. Some solar heat systems can heat up an entire house. These technologies usually have a solar collector that processes the energy to generate heat. These methods pose health risks to chemically or electrically sensitive people, especially if they are constantly exposed to these systems.

The Future of Solar Energy
With more research and development projects, the health risks related to the acquisition and utilization of solar energy can be better managed and addressed. Hopefully, new solar energy technology will be free from these negative health effects.

Anonymous said...

Management should offer then subsidized apartments to current tenants who pay market rates here. Instead they raise their illegal overpriced rentals every year or other year. Overcharging???????????????? Yes they are.

Anonymous said...

Blackstone is in ongoing VIOLATION OF THE ZONING LAWS FOR THIS PROPERTY, which states that these so-called amenities are for RESIDENTS AND THEIR GUESTS ONLY. There is absolutely ZERO vetting of resident IDs for any of the events that take on the Oval - movies, music, Greenmarket, etc. - or for 5 Stuy Cafe. This is where they are LEGALLY VULNERABLE and how, if the TA had any backbone, they could truly fight what is going on here. If Blackstone were forced to ID everyone who participates in any of these amenities, you would see how quickly they would all disappear.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I don't know why, but maybe I very well do, why Management does not have people going around the property to make sure everything is "working" well. I don't mean the pipes, but the day to day things that I see. Management appears clueless (even though they have a bunch of "Officer Joes" out to roam the grounds). When I wrote "appears," I did so knowingly. I know Management knows.

Anonymous said...

Awakened this fine Saturday morning to people opening the garbage bags looking for cans. Where is PS? Unbelievable.

Anonymous said...

It is 9 AM and already the 14th St loop in front of my building is cluttered with trash. Let’s see how long it sits there and how big the disgusting heap gets.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately some of the tenants here and I do mean long term like this crap entertainment. They find it fun. We are up against that as well.

Anonymous said...

What a farce the use of the PS force is. Instead of having them riding around on their sedgeways greeting people, they should be posted at areas on foot watching for violators of dog, garbage and other rules. But of course, Hayduk and management are intent on running this property into the ground.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Unfortunately some of the tenants here and I do mean long term like this crap entertainment. They find it fun. We are up against that as well.<<

And Management relies on these people. The people who don't want this noise are just "bitchers" according to Management. And very few in number.

Anonymous said...

Most of the long times spoken to who like the entertainment movie and concert events do not live on the Oval so they get to pick and chose when they are subjected to it while those on the Oval do not have a choice and get bombarded by every event whether or not they want it and whether or not they like the movie or band.

Anonymous said...

But Blackstone does not care as long as they have cheerleaders, which includes these days our TA.

June 29, 2018 at 7:23 PM

Actually for years according to TA former President John Marsh who said that the TA Board worked tirelessly for years on the Blackstone deal. It is not just "these days" but for years before the Town & Village published the Gratitude letter from John Marsh which was posted on this blog. The letter was in Town & Village in 2016 so for years before 2016 the TA board are cheerleaders for Blackstone.

Anonymous said...

Living at an Oval address with a fountain view used to be the living end.

Now, it's the end of living.


Anonymous said...

>>Blackstone is in ongoing VIOLATION OF THE ZONING LAWS FOR THIS PROPERTY, which states that these so-called amenities are for RESIDENTS AND THEIR GUESTS ONLY. There is absolutely ZERO vetting of resident IDs for any of the events that take on the Oval - movies, music, Greenmarket, etc. - or for 5 Stuy Cafe. This is where they are LEGALLY VULNERABLE and how, if the TA had any backbone, they could truly fight what is going on here. If Blackstone were forced to ID everyone who participates in any of these amenities, you would <<

ANY LAWYERS LIVING IN STUYvesant TOWN?

Anonymous said...

Yes it is out of control but they did not get to build their hotel on the PCV site as planned in 2013 and again in 2015. They did not get their big payout from the Steinberg illegal hotel and bed bug tracking report scheme. They are stuck here too in this mess because there is no luxury hotel and no big payout from the bed bug scheme to go retire in Florida.

Open the books Steinberg. Let us all see Marsh's illegal hotel tracking correlation with the bed bug instances you testified about under oath. Show us those phony invoices. Let us see the names of all who you say reported illegal hotels to you when only three were reported to the city. Let us see all the names who were reported to have brought bed bugs to StuyTown when there are only three reports of illegal hotels - 1 was in a TA Board building Aadahl, 2 was in 274 First Avenue where a woman is famous for whining endlessly about bed bugs in the C line apartment, and 3 was a report where hotel guests were seen in the management office.

