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Management has two priorities: 1) Making sure money is made, hence upgrading and filling up apartments is their goal. "Amenities" are important in selling the place, though few residents use them. 2) If someone needs medical attention, Public Safety will be there, if alerted.

Quality of life issues are not that important, however. Things like the carpet rule or outsider dogs. These "rules" tend to be ignored, on purpose it seems. So you will see a lot that isn't taken care of properly, and complaints will be met with a creative excuse and a smile.

"Peace and quiet" must be a cruel joke, though this property is sold that way. There can be no peace and quiet as ALL apartments must be upgraded, which includes the installation of an AC unit below the window. Aside from the continual construction about the neighborhood, there is a new and noisy subway extension being built along East 14 st and the shut down of the L line. "Choosing" to live in NYC, now the newest mantra, is a fabrication when the talk is of ST and PCV, which was traditionally quiet, with no construction noise.

Though money was always important, it is now more important than ever. Money rules many things, as you will find.

At this point, 30 years into living here and seeing many things, I can state that Management and their reps are BS-ing us. I can't say that loudly enough: We are being BS-ed. I don't see any genuine change, though the "selling" of this place is intense. Few of the "rules" will be enforced, as Management doesn't want to lose customers or potential customers. Where personal integrity is a hallmark of an excellent management style, this integrity is not seen in enforcing some of the rules.

Our Tenants Association is, basically, null and void. Oh, it is still around, but it lacks the will power to confront much of anything. The TA will ask for your dues, however. By now, the TA is a charade.

About those "club cars" we see going this way and that way, and outside of Stuy Town or Peter Cooper Village:

Saturday, July 2, 2011

Rose Asssociates Surrenders on Dog Policy

I was wondering what was up with those designated no dog signs. Lux Living's Facebook gave the answer. (No flyer drops by the management yet to inform residents of this major change in policy.)

Seems that the areas pictured above in dark orange are off-limits to dogs, but everything else is a go: dogs can urinate and defecate wherever they want, though I'm assuming that the garden areas are still prohibited, even if they are not shown in dark orange. (Ah, as if this new freedom is going to stop dog owners from letting their pooches "stray" into the gardens!)

Though management can spin this as a compromise to make dog owners happy, I've a feeling based on past experience since dogs were allowed by Tishman Speyer (may that company name be permanently etched in the Hall of Landlord Shame) that security was just not up to catching and ticketing all the dog rule offenses that happen around here. Major FAIL, in other words.

What does this new policy mean? Well, things are just going to get worse with dog shit piling up in the green areas (why pick up when no one will see that turd hiding in the grass?) and the pungent smell of dog urine spreading throughout Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village. Shame on Rose Associates.

The fight about caring about this place is lost. Three sucker punches in a row. Game over.


Anonymous said...

keep up the good work STR.

It's important to have a forum like this that takes it directly to Rose Management.

Anonymous said...

It's probably not their intention to infer that it's ok for dog owners to let their dogs go anywhere EXCEPT those designated areas, but it may very well be the result. Personally, I never saw it as an issue as far as seeing dogs in playground areas: if I'm wrong then I stand corrected. It's always the dogs crapping on the grass and gardens. I sincerely hope that rose makes it clear that the restrictions for the grass remain. We are all on video, all the time. I wonder why they can't just send someone to the point of where an infraction is taking place when it is taking place. It's easy enough to see, as I see it all the time and believe me, I try to spend as little time as I have to on this property. Apt to car and back for the most part.

STR, have you though of some way to get your blog to show up when "Stuyvesant Town" is Googled? When Lux had his site up and running it showed right up under the main stuytown site. Future renters couldn't help but see it. This is why I believe Lux was so effective. It would be nice to see this site pop up when some one googles stuy town now. I reall have no idea what it would entail, I just thought I would suggest it.

Stuy Town Reporter said...

Whenever I put in "Stuyvesant Town" into Google, it comes up right after Lux's blog.

Anonymous said...

STR you are correct. I'm embarrassed to say that I'm the one who still uses yahoo, and it doesn't show up there. Not important because everyone, but me, googles.

Anonymous said...

Why didn't they print and distribute this map under our doors? Because they spent their entire budget on those slick events brochures they keep bombing us with. There's no budget left for the important stuff!

That's ok. It's really more important that we know about next weeks puppet show in the food court. Oops, I meant Oval!

Anonymous said...

You're right, they weren't up for the task of ticketing the offenders so Rose Associates is waving the white flag with a brown smear on it!

They are sending the message they are not up to the task at hand. It's as plane to see as the furniture all over the place.


Anonymous said...

This policy is in direct violation of NYC law. I smell an expensive lawsuit for Rose and CW Capital.

Anonymous said...

I can think of few things less hygienic than having dogs use the sidewalk rather than the grass. It is idiotic. Responsible dog owners can clean up after our dogs after they've gone on the side walk and there will inevitably be remnants, no matter how thorough the clean-up, through which everyone will traipse. Dogs should go in the grass---and i don't think any of us is suggesting a free for all--no dog owner I know has an investment in his/her dog using 'gardens' or playgrounds as his/her dog's personal bathroom, but other grassy areas (with exception of the new designated areas where people often like to sit) are fair, logical game and certainly a better idea from a public health perspective.

Anonymous said...

I am moving to NYC in about a month. I have 2 dogs and thought about moving to Stuy Town. It sounds like no one recommends it?

Anonymous said...

I recommend it. I'm a dog owner in Stuy Town, and I've found Management to be reasonable and accomodating.

I want to emphasize that I'm also a responsible dog owner; I pick up after our pet when she uses the bathroom, and I ensure that I'm not leaving any nasty surprises behind for my fellow tenants. In honesty, the only issue I've ever had is that I've found myself angrily yelled at by two other residents for the sin of owning a dog at all.

If you can put up with hilariously-overwrought, unjustified anger on very rare occasions, and you're someone who is responsible enough to pick up after your dog, then I'd say its very much worth your while.