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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. Things like the carpet rule or outsider dogs. These "rules" tend to be ignored, on purpose it seems. So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change, though the "selling" of this place is intense. Few of the "rules" will be enforced, as Management doesn't want to lose customers or potential customers. Where personal integrity is a hallmark of an excellent management style, this integrity is not seen in enforcing some of the rules.

Our Tenants Association is, basically, null and void. Oh, it is still around, but it lacks the will power to confront much of anything. The TA will ask for your dues, however. By now, the TA is a charade.

About those "club cars" we see going this way and that way, and outside of Stuy Town or Peter Cooper Village:

Monday, July 4, 2011

No More Taim Mobile Trucks

Angry residents of Stuyvesant Town sent e-mails to the Taim Mobile/Joy Ride Trucks businesses, protesting the presence of one of their loud and obnoxious trucks inside Stuyvesant Town. The responses from Taim Mobile were revelatory. Here is one such response, similar to other responses. (Thanks to Lux Living and original e-mail senders.)

Stuy town property management has been inviting us and begging us to come .

If you have any issues you should take it up with them .

Incidentally yesterday was our last day there anyway but it is my understanding they want to have trucks on a regular basis ...

So again , sorry for the inconvenience , but I think you are complaining to the wrong party
As a matter of fact we didn't really want to come there (I didnt really think it was a great idea for numerous reasons) but the management kind of sold us on the idea and we came ...

And like I said , doubt we would be back again anyway , but it is my understanding that they want to have other trucks regularly ..

So I suggest you contact them


So, the good news is that the Taim Mobile Truck will not reappear in Stuy Town (we hope!), but the bad news is that management is really pushing the commercial trucks idea, even to the point of "begging" such services to come into the complex.

PS: I've been reading the by-now lengthy thread over on Lux's Facebook concerning the presence of commercial enterprises and "events" at the Oval. I'm stupefied and dismayed by one of the commentators and her position.... You don't know what you are losing by wanting these enterprises and events. You really don't. I do think you represent a minority. Hopefully. Otherwise, we'll have food and coffee trucks at all four points of the Oval, concerts every week, a carnival or two, and so many event "battles" that it'll seem we are being attacked by the Transformers. More on this in a future post.


Anonymous said...

Attacked by Transformers? ROFL! Please don't give them any more bad deas!!!

Anonymous said...

We don't need any nasty, smelly food trucks here. This is supposed to be residential property, not a frigging food court. We have enough to attract the rats, e.g. rancid recycling areas, people throwing food litter all over the property. Why can't Rose just cut the gimmicks and focus on making this a clean, livable residential community like it used to be? What was attractive and desirable about Stuyvesant has been destroyed by Rose and TS and been replaced with the most revolting, gimmicky, tacky nonsense. And for what? To attract temporary residents who will come here, take a dump and then leave. They should start renting to responsible adults who will respect the place and won't have to have mommy and daddy guaranty their rent. If that's asking too much of our current "mismanagement" then maybe they should just get out of the business.

Anonymous said...

Adam Rose, please try to wrap your head around the fact that Stuyvesant Town was built for New Yorkers as a place for returning veterans (at the time it was built) and middle class, hard working New Yorkers. The Bloomberg credo is to bring in as many tourists and temporary people from the flyover states as possible because they turn a quick buck. Tishman Speyer, the Ultimate Ghouls, tried to cash in on this philosophy and NYU saw the opportunity to house its overpaying and under talented students here. We hard working middle real New Yorkers resent our home being prostituted in this manner. We don't need more students and twentysomethings from the flyover states coming in here and acting like they are God's gift to humanity in general, New York in particular. They are rude, nasty, arrogant out of towers who don't even know how to dispose of garbage in a civilized manner. Please don't encourage them. Please rent the apartments to real New Yorkers who know how to behave properly. No more students, please. They are not all students, even if they claim to be; a lot of them are just party animals who are being funded by parents who would just as soon have them out of the house so they can be someone else's problem. These parents are willing to pay whatever it costs just to get these pests out of the house and out of their lives for a while!
Bring Stuyvesant Town back to at least a semblance of what it was: a peaceful, decent, clean, safe oasis in the City inhabited by hardworking, taxpaying NEW YORKERS!

Stuy Town Reporter said...

What he, or she, said.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 10:13 PM;

While I totally agree with your view, Adam Rose isn't working to serve your needs, he's working for CW Capital and the bondholders who still have megabucks invested in this losing proposition. While ideally you are right, you must accept the fact that your idealism comes from a time when Metropolitan Life ran ST/PCV with a specific goal in mind and WITHOUT any mortgage responsibility. They were able to run the place because their expenses were controlled. That is no longer the case, and even if the place gets sold to the tenants, the unmanageable mixture of apartments and their inhabitants means that a civil balance will never again be achievable.

People are going to either learn to live with it, or move on.

I'm sorry to have to hold this view, but I really believe it to be true.

Anonymous said...

I will never understand how come the Speyers, et al were allowed to simply walk away from that massive debt and leave PCVST in total tatters. It seems criminal. I rate the Speyers on the same level as Bernie Madoff I wish they were his cellmates.

Anonymous said...

I just read on the Lux Living Facebook page that there are still food trucks in the Oval, just not as noisy as they were. Why do we have this kind of stuff here? This is a residential community not a public park. I'm totally sick of the gimmicky crap that Rose A$$ociates are inflicting on us. No wonder we have rats running all over the property.

Anonymous said...

The only way to stop the invasion of food trucks is to bypass stubborn Rose and email the food truck companies. Tell them we don't want them in our parks and we will not buy from them. If they don't make money they won't return.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

There's also another way, which I wouldn't encourage at this point, unless all this truck stuff goes too far--and that's to start giving negative reviews to such companies on Yelp, etc. Businesses hate such reviews and it's near impossible to get them removed.