How many reports did the Marsh tracking include? How many illegal hotels did you testify about? How many bed bugs reports does your infamous report track? Open the books Steinberg.

We all know there were a hundred illegal hotels advertised on Airbnb which Steinberg did not mention in her testimony that seems written to cover up the hotel problem here.

Does anyone know on what floor of the C line in 274 First Avenue Loop is the woman with the bed bug problem? Is the whole building infested? Lets get the story straight from the bed bug woman at 274 First Avenue Loop C line.

Anonymous said...

Cheerleaders are out in all-out force. Do not disagree with them, otherwise you belong in the Catskills. These people are truly self-centered a$$holes that do not give a damn if you can’t enjoy your apartment for 4 evenings a week, as long as they get their cheap oval thrills.

Anyone who enjoys these oval events are losers. You live in the greatest city in the world with some of the best music and theatre venues in the world, yet you like Dirty Dancing in the oval.

Maybe if you weren’t spending every last dime you have in order to live here, you could go out and enjoy some actual city events. But no, blast me out of my apartment because you want to watch Grease or some horrible band while you drink your boxed wine. Get a life.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Before going out for some "fresh" air and peace and quiet for a limited time, I still read on the TA Facebook the same excuses from certain residents that ape the excuses coming from Management. One that always gets me, and one that is continually used no matter what, is: "But it's the city!" And other one that usually follows is: "If you don't like it here, then move to the country!"

As I said, I've had it with these people and their lame excuses. Sorry, but to me, they have stupid minds! STUPID! STUPID!

Seriously. This is what we see now: Residents against residents. You know, that "community" feel Management is always talking about.

And that's why certain "rules" have been established. No, not by Management, which has its own set of rules, some of which they do not enforce, but by the city.

Anonymous said...

It is sad that these cheerleaders call these entertainments amenities when they are paying over 4 grand to live in this dump,

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Thank you, our politicians and REBNY and our TA. You've done a good job. Take a bow.

https://harpers.org/archive/2018/07/the-death-of-new-york-city-gentrification/

Stuy Town Reporter said...

From the above article:

>>The rent on the rent-stabilized apartment that I’ve leased since 1980 has more than tripled in that time. Rents can also be raised when apartments are vacated, or when landlords make improvements to the building or to individual apartments.<<

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>A visit to the Central Park Zoo, once free, now costs $18 per adult, $13 per child. A “total experience” ticket for the world-renowned Bronx Zoo costs $36.95 for all “adults” over the age of twelve, $26.95 for younger children, and $31.95 for seniors—in a borough where the median yearly household income is $37,525.<<

Money, money, money....

Stuy Town Reporter said...

This article seems to hit all the points, and it's long. Further:

>>The greater problem, as Michael Greenberg spelled out in his New York Review of Books analysis, is that by its very definition new housing that is 25 to 30 percent “affordable” still means huge numbers of high-cost new rentals.<<

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>We are becoming a city of transients. Already, there are at least two apartments in my building operating as Airbnbs, an increasingly popular practice in many New York buildings; the only question is whether they are being run by the tenants or by the landlord. The potential safety or comfort of the rest of us, now living with night-to-night tenants who could be anybody, is not their concern.<<

Stuy Town Reporter said...

The end bit:

>>Yes, the rich will be with us always. But New York should be a city of workers and eccentrics as well as visionaries and billionaires; a place of schoolteachers and garbagemen and janitors, or people who wear buttons reading is it fascism yet?—as one woman in my neighborhood has for decades, even as she grows steadily grayer and more stooped. A city of people who sell books on the street—and in their own shops. A city of street photographers, and immigrant vendors, and bus drivers with attitudes, and even driven businessmen and hedge fund operators. All helped to get along a little better, out of gratitude for all that they do to keep everything running, and to keep New York remarkable.

Instead, our leaders seem hopelessly invested in importing a race of supermen for the supercity, living high above the clouds. Jetting about the world so swiftly and silently, they are barely visible. A city of glass houses where no one’s ever home. A city of tourists. An empty city.<<

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Over at the TA Facebook page, a thread on noise from the "events"...

>>An admin turned off commenting for this post.<<

Anonymous said...

I actually agree with Peter Stuyvesants closing comments on the noise thread. Could be a first!!

Anonymous said...

@10:31 PM, June 30: I don't understand the drift of your post. There are bed bugs here (one of my neighbors was infested with them) and Management tries to keep these quiet. What is your point?

Anonymous said...

The cheerleaders are sounding desperate

Anonymous said...

Would not be surprised if they are being run by the landlords.

Anonymous said...

At least they criticized the cheerleaders. I don’t expect them to act on the problem. Not at this point do I expect our councilman to act on it.

Anonymous said...

