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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. Things like the carpet rule or outsider dogs. These "rules" tend to be ignored, on purpose it seems. So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change, though the "selling" of this place is intense. Few of the "rules" will be enforced, as Management doesn't want to lose customers or potential customers. Where personal integrity is a hallmark of an excellent management style, this integrity is not seen in enforcing some of the rules.

Our Tenants Association is, basically, null and void. Oh, it is still around, but it lacks the will power to confront much of anything. The TA will ask for your dues, however. By now, the TA is a charade.

About those "club cars" we see going this way and that way, and outside of Stuy Town or Peter Cooper Village:

Thursday, August 20, 2009

How to Drive Seniors Out of Stuy Town

In case you missed the Oval "concerts" this summer....

You know, there are still just too many rent-stabilized seniors living in Stuyvesant Town. Probably a bunch are living around the Oval. Even those 30/40/50 somethings are a pain in the ass if they are RS tenants. So here's a gift from Tishman Speyer: Music to Make You Wish You Lived Someplace Other Than Stuy Town or How to Pack More NYU Students into Stuy Town


Anonymous said...

The "musicians" that TS brings in for these summer "concerts" are worse than the ones who play on the platforms of L Train at Union Square and Sixth Avenue stations. The noise (no, it's not music) they make can be heard all over the complex so it must be absolute hell for those living on the Oval. The Oval used to be the preferred location to live, but now it is a must to avoid!

Anonymous said...

Oh stop it.

Granted this particular performer wasn't my cup of tea either but they had a good variety of music this year. Much better than those doo-wop cover bands of the past. And the concerts only last 30-45 minutes.

If you want complete and utter silence move to a cemetery. Some of us still have some life left in us and enjoy a few of the events here.

Next you'll be complaining the squirrels are messy or the broccoli at the farmer's market is too green.


Anonymous said...

Let's not forget the sound checks.

Anonymous said...

I know. The music isn't THAT bad. Try and find something like this at another Manhattan property that caters to its residents like this.

Anonymous said...

Enough! Arguing is for the 'other' blog!

Anonymous said...

"[T]he concerts only last 30-45 minutes."

If by 30-45 minutes you mean 60-90 minutes then, yeah, the concerts last only 30-45 minutes.

"If you want complete and utter silence move to a cemetery."

A cemetery now? When you trot out this tired old chestnut of advice on the LL blog it's "move to the mountains!"

Anonymous said...

"The music isn't THAT bad. Try and find something like this at another Manhattan property that caters to its residents like this."

You have to be kidding! I would never want to find another Manhattan property that "caters to its residents like this!"

Anonymous said...

Wow, at least the people here don't talk to themselves or anything.

Anonymous said...

Is there anything you RS people will NOT complain about?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Yes! Beautiful day, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

You RS people make me sick. I pay more than DOUBLE what you do for an apartment 3/4's your size and help keep your j-51's coming in. The management treatment, maintenance, and everything else you get from ST is the SAME as what I get, so quit your bitching already!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Yes, but you elected to move into such a situation. RS tenants have been here for a while, some for most of their lives or all of their lives, and have lived here with the understanding that Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village represented affordable middle-class housing. This is what part of the fight is about, and I wish you could benefit from such affordability, too.

Anonymous said...

Boo-hoo. The issue isn't how long anyone has lived here- seniority does not supercede respect. You RS people walk around here with sticks up your asses as if we MR's are the reason for your misery.
And yes, I did 'elect' to live here with no regard for how snobbish my RS neighbors would be. Do you know how many RS people really do have other residences and claim Stuy Town as their own the 'majority' of the time and abuse the RS laws?

Stuy Town Reporter said...

I don't think that MR tenants are a problem at all. I'd love to see you pay the same as RS tenants pay. Most RS tenants do live here, btw. Otherwise, Tishman Speyer would have already weeded them out.

Anonymous said...

I see it this way. It's quite simple. We do not live in a public park. Public areas are for outdoor concerts. The oval is residential. If you lived in a home and your neighbor had a band performing in his backyard at the noise level of Stuytown concerts you could call the police.
I say we organize some concerts in Tishman and Speyer's backyard. Maybe some hard rock or latin bongos!