Two or three filthy uncovered mattresses on the loop in front of my building all day. Guess the cheerleaders think the filth is part of a vibrant young changing community. Wonder what their apartments look like.

STAND UP AND FIGHT said...

Barry Shapiro -

I voted for you. I spoke with your wife.

Please e-mail me so that we can talk about your concerns, your questions to us, and what you know we can do. You are a lawyer, and undoubtedly have a great deal more knowledge than any of us.

STAND UP AND FIGHT

e-mail: quietenjoymentnow@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

They were finally picked up at 7 PM. Were out there all day. A daily occurrence.

Anonymous said...

They don’t sound desperate to me. They know that we cannot stop these events and rub it in with their snarky remarks. Hope these non amenities are worth the money they pay for their apartment rent in this dump.

Anonymous said...

It's high time "Peter Stuyvesant" stood up for the beleaguered Oval tenants instead of always giving the cheerleaders a pass. I've noticed that a couple of the most obnoxious and insulting of the cheerleaders are males who are lawyers. Don't know what their agenda is, but I have a feeling they are probably really lousy lawyers. Nasty bastards.

Anonymous said...

I don’t mind change, but while management is busy focusing on these oval amenities that are enjoyed by “hundreds” (1% of the total population of the place), there is filth everywhere, and it gets worse by the day.

I guess the ever changing scene in this city (according to the cheerleaders) is filth. Dog shit, mattresses, garbage everywhere equals a huge spike in rodents, and people should walk around this property at night a little more if they want to see just how bad the rodent problems are.

Anonymous said...

Agree 100 percent 8:58. This place is becoming a filthy dump. Yesterday dirty uncovered mattresses were on the loop in front of my building all day. My recycling room Saturday night was horrendous. And I know that our porter had cleaned it at noon. You could hardly get in the door there was so much refuse much of it move out trash. Hayden and company are concerned about stupid crappy events while the vermin will take over here

Anonymous said...

The filthy mattresses really give the place a slum appearance. It's no wonder we have bed bugs in several apartments. The would be victims of the Leasing Office should be given a tour that includes all the discarded filthy mattresses and broken furniture. They are only shown the little area by the Leasing Office and I think that is the only part of the property where the dog shit is picked up. Maybe we should put on our rubber gloves and coveralls and move some of those filthy mattresses to outside the Leasing Office?

Our recycling rooms are filthy within half an hour of the porters cleaning them because we have filthy slobs who take down huge bags of oozing household waste, who fill the recycling bins with plastic bags and can't be bothered to read which bins are for which type of recycling. They are fucking morons. But that's what Rick likes, otherwise things would be different.

Anonymous said...

"I guess the ever changing scene in this city (according to the cheerleaders) is filth. Dog shit, mattresses, garbage everywhere equals a huge spike in rodents, and people should walk around this property at night a little more if they want to see just how bad the rodent problems are."

Yup. Not all change is good. This place has changed for the worse, especially since Blackstone took over.

Anonymous said...

Same complaints different day. The “cheerleaders” really shut you all down over on the TA page.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>This place has changed for the worse, especially since Blackstone took over.<<

Depends. And I say this after having "gone back in time" to look at some of the photos I took in previous years. I think Blackstone with Hayduk has improved the grass grounds and from what I hear people get service quicker. That said, the other things, like garbage on the loops, the recycling area, the AirBnb apartments, the noise from the events almost every day, the "upgrading" of apartments, the club cars everywhere, the increasing dog population, the new outdoor gym rarely used by more than a few and never in bad weather or off season, the "smiley face" because the clock can't be fixed, etc., have either gotten worse or made an appearance. Don't forget that I myself overheard the "suits" from Blackstone walking around and saying that the Oval was a "great resource." They did mean for the squirrels, birds or even the sun-bathers.

Anonymous said...

They don’t shut us down and they never will. If they like living in a dirty, low class environment while paying extremely high rents, good for them. Wait until they are priced out of their apartments.

Anonymous said...

What if Blackstone met every one of the complaints on the STR? No more events, fixed the garbage and feces issues, no more security officers named joe, no more cafe, no more tenants that could be considered transient. Do you feel you would be able to enjoy living here again?

Anonymous said...

"Same complaints different day. The “cheerleaders” really shut you all down over on the TA page."

Don't kid yourself. The "cheerleaders" are a minority. A vocal minority, true, but they'll all be gone in a year or so. They are suckers who are paying through the nose and know it. Eventually, they will muster some dignity and move to a place that is worth the $$$$$$$$$$ they are paying to live in this over-rated SLUM.

Anonymous said...

Blackstone = Blood-Sucking Parasites of the very worst kind.

Anonymous said...

The cheerleaders love these events and amenities because they are only planning to be here for a short period of time (< 5 years) and will never consider this place their home. The “complainers” have lived here their entire lives and will be here until they die, and do not like to see this happen to the only home they will ever know.

Generations of families used to plant themselves here and stay for decades. Now people come in for 1-2 years and we have a management company that panders to the short-term people that they will intentionally price out of here.

When all is said and done, the “complainers” will still be here in their <$2000 apartments.

Anonymous said...

Yes especially if they got rid of the dorm population. Of course they would have to lower rents a bit to attract decent people.

Anonymous said...

They are suckers and have to praise those crap amenity events to rationalize living in this dump for what they pay.



Anonymous said...

8 16 NO. FIX THE OVERCHARGES, GIVE THE MR FAIR PRICES LIKE 65% OF THE OTHERS LIVING HERE.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Now people come in for 1-2 years and we have a management company that panders to the short-term people that they will intentionally price out of here.<<

It seems that way, but watching Management and thinking "their thoughts," I don't think that is true. Management would love to go back to the "old days" as far as tenants who they can count on and that are happy with them and living here. But, yes, it is now about money, too, and who can pay, and that is Management's focus. Upgrades, "amenities," and all the crap we are seeing around this place is just to make residents happy. Unfortunately, as has been said, we are not living on a cruise ship and would like to see the "rules" (Management, city, state) also obeyed.

Anonymous said...

I don’t agree that management wants to go back to the old days. They had a plan linked with NYU, city subsidy, Air bnb, etc and knew it could work well . This was from the beginning. They put up a facade of good will with surveys and e-mails to coddle residents already here.

Anonymous said...

Smiley face on a broken clock. Oh, the irony.

Anonymous said...

Just gotta love those "HAVE A GREAT DAY SIGNS" when exiting the Oval.
What a load of %*@#!!!!!!! Not buying it. MR SUCKERS!!!

Anonymous said...

"This is not an end, this is the beginning. This is the beginning because the message that we sent the world tonight is that it's not OK to put donors before your community," Ocasio-Cortez told roaring supporters on Tuesday night.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-new-york-14-primary/index.html

-----

It's too late for PCVST.

This place would be completely different today if our NYC Councilman Dan Garodnick agreed with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. "It's not OK to put donors before your community" - especially this PCVST community where Dan resided his entire life. Instead, Lying Conniving Dan betrayed all of his PCVST neighbors/constituents on behalf of the greedy, insatiable REBNY/Wall Street predators bankrolling him.

2009 - Greedy, insatiable, billionaire, REBNY predator Speyer, after trying and failing to rake in multiple billion dollar windfalls pushing our historic middle class PCVST community out of our homes, limped away from us bruised and beaten. Billionaire Mayor Bloomberg suffered a black eye for very aggressively supporting Speyer's predatory business plan that could never possibly succeeed without destroying an entire, stable, NYC community. Those wounds suffered by Speyer and Bloomberg were self inflicted and the damage to their reputations should have been permanent, recorded in NYC history as the ending of a dark, corrupt, greed-fueled era.

2009 - How many PCVST residents that survived Speyer's take-no-prisoners war against our community imagined in their wildest nightmares that the likes of Moelis, Brookfield, Goldman Sachs, Schwartzman, Blackstone, etc. could ever somehow worm their way back into our PCVST community and back into our PCVST homes for a 2nd opportunity to successfully realize Speyer's horrific failed vision?

Who invited those same greedy, insatiable billionaire predators back into our homes after they tried and failed to boot us out of our homes, including some original WWII VET neighbors residing in their PCVST homes more than 60+ years? Didn't all the politicians repeatedly pledge "NEVER AGAIN!" to us? What happened to all those trusted, faithful, elected representatives? How the hell did this happen? How the hell did it happen AGAIN?

BROOKFIELD? AGAIN? SHARED VALUES? WTF?

Ask Dan Garodnick, elected to defend us against the greedy, insatiable REBNY/Wall Street predators hellbent on destroying our community. After Speyer, they could never, repeat never, contrive their 2nd opportunity to destroy PCVST without Dan. They needed him. they bought him. They own him. The final destruction of this historic PCVST community, where he resided his entire life, is Dan Garodnick's legacy, WHO WAS bought and paid for by greedy, insatiable billionaires bankrolling him before his 1st term ended.

Dan's primary responsibility at his new job?
FUND RAISING - ASKING BILLIONAIRES FOR MONEY

Anonymous said...

Dan's primary responsibility at his new job?
FUND RAISING - ASKING BILLIONAIRES FOR MONEY

July 3, 2018 at 11:34 AM



Also in 2009, June 2009 the press reported a May 27 2009 letter detailing the deal with Chinese investors - developers between Tishman Speyer Blackrock all their shell company investors and Dalian Wanda The Wanda Group. The Wanda Group is also an investor who is owed money by Harvey Weinstein Weinstein & Co.


https://ny.curbed.com/2009/6/2/10540470/conspiracy-theories-lights-out-for-peter-cooper-village

Anonymous said...

"What if Blackstone met every one of the complaints on the STR? No more events, fixed the garbage and feces issues, no more security officers named joe, no more cafe, no more tenants that could be considered transient. Do you feel you would be able to enjoy living here again?"

YES! YES! YES! Not only would we enjoy living here again, but the place would attract a higher caliber of tenant. We would have real families making a home here, people who take pride in their surroundings and don't foul their nests. It would be a safer, quieter and much more pleasant place to live. The students are only part of the problem, but for the most part they are ok. I don't think they lower themselves to go to those crappy Oval "events!" I have no students on my floor, but I have young couples who over-pay to live here and they absolutely stink the place up with their pot smoking. They are not going to stay here long. At the end of their lease, they will move out and be replaced with clones of themselves. The two market rate apartments on my floor have been occupied by different sets of clones every year for the past several years: constant pot smoking, no carpets, loud parties and extreme rudeness. They are all the same. The students are much better.

Anonymous said...

Garodnik, Speyer, Schwartzman, Bloomberg, et al are the verminous curse on all decency. They are self-serving, insatiably greedy, avaricious parasites. They are more disgusting than a plague of blow flies.

Anonymous said...

One of the cheerleaders is a defense attorney for white-collar criminals, so he should be very much at home with Blackstone and their ilk. No wonder he cheerleads for this scummy "management." Kind attracts kind.

Anonymous said...

You think this place is a dump? Go live in some NYCHA housing projects. You don’t realize how good you have it. You would rather spend all day complaining. I see plenty of nice families moving in and paying MR and know they throughly enjoy ST. You just must be living in an alternate reality.

Anonymous said...

It is true that 274 First Avenue Loop has a bad bed bug problem in the C line for years. It is also true that the TA President said there is a big bed bug problem in Stuy Town that correlates with a big hotel Airbnb problem. Airbnb brought bed bugs to Stuy Town according to the TA. Why isn't the TA Board doing anything about it other than complaining at a city council hearing. Complaining is not going to solve the big bed bug problem in Stuy Town.

EVERY BUILDING HAS TOURISTS STAYING IN STUYTOWN HOTELS.

ACCORDING TO THE TA THERE IS A HIGH CORRELATION OF HOTELS TO BED BUG REPORTS THAT MEANS EVERY BUILDING HAS OR COULD HAVE BED BUGS.

TENANTS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT A BED BUG INFESTATION IN THEIR BUILDING. WITH OUR BUILDINGS ATTACHED TO ONE ANOTHER TENANTS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT BED BUGS IN ADJOINING BUILDINGS TOO. FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR KIDS AND OUR OWN SAFETY THE TA MUST TELL TENANTS ABOUT THEIR BED BUG REPORT CORRELATION WITH THE HOTEL REPORT SO WE KNOW ABOUT THE HEALTH HAZARDS OF THE BED BUGS AND THE SAFETY HAZARDS OF THE STRANGERS ON OUR FLOORS, IN OUR BUILDINGS AND IN OUR ATTACHED BUILDINGS.

FOR THAT FACT EVERY TENANT MUST BE INFORMED OF EVERY HOTEL AND BED BUG REPORT CORRELATION IN EACH AND EVERY BUILDING BECAUSE IN THIS COMMUNITY WE SHARE COMMON GROUND WITH OUR KIDS FROM OTHER BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT ATTACHED TO OUR BUILDINGS PLAYING ON THE SAME PLAYGROUNDS, NANNIES PLACING BAGS NEXT TO EACH OTHER IN THE PLAYGROUNDS THAT WERE IN APARTMENTS THAT COULD BE HOTEL BED BUG INFESTED OR NEXT DOOR TO A HOTEL BED BUG INFESTATION.

FOR THE SAKE OF THE SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY ALL TENANTS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT THE TA BOARD PRESIDENT MARSH’S AND STEINBERG’S CORRELATING BED BUG HOTEL REPORT IMMEDIATELY.

THIS IS SICKENING THAT THE TA KEEPS IT SECRET FROM THE TENANTS.

Anonymous said...

Isn’t this place lovely. Daily uncovered mattress and move out trash sighting this morning on the sidewalk between A and B.

Anonymous said...

You think this place is a dump? Go live in some NYCHA housing projects. You don’t realize how good you have it.

You think this place is luxury living? Go move to one of those shiny glass towers in BK or LIC, with real “amenities” like swimming pools, saunas and roof decks, for the same rent you’re paying here in a 1940s mass housing project. You don’t realize how badly you’re being swindled.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Garodnik, Speyer, Schwartzman, Bloomberg, et al are the verminous curse on all decency. They are self-serving, insatiably greedy, avaricious parasites. They are more disgusting than a plague of blow flies.

July 3, 2018 at 5:20 PM

Anonymous said...

This is an insult to every tenant in Stuy Town

Anonymous said...
You think this place is a dump? Go live in some NYCHA housing projects. You don’t realize how good you have it. You would rather spend all day complaining. I see plenty of nice families moving in and paying MR and know they throughly enjoy ST. You just must be living in an alternate reality.

July 3, 2018 at 6:27 PM



A proper comparison is not to compare Stuy Town quality of life to NYCHA but to compare it to the landlord. Would the landlord allow dirty unsanitary mattresses let alone any eyesore deemed unworthy of his eyesight? No. Allow dirty unsanitary recycling areas, his packages stolen, his neighbors Airbnb guests, or dorm students with buckets of sulfuric acid, poop in his path not scooped, noise pollution waking his dainty little ears early in the morning, 3rd rate bands blaring music into his home in the evening hours or strangers lurking around among the stranger guests visiting and the stranger overnight guests of the students in the elevators doing the walk of shame?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

As I posted, I don't consider this place a slum, but I also don't think it is properly managed. That could be because Management has its reasons--at least I hope so!

Now, it is true that if our residents were not mostly white, with Asians thrown in, the feeling here would be different, considering what is seen every day.

BTW, I have taken photos of other places that appear to be managed better, and I've shown them. As I said, there is no excuse, except the important money factor, for this place to be run the way it is.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

From the current excitement at the TA Facebook over McDonald's on 14th supposedly closing, know that all McDonald's are getting an "upgrade," with new ordering that gets rid of the human element in part.

Anonymous said...

"You think this place is a dump? Go live in some NYCHA housing projects. You don’t realize how good you have it."

You wouldn't be paying a minimum of $4k for a 1 BR in a NYCHA housing project, so don't pose such a ridiculous comparison.

Anonymous said...

NYCH projects do not charge rentals of 4000 grand a monthThat is the difference. They are raking in those high rents and are not taking care of basic sanitation. If you enjoy living here and pay those market rents you are being taken advantage of . This is a dirty property with no real amenities. I do not consider those crap concerts amenities.

Anonymous said...

10:46, you are the one living in an alternate reality. If you are paying market rate you are being swindled. You have no doorman, no pool, dirty garbage strewn streets , and dorms abounding. You may see a few nice families here and there, but very few and some of those are tourists who fall into the transient scheme. In addition, many will be priced out in a couple of years. Yours is a sad reality.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

The BS again.

I saw twice today, in passing, people getting inside those "locked except for a Key Card" playgrounds. One, the person and his two kids just waited until someone eventually let them in. Two, a person had one of his kids climb over and open the door on the other side.

Obviously, this is NOT working if you don't have someone checking IDs, but Management is now relying on gates to get rid of the human element.

The other thing is what is this nonsense about PS checking IDs for entry on the 4th of July? Maybe when it is close to fireworks time buy not around 3pm where I saw many people already at the Oval having a good time and just waiting. No IDs were checked, and I myself saw outsiders come in to "enjoy" the grounds and later the fireworks.

What's it to you, STR?

Anonymous said...

"I saw twice today, in passing, people getting inside those "locked except for a Key Card" playgrounds. One, the person and his two kids just waited until someone eventually let them in. Two, a person had one of his kids climb over and open the door on the other side."

Obviously, PS is not watching those fucking cameras that we are paying a HUGE and perpetual MCI for. This place really sucks because we are being "managed" by a bunch of incompetent, lying hucksters. Hayduk, you hear that? You are a USELESS "manager" and custodian of this place. Go away and let a real MANAGER take over. You cut the balls of PS, no rules are enforced and we tenants pay through the nose for worthless MCI "upgrades." Don't know how you can look yourself in the face when you shave.

Anonymous said...

Hayduk does not make the rules here. He is a puppet of Blackstone. The place would be managed this way by anyone.

Anonymous said...

Blame Bloomberg.

Bloomberg ruled for 12 years. That is more than enough time to implement laws and policies which is what he did. Stuy Town is owned by Bloomberg's best friend Steve Schwarzman. That is not a coincidence. That is the TA Board and new administration Bill DeBlasio carrying out the plan for the billionaires Bloomberg and Schwarzman who want to have yacht races with their friends Louis Bacon (also an investor in Stuy Town) and close friends yacht compnay investors Bernard Arnault and Wang Jianlin. The politicians do what the people with money tell the politicians to do. The two politicians who stole a third term, Stuy Town former councilman Garodnick and Stuy Town NYC former Mayor destroyed the people, community and property.

Anonymous said...

We have given up on talking to neighbors about consensus on taking action on the Airbnbs and will be doing it for ourselves from here on. This place is a disappointment but so are all of the people living here. All you do is complain, whine and nothing else. Obviously a bunch of rich men used their control of politicians via the so called economic development corporation to build up the waterfront of Manhattan with yacht docks for races from Bermuda to New York City to Glen Cove or Sag Harbor to Montauk to Newport and Cape Cod and how they went about it is criminal and sleazy as all heck.

All of the complaining in the world is not going to accomplish anything. The state economic development corporation is on trial right now some of its pay to play crimes. The new York economic development deserves to be on trial right along side the state. The so called economic development corporation run by a bunch of private corporations are getting a lot richer and we are losing our homes after already long agon losing any quality of life from living here. Maria torres springer
Politicians are ordinary folks in jobs of power who are using their power to ruin the communities of equally ordinary people they are supposed to serve. They are not doing that. For 12 years the city councilman Dan Garodnick accomplished head lines for himself as a fighter against predatory equity however no results actually fighting against predatory equity. He accomplished no results because all he did was public relations for himself while 12 years of no policies, laws, protections for his constituents. He took no actions to fight predatory developers. He used words to glorify himself and took no actions to protect his community of constituents. He failed on purpose at protecting his constituents. Now the community after 12 years has not learned a damn thing and is still doing the same things by going to the new city councilman. The city councilman will not do their jobs because the heads Quinn, Viverito, Johnson and wannabe head Garodnick all serve the developers REBNY.

The city council and the economic development corporation which the city councilman headed failed us for 12 years but they are making the developers a lot richer.

If we keep asking or even demanding the city council representatives do their job we deserve to keep losing our quality of life. For 12 years they have not, are not and will not.

If this community wants to save itself it has to grow up and take real action anything less and this community deserves to disappear as is the plan of the politicians developers and the REBNY. Grow up and stand up for yourself and stop asking everyone else to do it for you or complaining about it but doing nothing about it. We are the same as Dan, all talk and no action.

Before anyone writes a reply to this post saying what should we do or what do you suggest here is the answer to that. Stop asking other people what you should do. Start doing it for yourself. In the short time living here the biggest disappointment is the property management with a close second being the tenants inaction for themselves acting like they can't figure out how to stand up for themselves. Stuy Town tenants are not stupid and do not need to be told what to do and that makes it all the more confusing on why we are not doing anything.

Anonymous said...

Any AirbnB-operating tenants in my building get reported to RSB and IRS.

Anonymous said...

9:47 AM. I don't think there is ANYTHING we can do. We don't have a tenants association and the politicians are all crooked. Therefore, we are helpless as if we were living under Putin, except we can whine without being murdered. At least, for now.

Anonymous said...

9:47 AM: WTF do you suggest we do? I don't think we can do anything, especially those of us who are longtime "real" rent stabilized tenants. Management wants us out and will do anything to get us out. They are letting the place get run down, dirty and noisy because they are hoping the squalor and noise will drive us out or speed-up our demise. They know that the riff-raff and students that come through here on a transient basis don't care about the filth and noise and, in fact, contribute to it and are perfectly in their element with it. So, those of us who are unable or unwilling to move just have to suck it up.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

One of things that we don't do, though one is always welcome to it, is to give up. Management would love to have nobody telling the truth but Management's spin and evasiveness. I was outside very briefly, and I saw three, yes, three piles of dog shit not picked up. One pile is very near my building, with flies already have their lunch. Now, don't tell me that no one who gets a paycheck from Blackstone sees this. Of course, they see it, but they don't care.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Breakfast, too. The dog pile has been there since the morning.

Anonymous said...

I don't know how anybody can eat (or even drink coffee) at the Stuy Cafe. The sight of all the dog shit here kills my appetite, and knowing that the same management that runs the Cafe is the same management that runs the property. This place has become so nasty and bears totally no resemblance to the pleasant, clean and very well-run property that it used to be. Blackstone has a reputation, nationally and internationally, for buying distressed properties such as this was after Rob Speyer walked away, leaving it saddled with debt, and turning them into slums while charging exorbitant rents and treating the tenants like shit. That is their business model. It's a strange one, but it works for them.

Anonymous said...

This hole is WAY too big to plug in THIS boat. Bail out while you can. I hate living here too but can't afford to live anywhere else. WHAT A DUMP!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

So... what would a new TA be called? Because the other one is useless.

Anonymous said...

"So... what would a new TA be called? Because the other one is useless."

Tenants Advocacy Association. Tenants Support Association. Respect for Tenants Association. Tenants Concerns Association. Tenants Group. Tenants United Association.

I would join a new TA in a heartbeat. The old one should just slink away, but should open its books first. It is obvious that they are hiding something.

Anonymous said...

There is nothing that we can do. We tried to meet with our councilman on the noise issue and nada. It is what it is.

Anonymous said...

Funny, I have friends that live that crap cafe. The same ones who love Hayden .

Anonymous said...

Concert night! Dumb question, where do they get these untalented screaming idiots from???

Atomic Man said...

So... what would a new TA be called?

The..... ARISTOCRATS!


Sorry, couldn’t resist.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

>>Concert night! Dumb question, where do they get these untalented screaming idiots from???<<

By chance I passed the Oval and took some photos. Aside from the noise (music, supposedly), the band leader was screaming, and there were very few people there. For this, dear Rick and Blackstone want an event almost every day.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

"Tenants Advocacy Association. Tenants Support Association. Respect for Tenants Association. Tenants Concerns Association. Tenants Group. Tenants United Association."

I will take that into consideration. Thanks!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Two photos up already! I also took that dog crap that is STILL very visible in front of my building, but, though I have the photo, I will be kind to your dinner hour.

BIGMO said...

I don't live anywhere near the Oval but I could hear that noise this evening. It actually sounded like someone was being tortured!

I didn't know Blackstone was running a 'Black site' at the Oval. Is that even legal?

Anonymous said...

I do not know how they can justify these crap events that attract such few people. As the weather gets hotter even the idiots who like these concerts will be inside with AC. Was out tonight so didn’t hear it mercifully. They sure cater to the dogs in those stupid weekly e-mails Hayduk sends. Everything is dog this, dog that. This dump is for the dogs.

Anonymous said...

"There is nothing that we can do. We tried to meet with our councilman on the noise issue and nada. It is what it is."

Certainly won't vote for that POS if he runs for office again.

STAND UP AND FIGHT said...

THIS IS STAND UP AND FIGHT

1. A matter of interest, but no big shock: The kitchen screen which is sold by Town and Village Hardware is approximately $76.00. Resident Services quoted me $215.61 for a kitchen screen. I had it double checked. Yup. $215.61 for what you can get (and probably of superior manufacture) for much less than half. 'Way to go, Blackstone, Beam Living, SPS, Good Neighbors, predators!

2. 9:47 A.M.: I agree with you regarding the neighbors. I'd be flabbergasted at their apathy, stupidity, ability to be brainwashed, lulled, scared, and so on . . . IF I had not encountered this in similar situations. PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY USED TO RISE UP AND FIGHT BACK. TRULY FIGHT BACK. STRIKE, PICKETS, SIT-DOWN STRIKES, CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE, OCCUPYING BUILDINGS and more. Even when either the police or hired thugs beat them, arrested them, injured them, killed them.

3. As I've written repeatedly, anyone truly interested in TAKING ACTION (about the Oval desecration and ALL of the other hell Blackstone and their minions are causing) rather than complaining, please write to me at:

quietenjoymentnow@gmail.com

We can work together, DO THINGS for ourselves, TAKE ACTION for a much better life here.

STAND UP AND FIGHT

Anonymous said...

"I didn't know Blackstone was running a 'Black site' at the Oval. Is that even legal?"

Oval tenants are "rendered" to the Blackstone Black Site. It's known as The Oval Entertainment. Aaaaaaaghhhh!!!

Anonymous said...

To: 7/1, 12:02 PM

It would be helpful if posting about a building with Air&B apartments ongoing that you post the building, floor and apartment so something can be done about it.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Sorry, but while I understand, giving an apartment online, here, can have legal consequences.

Anonymous said...

So Saturday I was walking my dog up the stairs by the 20th street loop and next to me a guy is walking. I noticed him as it was clear he didn't know where he was. Next thing I know he jumps the fence and proceeds to piss on the building right across from the playground, right under a bedroom window. This was about 2pm and the playground was full of kids. I started screaming at him to pull up his pants and get the hell out of here. I had no cell phone on me.
His car was in the loop waiting for him and his passenger.
Ironically I also saw a driver in the loop last week pissing in a bottle leaning into his car.
Word is out you can clearly piss anywhere in the open in Stuy Town!